Safety in Istanbul?
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As I mentioned before, I’m heading to Istanbul next summer, and I’ve heard there have been quite a few attacks by Kurds in Turkey recently, which is making me hesitate about my trip.

What do you all think? :( I’m wondering if it’s really a good idea to go...
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

If I spend so much time in Turkey and in Istanbul, it’s because I feel safe there. The country is far more hospitable, comfortable, safe, and well-organized than France, and I personally find that people are more relaxed and at ease there. Oh, right... there are sporadic clashes in the mountains of the Southeast, and the other day a bus and a tram burned in Zeytinburnu.....

Michel
VE Veroeddy Veteran ·
It's really hard to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Personally, I went there last month without any apprehension. Once there, I didn’t feel the slightest worry either. But I know from experience that when you don’t feel safe, you ruin your vacation. No amount of reassurance from those around you changes that. I enjoy traveling too much to willingly put myself in that kind of situation—and the world is so vast. One lifetime won’t be enough for each of us to see what we love. Happy planning! Véro
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

Yes, of course. But as far as I'm concerned, I've never met anyone who told me they felt particularly unsafe in Istanbul.

Michel
VE Veroeddy Veteran ·
That doesn’t surprise me. I found the place very peaceful myself. That said, I sometimes come across Japanese tourists in Brussels neighborhoods where I wouldn’t venture alone—and like them, in shorts with a 3,000 € camera around their neck. They probably feel safe. Since it’s hard to gauge how comfortable or uneasy someone else might feel, I just wanted to remind readers about the unfortunate reality of not enjoying your trip because you don’t feel safe. Off-topic: I’ll take this chance to thank you for your contributions here—they were really helpful for my recent trip. Véro
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
To each their own... Personally, I find the stressful situation caused by the soldiers with FAMAS rifles at Gare Montparnasse and the constant "security announcements" unbearable...

Michel
VI Vince44 ·
no problem! I lived there for a year with no issues at all
JA JacquesAnnic Regular ·
No, you're right—it's better to listen to the media and go to much less risky places. Let me think for a bit: London, maybe? Or Madrid, or even better, Bali? New York? 😏

As a last resort, there's Paris. It's true, it's been a long time since we've had bombs in our neck of the woods!

I first found myself in Turkey when *Midnight Express* came out (yes, that dates me!), another time during the kidnapping of Kurdish leader Öcalan (sorry for the spelling), another time during the 2000 earthquake in İzmit, near the Iraqi border during the Gulf War in 2003—and I’ve never felt safer with my kids than in that country.

What I fear most now is the result of the recent elections, with a "moderate Islamist" government coming to power! But that’s another debate I’m opening here...

Your turn... 😉
NE Nemo1001 Globetrotter ·
What I fear the most is the outcome of the recent elections with a "moderate Islamist" government coming to power! But that’s another debate I’m opening here...

That’s a surprising take. They’ve been in power for over 4 years already. 😏 They were simply re-elected 😛
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

"What I fear the most is the outcome of the recent elections with a 'moderate Islamist' government coming to power! But that’s another debate I’m opening here..."

Moderate Islamists have indeed been in power for four years now, and Erdogan has been prime minister since then. His AKP party managed to win over enough support to secure a landslide victory in this summer’s legislative elections, particularly among the working class and in the eastern part of the country. The latest development is different—it’s the election of Mr. Gül, the AKP’s candidate, as president. It doesn’t change anything fundamental and is more symbolic in nature.

Michel
JA JacquesAnnic Regular ·
Elections in Turkey...

While I agree with you that it was just a re-election that took place quite democratically, it wasn’t exactly smooth last spring, and there were tough protests in Istanbul and elsewhere.

"Last May, a deep parliamentary crisis—some argued it was about the very nature of the regime—shook Turkish political life, leading to the dissolution of Parliament and early elections. These were held last weekend..."

I feel a little uneasy when I see that this man’s wife wears a headscarf. After all, she’s married to the guarantor of secularism! I keep telling myself I know plenty of people in Turkey who wear one and are open-minded, people I’m friends with, but there’s still a little alarm bell ringing in my head. It reminds me of a certain ayatollah who, on an Air France flight returning him to his country after years of exile in the West, caused a scene because the flight attendants weren’t veiled and champagne was being served on board. His name was Khomeini. 🏴‍☠️

I know, that was a long time ago, it wasn’t the same country or the same circumstances, and I shouldn’t mix things up. I really hope I’m wrong so I can keep visiting this amazing country with peace of mind...🙂
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Good evening,

Your caricatured view of Islam saddens me.

Michel
NE Nemo1001 Globetrotter ·
This shows a complete lack of understanding of both the country and Islam, leading you to compare it to Khomeini, whom you said you often visit.

It’s sad to hear such remarks.
JA JacquesAnnic Regular ·
As I mentioned in my previous post:

"I really hope I’m wrong so I can keep visiting this amazing country with peace of mind...🙂"

Jacques
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
But I don’t doubt it for a second... What bothers me is that you might not have *"peace of mind"* because the power is held by Muslims who openly identify as such. I find that comment a bit odd.

Michel
JA JacquesAnnic Regular ·
Simply because Turkey is a secular state like France, and I can’t imagine the wife of a public figure displaying a religious symbol in an official capacity, whatever it may be.

Jacques
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Well, I’d say it’s a fashion accessory...

Michel
DN Dniorthe Veteran ·
hi,

I’m less afraid of a secular republic that asks questions, debates, discusses, and even opposes the headscarf of a president’s wife than the self-righteous silence of another equally secular republic that doesn’t question the sign of the cross made by a sitting president in the exercise of his duties...

dominique
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I didn't dare say it.....

Michel
JA JacquesAnnic Regular ·
Thanks for picking up the thread and rightly reframing my comment in another context that’s ours—one where we can indeed ask certain questions.

I started this topic about Turkey by ending with the phrase: "Over to you... 😉"

Which means I’d like it to be open to everyone’s remarks, concerns, knowledge, gaps, explanations, and desires—where we can share our opinions without being judged.

In short: a discussion.

PS: Great photo, Dominique! (Wouldn’t that be the Markha Valley in Ladakh?)

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