Prendre l'avion en état grippé?
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This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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je veux savoir si c'est possible de voyager à bord d'avion en état grippée ?
HERZI
très enrhumé, vaut mieux pas.
quand tu as le nez bouché, ça obstrue des petits canaux au fond du nez qui permettent à l'air qui est dans l'oreille, derrière le tympan, de circuler. Or, dans l'avion en vol, la pression de l'air est moins importante qu'au sol, alors l'air se dilate et il faut que l'air qu'il y a en trop dans l'oreille puisse sortir. Si ces canaux sont bouchés, ça pousse sur le tympan, ça fait très mal, et le tympan peut même exploser sous la pression. Opération inverse quand l'avion descend.
Il faut prendre des produits pour dégager ces canaux qu'on appelle les trompes d'Eustache (voir avec ton médecin), soit des spray dans le nez, ou des comprimés
Comme l'air passe plus facilement dans le sens oreille-nez que dans l'autre, le problème est souvent aigu quand l'avion descend. Il faut essayer d'avaler sa salive, sucer un bonbon..Tu peux aussi essayer de souffler très fort, bouche fermée en te pinçant le nez. Cette manoeuvre est bien connue des plongeurs.
Mais le mieux quand on est très enrhumé, c'est de ne pas prendre l'avion.
J'en fais malheureusement l'expérience assez fréquemment : atterrir avec un nez bouché, c'est TRES douloureux ! Même avec des lingettes de menthol pour dégager les sinus avant la phase d'atterrissage.
Il faut essayer d'avaler sa salive, sucer un bonbon..Tu peux aussi essayer de souffler très fort, bouche fermée en te pinçant le nez. Cette manoeuvre est bien connue des plongeurs
Ou boire de l eau par petites gorgees ce qui t oblige a deglutir et a donc chasser naturellement l air..... Utiliser ce qu on appelle l equilibrage (chasser l air en fermant la bouche et en se pincant le nez) en plongee libre ou bouteille doit toutefois etre bien maitrise et ne peut s improviser............... Je te recommande fortement de ne pas prendre l avion dans un etat grippal car tu t en sortiras dans l ordre avec une ou les deux oreilles bouchees (de quelques minutes a plusieurs jours), des douleurs passageres ou une grosse douleur dans les tympans, une simple ou double otite, des lesions des tympans (ce qui arrive frequemment chez les plongeurs), voir une perte de conscience dans les cas extremes surtout en ce qui concerne les enfants en bas age.........🙁 Mais ceci dit, libre a toi de tenter le coup et de compter sur un gros coup de bol............🙂
Ou boire de l eau par petites gorgees ce qui t oblige a deglutir et a donc chasser naturellement l air..... Utiliser ce qu on appelle l equilibrage (chasser l air en fermant la bouche et en se pincant le nez) en plongee libre ou bouteille doit toutefois etre bien maitrise et ne peut s improviser............... Je te recommande fortement de ne pas prendre l avion dans un etat grippal car tu t en sortiras dans l ordre avec une ou les deux oreilles bouchees (de quelques minutes a plusieurs jours), des douleurs passageres ou une grosse douleur dans les tympans, une simple ou double otite, des lesions des tympans (ce qui arrive frequemment chez les plongeurs), voir une perte de conscience dans les cas extremes surtout en ce qui concerne les enfants en bas age.........🙁 Mais ceci dit, libre a toi de tenter le coup et de compter sur un gros coup de bol............🙂
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Oui mais c'est a vos risques. De plus apres l'atterissage vous risquez de vous retrouver en quarantaine ou voir meme interdit de vol dans un pays ou vous allez comme c'etait le cas avec Andrew Speaker qui contaminait les autres passagers dans un avion. De plus si vous prenait l'avion en etat grippe vous contaminez les autres passagers.
Bonjour,
" De plus si vous prenait l'avion en etat grippe vous contaminez les autres passagers."
Pas sûr que l'on soit contagieux une fois la grippe déclarée, si ?
Bon, faut savoir ce qu'on entend par "grippé" : un état fébrile, un état grippal, ce n'est pas une vrai grippe avec 40 degrés de fièvre et des suées, des frissons.... Dans ce cas-là on ne peut pas, physiquement prendre le vol de toutes façons.
"De plus apres l'atterissage vous risquez de vous retrouver en quarantaine ou voir meme interdit de vol dans un pays ou vous allez"
Vous avez des exemples précis ?
Michel
" De plus si vous prenait l'avion en etat grippe vous contaminez les autres passagers."
Pas sûr que l'on soit contagieux une fois la grippe déclarée, si ?
Bon, faut savoir ce qu'on entend par "grippé" : un état fébrile, un état grippal, ce n'est pas une vrai grippe avec 40 degrés de fièvre et des suées, des frissons.... Dans ce cas-là on ne peut pas, physiquement prendre le vol de toutes façons.
"De plus apres l'atterissage vous risquez de vous retrouver en quarantaine ou voir meme interdit de vol dans un pays ou vous allez"
Vous avez des exemples précis ?
Michel
"De plus apres l'atterissage vous risquez de vous retrouver en quarantaine ou voir meme interdit de vol dans un pays ou vous allez"
Vous avez des exemples précis ?
J'ai déjà vu ça à Hong Kong je crois, au printemps 2006, à l'arrivée d'un vol en provenance de Delhi : on passait tous devant une caméra infra rouge, et le douanier signalait les gens qui avaient une température plus élevée, ces derniers étaient isolés. En revanche, je ne sais pas du tout quel sort leur était réservé.
C'est la seule et unique fois que j'ai vu un contrôle sur l'état de santé des voyageurs à l'arrivée quelque part...
Vous avez des exemples précis ?
J'ai déjà vu ça à Hong Kong je crois, au printemps 2006, à l'arrivée d'un vol en provenance de Delhi : on passait tous devant une caméra infra rouge, et le douanier signalait les gens qui avaient une température plus élevée, ces derniers étaient isolés. En revanche, je ne sais pas du tout quel sort leur était réservé.
C'est la seule et unique fois que j'ai vu un contrôle sur l'état de santé des voyageurs à l'arrivée quelque part...
Cyrille
Bonjour,
Oui, c'était la période SRAS ; je pense que ce genre de détecteur doit encore exister, mais c'était plus une mesure de communication qu'autre chose.
Michel
Oui, c'était la période SRAS ; je pense que ce genre de détecteur doit encore exister, mais c'était plus une mesure de communication qu'autre chose.
Michel
Contagion, si. Le port du masque par les personnes malades n'est pas encore dans les moeurs en France, mais voir les campagnes récentes de l'INPES.
Prendre l'avion au départ d'un pays touché par la grippe aviaire avec un syndrome grippal n'est d'ailleurs ni raisonnable ni conseillé...
Interdiction de vol? le cas Andrew Speaker est très spécifique et pas du tout extrapolable
Quarantaine? Un bien grand mot. Examens médicaux, très certainement, dans l'intérêt tant du malade que de la santé publique.
Bonsoir,
" Les exemples sont l'eternuement qui peut mener en quarantaine"
😏😏😏
Peux-tu me donner des exemples précis de passagers mis en quarantaine pour avoir éternué ?....
Michel
" Les exemples sont l'eternuement qui peut mener en quarantaine"
😏😏😏
Peux-tu me donner des exemples précis de passagers mis en quarantaine pour avoir éternué ?....
Michel
Plutôt dans les ports: Les passagers clandestins planqués dans des cachettes aménagées dans les véhicules ou les conteneurs
Ca ne s'appelle pas quarantaine, mais rétention administrative 😉
ême avec des lingettes de menthol pour dégager les sinus avant la phase d'atterrissage.
il vaut mieux utiliser des vasoconstricteurs par voie nasale (à voir avec ton médecin car sur ordonnance) à pulvériser environ 30min avant le début de descente
il vaut mieux utiliser des vasoconstricteurs par voie nasale (à voir avec ton médecin car sur ordonnance) à pulvériser environ 30min avant le début de descente
Effectivement madame, c'est de bla bla. En principe on doit écrire qulque chose que tous le monde puisse comprend.
HERZI
😉bonjour platyppus,
bien sure tu peux voyager lorsque tu as la grippe, mais il faut absolument que tu vois ton médecin qui te prescrira des médicaments que tu prendras quelques minutes avant le décollage, et puis bien macher un chwungom pendant le décollage et aussi à l'atterissage.et bon voyage.
bonjour platyppus,
bien sure tu peux voyager lorsque tu as la grippe, mais il faut absolument que tu vois ton médecin qui te prescrira des médicaments que tu prendras quelques minutes avant le décollage, et puis bien macher un chwungom pendant le décollage et aussi à l'atterissage.et bon voyage.
bonjour catachoque Ben c'est un peu ce que j'ai dit. Les médicaments utilisables ont une durée d'action de 6 à 8 heures, le temps nécessaire pour agir est plus long pour les comprimés ( à prendre 1 à 2 heures avant), pour les sprays effectivement quelques dizaines de minutes avant le décollage et l'atterrissage. Mais bon, efficacité inconstante et dépendant de la gravité du rhume...Et une perforation tympanique, ça met du temps à cicatriser... A noter puisque l'on parle d'équilibration tympanique, qu'un bébé même non enrhumé ne sait pas bien faire les gestes inconscients de déglutition, et que quand il hurle à la descente (parce qu'il a mal aux tympans), il suffit de lui faire boire un peu d'eau dans un biberon...
bonjour catachoque Ben c'est un peu ce que j'ai dit. Les médicaments utilisables ont une durée d'action de 6 à 8 heures, le temps nécessaire pour agir est plus long pour les comprimés ( à prendre 1 à 2 heures avant), pour les sprays effectivement quelques dizaines de minutes avant le décollage et l'atterrissage. Mais bon, efficacité inconstante et dépendant de la gravité du rhume...Et une perforation tympanique, ça met du temps à cicatriser... A noter puisque l'on parle d'équilibration tympanique, qu'un bébé même non enrhumé ne sait pas bien faire les gestes inconscients de déglutition, et que quand il hurle à la descente (parce qu'il a mal aux tympans), il suffit de lui faire boire un peu d'eau dans un biberon...
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But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
