Laisser un pourboire à la masseuse thaïlandaise?
by Geob
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
L'autre jour, a Chiang Rai, j'etais en train de ma faire masser les pieds quand survint un japonais que je venais de voir au au Seven/Eleven d'a coter. Il s'est approcher de ma masseuse et lui a tendu un billet...un pourboire, quoi. Au 7/11, il a du acheter quelque chose pour faire de la monnaie. Elle l'a remercier en se marrant, et le japonais est reparti tout content, tout fier de son geste. La masseuse n'arretait pas de se moquer de son geste. Devant mon incomprehension, elle a deplier le billet qu'elle avait poser negligemment sur un banc, a cote d'elle, comme si elle voulait se debarrasser de quelque chose d'inutile : c'etait un billet de 20 baths !
- Revenir pour me donner 20 baths ! 100 baths, d'accord, mais ving baths ! continuait-elle en se moquant du geste du japonais.
Pour ceux qui vont la premiere fois en Thailande, ne vous croyez donc pas obliger de laisser un pourboire ! Si vous entendez : "farang kinio", repondez en souriant : "mai chaille, pen prayat"
Vous dites ? Evidemment, je n'ai pas laisser de pourboire !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
L'autre jour, a Chiang Rai, j'etais en train de ma faire masser les pieds quand survint un japonais que je venais de voir au au Seven/Eleven d'a coter. Il s'est approcher de ma masseuse et lui a tendu un billet...un pourboire, quoi. Au 7/11, il a du acheter quelque chose pour faire de la monnaie. Elle l'a remercier en se marrant, et le japonais est reparti tout content, tout fier de son geste. La masseuse n'arretait pas de se moquer de son geste. Devant mon incomprehension, elle a deplier le billet qu'elle avait poser negligemment sur un banc, a cote d'elle, comme si elle voulait se debarrasser de quelque chose d'inutile : c'etait un billet de 20 baths !
- Revenir pour me donner 20 baths ! 100 baths, d'accord, mais ving baths ! continuait-elle en se moquant du geste du japonais.
Pour ceux qui vont la premiere fois en Thailande, ne vous croyez donc pas obliger de laisser un pourboire ! Si vous entendez : "farang kinio", repondez en souriant : "mai chaille, pen prayat"
Vous dites ? Evidemment, je n'ai pas laisser de pourboire !
Mais pour vous est ce que le massage etait bon et etes vous ressorti satisfait ? A titre personnel j'ai un masseur "attitré" (foot massage) dans un des salons du MBK et sur les 300 bahts que coute celui ci je lui laisse aussi 100 bahts en raison bien sur de la qualité du massage, et croyez moi que quand je reviens j'ai toujours droit au meilleur et plus longtemps.... Quant au japonais avec 20 bahts c'est assez insultant en effet pour une masseuse et 1h au moins de travail.
Mais pour vous est ce que le massage etait bon et etes vous ressorti satisfait ? A titre personnel j'ai un masseur "attitré" (foot massage) dans un des salons du MBK et sur les 300 bahts que coute celui ci je lui laisse aussi 100 bahts en raison bien sur de la qualité du massage, et croyez moi que quand je reviens j'ai toujours droit au meilleur et plus longtemps.... Quant au japonais avec 20 bahts c'est assez insultant en effet pour une masseuse et 1h au moins de travail.
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
a chiang mai dans la rue ou dans les entrees de temple comme dans thanon kondon par ex l heure de massage es a 120 bahts le masseur prend 50% donc 60 b un tip de 20 bahts ne me semble pas deplace, un tip de 100 b me semble trop, bon on peut avoir ses habitudes et prendre toujours le meme masseur mais il peut aussi avoir un mauvais jours ou etre fatigue et sa prestation s en ressentira
- Revenir pour me donner 20 baths ! 100 baths, d'accord, mais ving baths ! continuait-elle en se moquant du geste du japonais.
on vois bien que la thailande change, si un thaïe donne 20 bt, ( ce qui est rare ) il y auras un immense way ...............😉
on vois bien que la thailande change, si un thaïe donne 20 bt, ( ce qui est rare ) il y auras un immense way ...............😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Pourquoi ? vous en France vous laisser combien a votre estheticienne ou coiffeuse ou autre masseuse ? + de 10 euros ?
Alors le massage coute 300 bahts et pis vous laisser le tiers de pourboire ? donc pour un service en france quand vous en avez pour 100 euros et bien vous laissez 30 euros de pourboire ?
Et là ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de bon sens !
Alors le massage coute 300 bahts et pis vous laisser le tiers de pourboire ? donc pour un service en france quand vous en avez pour 100 euros et bien vous laissez 30 euros de pourboire ?
Et là ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de bon sens !
Dans le respect nait la liberté...
Moi quand j'etais serveur et qu'on me laisser 20 francs de pourboire j'etais content. Sous pretexte que le gars est japonais il devrait balancer les meme pourliches que chez lui, genre 150 ou 200 thb, le prix du massage quoi? 20 THB pour un massage a 200 THB ca fait du 10 %. C'est sur qu'on peut faire toujours mieux mais je ne trouve pas ca choquant.
L'autre jour, a Chiang Rai, j'etais en train de ma faire masser les pieds quand survint un japonais que je venais de voir au au Seven/Eleven d'a coter. Il s'est approcher de ma masseuse et lui a tendu un billet...un pourboire, quoi. Au 7/11, il a du acheter quelque chose pour faire de la monnaie. Elle l'a remercier en se marrant, et le japonais est reparti tout content, tout fier de son geste. La masseuse n'arretait pas de se moquer de son geste. Devant mon incomprehension, elle a deplier le billet qu'elle avait poser negligemment sur un banc, a cote d'elle, comme si elle voulait se debarrasser de quelque chose d'inutile : c'etait un billet de 20 baths !
- Revenir pour me donner 20 baths ! 100 baths, d'accord, mais ving baths ! continuait-elle en se moquant du geste du japonais.
Pour ceux qui vont la premiere fois en Thailande, ne vous croyez donc pas obliger de laisser un pourboire ! Si vous entendez : "farang kinio", repondez en souriant : "mai chaille, pen prayat"
Vous dites ? Evidemment, je n'ai pas laisser de pourboire !
De ce que je comprends, c'est qu'elle voulait plus que 20 bahts de ta part.......
De ce que je comprends, c'est qu'elle voulait plus que 20 bahts de ta part.......
S.D
Pourquoi ? vous en France vous laisser combien a votre estheticienne ou coiffeuse ou autre masseuse ? + de 10 euros ?
Alors le massage coute 300 bahts et pis vous laisser le tiers de pourboire ? donc pour un service en france quand vous en avez pour 100 euros et bien vous laissez 30 euros de pourboire ?
Et là ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de bon sens !
hélas(?) pas de pouboire en France pour les masseurs(j'allais écrire les "vrais" au risque de déchaîner la foudre) du moins les diplômés.En Thaïlande ou Asie du SE, si le massage est bien fait, je laisse un bon pourboire, par solidarité professionnelle; mais chacun est libre de son choix; le pouboire à la placeuse au théâtre m'a toujours un peu gonflé, parceque je trouve que le service n'est pas toujours correct, voire inexistant...
Alors le massage coute 300 bahts et pis vous laisser le tiers de pourboire ? donc pour un service en france quand vous en avez pour 100 euros et bien vous laissez 30 euros de pourboire ?
Et là ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de bon sens !
hélas(?) pas de pouboire en France pour les masseurs(j'allais écrire les "vrais" au risque de déchaîner la foudre) du moins les diplômés.En Thaïlande ou Asie du SE, si le massage est bien fait, je laisse un bon pourboire, par solidarité professionnelle; mais chacun est libre de son choix; le pouboire à la placeuse au théâtre m'a toujours un peu gonflé, parceque je trouve que le service n'est pas toujours correct, voire inexistant...
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
J'ai toujours donné au moins 25% de pourboire. J'ai toujours eu le sentiment (pour ne pas dire la certitude) qu'elles attendaient un pourboire de la part des touristes. Après tout elles ont plus de boulot avec nous qu'avec des Thais surtout si on pèse 100 KG 😏
Ha le pourboire est donc en fonction de la masse massée? 😇 Le "tip" au kilo, j'y avais pas pensé 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Pourquoi ? vous en France vous laisser combien a votre estheticienne ou coiffeuse ou autre masseuse ? + de 10 euros ?
Alors le massage coute 300 bahts et pis vous laisser le tiers de pourboire ? donc pour un service en france quand vous en avez pour 100 euros et bien vous laissez 30 euros de pourboire ?
Et là ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de bon sens !
Cher ami,
En France quand on me sert un café (par exemple) je paie 2€ (moyenne basse n🤪) ou 15 € pour un repas et je ne laisse pas de pourboire car le SERVICE EST COMPRIS DEDANS (15%). Ca n'est surement pas le cas en Thailande..... Ca n'est pas du bon sens mais une obligation légale !!
Alors le massage coute 300 bahts et pis vous laisser le tiers de pourboire ? donc pour un service en france quand vous en avez pour 100 euros et bien vous laissez 30 euros de pourboire ?
Et là ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de bon sens !
Cher ami,
En France quand on me sert un café (par exemple) je paie 2€ (moyenne basse n🤪) ou 15 € pour un repas et je ne laisse pas de pourboire car le SERVICE EST COMPRIS DEDANS (15%). Ca n'est surement pas le cas en Thailande..... Ca n'est pas du bon sens mais une obligation légale !!
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
profil "sumo" çà coûte combien ?? 😉😉😇 en Thaïlande, en Suisse ?
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Intéressant, çà !
Tout d'abord, si la masseuse est "libre", elle empoche le prix de la prestation et il n'y a pas de pourboire à donner sauf ...
Le pourboire, c'est pour les employés ...
Ensuite, un pourboire est fonction de la somme payée, 20 bahts pour 200 bahts, c'est correc', c'est ce qu'on laisse au restau à la serveuse qui nous fait toujours au moins un grand sourire ...
Par contre, lorsqu'on n'est pas content ...
Et puis, il y a les circonstances exceptionnelles, l'autre jour on nous a montré les chatons nouveaux-nés de la minette de la cabane d'en face, en partant on a donné un cadeau "pour le chat".
NB: Au début, j'achetais mes glaçons à une petite (8-10 ans), je payais d'abord (20 bahts) puis lui glissais un autre billet (pour elle, pas pour la caisse).
Le pourboire, c'est "comme on le sent", si çà vous coince, c'est mauvais signe (pour vous).
Tout d'abord, si la masseuse est "libre", elle empoche le prix de la prestation et il n'y a pas de pourboire à donner sauf ...
Le pourboire, c'est pour les employés ...
Ensuite, un pourboire est fonction de la somme payée, 20 bahts pour 200 bahts, c'est correc', c'est ce qu'on laisse au restau à la serveuse qui nous fait toujours au moins un grand sourire ...
Par contre, lorsqu'on n'est pas content ...
Et puis, il y a les circonstances exceptionnelles, l'autre jour on nous a montré les chatons nouveaux-nés de la minette de la cabane d'en face, en partant on a donné un cadeau "pour le chat".
NB: Au début, j'achetais mes glaçons à une petite (8-10 ans), je payais d'abord (20 bahts) puis lui glissais un autre billet (pour elle, pas pour la caisse).
Le pourboire, c'est "comme on le sent", si çà vous coince, c'est mauvais signe (pour vous).
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Et puis, il y a les circonstances exceptionnelles, l'autre jour on nous a montré les chatons nouveaux-nés de la minette de la cabane d'en face, en partant on a donné un cadeau "pour le chat". C'était pour le repas du soir? 😇😄😏😏😏😛😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Eh non, le soir on reste chez nous (la nuit appartient aux touristes bourrés ...).
La veille on avait vu cette minette avec le ventre rond et on avait sympathisé ...
On nous a fait savoir le lendemain que les petits étaient nés !
Je sais, on est dingues (des chats) mais comme on ne se soigne pas, c'est pô grav' ... (enfin, pas vraiment)
La veille on avait vu cette minette avec le ventre rond et on avait sympathisé ...
On nous a fait savoir le lendemain que les petits étaient nés !
Je sais, on est dingues (des chats) mais comme on ne se soigne pas, c'est pô grav' ... (enfin, pas vraiment)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
On croit voir ca sur ton avatar en effet 😛 Excuses moi pour la mauvaise blague mais ma chère moitié n'est pas trop fan des bébêtes, quelles qu'elles soient sinon dans l'assiette 😉 mais ni chat, ni chien, ni buffalo et encore moins de l'éléphant, toute sorte d'insecte étant accepté sauf les mouches et les mosquitos (j'allais oublier) 🤪
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Ma mère était aussi comme çà (pas de poil sur les tapis ...), donc je connais !
Mais c'est une réaction due à l'ignorance, on peut aussi communiquer avec des "petits êtres", même si c'est plus difficile qu'avec des êtres humains.
Et puis qui sait si dans ce chat qui rôde le soir à la recherche de souris il n'y a pas l'âme réincarnée d'un être cher ?
Un des intérêts que je trouve dans le bouddhisme, c'est le sentiment de communauté de vie entre les êtres (même si ce n'est pas toujours bien respecté), on voit souvent des arbres ceints de foulards de couleur par ici ...
Mais c'est une réaction due à l'ignorance, on peut aussi communiquer avec des "petits êtres", même si c'est plus difficile qu'avec des êtres humains.
Et puis qui sait si dans ce chat qui rôde le soir à la recherche de souris il n'y a pas l'âme réincarnée d'un être cher ?
Un des intérêts que je trouve dans le bouddhisme, c'est le sentiment de communauté de vie entre les êtres (même si ce n'est pas toujours bien respecté), on voit souvent des arbres ceints de foulards de couleur par ici ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Ben deja elle les bouffe pas c'est deja un 1er pas pour la réincarnation, les aimer est une autre chose, le ménage pour les poils des bébêtes en est un autre, une question d'hygiène comme disait ta mère (une femme de bon sens) 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Hygiène ?
Mes chats sont brossés chaque jour sur toutes les coutures, il suffit de leur montrer la brosse pour qu'ils se pointent.
J'ai pensé à faire un coussin avec les poils récupérés sur la brosse en question mais j'en cause ...
(J'espère que votre dame ne vous mettra pas à la porte le jour où vous commencerez à perdre vos cheveux ... il y a déjà eu des divorces pour moins que çà)
Mes chats sont brossés chaque jour sur toutes les coutures, il suffit de leur montrer la brosse pour qu'ils se pointent.
J'ai pensé à faire un coussin avec les poils récupérés sur la brosse en question mais j'en cause ...
(J'espère que votre dame ne vous mettra pas à la porte le jour où vous commencerez à perdre vos cheveux ... il y a déjà eu des divorces pour moins que çà)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
c'est le sentiment de communauté de vie entre les êtres
T'as pas dû bien regarder la gueule des clebards...
En Thaïlande, il y a des chiens partout ...
Et je "lis" beaucoup de choses dans le regard de certains, c'est peut-être un fantasme, peut-être pas, comment vérifier ?
(La seule chose qui m'horripile, ce sont les aboiements, j'ai dû être chat dans une autre vie !)
T'as pas dû bien regarder la gueule des clebards...
En Thaïlande, il y a des chiens partout ...
Et je "lis" beaucoup de choses dans le regard de certains, c'est peut-être un fantasme, peut-être pas, comment vérifier ?
(La seule chose qui m'horripile, ce sont les aboiements, j'ai dû être chat dans une autre vie !)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Les phobies tu connais? Je vais pas te raconter sa vie mais elle a peut-être bien ses raisons 😛 Je crains rien sur mes cheveux non plus, elle en perd plus que moi 😉😄😏😏😏
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Cher ami...si je calcule bien 15 % de 200 baht cela fait 30 baths et pas 100 bth...j'ai jamais dit que je ne donnais pas de pourboire ...mais il faut etre raisonnable ! je le sais car j'ai tendance a donner bcp ;) trouvant toujours une bonne raison !!!
En France les je ne pense pas que ces 15 % de pourboire se retrouve dans la poche des serveurs !!!
Dans le respect nait la liberté...
Elle l'a remercier en se marrant, et le japonais est reparti tout content, tout fier de son geste. La masseuse n'arretait pas de se moquer de son geste. Devant mon incomprehension, elle a deplier le billet qu'elle avait poser negligemment sur un banc, a cote d'elle, comme si elle voulait se debarrasser de quelque chose d'inutile : c'etait un billet de 20 baths !
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tu as interprete qu elle se moquait de lui, elle riait tout simplement et je ne pense pas quelle crachait sur les 20 b une petite masseuse a chiang rai meme si elle voit passer beaucoup de touristes tout les jours doit avoir beaucoup de mal a comprendre le farang juste quelques a priori et le blabla entre copines et katoy au boulot, a peu pres autant que toi a comprendre les thais, vu ta reaction
tu as interprete qu elle se moquait de lui, elle riait tout simplement et je ne pense pas quelle crachait sur les 20 b une petite masseuse a chiang rai meme si elle voit passer beaucoup de touristes tout les jours doit avoir beaucoup de mal a comprendre le farang juste quelques a priori et le blabla entre copines et katoy au boulot, a peu pres autant que toi a comprendre les thais, vu ta reaction
sympathisé avec le ventre rond !
pour Bombastic : on ne naît pas avec une ou des phobies, et aujourd'hui cela se soigne très bien avec la psychologie comportementale ou PNL 😉
je constate 😇 que du pourboire ns sommes passés à une discussion sur nos animaux à poils ! il faudrait revenir aux "animaux" sur deux pattes et leur relation à l'argent ! moi, j'aime le système français, pourboire compris ! qui sans doute ne retourne pas ds sa totalité dans l'escarcelle du prestateur disons ... de Service 😇 ainsi je suis libre de décider si je donne un pourboire ou pas, je ne suis pas prise ainsi, au cas où je donne peut ou rien ... en flagrant délit de radinerie ou de "rétention" !! ... ou tt simplement en délit de fuite ....
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
hélas(?) pas de pouboire en France pour les masseurs(j'allais écrire les "vrais" au risque de déchaîner la foudre) du moins les diplômés.
c'est exactement la même chose en thailande, dans la vrais salons de massage personnes ne paye ( le problème c'est, Ils ne sont pas dans les endroits touristiques😛, et je dirais mieux, les farangs ne sont pas très well come, 🤪 la raison essentielle ??, est que ils ne savent pas se comporter, ( sa c'est un peut normal et pardonnable ) mais que ils puent, ............... 😠 es que on va chez le dentiste sans se brosser les dents avant?
mais bon. les pseudo salons massages pour touriste, c'est un autre businesse,
c'est exactement la même chose en thailande, dans la vrais salons de massage personnes ne paye ( le problème c'est, Ils ne sont pas dans les endroits touristiques😛, et je dirais mieux, les farangs ne sont pas très well come, 🤪 la raison essentielle ??, est que ils ne savent pas se comporter, ( sa c'est un peut normal et pardonnable ) mais que ils puent, ............... 😠 es que on va chez le dentiste sans se brosser les dents avant?
mais bon. les pseudo salons massages pour touriste, c'est un autre businesse,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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mais bon. les pseudo salons massages pour touriste, c'est un autre businesse,
C'était une allusion à la célèbre "bête à trois pattes" 😉
C'était une allusion à la célèbre "bête à trois pattes" 😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Un des intérêts que je trouve dans le bouddhisme, c'est le sentiment de communauté de vie entre les êtres (même si ce n'est pas toujours bien respecté), on voit souvent des arbres ceints de foulards de couleur par ici ...--
C' est quoi? Pour marquer un esprit de communaute avec les arbres??? Tu es sur que ce n' est pas plutot une pratique animiste? J' ai vu ca dans d' autres endroits en Thailande et j' ai bien vu les gens faire un wai de respect en passant devant. Peut-etre une autre forme du culte des esprits, en plus des petites maisons "phi" qu' on voit partout en Thailande. Le bouddhisme n' empeche, ni en Thailande ni dans d' autres pays......
C'était une allusion à la célèbre "bête à trois pattes" 
non, celle de touts ses saloons près de hôtels, qui affichent traditional massage, et qui font croire aux touristes que c'est du massage, quant la masseuse a un diplôme de 1 jours entre copines, pour montrer les basses, et qui sont attirer plus par les pourboires que des résultats,
les vrais c'est différent, déjà sa sent le camphre, des que on rentre, et il y a une majorité de masseurs qui sont des homes ......., puis les prix, varient entre 100 et 150 bt de l'heure, , et ne pas dire je veut 1 h un vrais massage dure minimum 2 h, et je vous garantie que on ne sort pas frais, ( par contre, 2 jours après on vois les résultats, )
pas de problèmes ? pas de pourboire ? aller chez les aveugles, la c'est pas mal 😉

non, celle de touts ses saloons près de hôtels, qui affichent traditional massage, et qui font croire aux touristes que c'est du massage, quant la masseuse a un diplôme de 1 jours entre copines, pour montrer les basses, et qui sont attirer plus par les pourboires que des résultats,
les vrais c'est différent, déjà sa sent le camphre, des que on rentre, et il y a une majorité de masseurs qui sont des homes ......., puis les prix, varient entre 100 et 150 bt de l'heure, , et ne pas dire je veut 1 h un vrais massage dure minimum 2 h, et je vous garantie que on ne sort pas frais, ( par contre, 2 jours après on vois les résultats, )
pas de problèmes ? pas de pourboire ? aller chez les aveugles, la c'est pas mal 😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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bonjour
moi je vais ni vous parler de pourboire, encore moins de chat ... mais me faire masser les pieds pendand une heure devant un temple ou au bord de la route pendant le marcher du dimanche soir a chiang mai c est pas mon truc, j ai l impression de rabaisser les gens! mais bon cela regarde que moi... redbull
moi je vais ni vous parler de pourboire, encore moins de chat ... mais me faire masser les pieds pendand une heure devant un temple ou au bord de la route pendant le marcher du dimanche soir a chiang mai c est pas mon truc, j ai l impression de rabaisser les gens! mais bon cela regarde que moi... redbull
Ha le pourboire est donc en fonction de la masse massée? 😇 Le "tip" au kilo, j'y avais pas pensé 😉
pas faux; j'ai toujours pensé que si j'avais été payé au kg je serais millionnaire😉
ps; si on regarde bien ; dans les avions; tu pèses 70 kg ; 3-4 kg d'excédent bagages tu paies; un gars de 95 kg, 0 kg excédent paie en fait moins que toi; logique???
PS2; une discussion qui peut "chauffer"😏😏
pas faux; j'ai toujours pensé que si j'avais été payé au kg je serais millionnaire😉
ps; si on regarde bien ; dans les avions; tu pèses 70 kg ; 3-4 kg d'excédent bagages tu paies; un gars de 95 kg, 0 kg excédent paie en fait moins que toi; logique???
PS2; une discussion qui peut "chauffer"😏😏
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
possible 😉, , moi je n'ai jamais vu de pourboires, 🤪 il faut dire que je suis le genre fidèle, et ne va pas de un endroit a un autre,
mais bon au début j'ai bien être dans les salons près des infrastructures touristiques,
mais bon au début j'ai bien être dans les salons près des infrastructures touristiques,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Quand au japonais avec 20 baths, c'est assez insultant...
Insultant ? 😮
Le massage coutait 150 baths ! Ving baths, ce n'est pas rien ! Ainsi, par exemple, pres de Pratu Chiang Mai, ou a Chiang Rai pres de la gare routiere, tu entres dans un restau vegetarien (tres frequenter par les thailandaises), tu demandes du riz - et c'est du riz complet!- avec deux choix de legumes, un petit dejeuner roboratif pour 20 baths ! Ou alors prend un kao man kai quelque part...20 baths aussi !
300 baths pour se faire masser les pieds ! Ouh la ! Bon allez, c'est Bkk! Mais sur Yaowarat, il y a un centre commercial relativement discret, frequenter quasiment que par des chinois, dans lequel se trouvent deux salons de massage au tarif plus raisonnable - je ne vois pas beaucoup de thai accepter un tel tarif et encore moins de donner 100 baths, ce qui fait un massage des pieds a...400baths !
Siderant !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
on voit bien que la Thailande change...
Tu trouveras l'esquisse du debut d'un commencement d'explication en lisant quelques reponses dans ce post.
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
toi tu n'a rien donne
Et comment ! Je n'ai pas "le sanglot de l'homme blanc" ! Et d'ailleurs, meme a Paris, il n'est pas question que je laisse un pourboire ! Je suis siderer de voir des gens, boire un cafe 1 euro 20 et laisser 10, 20, voir 50 centimes de pourboire, comme si c'etait des centimes de franc !
Quand aux voyageurs japonais, se sont que je prefere rencontrer en voyage, je les adore ! Ils ou elles sont polies, interesser par tous ce qu'ils voient, posent des questions sur ton pays, s'etonnent lorsqu'on leur prouve qu'on aime leurs ecrivains, leurs cineastes...mais ils sont parfois un peu naifs !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
cad 200 baths par pied 😉😉
et ceux qui se font faire ... 😇 ... des massages particuliers ... çà coûte combien 😊 ceci en toute innocence, c'est simplement pour me rendre compte si le prix de deux pieds !!! seuls !!! est en relation avec l'ensemble ...
peut-être que finalement ce sont les pieds qui coûtent le + cher 😎😎
moi, je fais du 36 ... et ceux qui font du 44 ... question épineuse ! je vous l'avoue ! mais il fait soleil sur Nantes et cela aide !!!! les neurones s'emballent !!!
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
toi tu n'a rien donne
Et comment ! Je n'ai pas "le sanglot de l'homme blanc" ! Et d'ailleurs, meme a Paris, il n'est pas question que je laisse un pourboire ! Je suis sideré de voir des gens, boire un cafe 1 euro 20 et laisser 10, 20, voir 50 centimes de pourboire, comme si c'etait des centimes de franc !
Et un crevard de + !! Désolé, je préfère déployer de l'énergie (et des idées) pour gagner de l'argent plutot qu'a l'économiser. C'est moins malsain et plus rentable, tous comptes faits.... 😉
Et un crevard de + !! Désolé, je préfère déployer de l'énergie (et des idées) pour gagner de l'argent plutot qu'a l'économiser. C'est moins malsain et plus rentable, tous comptes faits.... 😉
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Je n'ai pas tout lu et ne suis jamais allé en Thaïlande, mais pour travailler dans un métier de service et avoir un peu voyagé, j'ai toujours constataté que le pourboire était bien accueilli par les locaux et par l'humanité engénéral. C'est une reconnaissance du travail accompli et le "plus" qui va sensibiliser le "worker" pour ses taches futures. Il est toutefois évident que le pourboire doit être en accord avec le lieu, la qualité de la prestation et en rapport avec le prix de la prestation de départ.
Force et Humilité
j'ai toujours constatâté que le pourboire était bien accueilli
Vous semblez faire erreur, le pourboire est censé être donné par le client et pas par celui qui "tâte" 😉
Vous semblez faire erreur, le pourboire est censé être donné par le client et pas par celui qui "tâte" 😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Rectification, sache que la masseuse ne touchera que le 1/3 au maximum de la somme que tu paies pour un massage. Elle vivent sur les pourboires. Come on !!!be a good Suisse, comme moi et sors un peu tes billets. Ne compare pas la Thailande avec la Suisse, même que je connaisse des gens qui laissent de bon pourboires à leur coiffeur par exemple.
Si tu veux rendre des gens reconnaissants et contents à moindre frais, donnes leur un petit pourboire et tu seras toujours très bien reçu sans forcément être pris pour un pigeon.
Last but not least, 100 baths ok pour un massage des pieds mais pour le reste tu en sortiras quelques-uns de plus😊🏴☠️😛
A bon entendeur......
Salutations d'Indonésie.
Si tu veux rendre des gens reconnaissants et contents à moindre frais, donnes leur un petit pourboire et tu seras toujours très bien reçu sans forcément être pris pour un pigeon.
Last but not least, 100 baths ok pour un massage des pieds mais pour le reste tu en sortiras quelques-uns de plus😊🏴☠️😛
A bon entendeur......
Salutations d'Indonésie.
Jean-Jacques
Rectification, sache que la masseuse ne touchera que le 1/3 au maximum de la somme que tu paies pour un massage.
Pas toujours !
Les dernières que j'ai utilisé (y compris pour ma femme), un coup de fil et elles se pointent à domicile.
Celles-là touchent 100% ...
Sur les plages, il y a deux sortes, celles qui viennent "à la place" (rare) et qui touchent 100%, et celles qui travaillent sur un "cabanon" (bambou, parfois en dur) et qui touchent aussi 100% mais payent au mois un "loyer".
Pas toujours !
Les dernières que j'ai utilisé (y compris pour ma femme), un coup de fil et elles se pointent à domicile.
Celles-là touchent 100% ...
Sur les plages, il y a deux sortes, celles qui viennent "à la place" (rare) et qui touchent 100%, et celles qui travaillent sur un "cabanon" (bambou, parfois en dur) et qui touchent aussi 100% mais payent au mois un "loyer".
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
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Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
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Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
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Day 20: Return flight.
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
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Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
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Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
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Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
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Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!







