je compte louer un véhicule, sur marrakech, j'aimerai connaître le comportement à adopter, si nous nous faisons arrêter pour une éventuelle infraction, y a t' il de la corruption, des bakchichs éventuelles ? quelle somme donner ?
Bjr, je vais souvent au Maroc j'ai un appart a EL Jadida, concernant la voiture 2 choses importantes:
1:aucune regle de conduite pour les deux roues, donc une prudence extreme, cela vient de partout et ne respecte rien.
2:des controles de police "bidon" avec un tarif de 400dh qui peut se regler avec 100dh de la main a la main.
conduire dans marrakech
il faut etre attentif ca roule dans tout les sens
attention surtout au mobylette le soir sans eclairage
sinon pour la police si tu respecte le code de la route( quand il y en as)
tu n'auras pas de soucis
cela fait 2 fois que je loue un vehicule au maroc ayant passer pleins de controle routier je n'ai jamais eu de probleme
si tu arrive sur un barrage de police surtout arrete toi au niveau du panneau qu'il mette sur le bord de la route et attend que le policier te fasse signe de passer
attention au jumelle et radar car eu aussi son equipes j'en ai meme vu dans les bleds limitee pour certain a 40 km/h
Bonjour, comme le dit les deux précédents du forum, il faut faire attention à tout, surtout au deux roues qui ont prirorité sur tout et les ânes qui arrivent à contre sens de la circulation, même en cas d'accrochage avec l'un deux et même si on a raison, c'est tout un problème pour rédiger un constat, il y a aussitôt un groupe qui se forme et encore d'autres qui arrivent et on y comprend plus rien, et bien entendu la police n'est jamais là et quand on leur tél c'est toujours occupé. comme la majorité non pas d'assurance, c'est bien difficile.donc on se démerde comme on peut !.....
De plus ici la priorité à droite n'existe pas, c'est la route la plus passagère qui passe.
Quand les feux tricolores sont au vert et qu'ils passent à l'orange, arrêtez vous même à l'orange car sinon nous sommes arrêtés et ils nous disent vous êtes passés au rouge même si c'est orange.
Pour les limitations de vitesse, faites attention regardez bien les panneaux et ne dépassez pas la vitesse inscrite même de 2 ou 3 Kmh sinon interpellation et peut ëtre 400 Dh ou Bakchich de 50 dh, ici toutes les contravention sont à 400 Dh .
Quand vous êtes arrêtés au feu rouge, faites attention quand il passe au vert, car celui qui est à votre droite va à gauche et vis versa et mlgré que lefeu soit vert pour nous certains continues à passer dans l'autre sens mais c'est comme cela sur Marrakech.
Surtout ne pas rouler à la tombée de la nuit, personnes n'a d'éclairage et on peut tomber sur n'importe quel obstacle non signalé, même les travaux de voirie pour réfection de la chaussée ne sont pas signalés, certaines fois il y à des pierres empilées les unes sur les autres pour signaler des travaux ou un véhicule en panne .
Mais le Maroc est quand même un pas magique, mais faites attention sur la route.
Cordialement
JC
merci pour tous ces conseils, j'avoue que ça fait un peu hésiter de louer une voiture, il est vrai que je ne loue la voiture que pour sortir de marrakech et aller sur fes, je ne circulerai donc que très peu en ville.
par contre concrètement comment procède t'on pour ne donner que 5 ou 10 euros au lieu de payer la contravention ? on dit simplement que l'on a que ça sur nous ?
Je ne voudrais pas risquer d'etre embarqué pour tentative de corruption de fonctionnaire .
Je vous remercie de m'indiquer le comportement à adopter.
GUY
une question concernant El djadida, c'est une ville de quelle taille ? Le climat d'octobre à mars est il presque aussi clément qu'à Agadir, je pose cette question car je suis tenté pour la retraite de passer 6 mois par an à Agadir, mais je trouve la ville un peu trop grande à mon goût, je recherche une ville à taille humaine, par contre le climat l'hiver me tente beaucoup.
tout ce que les amis prècedents ont dit est juste il faut etre plus prudent dans marrakech comme c'est une ville plate il ya beaucoup de biçyclettes et mobylettes et la limite de vitesse en ville est 60km/h das laes autoroutes 120km/h la nationale 100km/h sur la route toujours faire attention dans les entrèes de chaque village on trove d'abord 80 et puis tout d'un coup 60 si on respecte personne ne va vous embeter et si jamais vous avez fait une faute avec un sourire aux gendarmes et leur demender l'exuse avec biensure 50 ou 100 dh à la main et ça ira sans aucain problème comme ils vont dire que tu connais bien le maroc et te laisse partir .bon courage
bonjour,
tout d'abord, j'insiste que ces messages ne sont pas destinés à promouvoir la corruption.
et pour éviter de se faire arreter sur la route le mieux est d'adopter un comportement exemplaire au volant.
si toute fois vous vous faites arreter sur la route sans avoir commis une infraction et que vous ne voulez pas trop perdre du temps à negocier les raisons avec le policier, glissez un billet de 20dhs dans votre permis avant de le presenter aux flics.
si vous avez commis une infraction, le montant du bakchich dépendra de l'infraction commise et du montant de l'amende.
pour un excés de vitesse, l'amende est de 400dhs, alors vaut mieux glisser un billet de 100 dhs.
sacez aussi que tous les flics ne sont pas corruptibles etq ue vous pourrez avoir des problèmes i vous essayer de corrompre l'un de ceux là.
Soyez plutôt prudent et respectez le code, il ne vous arrivera rien et ne denigrez pas la corporation gratuitement en mettant tout le monde dans le même sac.Je crois qu' il est indécent de parler de ce genre de choses sur un forum et cela porte un nom:DIFFAMATION.
Bonsoir.
1.En France, on paye les pv a L etat .L etat paye bien les flics.
2.Au Maroc, on paye les pv directement aux flics .C juste 1 gain du temps.
Deconnez pas ;continuer a donner :ils sont armes et gagne 230 euros/mois .
Bonsoir.
1.En France, on paye les pv a L etat .L etat paye bien les flics.
2.Au Maroc, on paye les pv directement aux flics .C juste 1 gain du temps.
Deconnez pas ;continuer a donner :ils sont armes et gagne 230 euros/mois .
et mon mari travaille du lundi matin au dimanche soir 9h par jour pour 250€
et au marché de gros il n'y a pas de bakchich
il n-y-a plus de corruptions pour l'excés de vitesse car le gouvernement a adopté de nouveaux radars à mémoire
dès qu'il te capte il mémorise l'infraction dans une eeprom intégrée
fin de journée le centre de police verifie l'eeprom et envoi le nombre d'infractions au serveur de la ministère de l'interieur
donc le flic doit verser la somme d'argent complete sinon il paye de sa poche
BONJOUR
LA coruption est une gangrene erite des annees de plomb
elle existe a tout les niveau et c est une triste realite et pas une difamation comme le disent certain beni oui oui
preuve regarder les infrastructures qui rende l ame apres une averse de pluie
ou sont les architecte les bureau d etudes et les controleur des commune et prefecture qui on receptionner ces traveaux chez ces entrepreuneur verreu tous corrompus
la coruption des flic est que de la bricole a cote
pour les flic le tarif est le suivant
20 dh si vous avez rien fais
50 dh pour une infraction imaginaire
100dh si vous ete vraimant fautif
le mieux c est eviter ou il sont demander au routier
pour les grands axe vous devez etre atentif a ceux qui circule dans l autre sens
des que vous voyez des signne phare code c est qu il y a un controle ou radar devant vous faite gaffe
et une foix les avoir depasse signalez au autre
LARBI
BONSOIR
Pourquoi il faut pas parler d une triste realite qui continue a gangrener notre pays
vous conseiller de la subir et se taire
pour la police c est le secret de polichinel
et ces ponts qui s ecroule des qu il pleu ces routes qui redeviennent des pistes a la moindre averse
fruit d entrepreneurs verreux et des bureaux d etudes bidon architecte et des communes qui receptionne des traveaux comme ca pourquoi il leur arive rien
la coruption des flic c est de la bibine a cote de plus grandes coruption
C EST UNE REALITE PAS DE LA DIFAMATION C EST LE SYSTEME MAKHENIEN
LARBI
merci pour les infos
je regrette presque d'avoir posé la question, vu les polémiques que cela génére.
Je ne porte pour ma part aucun jugement négatif sur ce point, c'est pour moi un fait de société lié en grande partie à la misère.
La majorité des gens s'en sortent comme ils le peuvent, il est possible que certains exagèrent, mais il est humain d'essayer de faire vivre sa famille décemment, moi même pendant ma période de chômage, je n'ai pas été exemplaire aux yeux de la loi, mais maintenant que je peux vivre décemment grâce à un boulot régulier, je ne suis plus tenté d'être dans l'illégalité, le jeu ne vaut pas la chandelle, la question morale vient en second lieu.
Donc il faut éviter de porter des jugements hatifs, si l'on a pas vécu la situation.
merci à tous pour votre aide avec mes excuses.
bonsoir
je ne porte pas de jugement mais donne un constat de fais
il faut pas oublier q on est au maroc et c est triste de voir des racketeur raqueter plus pauvre que lui
et la coruptions doit etre denonce et pas proteger
il faut pas oublier qu il y a des honnete gent qui la subissent tant qu il y a pas un systeme repressif contre la coruptions elle continuras le cytoyens n a aucun droit ou pouvoir contre ce mal il a toujour torddevant le representant de la loi
LARBI
Bonsoir Larbi.
Exagerons pas .En France c pas mieux :Ayant grille 1 petit feu rouge, amende de 90 eur, alcootest(negatif), 2 points de moins, tribunal(avec retrait de permis pour 1 mois )LA c exagere ... c dommage que c pas 1 flic Marocain (j aurais negocie)
je pensais que ces pratiques s'exerçaient principalement sur les touristes, qui certes ne sont pas tous fortunés, mais peuvent un peu mieux le supporter, qu'un modeste marocain.
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
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