qq as-t-il fait l experience d un voyage moto de Hanoi vers la Sapa? C est faisable, quel est l etat des routes (ca serait en septembre) - route goudronnees ou en terre? Pas trop dangereux? On voudrait partir a 2 sur une moto. Dans ce cas, des conseils ou louer une moto pour ce voyage? Il parait aussi qu on peut nous fournir des sacs pour accrocher sur la moto pour mettre nos affaires et qu il serait possible de laisser le reste de nos sac-a-dos chez le loueur... bon, je ne sais pas, ca parait un peu risque pour la securite de nos affaires ... Qq l´a fait??? Merci d avance pour partager vos experiences eventuelles :-)
Vietnam: voyage à moto de Hanoi vers Sapa?
by Mirkakoste
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
qq as-t-il fait l experience d un voyage moto de Hanoi vers la Sapa? C est faisable, quel est l etat des routes (ca serait en septembre) - route goudronnees ou en terre? Pas trop dangereux? On voudrait partir a 2 sur une moto. Dans ce cas, des conseils ou louer une moto pour ce voyage? Il parait aussi qu on peut nous fournir des sacs pour accrocher sur la moto pour mettre nos affaires et qu il serait possible de laisser le reste de nos sac-a-dos chez le loueur... bon, je ne sais pas, ca parait un peu risque pour la securite de nos affaires ... Qq l´a fait??? Merci d avance pour partager vos experiences eventuelles :-)
qq as-t-il fait l experience d un voyage moto de Hanoi vers la Sapa? C est faisable, quel est l etat des routes (ca serait en septembre) - route goudronnees ou en terre? Pas trop dangereux? On voudrait partir a 2 sur une moto. Dans ce cas, des conseils ou louer une moto pour ce voyage? Il parait aussi qu on peut nous fournir des sacs pour accrocher sur la moto pour mettre nos affaires et qu il serait possible de laisser le reste de nos sac-a-dos chez le loueur... bon, je ne sais pas, ca parait un peu risque pour la securite de nos affaires ... Qq l´a fait??? Merci d avance pour partager vos experiences eventuelles :-)
Un regard est dans tout pays un langage.
(George Herbert)
Il fait froid parce qu'on regarde là où il n'y a pas de chaleur.
(Alexandra David-Neel)
Pour les voyages en moto, avec guide ou en solo, la meilleure adresse, de loin, est La Bourlingue, donc, voir leur site et leur envoyer un message a l'attention de Sylvia (elle parle le francais impec), super efficace (non, je ne travaille pas pour eux et il ne me donne pas de comm!). Ils ont des Minsk (parfait vu l'etat des routes) avec sacoches
Je suis sur que tu vas avoir des messages sur les dangers -physiques et avec la police en cas d'accident- de voyager seul en moto. Les routes st de tres mauvaises a epouvantables. C'est bien simple: il est totalement illegal de conduire au Vietnam sans permis vietnamien; "on" va aussi te dire qu'"on" le fait tt le temps; ceux-la ont eu la chance de n'avoir aucun pb jusqu'a aujourd'hui, mais, le jour ou ca va leur arriver, ce qui est ineluctable vu la facon dont les locaux conduisent, ils vont changer d'avis. UP TO YOU !
Je suis sur que tu vas avoir des messages sur les dangers -physiques et avec la police en cas d'accident- de voyager seul en moto. Les routes st de tres mauvaises a epouvantables. C'est bien simple: il est totalement illegal de conduire au Vietnam sans permis vietnamien; "on" va aussi te dire qu'"on" le fait tt le temps; ceux-la ont eu la chance de n'avoir aucun pb jusqu'a aujourd'hui, mais, le jour ou ca va leur arriver, ce qui est ineluctable vu la facon dont les locaux conduisent, ils vont changer d'avis. UP TO YOU !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Ah voila qui parle voyage un peu, ca fait plaisir.
Decouvrir le Nord a moto est une experience extraordinaire et je t encourage dans ton projet. Pour ce qui est de la location, je te conseille la Compagnie Bourlingue, 28 Dao Duy Tu dans la vieille ville. Pionner des tours a moto dans le Nord depuis plus de 15 ans, ils louent egalement des Minsks et te donneront de bons conseils. Minsk avec sacoches, outils, carte et casque : 12$/jour.
Faire Hanoi - Sapa, plusieurs itineraire possible. En voici 3 :
Boucle classique : Hanoi - Mai Chau - Son La - Dien Bien Phu ou Muong Lay - Tam Duong - Sapa
Hanoi - Lac Thac Ba - Ngia Lo - Mu Can Chai - Sapa
Hanoi - Thac Ba - Hoang Su Phi - Bac Ha - Sapa
Beaucoup mettent la moto dans le train pour le retour. Dommage la route est sublime.
N hesites a m ecrire en MP pour d autres infos.
Bonne route
Decouvrir le Nord a moto est une experience extraordinaire et je t encourage dans ton projet. Pour ce qui est de la location, je te conseille la Compagnie Bourlingue, 28 Dao Duy Tu dans la vieille ville. Pionner des tours a moto dans le Nord depuis plus de 15 ans, ils louent egalement des Minsks et te donneront de bons conseils. Minsk avec sacoches, outils, carte et casque : 12$/jour.
Faire Hanoi - Sapa, plusieurs itineraire possible. En voici 3 :
Boucle classique : Hanoi - Mai Chau - Son La - Dien Bien Phu ou Muong Lay - Tam Duong - Sapa
Hanoi - Lac Thac Ba - Ngia Lo - Mu Can Chai - Sapa
Hanoi - Thac Ba - Hoang Su Phi - Bac Ha - Sapa
Beaucoup mettent la moto dans le train pour le retour. Dommage la route est sublime.
N hesites a m ecrire en MP pour d autres infos.
Bonne route
Pour l'avoir faite il n'y a pas si longtemps (Hanoi - Lao Cai - Sapa) je peux confirmer que la route est bonne. Elle a ete refaite contrairement a il y a 4 ans...
Belle route goudronnee sauf a quelques endroits (500m de gravillons a environ 30/40kms de l'intersection pour Bac Ha et en direction de Hanoi.)
Le probleme est au niveau de Hanoi/Viet Tri ou c'est un joyeux bazar : invasion de motos partout.
Sinon il y a l'option via DBP, Son La et le reste : jusque Hoa Binh c'est peu interessant (sauf l'endroit ou il y a les pains de sucre et c'est tres beau.) Le reste c'est une excellente route passe Hoa Binh et cela jusque Son La. Apres il y a de nombreux travaux jusque Muong Lay et en particulier aux abords de DBP.
Splendides paysages cependant a ne pas rater.
Belle route goudronnee sauf a quelques endroits (500m de gravillons a environ 30/40kms de l'intersection pour Bac Ha et en direction de Hanoi.)
Le probleme est au niveau de Hanoi/Viet Tri ou c'est un joyeux bazar : invasion de motos partout.
Sinon il y a l'option via DBP, Son La et le reste : jusque Hoa Binh c'est peu interessant (sauf l'endroit ou il y a les pains de sucre et c'est tres beau.) Le reste c'est une excellente route passe Hoa Binh et cela jusque Son La. Apres il y a de nombreux travaux jusque Muong Lay et en particulier aux abords de DBP.
Splendides paysages cependant a ne pas rater.
Merci pour tous les conseils. C´est super! Sinon, ca fait combien de km entre Hanoi et Sapa et la route vous l´avez fait en combien de jours (combien de temps conseillez-vous)? Merci.
Un regard est dans tout pays un langage.
(George Herbert)
Il fait froid parce qu'on regarde là où il n'y a pas de chaleur.
(Alexandra David-Neel)
On compte pas en kilometre mais en heure de route. Et apres c est selon l etat des routes.
Hanoi Sapa peut etre fait en 1 a 5 jours voir plus selon la cadence de conduite et selon l itineraire.
Par exemple :
Hanoi - Vu Linh
Vu linh ou vous restez une journee a vous relaxer avec nos amis Dao au bord du lac Thac Ba
Vu Linh - Pan Hou village
Pan Hou village journee de marche ou plus dans a la decouverte des montagnes, plateaux, deserts de pierrailles, pains de sucre, larges vallees peuplees par les Tay aux villages cernees de lataniers...en fin de journee bains traditionnels a base de plantes et massage.
Pan Hou village - Xin Man Le marche de Xin Man est un des plus beau du Nord
Xin Man - Sapa
6 jours, etourdissant.
Hanoi Sapa peut etre fait en 1 a 5 jours voir plus selon la cadence de conduite et selon l itineraire.
Par exemple :
Hanoi - Vu Linh
Vu linh ou vous restez une journee a vous relaxer avec nos amis Dao au bord du lac Thac Ba
Vu Linh - Pan Hou village
Pan Hou village journee de marche ou plus dans a la decouverte des montagnes, plateaux, deserts de pierrailles, pains de sucre, larges vallees peuplees par les Tay aux villages cernees de lataniers...en fin de journee bains traditionnels a base de plantes et massage.
Pan Hou village - Xin Man Le marche de Xin Man est un des plus beau du Nord
Xin Man - Sapa
6 jours, etourdissant.
Bonjour à tous,
je me permet de "squatter" un peu le topic. En effet, je prépare avec ma femme un ptit trip de 2 semaines au Vietnam.
On aimerait également faire le trajet en moto mais j'ai d'autres questions (Nous partons en Novembre).
1) Est-ce qu'il vaut mieux reserver à l'avance les hotels ? J'ai cru comprendre que Novembre était la période la plus fréquentée dans le Nord. La réservation ne me pose pas de problème en elle même mais vu que nous ne savons pas exactement "jour par jour" où nous serons nous nous posons cette question.
2) Par ailleurs, avez-vous des conseils d'hotels/auberge sur les différents lieux ?
3) Est-il difficile de se repérer sur les routes ? Un GPS vous semble-t-il nécessaire ?
4) Concernant les bagages, nous avons prévu de partir avec des sacs à dos de randonnées de 60L. Comment faire pour les transportés avec nous ?
5) Ma femme a quelques notions de conduites mais j'ai cru comprendre que la route n'etait pas de tout repos. Est-ce accessible aux débutants ?
6) Nous souhaitons également faire un trek à Sapa ou Bac Ha. Peut-on facilement trouver un guide sur place ?
7) Dernière question, est-ce interessant de faire confiance aux guides qui proposent les tours ? (Bourlingue, GP Travel, etc.) Ou est-ce que cela se fait facilement tout seul ?
Merci d'avance. Victor
je me permet de "squatter" un peu le topic. En effet, je prépare avec ma femme un ptit trip de 2 semaines au Vietnam.
On aimerait également faire le trajet en moto mais j'ai d'autres questions (Nous partons en Novembre).
1) Est-ce qu'il vaut mieux reserver à l'avance les hotels ? J'ai cru comprendre que Novembre était la période la plus fréquentée dans le Nord. La réservation ne me pose pas de problème en elle même mais vu que nous ne savons pas exactement "jour par jour" où nous serons nous nous posons cette question.
2) Par ailleurs, avez-vous des conseils d'hotels/auberge sur les différents lieux ?
3) Est-il difficile de se repérer sur les routes ? Un GPS vous semble-t-il nécessaire ?
4) Concernant les bagages, nous avons prévu de partir avec des sacs à dos de randonnées de 60L. Comment faire pour les transportés avec nous ?
5) Ma femme a quelques notions de conduites mais j'ai cru comprendre que la route n'etait pas de tout repos. Est-ce accessible aux débutants ?
6) Nous souhaitons également faire un trek à Sapa ou Bac Ha. Peut-on facilement trouver un guide sur place ?
7) Dernière question, est-ce interessant de faire confiance aux guides qui proposent les tours ? (Bourlingue, GP Travel, etc.) Ou est-ce que cela se fait facilement tout seul ?
Merci d'avance. Victor
bonjour!
je me permet une petite incursion ! je prepare une voyage au vietnam, et je lis dans un certain guide!!, qu il est obligatoire d etre acompagné d un guide local pour visiter les villages autour de sapa et lao cai! ne peut on pas louer une moto et se balader librement??
merci
cordialement
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Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
Hi there,
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
Hi everyone,
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!
Hi there!
I’m currently planning a 9-day route starting from Marrakech with my husband. We land on the morning of June 13th—so soon! 😊
And we’re flying back to France on June 21st at 9 PM!
We’ve rented two Royal Enfield 450s.
This is our first motorcycle trip in Morocco. I got my license two years ago with the dream of taking this kind of trip, and here we are! ✌️😍
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!