Salut les forumistes!!
Voila je viens d'acquérir un Gps Garmin Etrex legend Hcx pour un voyage en moto au maroc. Je me demandais ce que vaut le nouveau topo maroc. Est-ce qu'il suffit pour tracer son parcours?
Les pistes sont elles répertoriées?
Voila voila, j'espère que qq'un l'aura testé et pourra en dire plus!
Je ne connais pas la nouvelle version du topo maroc, mais l'ancienne permet de se situer sans problème sur le terrain. Les pistes principales sont indiquées ainsi que les reliefs avec courbes de niveaux ( faible définition mais correct tout de même).
Ci-joint une copie d'écran Mapsource de la piste entre taouz et Zagora , au niveau des villages de tafraout et d'er Remlia. On distingue la piste principale ainsi que la passe permettant l'accés à l'auberge Marech.
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Bonjour Perju,
En premier lieu merci de votre réponse rapide, je vois effectivement le type de cartes fournie, j'imagine alors que la "nouveauté" fera au moins aussi bien.
Au risque d'être un peu lourd et de passer pour un naze broc😛 du guidage je me demandais, une fois le topo installer sur le pc, si on pouvait tracer au fur et a mesure sa route, la télécharger sur le gps et se laisser "guider" comme sur un Gps voiture?
Il est vrai que la question d'achetter un topo se présente pour moi comme une obligation car je trouve que le logiciel fourni avec l'etrex (mapsource) n'est vraiment pas précis, pour ainsi dire il ne sert a rien...a moins que je n'ai pas tout compris....
Voilà, toujours preneur de bons conseils!! Merci par avance, Vincent!
Hello à tous.
J'ai aussi acheté le topo maroc.
L'avantage de cette carto c'est qu'elle est à jour, avec tous les restaurants, les stations services, garages, hôpitaux, postes etc...etc.. et une bonne majorité des PISTES et que vous pourrez par la suite acheter les mises à jour sur le site Garmin.
Que vous soyez en moto, en 4x4 cette topo est trés utile.
Installée sur garmin elle vous permet de faire vos itinéraires avec Mapsource (trés bon logiciel mais qui demande un temsp de prise en main) ou Base Camp et de les enregistrer sur votre gps.
Je suis en train de préparer un voyage de 4500 kms en moto au Maroc en mai, avec ça je me régale...
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Pascal
اجعل من حياتك حلماً ومن الحلم واقع - "Voyager ajoute à ta vie"
bonsoir,
avec mapsource on peut tracer des routes et les envoyer au gps. Par contre celui-ci ne fonctionne pas comme un gps de route, il se contente de donner la direction du point suivant sous la forme d'un guidage "style" boussole. Par contre on peut suivre en direct son déplacement sur les cartes chargées dans le gps.
En principe le fond de carte fourni avec le gps est trés réduit et ne donne aucune infos sur le relief ni les pistes.
Le fond de carte envoyé avec ma première réponse provient d'une donnée Garmin téléchargeable sur le site ci-dessous.
http://www.island-olaf.de/travel/marokko/gps.html
Une fois marokko topo chargé, il suffit d'ouvrir le fichier compressé et il s'installe tout seul sur Mapsource. Bien évidement il faut ensuite le transférer sur le gps.
L'avantage de ce site étant la gratuité des renseignements.
Bonne préparation.
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Hello,
j'aimerai acheté le Topo Maroc mais 150 roro ça douille quand même.
Mais avant de me décider, peux tu me faire une copie d'écran ou deux pour avoir un aperçu de la définition de la carte?
Ce serait trop sympa....
En fait je veux savoir si la définition est correcte pour utilisation trekking/alpinisme.
Merci!!!
Nakaora
OK
je te ferais ça ce week-end.
Quand au topo il douille mais il est vachement bien. Avec stations essance à jour, principales pistes, relief, etc...
cdt
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Pascal
اجعل من حياتك حلماً ومن الحلم واقع - "Voyager ajoute à ta vie"
Salut nakaora, je viens de recevoir le topo garmin, j'ai juste eu le tps de l'installer sur le pc, je te donnerai une impression dès que j'aurai pigé le fonctionnement sur mapsource.
Désolé pour le yps de mise en ligne!!!
Voila donc quelques impressions du topo en question (l'échelle est variable selon les photos).
Les pistes sont bien répertoriées et il est très facile de progrmmer un tracer.
slt
Pas la peine d'acheter, ça existe gratuit là http://www.island-olaf.de/travel/marokko/gps.html
et en toute légalité, cette carte est une compilation des traces effectuées et mises à disposition par les internautes
Slt
Pour moi le GPS est une aide mais c'est moi qui fait la route,
C'est déjà d'une grande facilité si en plus on se fait prendre par la main, il n'y a plus d'aventure, faut laisser un peu de place à l'imprévu
Bonjour,
est-ce que quelqu'un a déja testé cette carte Topo Maroc sur un ZUMO (550 ds mon cas mais je pense que tout les Zumo sont paraeil du point de vue des format supportés) ?
je relance ce poste, je pars en voiture pour le maroc en octobre avec deux autres équipages. Je viens d'acheter un GPS garmin etrex vista cx et je recherche une carto pour le maroc. Question bete, la topo maroc garmin possède t'elle en plus des pistes et des points d'interets, l'ensemble des routes?
J'hesite en faite a acheter le topo maroc ou le city navigator de garmin.
Merci par avance pour vos reponses et a bientot sur les pistes.
J'ai fait pas mal de piste cet été au Maroc et j'ai chargé la carte topo gratuite dont le lien est donné dans un post un peu plus haut et que j'ai installée sur un garmin "route" (nuvi 1490).
La quasi totalité des pistes et routes empruntées y figuraient. Mais cette carte n'est pas "routable" : elle ne donne pas le chemin. Il faut donc avoir un oeil sur le GPS et un oeil sur la route quand tu arrives à une bifurcation.
Lorsque que les pistes n'y figuraient pas, il te suffit d'un peu d'habitude en "zoomant" et "dézoomant" sur la carte pour te reperer (même si parfois j'ai du faire demi-tour😛)
Salut tout le monde, concernant le topo que j'avais acheté en 2010 pour notre voyage, il ne faut pas s'attendre a avoir une carte détaillée. Honnêtement, je le trouve quasi inutile et pourtant nous avons fais pas mal de pistes. Finalement on en revenait toujours à la même technique.
1) Discussion avec les tenanciers des auberges, camping, habitants concernant telle ou telle direction.
2) Étude comparative de deux cartes Michelin et surtout Marco polo (qui est vraiment très bien).
Voila, après on se paumait un peu mais jamais au point de déclencher balises et autres sos.
Si vous ne savait pas vous servir d'une boussole le GPS peut aider à choisir entre une direction ou une autre.
Ceci est mon retour d’expérience il n'engage que moi. Si jamais vous avez besoin d'infos sur le pays et notre ressenti je reste à disposition et avec un grand plaisir.
merci pour vos deux réponses. visiblement une bonne carte bien utilisé et mon petit gps avec la carto gratuite qu'on trouve sur internet suffisent. ca m'arrange car on organise un voyage a petit budget avec une bonne vieille peugeot 205.
Pas de routage possible avec la carto "free" mais les principales routes goudronées sont présentes si j'ai bien compris.
Le seul avantage que je voyais a la carto garmin, les points d'interets style stations carburants, ... mais il est vrai que de simples echanges avec les locaux peut marcher aussi bien.
Oui je n'avais pas vu cet aspect "mode recherche points d'intérêts", honnêtement il y a des stations d'essence de partout! Certes elles ne sont pas toute ravitaillées comme on le souhaiterai mais avec un jerrican de secours aucun problème. Il y a bien plus de stations qu'en france! Par contre je ne peux dire dans le grand sud Marocain, je n'y suis pas allé. Le plus bas fut Foum Zguid.
De plus sur le topo il n'y a pas tant de points d'intérêts que ça.
Hey everyone!
New to the forum, but not so new to Asia 😄
I’m Nico, from Switzerland, currently based in Bangkok. I love taking my motorcycle out to get lost in the mountains and small villages of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, and more. I’ve been roaming around this area for a good fifteen years now, racking up quite a few kilometers—especially in northern Vietnam.
This time, I finally decided to tackle the Mae Hong Son Loop, clockwise. I’d been to Pai several times before, but oddly enough, I’d never done the full loop.
So, I’ll try to give you a little recap here, day by day, with the roads, stops, places worth checking out… and those that didn’t quite blow my mind 😅
I also filmed the trip, so I’ll post the corresponding video at the end of each day if that’s okay. If it’s not allowed here, just let me know, and I’ll remove them without any issue.
DAY 1 — Chiang Mai → Doi Inthanon → Mae Chaem → Khun Yuam
I left Chiang Mai after renting a Honda ADV 160 from Pop Motorbike. Not exactly an Africa Twin, but for what I had planned, it was more than enough.
Quick hotel note: I stayed at the Lanna Thaphae Hotel before leaving. Around 30 € per night, super well-located, and probably one of the most comfortable beds I’ve ever slept in. A crucial detail for any motorcycle road trip, obviously.
The plan for the day was pretty straightforward:
Head toward Doi Inthanon… and see what happens.
Flawless Swiss organization.
First stop along the way at Wachirathan Waterfall. A really nice waterfall, very easy to access, but don’t expect to channel your inner Indiana Jones—it’s crowded, touristy, and swimming isn’t allowed. Still, it’s a pretty stop along the way.
Next, up to Doi Inthanon.
The road climbs steeply, and my little 160cc started to realize that carrying my 80 kg to Thailand’s highest point probably wasn’t part of its youthful dreams. I was maxing out at 34 km/h in some spots.
But it made it. Good little bike.
The summit is nice—the forest is beautiful, and it’s cool—but I have to admit, it didn’t completely wow me. Glad I went, but not necessarily the highlight of the day for me.
Because then comes Route 1192.
And that’s *much* more my thing: small mountain roads, beautiful scenery, hardly any traffic… the kind of road where I usually start taking way too many unnecessary detours just because a little side road “looks fun.”
Stopped in Mae Chaem for a bite to eat, then headed to Khun Yuam to finish the day.
A little over 200 km in total.
Khun Yuam is… quiet.
*Very* quiet. 😅
A cute little market, a couple of cafés/restaurants, and zero chance of ending up in a club until 4 AM. But after a day on the bike, it was perfect.
Stayed at the Mit Khun Yuam Hotel, around 20 € for a small but very decent room.
All in all, a solid first day and a pretty relaxed start to the loop. Part of this leg is mostly about getting out of Chiang Mai and really diving into the mountains, in my opinion.
Because for me, the really interesting stuff starts over the next two days…
And a few slightly questionable route decisions will also make an appearance 😅
If anyone’s planning the Mae Hong Son Loop, feel free to ask your questions—I’d be happy to answer!
I also filmed this first day, so for those who’d rather see the roads and landscapes than read my rambling, here’s Day 1 😊
DAY 1 VIDEO
I’ll post the next part in the coming days with Day 2: Khun Yuam → Mae Surin → Mae Hong Son.
And that’s where it starts getting *really* fun. 😉
That’s all for now! Looking forward to contributing as much as I can to the forum!
I’d like to ride from Mahajanga to Morondava, sticking as close to the coast as possible—using roads and tracks—in September 2026. If you’ve got any suggestions, let me know! 😉
hi
I’m planning a 10-month trip to South America, and I’m looking into options for shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea. If anyone has any info, thanks in advance!
christian
Hello everyone.
I'm looking for campsites around BOLZANO (South Tyrol) for early September.
I'll be on my motorcycle with a small tent.
I've noticed that some campsites have exorbitant prices.
If you've traveled through the Dolomites by motorcycle or otherwise and camped there, I'd love any tips on places and prices where I can stay for one night or several.
Thanks to all of you, and happy travels.
I’m starting to think about a trip that’s really close to my heart: Algeria by motorcycle, specifically the southern part of the country. It’d be for January 2025, and I’ve got two main questions:
Is it possible for an individual on a motorcycle to travel freely, outside of any organized tour, or does the regulation require some kind of supervision in the Algerian Sahara region?
Is the Hoggar massif accessible by road or by (rideable) tracks?
Beyond the official recommendations, I’m really looking for your firsthand experiences.
Thanks so much for your answers, and sorry if my questions are a bit newbie!
I just realized I’ve been registered on VoyageForum since... March 28, 2012 😊. Yet, I’ve barely participated until now.
August 1, 2026, will mark a somewhat special milestone: 5 years on the road.
We left Switzerland on August 1, 2021 with a simple idea: let chance decide our direction. We placed a bottle of wine on a world map, spun it... and it chose our first destination.
A year later, when we arrived in Morocco, we faced a new choice: continue toward Africa or head to Asia. This time, a tarot card game made the decision. Since then, we’ve tried to keep this journey as open to the unexpected as possible.
Today, that adds up to about 120,000 km, 46 countries, and over 1,800 days on the road—mostly by motorcycle, but also by sailboat, train, bus, hitchhiking, or on foot when adventure calls.
Our guiding thread isn’t just the motorcycle, but service exchanges. Instead of simply passing through countries, we try to stop regularly to lend a hand to the people we meet. So far, that’s about 600 days of volunteering.
Over the years, we’ve:
renovated a house in Croatia
made earth bricks in the Moroccan desert
helped sail a boat through the Greek islands
looked after houses, dogs, horses, a camel... and lots of other animals
worked at a street art festival in Morocco
created videos for local associations and projects
worked the grape harvest on the Tibetan plateau
been accredited as "media" for the World Nomad Games in Central Asia
Some of the moments that have stuck with us the most include six months in China, a night spent on the Great Wall, the Pamir Highway, the Silk Road, three months in Taiwan, and the incredible encounters in the mountains of Central Asia.
We travel on Falkor, our lucky dragon—a 2014 BMW F800GS that’s been with us since the start and is starting to have some great stories of its own.
While we share our adventure on Instagram, Polarsteps, and YouTube, that’s not why we’re here. The forum’s rules about promotion are clear, and I totally get them. If I’m finally taking the time to write, it’s mostly because after five years on the road, I thought our experience might be useful to other travelers.
Happy to chat about:
preparing for a long motorcycle trip
visas and borders
the Silk Road and Central Asia
riding in China (with or without a motorcycle)
volunteering and service exchanges while traveling
gear, daily life on the road... or just the unexpected moments that make long-term travel so special
Looking forward to swapping stories and hearing about your adventures too! 😊 Greetings from Thailand, and happy to chat! ✌️
Hello, I’m retired and planning a roughly 3-week motorcycle trip (1200gs). The dates aren’t set in stone yet, and everything’s open to discussion—I’m pretty flexible with the planning.
hi
planning to ride through Rajasthan on a motorcycle in January 2027 and I’d love to hear about the road conditions.
I’ll be riding with a buddy on a Royal Enfield that I’ll rent in Delhi.
Thanks for your tips!
hi there
I’d like to ride the RN 12 by motorcycle in September.
I’d love to know the main challenges—I ride a 300cc and do enduro in France.
Thanks for your tips!
I’m planning a motorcycle road trip to Armenia and Georgia in September 2026 or May 2027. I’m looking for one or more riders (male or female) who’d like to explore these countries with me.
Along the way, we’ll visit Cappadocia, the capitals Yerevan, Tbilisi, Sofia, Skopje, and other cities—we can finalize the route and roadbook later.
This trip requires experience with long motorcycle journeys, as we’ll cover around 7,000 km over 5 or 6 weeks (or more, depending on sightseeing and time spent).
I don’t expect dozens of applicants, since motorcycle riders are few and far between on this forum, but I’m putting this out there anyway.
Hi, I’d like to take a 15-day "break" to get away from the surrounding hustle and bustle.
Why not explore the Peloponnese!
I’m not particularly drawn to museums, ruins, or monuments.
I want to experience local life—small villages, seaside spots, beaches, and the interior if the landscapes are extraordinary.
Ideally, coming from Athens, I’d take a bus or train to get as close as possible to a starting point, then rent a scooter (125cc) to explore by taking secondary roads or even coastal paths. I’d stay in 2-3 places for a few days each to discover their surroundings.
Do a loop.
What do you think would be the ideal itinerary?
From Athens, the best option would be to take either a flight or a bus to Kalamata. Rent a scooter and head either west or east. Is there a tertiary road (very lightly trafficked) or a path where I can ride slowly, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery without being bothered by traffic? I’d like to go all the way to Monemvasia, still hugging the coast. I need to find a way to avoid returning to Kalamata to drop off the scooter and catch a flight—maybe a small town where the train stops so I can head back to Athens.
Thanks in advance for your tips.
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Hi there,
I’m planning a sidecar trip to South America for 4 or 5 months at the end of this year.
I’m looking for info on shipping my vehicle by sea—possibly to Uruguay or another destination, as I haven’t finalized anything yet.
How do you get visas for the countries I’ll be crossing: Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile? Are they e-Visas, obtained at the border, or through embassies?
Where can I get vehicle insurance?
Lastly, if any bikers want to join us (my partner and me), we’re open to that possibility too.
Patrick
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike.
Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering:
Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*?
Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike).
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a used small motorcycle to travel around the country for a month and a half.
I've done this in other countries without putting the registration in my name—is that possible in Guinea given the apparently frequent checks, or do I have to go through the paperwork?
Thanks.
Hello,
My dream is to ride Route 66 by motorcycle. I have a disability—while I’m not in a wheelchair, my walking mobility is reduced.
The ideal scenario would be to have a motorcycle driver and ride as their passenger on an organized trip.
Are there any guides or services like this offered by travel agencies?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Hello,
I’ve got a plan with a friend to go on a motorcycle road trip in 2028 or 2029, starting in Santiago de Chile and ending in Ushuaia, for about a month.
Has anyone done a trip like this before, and what’s the best time of year?
I’ve heard there can be quite a bit of wind depending on the season.
Thanks for any tips!
Cheers,
PA
I'm seriously considering heading to Nepal to do some nice motorcycle loops... my goal is also to do the Kailash Yatra round trip from Kathmandu, in a small group with a guide, in May '26... but here's the thing—I'm solo! So if you're up for sharing a similar adventure, hit me up... Cheers, Frankoys
It's all in the title: I'm heading to Krabi soon and want to rent a scooter for a few weeks, but after reading comments about all kinds of scams, I'm reaching out to ask where and how (read: *the right way*) to rent one.
Thanks for your tips and advice.
Hello everyone! Like every year, a winter migration is on the horizon (revised plan): this time, it’ll be Dakar, or even Abidjan, via Morocco, Mauritania, and Senegal.
Looking for an experienced motorcyclist or pillion rider—small build preferred—on a GSA 1250 with a comfy seat and luggage setup, available from early November to late December 2025. I’d like to plan the trip together (important to me) to make sure we’re on the same wavelength.
Don’t hesitate to get in touch!
Didier
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars.
We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month.
We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎
We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice?
I understand we need to book online rather than on-site.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!