Prolongation: camping sauvage à Taghazout
by Bubute
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Voiçi les dernières infos:Je suis de retour au Maroc depuis 1 mois.Taghazout, c'est fini, ils ont fait une tranchée tout le long du site, on ne peux plus y acceder et c'est tant mieux....ceux qui allaient là pour "ne pas payer de camping"seront bien obligés d'aller dans les campings sinon ils restent chez eux!!!non seulement la vie est bon marché içi, mais en plus ils veulent faire des économies sur l'hébergement...lamentable !!!2em.info:pour la prolongation de séjour au dela des 3 mois en plus, des formalitées habituelles, il faut ouvrir un compte dans une banque marocaine sinon walou.
Bonne année à tous inch allah 😎😎😎
Bubute tu dois être un trés vieux, a lire ton message. 1ér) on payais a Tarazoute. 2ém.)les casettes que l'on vidais dans des trous, et bien elles rejoignaient celle que le village a coté déverssait dans des puis perdus.3ém) t'est tu posé la question combiens de gens avons nous fais vivre????Je te précise quand même que ce n'étais pas du tout ma destination, mais j'aimai bien 3ou4 jours en remontant de ?????? tu ne le saura pas de peur de t'y retrouver.En bon entendeur, salut.
ADVDB
D'accord avec toi mais les Marrocains ont ils mit quelque chose en place pour remplacer ce probleme de camping sauvage!!!! sinon le probleme est déplacé!!!! Le camping d'Agadir est plein et particulierement déguellasse!!!! l'hiver donc camarade camping cariste et autre démerdez vous mais venez au Maroc quand meme dépenser votre bon argent😉 et a ma connaissance a part un camping a 20km au nord d'Agadir il n'y a rien!!!🙁 Les gens qui stationnaient a Taghazout faisaient fonctionner le commerce local restaurants, marchés, sovenirs et tout!!!!! donc camarade Bubute cree un camping a Agadir en bordure de la mer tu vas gagner de la Tune!!!!!!!😕
babars83
Votre facon de considérer le camping semi sauvage de taghazout ne concerne que votre conscience. Lorsque la proximité de quelques 500 véhicules dans les mois 01/02/03 sur l'aire de stockage autorisent toutes les derives il n'est pas necessaire de se voiler la face en disant nous les faisons vivre....on pourrait faire mieux dans de meilleurs conditions.Le camping d'Agadir est ni pire ni mieux que d'autres sauf que les campingcaristes se reservent leurs emplacements privilégiés!!!
Faux, et archi faux camarade les campingcaristes veulent sortir avec leurs camoins donc il n'y a aucune reservation possible mais les italiens arrivent en novembre et decembre et prennent les places Le camping d'Agadir est dans un état lamentable les rats sortentent par les trous des toilettes!!! je les ai vus!!!
Mais entierement d"accord avec toi pour suprimer ce camping sauvage mais je crois que les marrocains doivent le remplacer par quelque chose!!!! qui les fassent vivre et procure quelques emplois (et c'est dans ce sens qu'il faut interpreter mon intervention😉" et ne doivent pas laisser ces gens dans la nature car le probleme va etre multiplié🙂 et j'aime le Maroc et les Marrocains j'y ai des amis depuis + de 30 ans!!
babars83
Cette verrue est enfin éradiquée! j'y crois à peine !
Ne faites surtout rien pour qu'elle repousse un peu plus loin, sur les plages du sud par exemple, il y a déja des petites colonies. Quand à l'alibi de faire marcher le petit commerce local, et surtout les restos ne nous faites pas pleurer, surtout ceux qui ont empilé les conserves et le pastis pour descendre et ceux qui ne font leurs courses qu'à marjane. Le camping car est un outil fabuleux, et à cause d'un certain nombre d'inconscients, et d'inciviques, les interdictions pleuvent au détriment de la majorité des respectueux.
Ne faites surtout rien pour qu'elle repousse un peu plus loin, sur les plages du sud par exemple, il y a déja des petites colonies. Quand à l'alibi de faire marcher le petit commerce local, et surtout les restos ne nous faites pas pleurer, surtout ceux qui ont empilé les conserves et le pastis pour descendre et ceux qui ne font leurs courses qu'à marjane. Le camping car est un outil fabuleux, et à cause d'un certain nombre d'inconscients, et d'inciviques, les interdictions pleuvent au détriment de la majorité des respectueux.
Bravo. Je vois que vous êtes tous conscient duproblême TAGHAZOUT.Pour l'éradiquer UNE SOLUTION: ne pas allez tous au même endroit. Qui a -t-il à faire ou voir dans cette ville la plus européenne du maroc à part ce que beaucoup ne trouvent pas dans certains endroits merveilleux ou on retrouve l'hospitalité marocaine..
vous etes bien severe avec les, campings caristes, car c, est quelque fois des couples jeunes ou des retraites qui se sont endéttés pour acheter leur c.c mais qui aumoins font quand meme marcher le commerce local et tout les campings caristes ne sont pas des crados
Bubute tu dois être un trés vieux, a lire ton message. 1ér) on payais a Tarazoute. 2ém.)les casettes que l'on vidais dans des trous, et bien elles rejoignaient celle que le village a coté déverssait dans des puis perdus.3ém) t'est tu posé la question combiens de gens avons nous fais vivre????Je te précise quand même que ce n'étais pas du tout ma destination, mais j'aimai bien 3ou4 jours en remontant de ?????? tu ne le saura pas de peur de t'y retrouver.En bon entendeur, salut.
indigne ta réponse c'est quoi ce rascisme anti vieux je vois que comme beaucoup de soi disant voyageur, tu ne connais rien du Maroc, vous ne faisiez vivre que la mafia locale, sais tu seulement comment fonctionne le droit des vendeurs ambulants sur ce secteur, ils devaient obligatoirement reverser une bonne partie de leurs recettes à la nomenclatura locale sous peine de se faire tabasser, et ils ne restaient presque rien, vous aviez en somme fait revivre l'esclavage pour votre seule satisfaction d'européen nanti tu as bien fait de ne pas nous dire ou tu allais je suis sur que c'est une autre verrue un peu plus bas et j'aurais moi aussi trop peur de te rencontrer le maroc est un pays merveilleux et tu devrais essayer de faire en sorte que les habitants puissent améliorer leur vie grace à toi bonne journée milou bravo bubute pour ton info et surtout ne change rien à ta façon de faire c'est la bonne
indigne ta réponse c'est quoi ce rascisme anti vieux je vois que comme beaucoup de soi disant voyageur, tu ne connais rien du Maroc, vous ne faisiez vivre que la mafia locale, sais tu seulement comment fonctionne le droit des vendeurs ambulants sur ce secteur, ils devaient obligatoirement reverser une bonne partie de leurs recettes à la nomenclatura locale sous peine de se faire tabasser, et ils ne restaient presque rien, vous aviez en somme fait revivre l'esclavage pour votre seule satisfaction d'européen nanti tu as bien fait de ne pas nous dire ou tu allais je suis sur que c'est une autre verrue un peu plus bas et j'aurais moi aussi trop peur de te rencontrer le maroc est un pays merveilleux et tu devrais essayer de faire en sorte que les habitants puissent améliorer leur vie grace à toi bonne journée milou bravo bubute pour ton info et surtout ne change rien à ta façon de faire c'est la bonne
bonjour à tous
le Maroc est immense il fait plus de 2000 KMS de long (deux fois la france)
alors pourquoi diable résumé ce pays au seul agadir je suis d'ailleurs d'accord avec ce qu'a dit quelqu'un, c'est affreux, une ville européenne sans cachet ou l'on parle beaucoup plus allemand que marocain
alors que tout le maroc est super beau, accueillant, et tellement attrayant
mais c'est connu les beaufs aiment se rassembler et cultiver le communautérisme ou le seul but de la journée, c'est l'apéro
les marocains que vous "faites travailler" cela ressemble beaucoup à un relan de colonnialisme des boys pour les poubelles, pour la bouteille de gaz, pour les vidanges etc...
excusez ma réaction, elle est épidermique, je respecte votre choix mais de grace n'en faites pas une réclame, on en voit déjà assez sur france 2 et les autres
et surtout bon voyage
amicalement
milou
bonjour
il y a plus de 180 campings au Maroc, répertoriés dans un guide "campings du Maroc" je sais c'est payant et vous ne voulez que du gratuit, désolé!!!
dons vous avez le choix pour stationner en plus le prix est souvent bien moins cher que nos aires de CC en france et on vous donne tous les services pour ce prix, et surtout ca permet la, vraiment, de faire vivre l'habitant, et de lui permettre d'améliorer ses structures et ainsi de mieux vous recevoir
le fait de nous dire que certains se sont endettés pour acheter leur CC n'a aucun sens ici ou le salaire moyen est d'a peine plus d'une centaine d'euros par mois et ou plus de la moitié des habitants ont à peine 1 euros par jour pour vivre
mettez vos mentalités d'européens nantis au placard, vous êtes en Afrique et surtout pas chez vous, non vous êtes chez eux, remerciez les de vous accueillir
bonne journée
à tous
milou
Bonjour. Est ce quelqu'un pourait me dire si il y a une autre route que le "col du TICHKA" pour passer l'"Atlas" en camping car, et regagner le sud, sans passer par "Midelt / Errachidia". De Marakech a Ouarzazate par exemple.Merci
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Désolé te te contredire Babar quand tu dis qu'a part le camp.d'Agadir il n'y a rien dans le coin...Moi je suis au camping de Tiznit et ce pour la 7em.année et j'en suis enchanté;J'y retrouve tous les copains des années passées, l'ambiance est super sympa, entre francais et italiens et de plusTiznit est une ville AUTHENTIQUE contrairement a Agadir qui n'est qu'un rassemblement de touristes dans les hotels.cette année le tarif du camping a augmenté il est de 1500 dh.pour le mois mais on a toutes les commoditées sur place et c'est appréciable:Le camp/sauvage c'est bien mais seulement 2 ou 3 jours sinon ça craint pour les douches, l'eau l'electricité etc...comment faites-vous ?
Tizinit ce n'est pas Agadir de toute maniere je ne m'arrete a Agadir 1 ou2 jours en revenant d'Afrique pour acheter du poisson au port alors tu sais je ne passerais pas 15 jour a Agadir donc pour moi je m'en fous mafia ou pas je passe et nous sommes toujours bien accueillit par nos amis marrocains depuis 30 ans !!! Caravanier me fait rigoler!!!!! allez a +
babars83
Bonjour. Est ce quelqu'un pourait me dire si il y a une autre route que le "col du TICHKA" pour passer l'"Atlas" en camping car, et regagner le sud, sans passer par "Midelt / Errachidia". De Marakech a Ouarzazate par exemple.Merci
bojour excuse moi je ne comprends pas très bien ta question tu veux aller ou exactement et en partant de ou ?? la route de marrakech à ouarzazate passe par le tchika bonne journée caravanier
bojour excuse moi je ne comprends pas très bien ta question tu veux aller ou exactement et en partant de ou ?? la route de marrakech à ouarzazate passe par le tchika bonne journée caravanier
bonjour
ca, me fait toujours plaisir quand je fais rigoler quelqu'un
au moins j'ai déjà réussi ca dans ma journée
tu as raison Tiznit ce n'est pas Agadir
c'est une ville super qui sait très bien nous accueillir et qui depuis toujours reste à notre écoute pous apporter le meilleur service possible (faut pas rever non plus on est au Maroc)
bonne journée
à tous
milou
Et zut allors!!! On va aller oû maintenent, et tout les copains " appéro", on ne pourra plus boire!!! Marjane va fermer!!! à cause de ??? donc encore du chômage en +, nos pauvres amis marocains n'avaient pas besoin de ça . Bon, je plaisantais. On va se retrouver début Janvier et prendre une décision . On pourrait monter une SARL et acheter un terrain, si vous êtes d'accord ? RV début Janvier devant l'hotel FRAM . Amis Camping Cariste serrons nous les coudes.
je constate que taghazout fait beaucoup parlé.J'habite au maroc et je suis scandalisé que vous défendiez ce parking qui n'a rien à voir avec une aire pour campingcariste sérieux. Comment pouvez vous vivre dans une telle promiscuité et n'offre pour tout intéret que la facilité de trouver de l'alcool et de ne payer qu'une faible participation à des mafieux. Quand on se promène dans des vehicules qui coutent plusieurs milliers d'Euros il est possible de trouver des places de campings dans des villes beaucoup plus interessantes et typiques qu'Agadir😠
Le camping de Tizinit est a ma connaissance un camping ou les camping caristes restent 1 mois ou plus!!! arretez moi si je me trompe, et la on retrouve les buveurs de pastis cher a notre ami caravanier!!!! joueurs de boules et il y a les meme qu'a Taghazout!!!! et je crois ou j'ai entendu parler que l'on acceptais pas tout le monde? J'attends les adresses de camping a Agadir? a part celui au nord a coté du port il n'y en a pas d'autre.....; bonnes fetes amigos
babars83
Bonjour. Au sujet d'un éventuel pasage de l'Atlas Nord/sud en évitant le Tichka( Mare d'y passer la haut)On m'a parlé d'une nouvelle route qui partirais a l'est de Marrakech, sur la route de beni-Mellal, et qui rejoindrait le Dades plus précisément la route de Er-Rachidia a Ouarzazate.Et ce que quelqu'un pourait me renseigner?? Merci
ADVDB
Il existe une nouvelle route goudronnée, entre Demnate et un chouia après Ouarzazate par Assermo.
Elle n'a pas le gabarit de la P31 par le Tichka, elle est très sinueuse, et comme elle est obligée de franchir le massif du M'Goun, elle grimpe. et comme elle est taillée dans la falaise, attention aux capucines!
Je ne la recommanderais pas au dela d'un profilé moyen.
😉Merci "Raoulx". Y ete vous déja passé. J'ai un Notin intégral, 2m80 de haut sur Mercedes donc qui a un bon rayon de bracage.Merci
ADVDB
Merci "Raoulx". Je ne prendrai pas de risque, et si je me decide de passer par là, j'me renseignerai a la gendarmerie.Joyeux NOËL et @+
ADVDB
Bonnes fêtes à toi aussi et à toute la communauté VF.
je doute qu'une gendarmerie puisse répondre à ta question, un gendarme ne connait que son village, son troncon de route ou le carrefour auquel il est affecté, le gabarit des Cc les concerne peu!
Moi je m'engagerais au risque de mettre 4 heures au lieu de 3, c'est simplement plus d'attention!
je doute qu'une gendarmerie puisse répondre à ta question, un gendarme ne connait que son village, son troncon de route ou le carrefour auquel il est affecté, le gabarit des Cc les concerne peu!
Moi je m'engagerais au risque de mettre 4 heures au lieu de 3, c'est simplement plus d'attention!
Joyeuse fetes a tous ..et bon voyage au Maroc
Ce sera en fevrier maintenant pour moi une petite semaine aux alentours de Marrakech !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A bientot
thierry
Ce sera en fevrier maintenant pour moi une petite semaine aux alentours de Marrakech !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thierry
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Espérons que la masse agglutinée à Taghazout ne va pas se déplacer vers des coins plus tranquilles et encore authentiques . La charte du camping-cariste ne doit pas être leur lecture de chevet donc il est urgent que les autorités marocaines mais aussi les consulats concernés trouvent des solutions pour éviter que la verrue ne repousse ailleurs. On a vu à la TV un membre du consulat de France se déplacer à Taghazout pour rencontrer les camping caristes ça ne semblait pas être pour les inciter à trouver d'autres solutions... Est-ce une tranchée qui va régler le problème? D'autant que c'est vraisemblablement pour un projet privé de bétonnage de la côte et non pour interdire le camping sauvage. Inch Allah, nous verrons bien. 😮
merçi pour ta réponse, actuellement nous sommes à Tiznit au camping, les c/cars commencent a arriver en nombre après les fetes de fin d'année...toujours du beau temps, 26 a 28° ça baigne!!!bonne et heureuse année;Bubute
bonjour je desirerai savoir les prix du camping de taghazoute s'il vous plait. Merci d'avance si vous pouviez me repondre sur mon mail ; oleronsurf2@hotmail.fr. ludovic
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!