Je recherche des infos concernant cette vallée au Maroc. Je souhaite surtout savoir si elle est accessible même quand on n'est pas motorisé et d'où il faut partir.
Quelles sont les possibilitées de logement?
Je cherche bien sur à y aller pour randonner. Est il possible d'y randonner (à la journée ou sur plusieurs jours) seul ou faut il un guide?
Bref toute info pour un routard qui ne cherche pas vraiment les hotels climatisés😉
dans quelle partie du maroc se trouvent les vallées qui t'intéressent ?
j'ai eu pour ma part l'occasion de faire un tour à mahmid, sud est après tagounite en venant de ouarzazate, c'est superbe et l'accueil y est chaleureux. Tu me diras, au maroc, ça n'st pas rare.
Elles sont dans le Haut Atlas, mais bien plus au nord du Toubkal. Mon problème est qu'à ce moment je serai non motorisé et ces vallées semblent assez isolées. En plus c'est une zone de montagne et j'ai de fortes chances d'y trouver la neige.
Le coin dont tu me parles semble se trouver aux portes du desert dans a vallée du Drâa. D'après ce que j'en ai lu, le coin à l'air superbe et j'espère pouvoir y aller. Je vais également faire le Sud, mais plus tard, en plus à ce moment je serai normalement motorisé.
En fait c'est mon premier voyage au Maroc (même le premier hors de l'Europe) et j'aimerai savoir à quoi je dois m'attendre question hébergement. Toi qui semble avoir fait le sud, peut on loger chez l'habitant ou faut-il prendre une chambre d'hotel? prendre une tente serait il judicieux? quel budget faut-il prévoir?
Si toi ou d'autres peuvent me donner leur avis sur le sujet je suis preneur. En plus cela ne se limite pas seulement au sud. Je pars 5 semaines et je débarque à Tanger. Je pense donc bouger beaucoup même si je n'ai pas de programme (hormis 15 jours pour faire le sud).
Pour info je cherche pas d'adresses de club hotel mais plus des lieux plein de charme ou encore un acceuil sympa.
j'ai passé 5 semaines au maroc en septembre dernier en 4x4.
pour le budget en comptant le gasoil (la plus grosse partie avec le bateau à gibraltar), la bouffe et les acotés (certes pas bcp) on a depensé un peu plus de 7000f à 2.
Pour dormir chez l'habitant il n'y a aucun probleme. certain essaient de profiter de la situation, en cas de doute, il faut carrement se mettre d'accord dès le debut.
J'y repars pour plsrs mois dès que possible (j'espere pour la fin aout)
pour ce qui est de l'hébergement, tu trouveras partout des chambres dans des hôtels simples, même dans les endroits les plus inattendus. Le Maroc est un pays que l'on peut découvrir sans faire de plans d'hébergement à l'avance, il y aura toujours une personne pour te loger ou pour te mener près d'autres personnes que cela intéressera; à partir de 80 dirhams, voir moins, et bien sûr, jusqu'à 100, 120... quelquefois rien, juste la chaleur d'une rencontre .
il suffit de communiquer, aller vers ... cherche et tu trouveras...😉
dans la vallée du drâa, si tu descends jusqu'à tagounite, tu peux y aller en "grand taxi", collectif, d'une traite, bon marché - par exemple de ouarzazate à zagora, 45 dirhams l'aller. (4, 5 euros !) - ensuite, zagora à tagounite, toujours en grand taxi. Tu demandes la station des "grands taxis", c'est une bonne façon de voyager au M. avec les bus. Mieux.
A tagounite, le café l'oasis de la part de nadine - c'est moi - écoute, je ne peux pas faire de pub, mais si tu veux le plan, contacte-moi sur mon e-mail, si tu es intéressé. carravagia@yahoo.fr
de là pas trop de probleme pour te rendre dans la vallée des Aït Bouguemez (soit Grand Taxi, soit bus).
et dans la vallée elle même, pas de probleme non plus pour te loger. Tu trouveras soit des possibilités de logement chez l'habitant, soit des gites souvent tenus par des guides ou en relaton avec des guides. Si tu pars pour une rando, je suis plutôt pour un guide ou même un muletier si tu ne recherche pas l'exploit sportif. Un guide pour une journée te demandera entre 20 et 25 euros, un muletier 10 euros... plus bien entendu leur nourriture. Si tu pars plusieurs jours, ils te proposeront un forfait.
Quant à le neige.... tout depend de la saison à laquelle tu partiras. Si c'est cet automne, pas de crainte... par exemple, j'atais dans le massif du Toubkal en avril, il y avait de la neige mais en haute altitude. J'ai pu marché, (je ne suis pas allée au delà de 2800m pour cause d'enfant avec moi....) sans en rencontrer!
si tu pars en hiver par contre tu pourras envisager du ski de rando si tu es amateur...
voilà bon voyage, la région dans laquelle tu vas est magnifique, les couleurs sont incroyables!
j'ai déjà fait mon voyage (non: mon super voyage). Je n'ai pas vraiment randonné mais j'ai posé des jalons. Je sais maintenant comment m'y rendre: certainement grand taxi au départ d'Azilal. Je suis également fixé concernant le prix des guides (effectivement 20 € par jour) et muletier. Je n'ai plus "d'engoisses" concernant le logement.
Je prépare donc serainement mon voyage pour l'année prochaine en essayant de convaincre des amis de me suivre en leur montrant mes photos😛
je viens de lire ton message ! nous partons dans la vallée des Ait Bougmez d'ici 1 mois. Quels conseils pourrais-tu nous donner ? Qu'en est-il de l'hébergement ? peut-on partir "confiant" sans rien réserver ?
salam !!!
je reviens d'un voyage en vélo et entre autre cette superbe vallée "ait bouguemez", un petit coin de paradis.
niveau hébergement tu as des gîtes à 120 dirham demi pension (en gros 12€)
juin c'est la période creuse, pas grand monde, par contre juillet et août, il y a plus de monde. Je te conseille de réserver ton gîte.
bon vent, bonnes vacances
inch allah !!
piero
ait bouguemmaz est vallée heureuse qui se situe au Maroc à la provice d'azilal, cette vallée est parmi les lieus les plus visitées dans la provice d'Azilal. évidamment le tourise et l'agriculture constituent l'économie de cette vallée.concernat les logements des visiteurs il y a des gites d'étape et des hotéles qui offrent aux visiteurs des logents sécurisés, cette vallée permet aux de passer mements inobliable.
je vou informe que la vallée de ait bouguemmaz est ma région dans la quelle je passe ma vie, mais actuellement je suis à Marrakeche pour des raisons des études.
si vous voulez visiter cette vallée et vous ête à l'éxteriure du Maroc vous pouvez prendre l'avion vers Marrakeche puis le cascade d'ouzoud qui se considère aussi un lieu inobliable puis Azilal et vous arrivererez à la vallée heureuse.
concernat le guide j'ais des amis qu'ont obtenu des déplômes de centre de formation des guides montagnes qui existe aussi dans la vallée de ait bougummaz, c'est le seul au Maroc.
concernat les coûts de voyage sont très faibles si vous avez contacter un guide directement au lieu de contacter un agence de voyage
si vous avez besoins d'autres informations ou d'aide, vous pouvez tout simplement demander.
merci
Je connais très bien la vallée des Bouguemez, puisque j'y vais régulièrement depuis 20 ans. A l'époque, l'accès s'effectuait uniquement par camions sur les pistes et il n'y avait ni électricité, ni téléphone. Actuellement l'accès est beaucoup plus facile. plusieurs solutions : soit par bus depuis la gare routière de Marrakech, vers Azilal, puis ensuite prendre le camion mercedes qui va vers les Bouguemez (en partant vers 8h du matin, on arrive dans l'après midi) soit prendre un grand taxi (aussi depuis la gare routière de marrakech), attendre qu'il soit rempli (maximum 6 places), vers Azilal et là, prendre un 2ème grand taxi vers les Bouguemez.
Dans les Bouguemez, il existe de nombreux gites et bien sur, j'en connais plusieurs qui ont également une activité de guides (mais on ne peut pas faire la publicité sur ce forum !)
D'autre part, pour ceux qui sont intéressés par le tourisme solidaire, je peux vous informer des projets de développement que je mène dans la région avec les associations locales. Est-ce que je peux donner le site de notre association ?
Salut,
Vu que tu as l'air de bien connaitre la région j'ai une petite question:
Sais-tu s'il est possible de passer en voiture, de Agouti vers les Gorges du Dadès, car d'après ma carte il y a des passages nommés "sentiers".
Sais-tu aussi combien de temps faut-il accorder à cette région?
merci d'avance.
* ***** Sais-tu s'il est possible de passer en voiture, de Agouti vers les Gorges du Dadès, car d'après ma carte il y a des passages nommés "sentiers". ***
ce sont toujours des sentiers !
et vers le "dades", il ne doit pas y en avoir des tonnes !
plus pratique vers la vallée du m'goun, avec un bon mulet.
Combien de temps ..... c'est un peu toi qui voit , avec une bonne paire de chaussures et/ou un VTT, pour moi il n'y a pas de limite, les auberges sont sympas, les gens adorables.
merci!
C'est juste que je pensais éventuellement me rendre de Marrakech à la vallée d'Ait Bouguemez, en voiture de location. Puis éventuellement passer dans la vallée du dadès, mais j'ai l'impression que ce n'est pas trop faisable...
Bonsoir.
vous pouvez glaner des informations et voir des photos.objet de mon compte rendu du 23 juillet 2009:
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2761222;
D'après les renseignements obtenus hier, il fait très froid actuellement dans la vallée., s'équiper en conséquence.3 à 4 jours suffisent pour faire des balades dans cette vallée et la vallée voisine"ait boulli".Le souk de tabant se tient le dimanche.Bon trek
I'm looking for info on the route between Imilchil and Tabant is it a dirt track, and what condition is it in? Any paved roads? We ll have a 4x4. My GPS shows…
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.