je pars ac ma conjointe en septembre 2012 pour un minimum de 8 mois en Asie du sud/sud est!
nous comptons pour 2 avoir un budget de 12000€, ma première question: es-ce suffisant?
nous sommes au tout début de nos recherches, et nous sommes extrêmement motivé par se projet!!!
nous voulons faire l'inde, le nepal, la birmanie, la thailande le laos et cambodge!!!
nous savons que bangkok est la plaque tournante pour prendre un vol qui décernera les différents pays que l'on veut faire!
pour l'instant ma logique aurais tendance a faire:France-Thaïlande passer la frontière par la voie terrestre et ainsi traversé le Laos Cambodge!Du Cambodge prendre un vol pour Bangkok!!!ensuite Bangkok-Rangoon(Birmanie)!!!puis Rangoon-BangkokBangkok-Delhi une fois en inde passer la frontière népalaise par la voie terrestre et revenir en inde pour rentrer en France de Delhi!!!nous souhaitons réellement prendre notre tps et voyager🙂 au gré de nos envies en priviliégeant les transport locaux afin de se retrouver au plus proches des locaux
dites moi s'il vous plais si je suis utopique dans ma façon de penser ou si il faut tout simplement que je change mon itinéraire!!!
merci à vous mes amis routard pour vos réponses....
salut phalang85,
pour l'instant on est qu'a l'ébauche de notre projet, et il est vrai que notre priorité est de sectionner les pays que l'on veut visiter et de trouvé l'ordre dans laquelle il serait plus logique de les traversé!!!
dis moi ton ressentis et pourquoi tu trouve ça ambitieu: c'est le budget ou tu pense que pour réellement profiter de mon trip je devrais retirer certains pays????
Routardement, anthony
En fait, l'ordre de passage dans les pays depend de ce que vous voulez faire sur place...Tous les pays choisis (hors zones montagneuses) ont des climats qui sont supportables entre fin octobre et fin mars-debut avril...Bien sur, on peu y voyager toute l'année, mais ca gache un peu le plaisir...
Niveau climat, en septembre c'est encore un peu le sauna en asie du sud est...
Par contre, c'est la bonne période pour certaines regions montagneuses indiennes: uttaranchal, uttar pradesh, sikkim.
Le Nepal, ca commence a etre bon fin septembre.
Le mieux serrait peut etre de commencer par Delhi, car on peu trouver des vols vraimment pas chers: j'ai fait une fois un Delhi Paris pour...180 euros😎
Donc admettons : inde -> nepal par voie terrestre
Une fois le nepal fini, un petit katamandu -> Rangoon en avion, peut etre qu'air asia a une ligne, a verifier...
Autrement, mais je ne suis pas sur que ce soit possible, revenir en Inde et passer par un hypothetique poste frontiere pour aller en Birmanie. Pour le coup ca permettra de visiter des coins tres en dehors des sentier battus...
Une fois que vous etes en birmanie, plus besoin de prendre l'avion, vous passez par voie terrestre jusqu'au Laos.
En fonction de l'itineraire, ca peut etre sympa d'envisager l'achat de 2 motos 125 cc pour faire thailande cambodge laos, ca ne coute pas cher d'occase et ca se revend bien sans perdre beaucoup d'argent...Avoir son propre transport change la vie et permet de voyager differement...
Une fois l'asie du sud est ecumée, rien ne vous empeche de vous arreter un peu en inde, c'est sur le chemin du retour. Soit pour visiter les vallée avant la mousson (ca commence a devenir inssuportable en mai), soit pour aller au Ladak (entre mai et debut septembre)
12000 euros à 2 pour 8 mois pour les pays choisis...Si vous etes plutot langouste et resort avec piscine olympique, ca peut faire un peu juste...Soyez econome pendant la premiere moitié du voyage...Certains jours, le fric s'envole de vos poches sans que vous vous en rendiez compte...Une connerie, plus un petit machin, plus un autre, et tient on va prendre un taxi au lieu de marcher...Mais 6000 euros, c'est suffisant...
En comptant large, disons que l'hebergement + bouffe+ boissons vous pouvez compter 300 euros/mois/personne. Certains jours en fonction de l'endroit ca pourrais vous couter moins de 2 euros pour dormir et 3-4 euros pour manger, des fois bien plus, sans compter qu'au bout de plusieurs mois, on aime bien se vautrer dans un vrai bon plumard, ou se taper un vrai restau...
Pour les transports, on va dire une heure de bus= moins d'1 euro
Ensuite viennent s'ajouter toutes les activités payantes...
Sachez qu'en reservant au moins 1 mois a l'avance, c'est possible de payer des vols interieurs moins de 30 euros avec air asia...
Sinon, pour les billet internationnaux, voir ce site www.partirou.com
Si certains connaissent un moyen de trouver des billets toutes destination moins cher qu'avec ce moteur de recherche, je veux bien l'adresse...
salut kernours je prévois le meme circuit avec mon amie j ai fait un tour du monde en solo en 2008 et je retourne en asie en octobre on a exactement le meme budget que vous mais un ordre different paris mumbay puis Gujarat Rajasthan.... puis Calcutta Bangkok pour 140 euros ensuite bangkok birmanie en bus et train laos cambodge , rejoindre siam reap puis bus jusqu a bangkok puis malaisie puis indonesie.si tu veux garder le même itinéraire fait un Bangkok Calcutta puis sikim varanassi puis nepal en train jusqu a la frontiere puis bus jusqu a Katmandou ou pokara puis retour dans le kaos indien pour reprendre un avion a mumbay paris 400 euros je suis resté un an en asie donc si tu as des question n' hésite pas
je hais les voyages et les explorateurs .et voici que je m apprête a raconter mes expeditions (claude levi-strauss) tristes tropiques
je pars ac ma conjointe en septembre 2012 pour un minimum de 8 mois en Asie du sud/sud est!
nous comptons pour 2 avoir un budget de 12000€, ma première question: es-ce suffisant?
ça fait 24 E/j/pers, ça le fait ... mais faut être économe
Du Cambodge prendre un vol pour Bangkok!!!
revenez par voie terrestre en Thailande, c'est plus sympa
Par contre faudra gérer les visas : Laos, Cambodge, 1 mois ... Birmanie 28j mais possibilités de dépasser pour le prix de 3$/jour ... Thailande 1 mois en arrivant par avion, 15j par voie terrestre ... Inde 6 mois ... Népal, je ne sais pas.
En tout cas ça fait plaisir de voir des gens qui ont prévus de voyager cool 🙂
bon voyage
A moins d'un changement ces dernière semaines, contrairement à ce que quelqu'un te dit, il n'est pas possible d'entrer ou de sortir par la terre au Myanmar.
Niveau argent, c'est ok pour moi, largement. Mais bon, l'Asie vous pouvez ne rien dépenser ou dépenser des fortunes, ça dépend de votre façon de voyager.
Perso je commencerai par l'Inde, puis passage de la frontière au Népal, vol Katmandou-Bangkok. De là, faire Thaïlande-Laos-Cambodge (ou l'inverse, n'importe), de retour sur Bangkok vol jusqu'à Yangon. Le Myanmar reste mon gros coup de cœur en Asie, je pense que finir par là c'est le mieux.
Niveau temps: un mois pour chaque pays d'ASE, environ un mois et demi au Népal si vous faites un trek (indispensable selon moi) et le reste en Inde.
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Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Bonjour ,
nombreux conseils et avis trouvés sur le forum , c'est donc à mon tour de contribuer modestement .
Nous avons passé en famille un peu plus de 2 semaines avec comme programme Hanoi 5 jours
Baie d'Halong 3 jours et 2 nuits
Tam coc 3 jours
Mai Chau 2 jours
Sapa 3 jours
Vélos , scooters, grab et bus pour les déplacements.
Hébergements principaux en homestay et hôtels sur Hanoi.
Nombreux musées , temples et quartiers sur Hanoi visités
Trek de 2 jours et 1 nuit sur Sapa avec May de la minorité Hmong en direct et sans agence .
Plusieurs petits regrets , temps couvert et pas de possibilité d'aller au Fansipan mais rien de grave 😉, pas pu trouver de transport pour rejoindre Mu Cang Chai de Sapa .
À part cela , ce voyage restera gravé dans nos mémoires pour la gentillesse des vietnamiens , les rencontres faites , la nourriture ( rue , homestays...) , les cafés 😋, les paysages , la facilité pour se déplacer ....
Notre volonté était de prendre notre temps et de nous consacrer uniquement à une petite partie du Nord Vietnam.
Si vous avez besoins de conseils ou d'adresse n'hésitez pas.
Au plaisir .
Cédric .
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.