Traversée de l'Algérie du Nord au Sud en voiture pour rejoindre le Niger et par la suite le Bénin
by BJ2012
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, voilà , je souhaiterais traverser l'algérie au mois de Juillet 2012 entre le 1er et le 7 juillet... En effet je compte rejoindre le niger et le bénin, je recherche toutes informations récentes concernant la traversée de l'algérie....formalités au port de marseille, formalités a Alger et pour le reste déplacement a linterieur du pays. Merci
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Pour le reste je suis citoyen CEDEAO néanmoins j'aimerais savoir où est-ce que je pourrai prendre l'assurance CEDEAO pour ma voiture(Peugeot 607) avant ou après entrée sur le territoir nigérien !? Merci pour vos réponses et avis ....
Ps:Je ne compte pas faire du tourisme je sera rapide et ce sera une traversée directe et stricte, les arrêts seront que indispensables
Ps:Je ne compte pas faire du tourisme je sera rapide et ce sera une traversée directe et stricte, les arrêts seront que indispensables
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Tu dois contacter une agence Algérienne qui te fournira un guide pour la traversée.
RR.
Merci pour votre réponse mais je voudrais surtout savoir tout ce qui concerne la traversée de l'algerie dans les moindres détails si possible ou si vous connaissez une agence compétente . Merci
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J'en connaissais une mais qui a maintenant qq difficultés.
J'en cherche une nlle pour mon prochain voyage au Sahara en Octobre.
J'ai déjà contacté celle là:
http://www.benkada-travel.com/index.htm
RR.
J'ai déjà contacté celle là:
http://www.benkada-travel.com/index.htm
RR.
Merci, donc j'imagine qu'il n'y a pas des trucs du genre fermeture de frontières et autres .... bon, concernant la sécurité au nord du niger, enfin disons tout le niger on sait tous ce que sait mais bon j'espère que ma peau noire et le fait que je compte pas traîner pourront maider un peu ......encore merci pour le tuyeau
la chance n'accorde ses faveurs qu'aux âmes averties
j'ai oublié de vous demander si vous aviez déjà fais ce périple !!!
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Oui mais en 2007! en 2009/2010 je suis resté dans le Sahara Algérien.
RR.
c'était comment ?! juste quelques détails si c'est possible, état des routes, ambiance sur ces dernières, les guides? qu'en ait il vraiment? !! Merci
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C'était super bien sur.
Avec mon 4x4 pas de pb sur les routes! (on a fait surtout du hors piste).
Je crois que depuis 2 ans la Transaharienne est goudronnée tout du long jusqu'à In Guezzam mais comme d'hab il doit y avoir des secteurs à trous!
Bon accueil, pas de pb.
Guide OK mais il faut bien préciser son itinéraire avant.
RR.
Bonjour
Je connais un autre intinéraire par le Maroc. Je ne sais pas si ça t'intéresse.
Je connais un autre intinéraire par le Maroc. Je ne sais pas si ça t'intéresse.
Decouvrire l'humain
Cool , moi je veux y aller le plus vite possible en tout cas !!
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Bonjour
Je crois que tu n'es pas au courant que l'Algérie ne délivre plus ou presque plus des visas à destination du sud ! En plus, la zone frontalière étant bloquée pour les étrangers, je craisn que ton projet n'est pas adapté à la situation actuelle ! Il faudra que tu contactes le consulat d'Algérie et que tu poses clairement les questions liées à ton projet ! L'extrême sud de l'Algérie et le nord du Niger bouillonnent en ce moment, d'autant plus avec la guerre au nord du Mali et la présence d'AQMI dans toute cette région... près d'un millier de touareg ont fui le Mali et la région d'Azawad pour se refugier au nord du Niger !
LILI
Je crois que tu n'es pas au courant que l'Algérie ne délivre plus ou presque plus des visas à destination du sud ! En plus, la zone frontalière étant bloquée pour les étrangers, je craisn que ton projet n'est pas adapté à la situation actuelle ! Il faudra que tu contactes le consulat d'Algérie et que tu poses clairement les questions liées à ton projet ! L'extrême sud de l'Algérie et le nord du Niger bouillonnent en ce moment, d'autant plus avec la guerre au nord du Mali et la présence d'AQMI dans toute cette région... près d'un millier de touareg ont fui le Mali et la région d'Azawad pour se refugier au nord du Niger !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
J'ai posé la question à mon consulat; réponse: il faut contacter l'agence algérienne qui te donnes la procédure à suivre, plus compliquée et plus longue que l'année derniere mais qd meme possible.
Je connais qqu'un qui vient d'avoir son visa pour Février.
Bonjour
C'est que actuellement Le Nord du Mali est sous tension par le soulèvement du MNLA un groupe armé touarègue qui a attaqué un caserne de L'armée. Au Sénégal les élection au mis la confusion dans la capitale. Il faut bien se rensegner sur les itinairères les plus sur et savoir les procedures de formalité douanière.
C'est que actuellement Le Nord du Mali est sous tension par le soulèvement du MNLA un groupe armé touarègue qui a attaqué un caserne de L'armée. Au Sénégal les élection au mis la confusion dans la capitale. Il faut bien se rensegner sur les itinairères les plus sur et savoir les procedures de formalité douanière.
Decouvrire l'humain
Oui mais tu ne vas pas traverser l'Algérie pour te rendre au Niger et en plus en 4x4 ! Donc c'est loin d'être gagné ! Ce soir, les nouvelles ne sont pas bonnes du tout dans la zone Niger/Mali/Algérie... suite aux évènements et à l'insécurité certaine ! La France ne compte pas donner de la "chair fraîche" aux kidnappeurs et ils ne veulent plus payer des rançons ! Donc ....
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
je comprends vos reticences, c'est pas pour me désolidariser mais en ce qui me concerne , je ne compte pas utiliser mn passport français, ( jaurai besoin de visa pour le niger et autres) jai un passeport béninois donc CEDEAO , je suis noir, j'ai pas de 4*4 , je ne compte pas profiter d'un tel ou tel paysage....je veux être rapide , m'arrêter le moins possible .... dans tous les cas on est jamais assez prudent et il y a des risques partout, quoi que , cest pas une raison pour se jetter dans la gueule du loup j'en convient.... bref, ce qui m'interrse surtout c'est les renseignements et formalites, pour embarquer a marseille(quels papiers pr le vehicule, a Alger que faut il pr circuler en regle dans le pays) cmbien de tps environ pour faire Alger-in guezzam sans tarder(pas de tourisme) !! pour le reste a mes risques et perils coe le dirait l'autre) Merci davance pour vos reponses
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Mais l'Algérie ne te demande pas de visa ?
Au port de Marseille, il faut que tous les papiers du véhicule soit en règle (carte grise au nom du chauffeur, assurance, plaque d'immatriculation, ...). Puis une fois arrivée à Alger après avoir attendu min. 4 à 8 h au port, tu pourras circuler librement avec l'assurance prise à bord du bâteau pour la durée de ta traversée... A la frontière (si tu passes) tu devrais faire enlever ton véhicule de ton passeport.
C'est tout... la route N1 est goudronnée et refaite jusqu'à Tam, après je ne connais pas.... Il faut être très prudent sur la route, beaucoup de chauffards y compris des camions et bus ! Sans oublier la présence de chameaux sur la route à partir de Laghouat mais surtout après Ghardaia ! Des congères de sable donc respecter les panneaux de signalisation et attention, respect total de la vitesse les gendarmes ne font aucun cadeau !!! Je te déconseille de circuler la nuit, après Ghardaia et de ne pas t'arrêter dans des zones isolées même en plein désert ! Il y a des gangs de voyous qui détroussent les gens sur la route même en simulant un accident !
Je connais très bien cette route jusqu'à Tam pour l'avoir fait à plusieurs reprises même seule lorsque je vivais au Sahara !
LILI
Au port de Marseille, il faut que tous les papiers du véhicule soit en règle (carte grise au nom du chauffeur, assurance, plaque d'immatriculation, ...). Puis une fois arrivée à Alger après avoir attendu min. 4 à 8 h au port, tu pourras circuler librement avec l'assurance prise à bord du bâteau pour la durée de ta traversée... A la frontière (si tu passes) tu devrais faire enlever ton véhicule de ton passeport.
C'est tout... la route N1 est goudronnée et refaite jusqu'à Tam, après je ne connais pas.... Il faut être très prudent sur la route, beaucoup de chauffards y compris des camions et bus ! Sans oublier la présence de chameaux sur la route à partir de Laghouat mais surtout après Ghardaia ! Des congères de sable donc respecter les panneaux de signalisation et attention, respect total de la vitesse les gendarmes ne font aucun cadeau !!! Je te déconseille de circuler la nuit, après Ghardaia et de ne pas t'arrêter dans des zones isolées même en plein désert ! Il y a des gangs de voyous qui détroussent les gens sur la route même en simulant un accident !
Je connais très bien cette route jusqu'à Tam pour l'avoir fait à plusieurs reprises même seule lorsque je vivais au Sahara !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
merci pour ces tuyeaux... bien sûr que j'aurai besoin d'un visa algérien, mais bon il me fallait avoir une idée de la faisabilité avant d'entreprendre toute démarche!!
la chance n'accorde ses faveurs qu'aux âmes averties
Mais je viens de voir la date de ta traversée, là je mets des doutes sérieuses ! Il fait extrêmement chaud et vers Ghardaia, El Golea, In Salah, .... les T° dépassent les 45° C voir même 50°C ! C'est très dure sauf si tu as une voiture adaptée qui supportera un tel trajet sans surchauffer et de donner de la clim à l'intérieur !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
j'avoue, mais j'y ai sérieusement pensé déjà...je verrai les détails avec mon garagiste pour que le changement brutal de température ne soit pas fatal pour le moteur , en ce qui concerne la clim (pas de problème, elle sera recharger à fond et au top pour l'occasion). Par contre j'aimerais bien savoir combien me coûtera la traversée (Alger- In guezzam) environ
la chance n'accorde ses faveurs qu'aux âmes averties
Bonjour
Pour les, visa, formalités, sécurité, etc... d'autres te répondront surement mieux que moi .Comme Tassili la déjà fait. La traversée; Alger, In guezzam; RN1.. 2430 km .. assez bonne route totalement goudronnée ( tout peut changer d'ici juillet, les crues d'oued si elles seront fortes peuvent faire des dégâts dans les parties centrales et extrêmes sud)
Jusqu’à Guardaia(600km) aucun fait majeur. au delà les distances entre les villes sont importantes El goléa (870)km .. ville importante ... carburant et eau....Auberge de jeunesse (2euro nuitée/P) PK 1070 Ti guentour point intermédiaire Carburant (gasoil seulement) Ain salah (1270 km) ville importante ... carburant eau etc....Auberge de jeunesse (je préfère la belle étoile)
Arrak ( 1650km) mini agglomération ... carburant, eau, etc... Tamenrasset (1980 km) ville très important carburant, (route et réserve jerrican)Auberge de jeunesse (Je préfère la belle étoile)
In Guezzam 2430 km .... carburant ect.... et bonne chance
Gasoil (0.13 cts d'euro/L) essence (0.19à 0.23 cts d'euro /L) Baguette de pain (0.10 cts .) Eau minéral 1.5L( 0.25) .1quart de poulet rôti (1.5).1 yaourt (0.12).1 café 0.20). 1k de pomme (1.5)
Bon courage
Pour les, visa, formalités, sécurité, etc... d'autres te répondront surement mieux que moi .Comme Tassili la déjà fait. La traversée; Alger, In guezzam; RN1.. 2430 km .. assez bonne route totalement goudronnée ( tout peut changer d'ici juillet, les crues d'oued si elles seront fortes peuvent faire des dégâts dans les parties centrales et extrêmes sud)
Jusqu’à Guardaia(600km) aucun fait majeur. au delà les distances entre les villes sont importantes El goléa (870)km .. ville importante ... carburant et eau....Auberge de jeunesse (2euro nuitée/P) PK 1070 Ti guentour point intermédiaire Carburant (gasoil seulement) Ain salah (1270 km) ville importante ... carburant eau etc....Auberge de jeunesse (je préfère la belle étoile)
Arrak ( 1650km) mini agglomération ... carburant, eau, etc... Tamenrasset (1980 km) ville très important carburant, (route et réserve jerrican)Auberge de jeunesse (Je préfère la belle étoile)
In Guezzam 2430 km .... carburant ect.... et bonne chance
Gasoil (0.13 cts d'euro/L) essence (0.19à 0.23 cts d'euro /L) Baguette de pain (0.10 cts .) Eau minéral 1.5L( 0.25) .1quart de poulet rôti (1.5).1 yaourt (0.12).1 café 0.20). 1k de pomme (1.5)
Bon courage
"le désert n'est pas silencieux , il parle aux gens qui l'écoutent"
Je suis tombée par hasard sur cette discussion car moi je pars au bénin cet été .......en avion
Comme j'ai vécu 5 ans en Algérie, il y a 30 ans , ce pays reste cher à mon coeur et j'y suis retournée depuis , 2 fois dans le grand sud et en novembre 2010 ou j'ai gardé des amis. Je suis allée aussi au Niger, Lybie, Mauritanie, Mali....et de nb pays d'Afrique
C'était calme mais maintenant je pense qu'il est un peu suicidaire de traverser ce pays, noir ou blanc, ainsi que ses voisins
mais j'espère y retourner et faire ces grandes traversées de désert, je serais à la retraite l'an prochain et j'aurais alors plus de temps
Roronew , je vois que tu es lyonnais comme moi alors si tu veux prolonger la discussion, je suis une passionnée de désert Cordialement
Comme j'ai vécu 5 ans en Algérie, il y a 30 ans , ce pays reste cher à mon coeur et j'y suis retournée depuis , 2 fois dans le grand sud et en novembre 2010 ou j'ai gardé des amis. Je suis allée aussi au Niger, Lybie, Mauritanie, Mali....et de nb pays d'Afrique
C'était calme mais maintenant je pense qu'il est un peu suicidaire de traverser ce pays, noir ou blanc, ainsi que ses voisins
mais j'espère y retourner et faire ces grandes traversées de désert, je serais à la retraite l'an prochain et j'aurais alors plus de temps
Roronew , je vois que tu es lyonnais comme moi alors si tu veux prolonger la discussion, je suis une passionnée de désert Cordialement
Line
Oui, actuellement c'est pas trés sur de faire la traversée Algérie-Niger-Bénin.
En espérant des jours meilleurs!
Je retourne en Algérie (Nord Sahara) en Octobre, si tt va bien.
RR.
Aucun étranger passe la frontière Algérie/Niger ! Pas d'autorisation !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Bonjour,
Pourquoi tu ne passes pas par le maroc et la mauritanie?
;On longe la cote atlantique trés ventilée(meme pas chaud)au lieu de cuire au centre du sahara, au mois de juillet!
Tu gagneras du temps et de l'argent et surement bien des emmerdes!
A titre indicatif, celui qui roule bien(longtemps)descends en 5 jours a Dakar(par l'éspagne)
Plus on fait de bateau, plus on perd du temps!
Cordialement
patrick
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone,
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Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
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Hello to all Morocco lovers,
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
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First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
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He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.




