Bonjour,
J'ouvre une nouvelle discussion pour des infos sur notre fin de circuit et notamment le choix des transports pour aller de CM via BKK sur les îles du golf (nous sommes 4: 2 adultes + 2 ados)
Nous souhaitons passer entre 4 et 5 jours à Ko pha gnan et/ ou Kho tao. (probablement du 22/07 au 27/07)
Pour y aller nous partons de Chiang mai autant dire que ce sera une très longue journée!
A force de chercher des idée d'itinéraires sur le Forum, j'avoue que je me noie un peu dans les infos.
Nous tenons à découvrir l'expérience train de nuit et nous ne souhaitons pas engloutir notre budget voyage dans un vol direct BKK/kho samui!
- 1ère ID: c'est le train de nuit entre CM et BKK ( mais arrivée vers 06h50)
Ensuite c'est un peu le flou: prendre un train ou un bus jusqu'à Chumphon (encore de nuit??? mais du coup, nous restons une journée en transit à BKK à attendre ... )
ensuite le bateau juqu'à Kho pha gnan ou ko tao
- 2ème ID: avion CM/BKK , (possibilité d'arriver dans l'après midi) puis train de nuit jusqu 'à Chumphon + bateau jusqu'à Kho tao puis Kho pha gnan.
- 3ème idée: vol CM/ BKK + train de nuit jusqu'à surat thani puis bus+ferry jusqu'à Kho samui (puis direction kho pha gnan)
ou l'inverse train de nuit CM/BKK (arrivée tot le matin) + avion BKK/surat thani + bus + ferry
Pff! 🤪 j'espère que je me suis fait comprendre...moi je m'embrouille!!!
dernière question: faut il réserver en avance les transports et hôtels à cette saison?
merci d'avance pour votre aide,
Corinne
ou l'inverse train de nuit CM/BKK (arrivée tot le matin) + avion BKK/surat thani + bus + ferry c'est cette version que je privilégierai moi.
Question train de nuit CM=>BKK, je passe, je l'ai plus fait depuis mes 22 ans.
et oui pour les réservations sur les avions, pour les hôtels sur Koh Phan Ngan et Koh Tao, c'est toujours mieux, cette région étant plus calme niveau climat, les touristes vont plus de ce côté que du côté Andaman.
Ceci dit, il y aura de la place, mais dans quelles conditions ? 300 m de la plage ? avec ventilo ? bruyant ? Cela dépend si vous souhaitez chercher sur place, mais selon l'heure où vous arrivez, il faudra peut être marcher beaucoup avec vos sacs sous + de 35 degrés et plus de 90 degrés d'humidité et demander aux hôtels si ils ont de la place et vos ados risquent de se plaindre. Si vous arrivez vers 11h, les chambres vont gentillement se libérer, ça bouge au jour le jour.
la solution intermédiaire voudrait peut être que vous réserviez 1 ou 2 nuits, puis que vous regardiez sur place si vous trouvez mieux.
A+
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Bonjour Corinne,
Je suis dans le même cas de figure, puisque nous voulons faire Chiang Mai/Koh Phangan avec nos deux ados, vers le 25 juillet, pour finir notre périple Thailandais par un séjour sur les îles.Si cela peut te rassurer, nous nous sommes posés exactement les mêmes questions que toi ! Je te livre le résultat de mes intenses 🤪 réflexions...
Nous avons d'abord écarté l'option 'tout avion'.
Les vols CM-Koh Samui ou CM-Surat Thani (direct voire avec une escale à BGK) ne sont proposés que par la Thai et par Bangkok airways : Prix en ce moment = 180 à 200 euros par personne => trop cher pour nous quand on multiplie par 4 !
J'ai trouvé des vols CM/BGK (40 à 50 euros/pers) et des BGK/ST (en ce moment environ 30 euros/pers) en low cost sur Air Asia et Nokair.
Le problème, c'est que ces vols s'enchainent mal : pas assez de temps entre les 2 vols pour gérer les bagages ou au contraire plusieurs heures d'attente à l'aéroport, voire nécessité de dormir à BGK pour reprendre l'avion le lendemain matin. Autre contrainte à prendre en considération : si tu prends le premier vol du matin CM/BGK puis un BGK/ST qui arrive dans l'après-midi, tu ne peux prendre ni les ferry du matin, ni ceux qui partent en début d'après-midi => donc nécessité là encore d'attendre le lendemain pour rejoindre Koh Tao ou Koh Phangan
J'ai ensuite envisagé de combiner un trajet de train et un trajet en avion, mais ça ne m'a pas convaincue.
Dans le premier cas, ça donne : train de nuit CM/BGK puis, le jour suivant, trajet gare-aéroport + enregistrement au moins 2 heures avant le décollage => donc vol de 14h20 ou de 14h35 (impossible en effet de prendre les vols qui partent avant puisqu’ils sont à 6h20 ou 7h00 du matin). Si on rajoute ensuite le temps de récupération des bagages puis le trajet en bus de l’aéroport de ST jusqu’à Don Sak, on arrive, là encore, après le départ du dernier ferry, d’où l’obligation de dormir sur place afin de prendre le ferry du lendemain matin.
Le deuxième cas est plus envisageable, car cela donnerait : départ de CM en fin de matinée (trajet hôtel-aéroport puis enregistrement) pour avion CM/BGK en début d’aprèm (par exemple, vol de 14h20 ou de 14h35), puis transfert aéroport/gare et train de nuit BGK/ST et ferry (du matin si le train est à l’heure ou du début d’après-midi s’il a du retard).
Tout ça pour te dire qu’au final, pour limiter le portage, l’enregistrement et la récupération des bagages + les transferts gare/aéroport, nous avons décidé de prendre deux trains de nuit : CM/BGK dans la nuit du 25 au 26/07 => sacs laissés à la consigne de la gare puis journée du 26/07 consacrée au shopping dans les centre commerciaux de BGK (notamment achat de maques, tubas, sandales pour la plage…) => retour à la gare pour train de nuit BGK/ST dans la nuit du 26 au 27/07 et donc ferry le 27 au matin.
Ces raisonnements sont également valables si tu descends à Chumphon puisque cette station est sur la même ligne de train que Surat thani. D’ailleurs, quand tu regardes une carte, c’est plus logique de descendre à Chumphon et d’y prendre le ferry pour se rendre sur les îles (qui sont au sud-est de cette ville) que de rester deux heures de plus dans le train, jusqu’à Surat thani, pour y prendre un ferry qui remonte vers le nord-est. Autre avantage de Chumphon : le train est censé y arriver vers 4h00 du matin… et comme les trains thailandais sont souvent en retard, ça laisse de la marge pour prendre le ferry de 7h00.
J’espère que ces cogitations détaillées t’aideront 😉 et qu’elles aideront d’autres membres du forum. Ceux qui s’y prennent suffisamment tôt comprendront qu’il faut réserver des vols directs le plus en amont possible, quand les tarifs sont encore bas !
Pour les autres, ce serait sympa de nous donner votre avis !! Surtout s'il existe une combinaison magique que je n'ai pas étudiée !!
"Les optimistes sont des imbéciles heureux et les pessimistes des imbéciles malheureux " Georges Bernanos
OUf!!🤪
je me sens moins seule,
Je vais me pencher sur ta solution ce WE! mais j'aime bien l'ID de m'arrêter à Chumphon pour y prendre le ferry direction kho tao.
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pour les trains de nuit, il est conseillé de réserver à l'avance, comment vas tu ty prendre?
et pour le retour îles /BKK , tu envisages aussi le train de nuit?
pour les trains de nuit, il est conseillé de réserver à l'avance, comment vas tu ty prendre?
Je viens à l'instant d'acheter mes billets CM-BGK 🙂 sur le site suivant :http://www.thairailticket.com
Tu crées ton compte puis tu choisis ta destination, ton train et même tes couchettes (celles du bas sont plus larges et il semblerait qu'on soit moins secoué en milieu de wagon). Tu payes par CB en mode sécurisé (j'ai reçu un code de validation sur mon tel portable, exactement comme comme pour mes e-achats en France) et tu as immédiatement tes billets en PDF (tu peux les imprimer mais aussi les enregistrer pour pouvoir de nouveau y accéder au cas où tu perdrais les permiers docs).
Je viens même de recevoir un mail de confirmation avec les billets en pièce attachée. Cout total pour nous 4 : 3526.72 bt
Je prévois de prendre des billets similaires pour BGK/Chumphon et pour le retour (début août).
Pour info, tu peux réserver en ligne 60 jours à l'avance si tu parcoures toute une ligne, mais seulement 30 jours à l'avance si tu montes/descends à une gare intermédiaire.
pour les hotels sur place: as tu déjà réservé?
Oui. Je me suis servie d'une carte que j'ai trouvée sur ce forum pour dégrossir le sujet (désolée, je ne retouve plus ce post) et choisir une plage, puis re-forum et tripadvisor pour choisir le bungalow.
J'ai réservé un bungalow 'privilège' avec 2 chambres + clim, directement sur la plage :http://www.seetanu.com/bungalows/bungalow-privilege/
Je ne me permettrais pas de te le conseiller puisque, par définition, nous ne l'avons pas encore testé!!
Mais les commentaires sont élogieux :http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g303907-d2519600-Reviews-Seetanu_Bungalows-Koh_Phangan_Surat_Thani_Province.html
Et puis nous avons eu des échanges très sympas par mail avec les propriétaires qui sont belges, donc francophones.
Sandra
"Les optimistes sont des imbéciles heureux et les pessimistes des imbéciles malheureux " Georges Bernanos
Je prévois de prendre des billets similaires pour BGK/Chumphon et pour le retour (début août).
Tu vas de Chumphon à Koh pha ngnan directement ou tu passes par Koh tao d'abord?
Il me semble que passer faire BKK/ Surat thani est mieux si on va à Ko pha gnan ?
bonjour, je me permets d'intervenir dans votre echange car j'ai deja fait ce trajet au mois de mars :1er le train de nuit CM/BKK coute 531bt en 2eme classe fan et arrive TRES en retard a bkk (vers 13h au lieu de 5h30!!!! depart prevu 14h50 en fait 18h) donc prevoir large!!!2eme train bkk/surratthani coute 580 bth en 2eme classe ac depart 22h50 ...pour ma part j'ai pris un billet a la gare de hua lamphong le jour meme et apres m'etre renseigné j'ai pris au guichet un billet lomprayah chumpon/koh pha ngan 900bth :le plus rapide est ce bateau lomprayah qui dessert koh tao , koh pha ngan , koh samui et qui vous ATTEND A LA GARE DE CHUMPON !!!j'ai pris le ferry "RAJA" koh samui /donsak avec leur autocar (pourri)pour aller a krabi :je deconseille fortement car il y a eu une fouille dans ma valise(vol d'un portable )!!! et de plus le trajet est d'une lenteur(9h00/19h00)avec une multitude de transferts .....sinon koh pha ngan tres bon choix ;pas trop cher , attention aux locations de scooters ils demandent TOUS de garder votre passeport .(.nombreux petits resorts a tong sala(400bth ac ) , voir le site agoda par exemple ) bon voyage ....moi je ne repars qu'en octobre .
merci à tous pour les conseils
finalement après réflexion nous avons décidé de prendre un avion CM -BKK :compagnie nok air / 7160 B pour 4
puis train de nuit BKK / chumphon, pas encore réservé (19h30/ 4h13 si à l'heure) puis ferry pour koh pha ngan avec la compagnie Lomprayah
le plus rapide est ce bateau lomprayah qui dessert koh tao , koh pha ngan , koh samui et qui vous ATTEND A LA GARE DE CHUMPON
pour le ferry, je n'ai pas compris , tu as acheté les billets où?
J'ai réservé un bungalow 'privilège' avec 2 chambres + clim, directement sur la plage :http://www.seetanu.com/.../bungalow-privilege/
Je ne me permettrais pas de te le conseiller puisque, par définition, nous ne l'avons pas encore testé!!
Mais les commentaires sont élogieux :http://www.tripadvisor.fr/..._Thani_Province.html
Et puis nous avons eu des échanges très sympas par mail avec les propriétaires qui sont belges, donc francophones.
merci sandra, nous avons réservé 5 nuits (du 22 juillet au 27 juillet), nous aurions presque pu nous croiser😉
Je pense que nous ferons un saut sur koh tao.
Merci pour ton intervention !
Si le train CM-BGK a trop de retard, on supprimera le shopping pour sauter immédiatement dans le second train : compte-rendu à notre retour, c'est promis😉.
On va prendre un jeu de cartes !!
Pour le ferry, je prévois aussi de prendre Lomprayah.
J'indique le site pour Corinne :http://www.lomprayah.com/E/route.htm
Nous irons directement à Koh phangan donc nous avons repéré les 2 ferry suivants au départ de Chumphon : 07:00=> 10:45 ou, si retard de train : 13:00 16:10
J'hésite à prendre les billets de ferry à la gare de BGK, justement à cause des retards de train.
De plus, il paraît qu'on trouve des représentants de Lomprayah à la descente de tous les trains qui arrivent à Chumphon et cela, quelle que soit l'heure d'arrivée + que les ferry ne sont jamais pleins... on avisera donc une fois sur place.
J'ai bien noté d'éviter RAJA : merci pour l'info. Et j'ai aussi lu les posts sur les vols dans les bus : on tachera d'être prudents...
"Les optimistes sont des imbéciles heureux et les pessimistes des imbéciles malheureux " Georges Bernanos
Super ! Ravie d'avoir pu t'aider !
Même si tes billets d'avion sont 2 fois plus chers que nos billets de train, le prix total reste plus que raisonnable.
Je propose que nous reprenions toutes les 2 ce fil de discussion à notre retour pour y rendre compre de nos expériences et en faire profiter les autres.
D'ici là, bons préparatifs et bonnes vacances.
"Les optimistes sont des imbéciles heureux et les pessimistes des imbéciles malheureux " Georges Bernanos
Même si tes billets d'avion sont 2 fois plus chers que nos billets de train, le prix total reste plus que raisonnable
et encore... nous avions trouvé moins cher avec une compagnie low cost "orient thai airlines" mais les horaires ne nous convenaient pas pour prendre le train de nuit ensuite de BKK pour chumphon.
Je propose que nous reprenions toutes les 2 ce fil de discussion à notre retour pour y rendre compre de nos expériences et en faire profiter les autres.
D'ici là, bons préparatifs et bonnes vacances.
le plus rapide est ce bateau lomprayah qui dessert koh tao , koh pha ngan , koh samui et qui vous ATTEND A LA GARE DE CHUMPON
pour le ferry, je n'ai pas compris , tu as acheté les billets où?
bonjour, oui, c'est vrai j'ai oublié de le preciser .J'ai acheté le billet lomprayah tout simplement au guichet de la gare de hua lamphong (bkk )c'est la gare ou arrivent la plupart des trains pour bkk .ceci dit 2 choses:lomprayah ce n'est pas comme" raja " un ferry, lent et sale ;lomprayah c'est des autocars modernes et des overcrafts tres rapides et surs , catamaran tres stable et silencieux ;de plus il est possible a l'arrivée a bkk de trouver des billets partout et de faire le trajet en autocar (mieux que le train )+ bateau voir le site web lomprayah .si tu prends tout de meme le train de nuit pour chumpon depart NORMALEMENT!!a 22h50 , tu peux laisser tes bagages a la consigne de hua lamphong (35bth par sac , penser aux cadenas !! )et te balader a bkk ;le metro est a 50m .bonne journée
bonjour, il y a deux trains par jour CM/BKK dont un 2eme et 1ere classe clim qui est censé partir APRES le 2eme classe fan et qui en pratique (d'apres les agents de la" sncf "thai )part souvent en 1er !!de toute manière meme avec 5h de retard tu as le temps de faire du shopping , vu le nombre de centres commerciaux a bkk: Le long de la ligne de metro(environ 35bht) il y en a plein ;a la station siam tu en as le plus (mbk center(le -cher +food center -de 100bth) , discovery, paragon(le + classe, lamborghini , lotus , chanel...) etc.) bonne journée !
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Après avoir écumé le forum sans réussir à me décider, je me permets de solliciter vos conseils !
Après avoir voyagé 1 an de l'Iran à l'Indonésie avant de devenir maman, nous sommes enfin prêts avec mon conjoint à réaliser une premier grand voyage d'un mois avec nos enfants.
Nous aimerions 2/3 lieux à visiter, s'installer, rayonner autour.
Une destination assez facile (car nos enfants ne le sont pas tous les jours) mais je crains la Thaïlande (que je n'avais pas apprécié car trop touristique à l'époque).
Je pensais au Vietnam, que je connais pas. Peut être le Laos, mais passer quelques jours vers une belle plage c'est reposant avec 2 petits plein d'énergie..
Nous ne voulons pas enchainer les sites bondés et commerciaux, prendre le temps, et découvrir de beaux lieux.
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing:
22 July: arrival in Johannesburg
Night of 22–23: Johannesburg
Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th)
Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th)
Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?)
Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari)
Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?)
Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales
Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?)
Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th
10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think?
Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
I’d love some advice on choosing a Christmas destination for a trip with my partner and our two kids, aged 10 and 12.
We’re looking for a place where we can enjoy great, easy snorkeling with the kids—ideally from the beach or in shallow water.
And if possible, a beautiful spot to explore, with nature, hikes, and a more laid-back, backpacker-friendly vibe than big resorts or mass tourism.
A "reasonable" flight time and not too much jet lag would be ideal!
I’ve been considering Mauritius, Zanzibar (plus possibly Tanzania), Martinique, or Guadeloupe—but maybe you have other suggestions or thoughts on these options?
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate.
It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby;
- the very family-friendly atmosphere;
- the monasteries in incredible landscapes;
- the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap;
- the atmosphere of Geghard;
- the cliffs of Noravank;
- the food;
- the feeling of safety;
- the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected;
- some roads are mountainous;
- avoid overloading the day;
- it’s better to have a driver or a car;
- plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals;
- a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites;
- a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan
Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap
Day 3: Garni + Geghard
Day 4: Noravank + Areni
Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly.
It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
Hi everyone,
We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice!
We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights.
Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates.
After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend?
Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead?
We don’t want to take any domestic flights.
Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set:
Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Hi there, we're planning our vacation in Indonesia. We're a family with two kids aged 11 and 14. We leave on July 26th and return on August 17th, 2026.
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu
Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu
Morning & afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee
Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee
Nilaveli Beach
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee
Pigeon Island snorkeling
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee
Fort Frederick & relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya
Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya
Sigiriya Rock
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya
Minneriya safari
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya
Polonnaruwa & village tour
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 11 – 04/26: Ella
Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest
Overnight: Ella
Day 12 – 04/27: Ella
Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge
Overnight: Ella
Day 13 – 04/28: Ella
Ella Rock
Overnight: Ella
Day 14 – 04/29: Ella
Tea Factory & relaxation
Overnight: Ella
Day 15 – 04/30: Yala
Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Yala
Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay
Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay
Surfing & relaxation
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay
Local exploration
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo
Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest
Overnight: Colombo
Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo
City tour & shopping
Overnight: Colombo
Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo
Morning return flight from Colombo
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13).
We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊
Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit.
We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places.
We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think?
We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah.
Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary
Day 1
Arrival around 1 PM at the airport
Night in Negombo
Day 2
Drive from Negombo to Galle
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 3
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 4
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Drive from Galle to Udawalawe
Night in Udawalawe
Day 5
Visit Udawalawe National Park
Night in Udawalawe
Day 6
Drive from Udawalawe to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 7
Ella Rock
+ Nine Arch Bridge
Night in Ella
Day 8
Visit Haputale
Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory
Train ride back from Haputale to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 9
Little Adam’s Peak
+ drive from Ella to Arugam Bay
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 10
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 11
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 12
Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 13
Visit Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 14
Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya
Night in Sigiriya
Day 15
Lion Rock and Pidurangala
Night in Sigiriya
Day 16
Visit Dambulla
Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee
Night in Trincomalee
Day 17
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 18
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 19
Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 20
Visit Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 21
Visit Mihintale
Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo
Night in Negombo
Day 22
Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July?
Thanks for your input!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan:
We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options:
- Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van.
- Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia.
- Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:**
- Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe?
- Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest?
- Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?)
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks.
I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there.
Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time.
I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get.
Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts:
- For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days.
- A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!)
- With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes).
We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea.
We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play.
Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us?
We don’t know the region at all.
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon.
06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu
08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok
11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan
13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi
15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL
23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips?
Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting.
- How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us?
- Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower.
- February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring.
- Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area.
After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport.
Thanks in advance for your ideas.
Happy travels to everyone.