Problème de carte Bancaire à Bangkok
by Frederic27
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai eu un soucis à Bangkok il y a 3 semaines qui n'a rien de méchant mais qui demande aux ressortissants Français la plus grande vigilance.
Après un diner entre amis dans un resto pourtant fréquenté(clientèle éclectique) à Thonglor j'ai payé avec ma carte visa issue d'une banque française.Au bout de 10 minutes la serveuse vient m'annoncer que le paiement est refusé et que je devrais contacter la Banque.Trouvant cela bizarre je me rends à la caisse et demande à ce qu'elle refasse passer la carte et je suis point par point les étapes jusqu'à ce que l'écran affiche pin code ce dont elle ne tiendra pas compte car elle appuiera sur entrée encore puis message de refus.Je la demande de repasser encore et me donner l'appareil pour que je fasse mon code, paiement refusé car la caissière au bout de plusieurs essaies vient de bloquer ma carte.Elle me demande comme si rien n'était si je pouvais en espèces car selon elle j'ai un problème avec la banque.Tout en gardant mon calme je refuse poliment tentant vainement de lui expliquer que c'est de sa faute et face à cette incompréhension je demande l'intervention de la directrice qui a vite compris le problème et se confondant en excuse elle m'explique que cette dernière vient d'être embauchée etc... Elle m'offre donc le repas ce dont je refuse (18000 bath) car je lui explique que ce que j'ai consommé je paie et que l'erreur de votre personnel me devra être remboursé à savoir les frais d'envois de ma nouvelle carte (par DHL) par la banque et tout frais lié aux appels téléphoniques et à ma banque et au service infinité.Pendant huit jours je me suis retrouvé sans carte.Au passage j'aimerais souligner la nullité du service infinité.
Il y a deux jours même topo au supermarché, gens mal formés qui ne comprennent pas pourquoi j'insiste tant à voir l'écran pour savoir s'il faut un pin code ou pas et c'est en élevant la voix que de justesse ils ont bien failli de m'annuler encore la carte.
Conclusion toujours aller à la caisse et de demander s'il faut taper son code ou pas et s'ils ne comprennent pas il faut insister.
Très embêtant tout ça...
Dans certains pays, States, Canada...., les cartes de "prestige" sont utilisés sans faire de code. Surprenant, mais c'est comme ça.
La serveuse, n'a pas su faire la différence.
Dans certains pays, States, Canada...., les cartes de "prestige" sont utilisés sans faire de code. Surprenant, mais c'est comme ça.
La serveuse, n'a pas su faire la différence.
Le problème c'est que les cartes à puces seront émises de plus en plus par les banques Thaïs et les commerces s'équipent d'appareils exigeant de lire la puce et non plus la bande magnétique tandis que d'autres sont toujours équipés d'anciens appareils donc ce n'est à rien comprendre, de plus le personnel semble peu formé.Il faut faire attention surtout pour des touristes qui perdent l'usage de leur carte en cours de séjour, cela peut devenir très embêtant.
Pour les cartes dont je vous parlais, ils s'agissaient de carte à Puce, et non magnétiques.
Je suis bien "contente" (pas de ce qui vous ait arrivé) mais d'être tombé sur votre message, ainsi, maintenant je sais qu'il faut faire attention.
Rien de plus pénible que d'avoir fait le nécessaire pour avoir des cartes pour payer à l'étranger, et de se retrouver bloqué (encore plus énervant quand il s'agit d'un manque de formation d'une personne qui vous a bloqué votre carte).
Je suis bien "contente" (pas de ce qui vous ait arrivé) mais d'être tombé sur votre message, ainsi, maintenant je sais qu'il faut faire attention.
Rien de plus pénible que d'avoir fait le nécessaire pour avoir des cartes pour payer à l'étranger, et de se retrouver bloqué (encore plus énervant quand il s'agit d'un manque de formation d'une personne qui vous a bloqué votre carte).
Salut,
Après m'être fait cloner ma carte au Brésil dans un distributeur.J'utilise ce mode de paiement en dernier recours.Mais c'est sur tu vas pas t'amuser à te trimbaler avec des sacs de billets pour payer le resteau🤪.
D'ailleurs il y a quelques années (2 ans je crois)ils ont démanteler un gang Malaisiens+chinois.Ils avaient tous le matos pour refaire les cartes.Dans le reportage il était expliqué que les données des cartes étaient volés en Asie du sud est.Ensuite en France ils refaisaient les cartes et ils allaient acheter des produits de luxe sacs etc.Qu'ils revendaient par la suite...
Sur le forum y a des membres qui ont de sacrés problèmes avec leurs cartes bancaires.
En tous cas c'est peut -être un mal pour un bien, ne jamais quitté des yeux ta carte bancaire😉.
Après m'être fait cloner ma carte au Brésil dans un distributeur.J'utilise ce mode de paiement en dernier recours.Mais c'est sur tu vas pas t'amuser à te trimbaler avec des sacs de billets pour payer le resteau🤪.
D'ailleurs il y a quelques années (2 ans je crois)ils ont démanteler un gang Malaisiens+chinois.Ils avaient tous le matos pour refaire les cartes.Dans le reportage il était expliqué que les données des cartes étaient volés en Asie du sud est.Ensuite en France ils refaisaient les cartes et ils allaient acheter des produits de luxe sacs etc.Qu'ils revendaient par la suite...
Sur le forum y a des membres qui ont de sacrés problèmes avec leurs cartes bancaires.
En tous cas c'est peut -être un mal pour un bien, ne jamais quitté des yeux ta carte bancaire😉.
Il y a 4 ans j'ai reçu un message d'alerte du conseiller de mon compte en France avec une série de 9 retraits de l'ordre de 20000 bath d'un seul ATM sur Sukhumvit face à Emporium .Je n'en reconnais que le premier puis s'en suivent 8 retraits tous les 14 secondes.J'ai du faire opposition et les retraits ont été annulés. A quoi est ce dû? est ce que quelqu'un peut mettre un logiciel espion à l'intérieur?
Je privilégie les ATM dans des salles fermées.
oui, et même les cartes ordinaires Visa. En RFA, il y a quelques années, les lecteurs utilisaient non pas la puce mais la piste de la carte, donc juste une signature sur le ticket. D'ailleurs, sur les cartes des banques locales, il y avait la photo du titulaire.
C'est pour ça que je ne comprends pas l'erreur de la serveuse. En RFa, les lecteurs étaient à piste, donc même avec une carte à puce, il n'y avait pas de choix de procédure. Les lecteurs ont du évoluer, c'est pour ça que c'est le bazar ;-)
Et de toutes façons, dans tous les cas, on ne lâche pas sa carte des yeux. Et même malgré ces précautions de base, j'avais réussi me faire "soustraire" plusieurs centaines de pounds en Grande-Bretagne, alors que ma carte et mon compte était très récent, 2-3 mois, et que je m'en étais très peu servi en dehors des DAB de ma banque. Heureusement, la banque m'a remboursé.
Ici, au Kh, pas de problème. Payer par carte est réservé aux extra-terrestre. Tout, enfin énormément de choses, y compris des achats de plusieurs milliers d'Usd se font en liquide.
bonne journée à tous.
Il y a 4 ans j'ai reçu un message d'alerte du conseiller de mon compte en France avec une série de 9 retraits de l'ordre de 20000 bath d'un seul ATM sur Sukhumvit face à Emporium .Je n'en reconnais que le premier puis s'en suivent 8 retraits tous les 14 secondes.J'ai du faire opposition et les retraits ont été annulés. A quoi est ce dû? est ce que quelqu'un peut mettre un logiciel espion à l'intérieur?
Je privilégie les ATM dans des salles fermées.
http://voyageforum.com/forum/clonage_cartes_bancaires_au_bresil_que_faire_D511173-4/
c'est très fréquents j'avais ouvert un fil là dessus.J'ai jamais eu de problèmes en Asie.J'avais fais une recherche sur le forum un membre avait perdu des dizaines de milliers d'euros en Italie après avoir passé dans un grand hôtel.🤪
Les parades?
_gratter les 3 numéros au dos pour éviter les achats en ligne _avoir un compte pour le voyage ou toute les économies ou une énorme somme serait dessus en cas de vidage _avoir du liquide/travellers chéques au cas ou
http://voyageforum.com/forum/clonage_cartes_bancaires_au_bresil_que_faire_D511173-4/
c'est très fréquents j'avais ouvert un fil là dessus.J'ai jamais eu de problèmes en Asie.J'avais fais une recherche sur le forum un membre avait perdu des dizaines de milliers d'euros en Italie après avoir passé dans un grand hôtel.🤪
Les parades?
_gratter les 3 numéros au dos pour éviter les achats en ligne _avoir un compte pour le voyage ou toute les économies ou une énorme somme serait dessus en cas de vidage _avoir du liquide/travellers chéques au cas ou
D'ailleurs, il me semble que sur les péages d'autoroute (en france), on ne met pas le code secret pour payer. On passe la carte, la barrière s'ouvre ...
Parking sous terrain de mon centre ville idem...Juste à passer la carte.
J'ai vraiment pas confiance aux cartes bancaires.
J'ai vraiment pas confiance aux cartes bancaires.
Elle m'offre donc le repas ce dont je refuse (18000 bath)
hé bah, c'est un sacré repas 😛
En tout cas, je te remercie pour l'info, même si de toute façon, je ne paye (presque) jamais par CB sauf les trucs obligatoires comme le mois dernier chez "Avis" pour la location de la voiture.
hé bah, c'est un sacré repas 😛
En tout cas, je te remercie pour l'info, même si de toute façon, je ne paye (presque) jamais par CB sauf les trucs obligatoires comme le mois dernier chez "Avis" pour la location de la voiture.
_avoir du liquide/travellers chéques au cas ou
.
+1
Perso, dans un autre ordre; beaucoup de travellers, un peu d'espèce et la CB, au cas ou...
Mais, pour les travellers, ça veut dire qu'il faut faire le change dès la France, à la banque. Et parait 'il que c'est très désavantageux de changer ici en France que directement en thailande ?
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+1
Perso, dans un autre ordre; beaucoup de travellers, un peu d'espèce et la CB, au cas ou...
Mais, pour les travellers, ça veut dire qu'il faut faire le change dès la France, à la banque. Et parait 'il que c'est très désavantageux de changer ici en France que directement en thailande ?
Non, tu ne fais pas un change en France. Tu les achète en France (commission variant selon les banques, les miennes ne les vendent pas ; je les achète dans un bureau de change très connu, à 3%).
Le change se fait en Thailande, au cours du jour. S'ajoutent 30 et quelques baths de commission par travellers.
Même avec ces commissions, je m'y retrouve largement. Sans parler de la sécurité, peu chère payée, à mon avis...
Même avec ces commissions, je m'y retrouve largement. Sans parler de la sécurité, peu chère payée, à mon avis...
Si ça t'intéresse il s'agit du Harvey situé à Thonglor soi 9, assez sympa où souvent nous prenons nos repas d'affaire.
18000 bath gratis(nous étions quant même 10 personnes) c'était bien justifié si je compte tous les frais annexes.La directrice a quant même insisté face à mon refus de nous offrir aux moins les vins.Elle m'a remboursé rubis sur ongle tous les frais.
ah ok, je me suis fais arnaquer, il y a très très longtemps. On m'avait vendu des travellers déjà converti je crois....C'était cher 🏴☠️
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Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!






