Après avoir visité Hanoi et la région de Sapa, nous devons retourner à Bangkok. Au lieu de prendre l'avion pour retourner directement à Bangkok, nous pensions faire un arrêt au Laos. Nous ferons ce voyage en avril et disposons de 5 jours environ. Pensez-vous que cela soit une bonne idée?
- Nous aimerions visiter Luang Prabang. Aurions- nous le temps de faire autre chose? Avez-vous un hébergement à suggérer?
- Est-il facile d'entrer au Laos si nous partons de Hanoi?
- Puis de se rendre à Bangkok?
Merci Yves pour votre message. C'est vrai que 5 jours ce n'est pas beaucoup. Le but principal de notre voyage est le Vietnam où nous voulons passer 1 mois du sud au nord. Comme ce sera notre 1ère expérience en Asie du Sud-est, nous pensions faire une boucle à partir de Bangkok: Thaïlande (Bangkok et Chiang Mai = 2 semaines plus 1 semaine dans une île), Cambodge-Siem Reap (5 jours), Vietnam (4 semaines), Laos- Luang Prabang (5 jours) et retour à Bangkok pour reprendre l'avion vers Montréal.
Sur une carte, cette boucle semble intéressante MAIS en réalité est-ce qu'un tel trajet sera agréable à parcourir et ce, sans courir. Nous voulons passer au moins 3 jours à chaque endroit que nous visiterons.
Puisque vous passez 4 semaines au Vietnam, vous pouvez vous arranger pour terminer le Nord par Dien Bien Phu (par exemple en terminant le tour par Sapa, puis bus Sapa-DBP), 1 nt à DBP, passage frontière (visa lao délivré sur place) et prendre le BATEAU pour aller à LP ; il parait que c'est très chouette. Pour la visite du coin, voilà :
Luang Prabang est absolument charmante, avec beaucoup de belles choses à visiter (palais Royal, temples et pagodes, mont Phu Si, etc. J’ai apprécié aussi le grand choix de restaurants, avec leur terrasse à petits lampions le soir ; j’ai mangé à plusieurs reprises au Lamache, sur sa terrasse dominant le Mékong, et je recommande : délicieux, service impeccable, prix très raisonnables ; j’ai également fait un dîner remarquable au Coconut Tree, cour intérieure et jardin à l’arrière- très élégant et une cuisine lao raffinée (le patron, M. Somchit, parle un français impeccable). Par contre, j’ai mal mangé pour cher au restaurant huindou Nazim, pourtant recommandé par le Routard et le Lonely Planet.
En ce qui concerne les hôtels, je me suis amusé comme d’habitude à en visiter pas mal –et il n’y a que l’embarras du choix. J’ai couché dans la petite guest house Oudomphong 1, dans une ruelle juste avant le Mékong sur Inthasme Road (près de Radio Lao), très populaire chez les routards à cause des chambres avec douches communes à $8 et avec SdB privée à $10 ; juste derrière, l’Oudomphong 2, dans un grand jardin, est un peu plus cher ($11 pour les petites chambres, $12 pour les plus grandes) ; Deux excellentes adresses. Tél. (856) (71) 252 419. Pas d’Internet (mais il y a un Internet Cafe à gauche sur la rue principale juste avant d’arriver sur le Mékong). Location de vélos normaux et tout-terrain, et de motos.
Dans la catégorie au-dessus, mon préféré est le Ho Xieng, dans une petite rue sans nom (ils sont fâchés avec les panneaux de nom de rue au Laos !) descendant sur le Mékong. Très jolie chambres avec parquet en beau bois et meubles locaux, pour $25 au rez-de-chaussée, 30 au 1er étage avec fenêtre jardin, et $35 avec balcon.
J'ai bien aimé aussi les grands et beaux bars de Kingkitsarat. J'ai passé 2 soirées super au célèbre Hive Bar, avec sa terrasse sur la rue, son bar intérieur (hélas avec de la musique techno ... enfin, si on peut appeler ça de la musique ! et son vaste jardin aux petits lampions avec une excellent musique "Live" - Il en faudrait des comme ça à Hanoi ! Hélas aussi, comme au Vietnam, "couvre-feu" à 22h30, on se demande bien pourquoi !
LES EXCURSIONS AUTOUR DE LP
J’ai fait les 2 principales en 2 jours, mais on peut les faire dans la journée : les chutes de Khuang Xi, idylliques à 35 km à l’ouest de LP ; on dirait que tout le site a été dessiné par un paysagiste chinois ou japonais tellement c’est parfait ; amener les maillots de bain pour vous baigner dans les plans d’eau au pied des chutes 1 et 3, et les grottes au mille bouddhas de Pak Ou, dans un très beau cadre au confluent du Mékong et de la Nam Ou. Il y a aussi un village d'éléphants (sauvés de l'esclavage forestier par les responsables) avec toilette des éléphants et balades (Elephant Village - www.elephantvillage-laos.com).
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Je vous adresse un lien concernant un post que j'ai fait sur le Laos. Vous pourrez y "piocher" quelques idées si cela vous intéresse. Pour le logement à Luang Prabang, nous avons dormi à la Villa Chitdara 1. Cette guesthouse est tenue par un Laotien parlant parfaitement le français. L'accueil est absolument charmant. De plus, vous aurez la possibilité de voir les Moines défiler le matin sans qu'il y ait des hordes de touristes entrain de prendre des photos. Petite ruelle très calme pas loin des berges du Mékong.
Merci Mavn pour le lien vers votre post. Cela m'aidera beaucoup à préparer notre trop court séjour à Luang Prabang. Aviez-vous une voiture avec chauffeur pendant votre séjour au Laos?
Merci du merci ; vous devriez expliquer ça à Stef2hanoi qui non seulement me dénigre en message public, mais en plus m'insulte en messages privés - arrogant, grande gueule et cie - Comme quoi adorer rendre service est un dur métier !!!! 🤪
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Oui, nous avions un chauffeur et une guide. Nous sommes passés par un Ami hanoien qui a pour habitude de nous concocter nos différents voyages sur mesure (Vietnam, Cambodge, Laos (et Birmanie à venir). Le chauffeur et la guide sont venus nous chercher à l'aéroport de Ventiane et nous les avons "conservés" pendant 10 jours. Cela nous a bien aidé dans toute notre ballade telle que vous avez pu le lire car nous avons fait pas mal de route. Nous pouvions bien entendu prendre les bus locaux mais en discutant avec un couple qui les prenait, ils nous ont confiés qu'ils perdaient pas mal de temps. Avoir un chauffeur permet aussi d'arrêter là on l'on veut pour prendre des photos, pour parcourir un marché local, pour découvrir la population locale d'un tout tout petit village.... c'est une liberté qui a un coût bien entendu mais quel régal !!! vous ne pouvez pas malheureusement le faire en bus et le Laos est un Pays qui se découvre au fil de la route...des chemins que l'on parcourt...
Quant à la guide, il faut savoir que les Laotiens (guides) ne parlent pas bien le français comme peuvent le parler les guides vietnamiens. Nous avions quelquefois des difficultés à la comprendre mais malgré cela, elle nous a été indispensable lorsque nous étions chez l'habitant !!! sans elle, nous n'aurions pas pu vivre ces grands moments de pur bonheur puisque nous n'étions que mon Mari et moi, seuls sans aucun autre touriste dans le village!!!
Si vous restez à Luang Prabang, vous n'avez pas besoin de chauffeur. Des ballades à pied et à vélo vous feront découvrir cette belle région. Vous allez vous régaler !!!😉
Si besoin de plus d'informations, n'hésitez pas...
Lors de mes 3 séjours j'avais effectivement voiture+chauffeur pour avoir tous
les avantages décrits par MAVN (j'en profite pour lui transmettre mes amitiés)
par contre je fus plus chanceux car mes guides parlaient bien le Français. Le dernier
avait travaillé dans les ponts et chaussées et connaissait bien les villages et habitants ex travailleurs. Un autre était un ancien commandant de l'armée royale.
Certes âgés mais maîtrisant notre langue.
Attention au Laos beaucoup de déplacements se font en bateau, vous n'aurez pas tjrs besoin de la voiture., du guide oui pour vous faire ouvrir les portes des villages,
participer à un Bacci pour fêter votre venue, demander à ce que l'on vous donne un cours de cuisine, etc...de plus dans certaines ethnies il y a des préséances à respecter: présenter ses respects au chef avant de se balader dans son village.
Aller saluer les anciens avant de prendre des photos etc..
Un petit tuyau en revenant de la grotte de Pak Ou j'avais demandé à être débarqué sur la rive en face de LP à 3 ou 4 km avant pour rentrer à pied en traversant de jolis villages peu visités.
Bon voyage
Merci Eric pour votre post. Comme nous prèvoyons que 5 jours (est-ce suffisant?) à Luang Prabang, nos déplacements au Laos seront minimes. Croyez-vous que nous aurons besoin d'un chauffeur en tout temps? Auriez-vous des suggestions d'hébergements et les coordonnées pour votre chauffeur et guide?
Que suggèreriez-vous pour notre déplacement entre Hanoi (ou Sapa) et Luang Prabang? Et pour la fin du voyage:
1-retourner à Bangkok? par quel moyen de transport?Est-ce que le trajet en vaut la peine?
2- ou prendre un vol de LP ou Vientiane pour revenir à Montréal?
De hanoi, l'avion est le mieux ; de Sapa, vous avez un bus quotidien Sapa-Dien Bien Phu, 1 nt à DBP, passage frontière (visa lao délivré sur place), minibus jusqu'à Muong Kha et bateau sur la Nam Ou (spectaculire) jusqu'à LP.
Pour les chutes de Khouang Xi et Pak Ou, trop loin en vélo : j'ai loué une moto à l'hôtel mais vous avez aussi des tricycles motorisés (jumbos), plus sympas qu'une voiture fermée. Vous pouvez également aller à Pak Ou en bateau
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Comment allez-vous depuis votre dernier séjour au Vietnam ? Je suis très contente de vous lire sur ce sujet. De fait, vous avez eu de la chance concernant vos guides mais bon.... la nôtre parlait le français puisqu'elle est venue souvent en France mais ce n'était pas le français aussi compréhensible qu'avec les guides du Vietnam. C'était juste une question de prononciation ; peut-être les laotiens ont-ils plus de mal, je ne sais pas.
Concernant la grotte de Pak Ou, nous y sommes allés en bateau bien entendu et nous avons mangé dans le grand resto sur le bord de la rivière. La grotte n'est pas ce qui m'a le plus enchantée. Par contre, c'est dans le tout petit village derrière ce resto que nous étions invités à passer la nuit dans la maison du Chef du village !!! et là, heureusement que nous avions notre guide !!!
J'ai beaucoup aimé la chute d'eau Kouang Xi ; il est vrai que nous y étions en juin et il n'y avait absolument personne (il y avait une dizaine de personnes tout au plus sur tout le site). Quelle beauté et quelle quiétude on éprouve dans cet endroit et que de belles photos à prendre !!!! une petite merveille sans compter toutes ces fleurs magnifiques qui bordent la chute.
En repartant de cet endroit, nous avons croisé sur la route des marchands d'ananas sauvages !!!! oh que c'est bon !!! je m'en suis ramené un "gros" en France et nous l'avons dégusté chez nous. Un peu d'exotisme en Normandie (rire)😉
C'est vrai qu'il est possible de faire des ballades en petites motos à trois roues (je ne me souviens plus du nom) mais je ne me rappelle plus les distances entre Luang Prabang et les différents sites que nous avons visités donc je ne sais pas si c'est faisable (voir sur place). Par contre, trop loin en vélo !!! Notre chauffeur nous a été utile surtout pour relier les villes de Vientiane/Vang Vieng/ Luang Prabang.
Voilà. J'en ai profité pour répondre également à Musvin à qui je souhaite un merveilleux voyage.
Amicalement
Marie-Ange
P.S. Il y avait eu un post d'un forumeur qui posait la question de trouver un guide pour l'accompagner dans les petits villages au fin fond du Nord du Laos ; je suis restée en contact longtemps avec lui et à ma connaissance, il n'a jamais trouvé de guide qui pouvait l'accompagner comme il voulait le faire. Pas facile je crois.
Les chutes de Khouang Xi ne sont pas trop loin en velo et c est l occasion d une jolie balade. Luang Prabang ne se limitent a ces 2 seules excursions tres tres touristiques. Il y a de grandes possibilites de trekking dans la region de 1 a 7 jours avec nuits chez l habitant. Les sportifs sont combles car on peut faire du kayak, du velo, de l escalade, balade a dos d elephant. Vous pouvez vous combiner des packages multi-activites. Des excursions en bateau a la decouverte des villages vous sont aussi proposes. Si vous aimez la moto, contacter Freddy de Offroadlaos. Il vous loue une 250cc cross avec parcours sur GPS. A vous la piste et les villages de montagne de 1 a plusieurs jours sans se perdre.
Si vous avez un peu les moyens faites une rando a dos d elephant avec Shangri Laos sur les traces des premiers explorateurs francais.
Si vous aimez les cours de cuisine je vous recommande vivement le Tamarind restaurant, en anglais uniquement.
Pourquoi ne pas suivre des cours de tissage et/ou de batik ? Direction Ock Pop Tok, un centre de production superbement situe sur les bords du Mekong.
Ne vous inquietez pas il y a des endroits qui restent ouverts tres tard a Luang Prabang, tous ne ferment pas a 22h30. Allez donc au bowling, a la Pistoche ou Kudeta.
Je suis d'accord sur ce que vous dites mais il faut tenir compte aussi de la durée du séjour. Pour un séjour court, il ne faut pas partir dans tous les sens et plutôt s'arrêter sur un endroit tel que Luang Prabang et découvrir les alentours qui sont magnifiques.
Par contre, sur une dizaine de jours, alors là, on peut voir plus loin (trecks et autres....).
Un resto sympa de l autre cote de la Nam Khan, le Dyen Sabai dans une magnifique vegetation et avec une cuisine savoureuse. A gouter le BBQ lao et les saucisses typiques de LP.
Mavn et Larsay ont déja répondu sur plusieurs points pour rejoindre Luang Prabang.
Pour le départ je ne chercherais pas à rejoindre Bangkok route longue mais puisque vous avez 5 jours pourquoi pas 3 jours LP et 2 Jours Vientiane avant votre envol pour Montréal.
Pour la voiture elle n'est pas nécessaire tout le temps puisque l'on se déplace en bateau pour Pak Ou, l'expérience de Mavn avec une nuit sur place chez l'habitant et cérémonie du Bacci est à retenir . Khouang S; Larsay vous conseille le Jumbo ou le Samlor (moto avec une banquette perpendiculaire pour 2 sur le coté ) on roule donc à 3 de front!
Pour le guide je vous adresse cela en MP
Eh oui les bonnes choses ont une fin, et le séjour à ué/Hoi An terminé. Je n'étais pas detourné depuis 10 ans dans cette région : quel changement! surtout Hoi An qui s'est agrandie et ou les tailleurs et autres bottiers se sont multipliés en proportion du tourisme.
Sur les conseils de certains expatriés forumiste nous avons pu faire de jolies balades aux environs, à pied, en vélo en bateau. Comme partout , quand on a le temps, il suffit de s'éloigner un peu pour retrouver le charme des campagnes vietnamiennes.
Pour revenir au sujet du post, si sur le chemin vous avez croisé un marchand d'ananas sauvages, nous avions nous croisés 2 éléphants avec leurs chaines pour tirer les troncs d'arbres revenant de la foret. Aussitot j'ai demandé au guide de s'arreter et de négocier une promenade en foret avec les "mahouts" (cornac au laos) . Et en avant, les chaines sont restées avec le guide, avons trouvé une maison avec balcon pour s'assoir sur le cou de l'éléphant devant les enfants rigolards. 1 heure 1/2 à cru en pleine foret, traversée de villages de rivières, bref un beau souvenir. Comme nous en souhaitons vous et moi à Musvin.
Merci Eric pour vos bons souhaits. Dois-je comprendre par votre dernier message que vous avez été très déçu de Hoi An et Hué avec la multiplication de tailleurs et bottiers? Devrions-nous s'éloigner et trouver une chambre ailleurs?
Je me suis mal exprimé, je n'ai pas été déçu par Hoi An et ne changer rien, disons que j'avais un peu la nostalgie de ce que j'avais connu en 1993 et en 2003. Je ne regrette pas mes nuits en pleine ville, juste sur l'ile de An Hoi en face du pont japonais, La ville a toujours son charme, un autre charme car la première fois il n'était même pas possible d'y coucher.
remontez la rue Nguyen Truong To vous tomberez sur un marché qui ne voit personne sauf des locaux et l'ambiance est très différente du marché central,
prenez un vélo, cout 1USD la journée et remontez la rue Hai Ba Trung sur 4 ou 5 Km
vous arriverez au village de Tra Que à droite du village bcp de cultures maraichères
à Gauche un village très sympa, un petit resto sympa classé N°2 Tripadvisor le "baby mustard" en continuant cette meme route vous arrivez à la plage de An Bang
bcp fréquentée que celle de Cua Dai.
Si vous allez à Hoi An un jour de pleine lune la ville ne vit qu'avec des lampions et il y a des animations à chaque coin de rue. Les rues bondées de touristes ont aussi leur charme, J'habite Paris et je me promène avec plaisir sur les Champs Elysées et au mois d'Aout 90% des piétons sont des touristes!
Hué est plus grand il n'y a donc pas cette concentration comme à Hoi An.
Donc pas d'appréhension vous serez enchantés par ces 2 villes.
Difficile de vous suggérer un hotel ne connaissant ni vos goûts, ni votre façon de voyager, La 1ère semaine nous avons été au Long Life Riverside Hotel, l'objectif étant d'etre en centre ville pour rayonner à pied ou en vélo, hotel modeste, les chambres du devant 2ème étage sont correctes, Pdj pas inoubliable, une piscine modeste mais en centre ville il ne faut pas s'attendre à plus dans ce budget.
Après nous étions au Belhamy sur la plage d'An Bang : la moins fréquentée. Le budget n'est pas le même et les prestations sont supérieures, 2 piscines + la plage +
navettes pour la ville. Il y a 10 ans nous étions au Victoria sur la plage de Cua Dai
devenue très fréquentées. Très bien mais trop éloigné de la ville.
Vous pouvez voir nos avis sur Tripadvisor.
A dispo si vous souhaitez des précisions sur d'autres sites ; si nous les connaissons
C'st bien vrai que la petite île de l'autre côté du petit pont est bien plus tranquille et les hôtels moins cher (à part les 2 grandes resorts Vung Hung et celle d'à côté). Il y a aussi de chouettes hôtels très tranquilles sur la rive sud de la rivière, le long de la petite rue qui la longe - l'un de mes préférés est le Betel Garden, avec bungalows, jardins et piscine - mais ils ne sont pas bon marché non plus !
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Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…