Bonjour,
En prévision d'un séjour au Népal en 2014, nous envisageons ce parcours sur 19 jours à partir de Katmandou que nous propose un guide népalais.
Nous sommes deux marcheurs habitués.
Quel sont vos avis?
Day 01: Katmandu to syafru bensi(1460m)~around 6h by private car,
Day 02:syafru bensi to Gatlang(2238m)~
Day 03: Gatlang to tatopani(nutural hot spring)(2607m)5h. Here you can take bath in natural hot spring. \
Day 04:Tatopani to Thuman2250m)5 hrs~\
Day 05:thuman to Briddim(2229m) ~5/6h, \
Day 06: briddim to lamahotel(2455m)~5/6hrs \
Day 07:Rimche to langtang(3430m)~5/\
Day 08:langtang to kyanjin(3870m)3hrs\
Day 09 :hike to tserkuri (4995m)and overnight kyangjin 7hrs to up and down, \
Day 10:kyangjin to lamahotel (2380m)\
Dayv11:lamahotel to thulosyafru, (2200m)5hrs \
Day 12:thulosyafru to sing Gompa(3250m )5/6hrs
Day 13:sing Gompa to laurebinayak (3900m)4hrs
Day 14:laurebinayak to Gosainkunda, (4380m)4hrs visit lake.
Day 15:Gosainkunda to Phedi3(630m)4hrs, via laurebinak pass(4610m)
Day 16:phedi To Thadepati(3510m)5hrs
Day 17:Thadepati to Kutumsang(2470m)5hrs
Day 18:kutumsang to chisopani2215m)5/6hrs
Day 19:chisopani to sundarijal 4hrs walk and 1 hrs drive to ktm,
Salut,
Oui c'est le trek classique Tamang trail ( jusqu'au sixième jour)+ vallée du Langtang + retour par les lacs de Gosainkund + l'Helambu.. les étapes sont bonnes.. Le guide n'est utile que pour le col Laurebina ( 4650m) en cas de mauvaise visibilité.
Pour info je l'ai fait dans l'autre sens en y rajoutant le Ganja la à partir de Kyangjin Gompa ;pour ce col le guide ( haute montagne) est indispensable et 4 jours de bivouac.
Bonjour et merci pour ta réaction....
J'ai lu sur certains sites d'agence que l'on pouvait le réaliser dans l'autre sens.....quels sont les intérêts de l'un ou l'autre sens??? ou les contraintes???
merci
Non je ne vois pas plus d'intérêt dans un sens que dans l'autre;pour l'acclimatation c'est à peu près identique car le Tamang trail n'est pas très élevé:maximum 3000m au Nagthali pass. En partant de Sundarijal on monte très progressivement jusqu'au col Laurebinayak ( 4650m)...ça se vaut je pense.
Ps:Il y a quelques années il était intéressant de poursuivre à partir de Thuman vers Timure et Rasuwagadi jusqu'à la frontière Tibétaine ..il y avait la possibilité de voir les fortifications qui délimitent cette frontière ( vieux conflit Tibéto Népalais) mais aussi de traverser le pont -frontière et d'aller passer une journée dans le village Tibétain dont j'ai oublié le nom. Actuellement il parait que ce n'est plus possible mais surtout ça n'a plus d'intérêt car les chinois ont construit une piste et il n'y a pas d'autre d'alternative que de l'utiliser ( beaucoup de poussière!)
Depuis que les Chinois ont construit cette piste et inondé les villages Tamang de leurs produits alimentaires bas de gamme conditionnés dans des sacs plastique ou d'aluminium ces même villages jusqu'alors très propres sont maintenant jonchés de ces emballages plastiques et de toutes sortes d'immondices non recyclables! la rançon du progrès! et aussi mon coup de gueule.
Leur visite vaut quand même le coup mais il faut se hâter car la tôle ondulée aux couleurs criardes commence à remplacer ( comme presque partout au Népal!! sauf dans l'ouest et le Dolpo) les bardeaux de bois qui couvraient les toits des maisons aux balcons sculptés et joliment décorés..
Si vous n'avez pas encore choisi votre guide( mais peut-être aussi est-ce le même) je peux vous proposer un guide Tamang qui connait parfaitement sa région. De nombreux guides travaillant pour des agences à KTM ne sont pas de cette ethnie et ne connaissent pas le Tamang et pas non plus les coutumes locales..
Bon trek!
Bonjour,
Nous avons les mêmes soucis dans beaucoup d'endroit dans le monde. A Mayotte où j'ai travaillé, les tôles ont remplacé les murs séchés depuis bien longtemps....A la Réunion où nous habitons, les cases traditionnelles s'effacent peu à peu également....mais le style reste globalement...
Pour le guide, nous nous orientons avec Sonam dont le nom est revenu plusieurs fois sur le Forum concernant ses qualités humaines et ses compétences et il est Tamang. Il nous propose de passer dans son village pendant le trek....on rencontrera sa famille...c'est plutôt positif comme approche....son devis semble correct comparé à d'autres...sans aucune comparaison avec les agences bien sûr...
Il nous propose de monter en jeep le premier jour pour rejoindre le départ du Trek....on hésite....mais le bus d'après certains récits semblent très folklorique et aléatoire....nous aimerions éviter d'attaquer le trek avec les 11h00 de bus dès la première journée dans des conditions de transport plutôt rustique!!! 🙂 ...d'autant que le retour de l'Helumbu se fera automatiquement en bus mais sur une heure environ....ce qui est plus supportable même si des débordements horaires arrivent....
Sonam dont le nom est revenu plusieurs fois sur le Forum concernant ses qualités humaines et ses compétences et il est Tamang.
Si c'est un guide Tamang dont on a parlé sur ce forum et appelé Sonam il y a de fortes chances pour que ce soit celui que je recommande..
Pour info Il doit exister des centaines de Sonam.. Les Tamang tout comme les Sherpas associent un "prénom" qui la plupart du temps ( Homme comme femme!!) est un jour de la semaine ( le jour où ils sont nés) et leur nom qui n'est autre que celui de leur ethnie!! ( Tamang Gurung Sherpa etc) exemple Sonam Tamang ou Kisang Gurung ou Lhakpa Sherpa ce qui fait qu'on peut rencontrer des centaines de gens qui ont le même nom!! Ils se différencient en ajoutant leur lieu de résidence .
d'autant que le retour de l'Helumbu se fera automatiquement en bus mais sur une heure environ....ce qui est plus supportable même si des débordements horaires arrivent....
Oui pour aller à Syabru Bensi surtout en saison des pluies vaut mieux la jeep que le bus!! Au retour Sundarijal se trouve à environ 40 km de Kathmandu et c'est entièrement goudronné il faut quand même 1 heure à 1 heure 30 en fonction des embouteillages proche de la ville!
bonjour
nous disposons de 10 jours en partant de ktm pour revenir a ktm. pouvez vous me dire si on peut faire une boucle plus courte et si oui laquelle ? en vous remerciant
Bonjour,
Le trek Tamang Héritage est assez loin de KTM....bien que ce soit celui qui nous a le plus séduit tant sur le plan humain (les villageois étaient super! )que sur le plan architecturale des maisons...Celui de l'Helumbu nous a moins attiré car il semble que la proximité de KTM avec sa fréquence de touristes (C'est un trek très souvet fait) a beaucoup abîmé l'authenticité des personnes....c'est le seul endroit où on m'a demandé de l'argent contre une photo!!
Sur 10 jours, je pense que c'est faisable de faire l'Héritage Tamang...mais il faut compter sur le temps de la route pour rejoindre le départ du trek...ainsi que son ouverture!! question niveau, l'Héritage a été plus difficile en dénivelé que l'Helumbu...
Si besoin...on peut donner encore des précisions...
Bonne rando!
10 jours KTM-KTM..
Il faut savoir que pour tous les treks ou presque ( sauf Helambu) il faut compter un jour de trajet en bus à l'aller + 1 jour au retour il faut aussi une journée ou 1 demi journée ( au mieux) pour prendre le TIMS( permis) et payer les taxes pour les parc nationaux à l'office du tourisme. Reste 7 jours de trek au mieux 8 si tu vas dans l'helambu en partant de Sundarijal ( à 20km de KTM).
Trekking dans l'Helambu
1 -Prise du TIMS( 15 euros) et paiement des taxes ( parc du Shivapuri watershed) à l'office du tourisme
2- Départ de Sundarijal à 1 heure de bus de KTM et début du trek vers les 09/10 h du matin le même jour pour Chisopani
3-Chisopani Kutumsang
4-Kutumsang Tharepati
5-Tharepati Tharkekiang
6-Tharkekiang Sermathang
7-Possibilité de rentrer de Sermathang en bus vers KTM ( 7 ou 8 heures de bus)
sinon
Sermatang Melamchi gaon et retour dans la foulée en bus sinon retour le lendemain ( 5 ou 6 heures de bus)
Trek du "Tamang heritage trail."
1- Arrivée KTM et prise du permis de trek + réservation du bus si arrivée le matin à KTM!
2-KTM syabru besi en bus : 10 heures prix 6 euros ou 7 heures en jeep prix 140 euros!
3-Syabru besi-Gatlang
4-Gatlang-Tatopani
5 Tatopani Thuman
6-Thuman-Briddim
7-Briddim- Shepa gaon
8-Sherpa gaon Thulo syabru
9-Thulosyabru Dhunche
10-Retour en bus Dhunche KTM 08 heures
On peut aussi faire un trek de 6 jours sur le Tamang trail: Syabrubesi-Gatlang-Tatopani- Thuman-Briddim-Sherpa gaon- Syabrubesi
Avec 2 jours ( 1 jour aller et 1 retour) en transport + 1 jour à KTM pour faire le permis ça fait 9 jours au total
PS:ça risque d'être fatigant de prendre un bus ou même une jeep pour Syabru besi le lendemain de l'arrivée à KTM!! et ce en admettant que vous ayez pu avoir le permis et réservé votre bus pour le lendemain le jour même de votre arrivée..c'est le parcours du combattant!
Autres treks possibles dans les Annapurnas.
Prendre un bus pour Pokhara ( 7 heures de bus) et sur place prendre le TIMS( permis)
Si vous êtes de bon marcheurs vous pouvez aller en bus à Dampus et de là monter au camp de base de l'Annapurna en 7 jours aller-retour ( je l'ai fait dans les années 70 avec un sac de 4kg! et au départ de Pokhara!)). +1 jour retour en bus à KTM
Sinon le trek de poon hill ( balcon des Annapurnas) est faisable dans le même temps si on est bon marcheur!
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It doesn’t have to be all trekking; day hikes are great too.
I’m open to any tips!
Also, I see there are lots of train options if you book well in advance—does that only apply to the "fast" trains? Are there buses as well?
Hello,
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We’ve booked transportation with Kapverden Tours.
One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
Then we’ll be staying in Ponta do Sol,
Here’s what we’re planning:
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With the agency:
An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
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We’ll have a guide for this hike.
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What do you think of this itinerary?
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Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
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General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
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Elocine
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We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
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