merci pour vos conseils
3 semaines à Toronto, que faire hors de la ville?
by Marjoetfab
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
nous faisons pour la première fois un échange de maison avec des canadiens cet été et résiderons donc 3 semaines à Toronto.
Nous avons déjà une bonne vision de ce que nous pouvons voir dans la ville elle-même mais aimerions connaître qq bons plans "nature" à faire autour. Dans l'idéal, nous aimerions pouvoir dormir dans une cabane en pleine nature près d'un lac... est ce que cela existe ailleurs que dans notre imaginaire et à un prix raisonnable?
Y a t'il des coins à visiter qui ne sont pas sur la top list quand on est là pour qq jours seulement mais dont on peut profiter quand on a plus le temps?
Et dernière question, nous envisageons un break à New York au milieu du séjour, est ce que le trajet en voiture vaut le détour ou vaut il mieux prendre l'avion?
merci pour vos conseils
merci pour vos conseils
Bonjour
De TORONTO, il y a bien sur NIAGARA pas loin. Si vs voulez un coin nature, il y a le parc ALGONQUIN qui devrait vs plaire. A voir aussi : les milles iles.
TORONTO ->NYC : Aucun interet en voiture : c'est long, et de l'autoroute, à moins de choisire de passer hors autotroute dans les Appalaches, mais là ca devient tres long.
De TORONTO, il y a bien sur NIAGARA pas loin. Si vs voulez un coin nature, il y a le parc ALGONQUIN qui devrait vs plaire. A voir aussi : les milles iles.
TORONTO ->NYC : Aucun interet en voiture : c'est long, et de l'autoroute, à moins de choisire de passer hors autotroute dans les Appalaches, mais là ca devient tres long.
Super, merci pour ta réponse!
Quel coin du lac ontaria conseilles tu le plus si nous voulons nous faire un trip nature/camping ou louer un chalet si cela se fait?
Pour un vrai trip nature camping et chalet, je pensais surtout au parc Algonquin.
Regarde le site : http://www.algonquinpark.on.ca/
Autrement, il y a des locations de cabanes dans des vilages autour du parc.
Autrement voir là : https://www.ontarioparks.com/roofedaccommodation/fr
Regarde le site : http://www.algonquinpark.on.ca/
Autrement, il y a des locations de cabanes dans des vilages autour du parc.
Autrement voir là : https://www.ontarioparks.com/roofedaccommodation/fr
bonjour,
il y a la région de la Baie Georgienne sur le lac Huron
www.bonjourbaiegeorgienne.com/
il y a la région de la Baie Georgienne sur le lac Huron
www.bonjourbaiegeorgienne.com/
Le Prince Edwards County a visiter.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
salut,
Je n'y suis jamais allé mais j'en ai beaucoup entendu parler : les SandBanks (https://www.ontarioparks.com/park/sandbanks/fr)
"Homme libre, toujours tu chériras la mer" (Baudelaire)
Bonjour,
Peut être Wasaga Beach dans un aller retour à la Baie Géorgienne sans oublier l'arrêt à ce très beau musée sur l'art canadien, le McMichael Canadian Art Collection qui est sur votre route.
Allez passer une journée à Elmira et à St. Jacobs chez les Mennonites un jour de marché: http://www.stjacobs.com/farmers-market
Dans vos déplacements en auto attention quand même à l'autoroute électronique 407 sans péage visuels. Mais ça vos hôtes vous le diront sûrement.
Au lieu de votre break à NYC, pourquoi ne pas venir dans la capitale du pays puis au Québec où la cabane sur le bord du lac pourrait devenir réalité ici:
http://www.fairmont.fr/montebello/
Prenez le temps de regarder les photos de l'endroit avant le prix 😉 C'est ce que vous coûterait le prix des billets d'avion pour NYC.
Enfin, À Niagara Falls traverser du côté américain pour magasiner aux outlets après avoir profité du point de vue américain sur les chutes.
McMichael Canadian Art CollectionMcMichael Canadian Art Collection
Peut être Wasaga Beach dans un aller retour à la Baie Géorgienne sans oublier l'arrêt à ce très beau musée sur l'art canadien, le McMichael Canadian Art Collection qui est sur votre route.
Allez passer une journée à Elmira et à St. Jacobs chez les Mennonites un jour de marché: http://www.stjacobs.com/farmers-market
Dans vos déplacements en auto attention quand même à l'autoroute électronique 407 sans péage visuels. Mais ça vos hôtes vous le diront sûrement.
Au lieu de votre break à NYC, pourquoi ne pas venir dans la capitale du pays puis au Québec où la cabane sur le bord du lac pourrait devenir réalité ici:
http://www.fairmont.fr/montebello/
Prenez le temps de regarder les photos de l'endroit avant le prix 😉 C'est ce que vous coûterait le prix des billets d'avion pour NYC.
Enfin, À Niagara Falls traverser du côté américain pour magasiner aux outlets après avoir profité du point de vue américain sur les chutes.
McMichael Canadian Art CollectionMcMichael Canadian Art Collection
Merci vraiment pour tous ces conseils, je vais regarder cela avec attention!
A force de lire sur le forum que Toronto n'est pas un passage obligé quand on vient au Canada et que la ville n'a pas grand intérêt je commençais à me demander si nous avions fait un bon choix...
Musée Ford à Detroit
Ann Arbor ville universitaire du Michigan
NY & Floride 2018
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Ouest USA 2014 : LV Valley of Fire Zion Bryce Lake Powell MV G.Canyon Route66 Death Valley Yosemite SF LA San Diego
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A force de lire sur le forum que Toronto n'est pas un passage obligé quand on vient au Canada et que la ville n'a pas grand intérêt je commençais à me demander si nous avions fait un bon choix...
c'est certain...à part monter en haut de la CN Tower , Queen Street on en fait vite le tour. Donc oui le parc d'Algonquin par exemple c'est une bonne alternative.
c'est certain...à part monter en haut de la CN Tower , Queen Street on en fait vite le tour. Donc oui le parc d'Algonquin par exemple c'est une bonne alternative.
autres suggestion:
Beamsville Bench, des vins de qualité surprenants.
A Guelph: La brasserie Sleeman. Producteur de Bière artisanale depuis 1850. Dites bonjours à mon ami John Sleeman, le petit-petit-petit-petit fils du fondateur.
Oakville: En banlieue sud immédiate de Toronto. Quartiers intéressants, commercial ''haut de gamme'' des restaurants hord de l'ordinaire.
Square One: Pour toutes vos envies de ''shopping''. 400+ magasins de toutes sortes.
Manitoulin...une petite croisière dans les iles au lac Huron
La vie est trop belle pour être petite.
Musée Ford à Detroit
Ann Arbor ville universitaire du Michigan
Ben oui, le musée Ford.😉
Ben oui, le musée Ford.😉
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Vous allez vous rendre compte que non on ne fait pas le tour de Toronto si vite que ça quand on a d'autres intérêts que la Tour et le quartier chinois (ouach).
On a eu récemment (un ou deux mois en arrière, pas plus) sur le forum un compte-rendu très intéressant avec photos intelligemment annotées au point que l'envie d'y retourner s'est manifesté.
J'ajoute le zoo qui mérite la visite pour ses pandas.
Tapez dans le moteur de recherche Lisedenise: elle a donné de très bons conseils pour savoir quoi visiter dans la Ville-Reine qu'elle a d'ailleurs déjà habitée.
Vous ne regretterez pas votre choix.
http://www.grandtoronto.ca
Rien de vous empêche de questionner torontois.com
Et si vous voulez un peu de bleu, blanc, rouge: http://torontobastilleday.com/accueil/
On a eu récemment (un ou deux mois en arrière, pas plus) sur le forum un compte-rendu très intéressant avec photos intelligemment annotées au point que l'envie d'y retourner s'est manifesté.
J'ajoute le zoo qui mérite la visite pour ses pandas.
Tapez dans le moteur de recherche Lisedenise: elle a donné de très bons conseils pour savoir quoi visiter dans la Ville-Reine qu'elle a d'ailleurs déjà habitée.
Vous ne regretterez pas votre choix.
http://www.grandtoronto.ca
Rien de vous empêche de questionner torontois.com
Et si vous voulez un peu de bleu, blanc, rouge: http://torontobastilleday.com/accueil/
salut,
Souvent les gens ''couplent'' Toronto avec les Niagara, et donc Toronto n'est alors ''qu'une base arrière'' pour visiter les Niagaras. Si en plus on prévoit de visiter le Québec, alors Toronto n'est qu'une ''brève'' halte, l'essentiel du séjour étant concentré sur le Québec.
Pourtant Toronto a beaucoup à offrir, la preuve avec ces 2 comptes rendus :
http://voyageforum.com/discussion/carnet-voyage-canada-ontario-quebec-en-aout-2014-d6975002/
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7392623;#7392623
Donc quoiqu'en pensent certains, Toronto c'est pas juste la CN Tower 😄
Donc quoiqu'en pensent certains, Toronto c'est pas juste la CN Tower 😄
"Homme libre, toujours tu chériras la mer" (Baudelaire)
Merci à tous pour ces précieux conseils et vos réponses si rapides, c'est top!
Entre Ottawa, Quebec et Montreal, laquelle des 3 conseillez vous en complément de Toronto?
Eh !
Vs avez regardé les distances au CANADA...
Si vs voulez aller à QUEBEC, il y a une bonne journée de route aller, plus une pour le retour.
Donc la visite d'une de ces villes vs prendra 3 ou 4 jours au minimum.
A la limite, je dirais que OTTAWA, MONTREAL, QUEBEC sont sur le même trajet et qu'il faudrait faire les 3.
Comme vs voulez aussi aller à NYC et faire un tour sur un lac, je me demande quel interet vs avez à prendre un appart à TORONTO ;Vs n'y serez jamais.
A la limite, je dirais que OTTAWA, MONTREAL, QUEBEC sont sur le même trajet et qu'il faudrait faire les 3.
Comme vs voulez aussi aller à NYC et faire un tour sur un lac, je me demande quel interet vs avez à prendre un appart à TORONTO ;Vs n'y serez jamais.
Justement rien n'est encore figé pour le moment.
Nous voulons explorer Toronto et ses alentours en prenant notre temps + ajouter deux trips un premier plus "nature" et un autre avec une 2eme ville (NY ou une autre ville canadienne).
Nous sommes 3 semaines sur place, ça laisse à la fois le temps de voir autre chose que Toronto mais nous ne voulons pas passer non plus notre temps dans une voiture, d'autant plus que nous avons deux jeunes enfants.
A la relecture de mon message, je trouve que j'ai été très sec...
Excusez moi ...
TORONTO est une grande ville, et il y a pas mal de choses à voir et à faire dans l'agglomération même. Ensuite, vs avez les chutes, qui vs prendront une journée.
Autrement, vs avez eu pas mal d'idées de visites. Attention tout de même que la plupart vs demanderont au moins une nuit sur place. Voir deux, si c'est une ville à visiter (OTTAWA).
TORONTO est une grande ville, et il y a pas mal de choses à voir et à faire dans l'agglomération même. Ensuite, vs avez les chutes, qui vs prendront une journée.
Autrement, vs avez eu pas mal d'idées de visites. Attention tout de même que la plupart vs demanderont au moins une nuit sur place. Voir deux, si c'est une ville à visiter (OTTAWA).
Hello Marjo!
Pour accéder à la nature en Ontario depuis Toronto, il faut prévoir quelques heures de route. Les parcs que j'ai préféré "près" de Toronto sont: - Killarney Park - Algonquin Park - Tobermory et Bruce Peninsula - Awenda Provincial Park On peut passer plusieurs jours sans problème dans les 2 premiers parcs.
Il y a pas mal de cabanes en forêt/près de lacs à louer en Ontario, mais attention les réservations durant juillet/août se font en grande majorité à la semaine et les places partent très rapidement. A Tobermory nous avions loué une cabane près du village et donc pas en pleine nature, mais le soir on ne voit pas la différence :) http://www.wirelessbaycottages.com/ Des amis ont adoré leur séjour à http://www.millersfamilycamp.com/ au pied du lac.
Nous avions fait le trajet Toronto/NYC en bus et je ne recommenderai pas, tout du moins pas par l'autoroute. Ça peut être très sympa en mode s'arrêtant à certains endroits mais d'une seule traite ça sera beaucoup d'autoroute et pas grand chose à voir.
Bonnes vacances!
Pour accéder à la nature en Ontario depuis Toronto, il faut prévoir quelques heures de route. Les parcs que j'ai préféré "près" de Toronto sont: - Killarney Park - Algonquin Park - Tobermory et Bruce Peninsula - Awenda Provincial Park On peut passer plusieurs jours sans problème dans les 2 premiers parcs.
Il y a pas mal de cabanes en forêt/près de lacs à louer en Ontario, mais attention les réservations durant juillet/août se font en grande majorité à la semaine et les places partent très rapidement. A Tobermory nous avions loué une cabane près du village et donc pas en pleine nature, mais le soir on ne voit pas la différence :) http://www.wirelessbaycottages.com/ Des amis ont adoré leur séjour à http://www.millersfamilycamp.com/ au pied du lac.
Nous avions fait le trajet Toronto/NYC en bus et je ne recommenderai pas, tout du moins pas par l'autoroute. Ça peut être très sympa en mode s'arrêtant à certains endroits mais d'une seule traite ça sera beaucoup d'autoroute et pas grand chose à voir.
Bonnes vacances!
Bonjour Marie,
je n'avais pas pris le temps de répondre, je m'en excuse sincèrement et je te remercie pour tous ces conseils.
Notre voyage approche et je me remets donc à fond dans l'organisation du séjour.
Nous avons finalement décidé de nous concentrer sur Toronto et de limiter ensuite les trajets à 2H30 de voiture aller.
Nous ferons un break d'un long weekend en milieu de séjour pour New York City car c'est sur notre top list de voyage et je ne pense pas que nous retraverserons l'atlantique tout de suite donc nous faisons d'une pierre deux coups (ne soyez pas vexés amis canadiens).
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!