Un mois au Laos: trajets / temps
by Roxy5733
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
je part le mois d'aout au Laos avec 2 amies. Nous sommes en train de faire notre itinéraire au plus précis avec les visites, les temps de trajet etc
Nous avons donc plusieurs questions:
-la boucle de thakhek sur 5 jours comporte beaucoup de grottes, est ce faisable en aout avec la moisson? ou l'eau est trop haute et on verra rien? (route impraticable en moto, grottes immergées)
-même question pour les 4000 iles, y en a t ils qui sont immergées ou ça ne change rien? possibilité de voir des dauphins?
Ensuite nous voulons faire la gibbon expérience à houei sai, notre soucis est pour la suite...on n' a pas beaucoup de temps (1mois pour le Laos c est court!) et on veut en voir un max.
Nous aimerions savoir s'il y a un bus qui fait houei sai à pakmong et si les villages qu'on va louper "n'en valent pas trop la peine".
Nous avons également vu qu il" faut passer" phongsaly mais que pour y aller c est la "galère" bus jusqu à oudom sai attente 1 journée pour l autre bus pour phongsaly. Notre but n'étant pas de passer notre vie dans les moyens de transport on ne sait pas trop si on fait houei sai/oudom sai/phongsaly ou si on "zape" le village pour gagner du temps et profiter de Muang ngoi /luang prabang/phonsavan...
Aprés le choix va peut etre se faire autrement si les grottes sont invisitables on "gagne" 5 jours bref le tout est un peu lié.
Je vous remercie par avance, en espérant que vous aurez des réponses.
Salut,
-la boucle de thakhek sur 5 jours comporte beaucoup de grottes, est ce faisable en aout avec la moisson? ou l'eau est trop haute et on verra rien? (route impraticable en moto, grottes immergées)
Tu n'as absolument pas besoin de 5 jours ! Normalement elle se fait en 3 nuits à l'extérieur et 4 jours. en gros : jour 1 = Départ, Jour 2 = 2 eme étape, 3eme - jour mini étape, 4eme: retour à la mi journée Thakhek.
Perso, comme la plupart je l'ai faite en 3 jours seulement et j'en rends compte là (A partir de la page 3 et 4)
La route est intégralement goudronnée aujourd'hui donc bien sûr à part quelques défauts ponctuels genre nid de poule, elle est faisable durant la mousson et... justement c'est la plus belle saison pour s'émerveiller du vert des rizières !!
En revanche, seul le "blue lagoon" de l'étape 2 n'était pas accessible à cause de la mousson mais... ca n'a pas grand intérêt au vu de tout ce qu'il y a à voir !!
Regarde mon lien avec les conseils que je donne et qui je pense sont sincères et bons (faire la boucle dans l'autre sens, et passer plus de temps quitte à rajouter une journée, dans les environs de Ban Thalang notamment !)
Je ne suis pas allé aux 4000 iles mais des voyageurs rencontrés lors du voyage et avec qui je suis resté en contact y sont allés et ont profité là encore de la beauté des lieux en période de mousson.
Ensuite nous voulons faire la gibbon expérience à houei sai, notre soucis est pour la suite...on n' a pas beaucoup de temps (1mois pour le Laos c est court!) et on veut en voir un max. Nous aimerions savoir s'il y a un bus qui fait houei sai à pakmong et si les villages qu'on va louper "n'en valent pas trop la peine". Nous avons également vu qu il" faut passer" phongsaly mais que pour y aller c est la "galère" bus jusqu à oudom sai attente 1 journée pour l autre bus pour phongsaly. Notre but n'étant pas de passer notre vie dans les moyens de transport on ne sait pas trop si on fait houei sai/oudom sai/phongsaly ou si on "zape" le village pour gagner du temps et profiter de Muang ngoi /luang prabang/phonsavan...
Pour la Gibbon expérience ... je ne sais pas ce que ca vaut mais je sais juste que c'est assez cher. Autre piste e réflexion, je sais qu'il y a le même type d'activité au sud de Thakhek vers Pakse (je pense, faut regarder n'importe quel guide !) ce qui peut être une étape agréable en descendant vers les 4000 iles.
EN revanche, à confirmer par d'autres, mais... les trecks en aout sont ultra galères... justement à cause de la mousson. Nous avions croisé un couple qui avait fait un treck vers Pongsaly de 3 jours... qui avait duré 4 car ils étaient restés bloqués avec leur guide à cause de déchainement d'un ruisseau transformé en rivière tumultueuse... Ils étaient en tour du monde et avait fait le camp de base de l'Everest et nous disait qu'ils avaient trouvé leur treck au Laos plus dur ! Boue... (ca pèse), sangsues partout, condition climatiques etc...
J'avais pris tous ces éléments en compte avant départ et j'avais renoncé à trecker au Nord Laos à cette saison... surtout quand on sait qu'en cas de pépin... il n'y a aucun hopital jusqu'en..... Thailande !
EN revanche, nous avions adoré notre journée "treck" aux alentours de Muang Ngoi, et justement, je m'y serais bien baladé un jour de plus !!!
Regarde mon carnet qui vous donne un itinéraire complet avec temps de passage jusqu'à la boucle de Thakhek. N'étant parti que 3 semaines, j'avais alors volé directement pour la Thailande mais ... du coup, en 1 mois, vous aurez le temps de descendre tranquilement jusqu'aux 4000 iles pour en profiter un peu :)
-la boucle de thakhek sur 5 jours comporte beaucoup de grottes, est ce faisable en aout avec la moisson? ou l'eau est trop haute et on verra rien? (route impraticable en moto, grottes immergées)
Tu n'as absolument pas besoin de 5 jours ! Normalement elle se fait en 3 nuits à l'extérieur et 4 jours. en gros : jour 1 = Départ, Jour 2 = 2 eme étape, 3eme - jour mini étape, 4eme: retour à la mi journée Thakhek.
Perso, comme la plupart je l'ai faite en 3 jours seulement et j'en rends compte là (A partir de la page 3 et 4)
La route est intégralement goudronnée aujourd'hui donc bien sûr à part quelques défauts ponctuels genre nid de poule, elle est faisable durant la mousson et... justement c'est la plus belle saison pour s'émerveiller du vert des rizières !!
En revanche, seul le "blue lagoon" de l'étape 2 n'était pas accessible à cause de la mousson mais... ca n'a pas grand intérêt au vu de tout ce qu'il y a à voir !!
Regarde mon lien avec les conseils que je donne et qui je pense sont sincères et bons (faire la boucle dans l'autre sens, et passer plus de temps quitte à rajouter une journée, dans les environs de Ban Thalang notamment !)
Je ne suis pas allé aux 4000 iles mais des voyageurs rencontrés lors du voyage et avec qui je suis resté en contact y sont allés et ont profité là encore de la beauté des lieux en période de mousson.
Ensuite nous voulons faire la gibbon expérience à houei sai, notre soucis est pour la suite...on n' a pas beaucoup de temps (1mois pour le Laos c est court!) et on veut en voir un max. Nous aimerions savoir s'il y a un bus qui fait houei sai à pakmong et si les villages qu'on va louper "n'en valent pas trop la peine". Nous avons également vu qu il" faut passer" phongsaly mais que pour y aller c est la "galère" bus jusqu à oudom sai attente 1 journée pour l autre bus pour phongsaly. Notre but n'étant pas de passer notre vie dans les moyens de transport on ne sait pas trop si on fait houei sai/oudom sai/phongsaly ou si on "zape" le village pour gagner du temps et profiter de Muang ngoi /luang prabang/phonsavan...
Pour la Gibbon expérience ... je ne sais pas ce que ca vaut mais je sais juste que c'est assez cher. Autre piste e réflexion, je sais qu'il y a le même type d'activité au sud de Thakhek vers Pakse (je pense, faut regarder n'importe quel guide !) ce qui peut être une étape agréable en descendant vers les 4000 iles.
EN revanche, à confirmer par d'autres, mais... les trecks en aout sont ultra galères... justement à cause de la mousson. Nous avions croisé un couple qui avait fait un treck vers Pongsaly de 3 jours... qui avait duré 4 car ils étaient restés bloqués avec leur guide à cause de déchainement d'un ruisseau transformé en rivière tumultueuse... Ils étaient en tour du monde et avait fait le camp de base de l'Everest et nous disait qu'ils avaient trouvé leur treck au Laos plus dur ! Boue... (ca pèse), sangsues partout, condition climatiques etc...
J'avais pris tous ces éléments en compte avant départ et j'avais renoncé à trecker au Nord Laos à cette saison... surtout quand on sait qu'en cas de pépin... il n'y a aucun hopital jusqu'en..... Thailande !
EN revanche, nous avions adoré notre journée "treck" aux alentours de Muang Ngoi, et justement, je m'y serais bien baladé un jour de plus !!!
Regarde mon carnet qui vous donne un itinéraire complet avec temps de passage jusqu'à la boucle de Thakhek. N'étant parti que 3 semaines, j'avais alors volé directement pour la Thailande mais ... du coup, en 1 mois, vous aurez le temps de descendre tranquilement jusqu'aux 4000 iles pour en profiter un peu :)
Si l'on ne meurt qu'une fois...alors vivons à l'infini!
salut,
merci pour ta réponse, elle nous a bien aidé j'ai refais un peu plus précisément le trajet.
J'ai lu tout ton voyage au Laos (je pense lire la suite des pays par la suite) vraiment bien détaillé ça fait plaisir et me donne d'autant plus envie d y aller!!!
Par contre vous l'avez fait en 3 semaines, nous on a un mois mais on arrive et repart de l aéroport de Vientiane , du coup on perd du temps à faire "l aller/retour" donc soit commencer par le sud et tout remonter pour voir le nord soit l'inverse. Dans tous les cas c'est de la perte de temps de transport mais bon nous n'avons pas trop le choix. En plus de ça nous voulons vraiment faire la Gibbon expérience (c est le premier point que m'a "vendu" mon amie pour le choix de notre destination) donc 3 jours, et il y a les pleines de Jarre, le circuit Bolovens, les 4000 iles bref la semaine en plus de vous ne sera pas de trop! d'où le fait que l on va devoir faire des choix.
En tous cas encore un grand merci!
Sinon tu as un vol quotidien de Vientiane à huay xai (direct à la Gibbon) et vous descendez le pays en suivant mon trajet.
Ou alors vol jusqu'à Louang Prabang et bateau jusqu'à huay xai direct.
L idée de ne pas trop revenir sur ses pas est mieux.
Après louang Prabang, arrêt indispensable à Vang Vieng mais vous pouvez faire l impasse de Vientiane et prendre un bus direct de Vang Vieng a Thakkhek (13h30 départ et arrivée à 1h30 du mat sur place mais la thakkhek Travel lodge a l habitude !)
Ensuite : le sud ! Les 4000 îles ! Si vous faites la boucle de takkhek, À mon avis, ce sera inutile de faire le plateau des bolovens, moins agréable selon de nombreux témoignages...
Ensuite vol retour vientiane ou bus de nuit .
La plaine des jarres: j'avais hésité à y aller mais regardez bien les différents commentaires car les avis sont très mitigés... et bon, pour être un fou de l'Inde j'ai déjà eu suffisamment d'occasions de voir de merveilleux vestiges auparavant ;)
Ou alors vol jusqu'à Louang Prabang et bateau jusqu'à huay xai direct.
L idée de ne pas trop revenir sur ses pas est mieux.
Après louang Prabang, arrêt indispensable à Vang Vieng mais vous pouvez faire l impasse de Vientiane et prendre un bus direct de Vang Vieng a Thakkhek (13h30 départ et arrivée à 1h30 du mat sur place mais la thakkhek Travel lodge a l habitude !)
Ensuite : le sud ! Les 4000 îles ! Si vous faites la boucle de takkhek, À mon avis, ce sera inutile de faire le plateau des bolovens, moins agréable selon de nombreux témoignages...
Ensuite vol retour vientiane ou bus de nuit .
La plaine des jarres: j'avais hésité à y aller mais regardez bien les différents commentaires car les avis sont très mitigés... et bon, pour être un fou de l'Inde j'ai déjà eu suffisamment d'occasions de voir de merveilleux vestiges auparavant ;)
Si l'on ne meurt qu'une fois...alors vivons à l'infini!
salut,
encore merci, je n arrive pas à trouver le vol Vientiane/gibbon mais si tu dis qu il existe ça nous arrange pas mal, le seul que j ai trouvé au plus proche c est pour Luang namtha mais du coup encore 5h de bus (théorique)...qu'on refait dans l autre sens aprés notre séjour dans les arbres -_-
Sinan effectivement la boucle des bolovens a moins d interet si on a fait celle de thakkhek avant (c est aussi pour ça que j avais demandé si les grottes et routes étaient accessibles) quite à faire une journée pour la "pose café" suivant où on en est en visite du territoire :)
J'en profite pour te poser d autre questions pratiques:
ton visa tu l as fait en france ou là bas? parceque j ai vu sur certain site qu en france ils peuvent demander à ce qu on soit présent physiquement pour le recupérer ( l aller retour paris pour "un papier" je trouve ça un peut abuser) si on est sur qu il n y a aucun probléme à l aéroport je sens qu on ne va pas se casser la tete.
Pour les vaccins tu penses qu ils sont tous utiles? (rage, typhoide, encephalite japonaise)
Je vais devenir organisateur de voyage au Laos si ça continue !
http://www.laoskyway.com/
Cette compagnie assure des vols quotidiens Vientiane - Houeysai (qui est la ville la plus proche de la Gibbon) et à 759 000 kips ca fait environ 80 €.
Pour le visa, si tu avais lu mon carnet de voyage, tu aurais la réponse...
Pour les vaccins... contacte un médecin !
http://www.laoskyway.com/
Cette compagnie assure des vols quotidiens Vientiane - Houeysai (qui est la ville la plus proche de la Gibbon) et à 759 000 kips ca fait environ 80 €.
Pour le visa, si tu avais lu mon carnet de voyage, tu aurais la réponse...
Pour les vaccins... contacte un médecin !
Si l'on ne meurt qu'une fois...alors vivons à l'infini!
tu me diras c est un bon plan organisateur de voyage...nan désolé
merci pour le site, effectivement il existe, c est peut etre parce que j avais mis des dates trop éloigné (pour avoir une idée de tarif hors saison) qu il ne me trouvait pas de vol.
J'ai lu ton carnet de voyage sur le laos mais j avais zapé la premiére partie (n arrivant pas de l autre coté de la frontiére) mais ok, visa sur place.
Je sais que pour les vaccins il faut demandé au médecin, mais en soit il n y en n a pas d obligatoire à part les basiques, c était plus pour la probabilité de se faire mordre par un chien errant pour la rage, t as croisé 3 pauvres moustiques mais c est pas forcement une généralité donc j aurai plus tendance à me faire vacciner pour ça.
En tout cas encore merci ça m a bien aidé.
Bonne route à toi
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For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod





