Real perception of Myanmar
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Hi everyone,

I’m posting this because in about two weeks, my wife and I want to go to Myanmar. Ever since the country opened up, we’ve really wanted to visit. However, I’m wondering if there’s too much hype about it. Everywhere you read that it’s authentic, not too touristy, really different, etc. So I’m worried we might be getting our hopes up too high and risk being disappointed if it’s not the case. Because despite everything, it’s become a very popular destination in Asia, and a lot of tourists are heading there.

I’d love to hear your general thoughts. Were you disappointed? Or was it exactly what you expected?

Because if all this enthusiasm is a bit exaggerated, maybe we’ll choose another country instead.

Thanks in advance! :)
CY CyrilleG Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

Burma is definitely the Southeast Asian country I loved the most. But it’s hard to say what a trip there looks like today—I went in 2005... (and just to clarify, Burma hasn’t *recently* opened up; it’s been possible to travel there for a long time). Back then, there were very few tourists—things must’ve changed, but I doubt the country is as touristy as its neighbors. Apparently, Myanmar had 4.5 million visitors in 2015, compared to 32.5 million in Thailand.

So, whether it feels "too touristy" really depends on your own reference point...

Because if all this hype is a bit exaggerated, maybe we’ll just go somewhere else.

Hmm. I don’t really get it. We go places because *we* want to, right? Not because strangers (whose tastes or travel styles we don’t even know) liked it or not.
FR Franklenfant Veteran ·
Because if all this hype is a bit exaggerated in the end, maybe we’ll just go to another country.

Hmm. I don’t really get it...

For my part, I totally get it... “visiting a country” says it all

and boom, I add one... nah, two stamps to my passport...😕
CC Cckhumbu Regular ·
good evening

I’m currently in Myanmar. To answer the question—yes, there are tourists, but since it’s not peak season right now, it’s still manageable. Even when you do run into other travelers, it’s not that bad. I’ve even been able to visit pagodas and temples in Bagan and met more locals than tourists. That said, if you go for sunrise or sunset, it *is* crowded (that’s actually where I’ve seen the most people, or at the hotel).

But hey, if you decide to visit a country, there are bound to be tourists. Personally, I chose to come now before it gets even more crowded. I think it’s a shame to skip a place just because of tourists. That’s just my take!

chrystelle
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

There are six to ten times fewer tourists than in Thailand, and yet I much prefer Thailand. Goes to show, it's all relative. What you should tell yourself is: I’ll go now instead of later, when there’ll be three times as many tourists."
BA BapCec Regular ·
Just to let you know, we're on an 8-month trip across Asia. We've already been to several countries, and the reason I'm asking this is because we've just been to Cambodia, which we didn't really enjoy.

Since we're traveling on a tight budget, it's really frustrating to end up in a country that isn't pleasant. Cambodia cost us quite a bit (more than all the other countries we've visited), and if we decide to buy flight tickets for Myanmar and pay for those super expensive visas, we really want to be sure we'll like it. While it's impossible to know for sure in advance, Myanmar is the country we're most unsure about what to expect.

It's obvious we'll encounter tourists there, and that's not a deal-breaker. But that's exactly why we want to know what to expect. Myanmar seems to be a country of many fantasies when you read blogs or watch documentaries.

And while I'm convinced I'll like it, I'm afraid I might have been too influenced by everything that's said about it.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
My wife and I much preferred northern Laos, Vietnam, and Thailand over Myanmar and Cambodia. Thailand and Vietnam are better in terms of prices than Laos. Myanmar is really cheap, but the food isn’t great at all.

There’s a bit of a "trendy" vibe with Myanmar, and if you criticize it, some people act like you’re a heretic. I never blindly follow those kinds of trends. You can check out my travel journals for these destinations by clicking on my username.
KR Kristofe Globetrotter ·
Hi there, If you didn’t enjoy Cambodia with Angkor or Tonlé Sap (if I’m not mistaken), it’s pretty much certain you won’t like Bagan and Inle Lake—two of Burma’s main tourist spots. And if you thought Cambodia was expensive, I’d steer clear of Burma, where accommodation prices are even higher.
EC Ecureuil47 ·
Good evening,

For me, I love Thailand for its landscapes, its beaches, and how easy it is to adapt. Sri Lanka with its stunning landscapes, wildlife, and flora, and its people. Cambodia isn’t as "beautiful"—the beaches aren’t amazing, and the wildlife and flora aren’t mind-blowing... yet it’s the country I prefer, for its people. I can’t explain it; it’s just how I feel 😐
SO Solene40 Globetrotter ·
Hi Guardiani,

I think the travel journal I made last year should answer some of your questions: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7437125;#7437125

That said, I can’t tell you if you’ll like it or not! Even when we visit the same places, we never have the same experience.

I think it’s a country for those who love real culture shock and for whom connecting with locals is essential.

For me, it was one of the most beautiful discoveries of my life as a traveler 😉

While I’m at it, I’d be really interested to know what you didn’t like about Cambodia because I’m planning to go there next year!

Thanks in advance for your reply, and happy thinking!

Christelle
BA BapCec Regular ·
Thanks everyone, I’m reading your messages with a lot of attention and interest. It’s true that as it’s becoming the trendy destination, it’s only natural to have questions—though it’s probably not for nothing either. The country’s recent opening brings a lot of mystery. It’s a bit like if North Korea opened up to tourism; I’d be the first to want to go, without really knowing if I’d actually like it in the end.

After checking accommodation prices on Agoda and Booking, it’s pushing me even more not to go to this country. We’re trying not to exceed a budget of 10-11 € per night, and prices climb quickly in Myanmar. We’ve just been to Cambodia and Laos, two countries that had a certain impact on our finances (Laos much less, though). With the visa cost, I doubt it’s a good idea for us right now. Of course, the longer we wait, the more we risk losing that authenticity. And I don’t doubt for a second that it’s a wonderful country.

I console myself by thinking we experienced a real change of scenery and an amazing trip in Sri Lanka, that the people in Laos are really friendly, and that the landscapes in northern Vietnam are among the most beautiful we’ve ever seen. Every country is different, of course, but hey, we do what we can ;)

About Cambodia, the people are very nice too—that’s not the issue. The main thing is that we came from northern Vietnam, and suddenly, in terms of landscape, we lost a lot. It’s so flat; from east to west or south (we didn’t go north), you see the same scenery. Plus, we always try to eat in little local spots with the locals during our travels. We’ve always managed to do that—except in Cambodia. Hygiene often put us off, and the smells were hard to handle. Everywhere, there’s a strong smell of grilled food mixed with sewage. So after 15 days, we decided to head to Laos earlier than planned.

That said, we met quite a few people who loved the country—everyone’s experience is different. Ours wasn’t great. Solene40, I hope you have a better experience than we did and that you’ll love the country! :)
DA Daisyone Globetrotter ·
It’s really pointless to ask for opinions from people you don’t know. How can anyone give you advice when they don’t know you either? Reducing everything to money, especially in Southeast Asia, is a bit sad, and I’m being polite—it’s one of the cheapest regions on the planet, which explains the number of tourists. If you look around locally, you can find great places to stay and eat for very little, but these spots aren’t on Booking. I’d recommend going to Bagan, and if you really don’t like it, well… that’s disheartening. Otherwise, just continue your journey through Myanmar.
KR Kristofe Globetrotter ·
There’s really no point in asking for opinions from people you don’t know. How can anyone give you advice when they don’t know you either? Reducing everything to money, especially in Southeast Asia, is a bit sad—I’m being polite here—knowing it’s one of the cheapest regions on the planet, which explains the number of tourists. If you look locally, you can easily find accommodation and food for very little, but those places aren’t on Booking. I’d recommend going to Bagan, and if you really don’t like it, well… that’s just disheartening. Otherwise, you can continue your journey through Myanmar.

Couldn’t agree more. I’d even take it further—if you can afford a flight ticket costing several hundred euros to go to Asia, you shouldn’t be nickel-and-diming over 15 or 20 € for a hotel room. Travel around France a bit, and you’ll see whether the cost of living is higher or lower than in Myanmar, Cambodia, or Laos.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Sometimes I think about how some people pay 600 € for their flight ticket and still have a 7,000 € budget for their stay in a country, while others, after buying the same ticket, only have 600 € left to spend on the ground. More often than not, it’s young people, but not exclusively.

The privileged ones are those who at least have the financial and physical means to travel.
KR Kristofe Globetrotter ·
Absolutely. But with 600 €, while we're at it, you can spend three weeks in Myanmar. Try doing the same in France, Belgium, or Switzerland with hotels, transportation, and meals.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Ah, that’s exactly why I’ll meet you in Bangkok instead of Courchevel or Monte Carlo.

To be honest, even if I were much wealthier, it’d still be the case...
FR Franklenfant Veteran ·
To be honest, even if much wealthier, it would be the same...

Besides, Mr. Nicolas Sarkozy goes on vacation to Phuket—enough said...

As for Burma, there’s one question that’s been completely overlooked; so I’ll give you the answer 😛; if you don’t like pogroms, don’t go to Burma. Buddhism, the other religion of love and peace, regularly targets Muslims—and not in a peaceful way. Destruction of property and murders are commonplace there, with the blessing of Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi, who has never once spoken out against it.

"Silence means consent," doesn’t it?
BA BapCec Regular ·
Thanks to everyone for your replies. We could have left it at that, but honestly, when people judge me without knowing me, it tends to annoy me.

Dear Daisyone, if you're lucky enough to live in the lap of luxury and hold that kind of discourse, good for you, but unfortunately, that’s not our case :) As I always say, I think traveling is a lifestyle choice, not just luck. No matter your budget, you can find a way to travel—maybe not exactly how you’d like, but still. We’re on a several-month trip in Asia, for which we gave up our apartment, and we continue to work remotely to fund it. But since we don’t earn much money, we really feel the difference between a room at 10 € and one at 15 €. It’s not about a 2-week trip; it’s several months. Over that kind of time, it makes a real difference. But let’s be clear, I’m not complaining at all. I’m already so happy to be traveling—rooms at 5 € or 10 € suit me just fine! That said, I find the judgment implying we’re freeloaders completely exaggerated. You know nothing about our finances.

I’ll add that if I’m so attached to Booking or Agoda, it’s because my partner is autistic (Asperger’s). I invite you to read this article to understand what that means: http://bapetcec.com/cec-et-le-syndrome-d-asperger/. The unexpected is very stressful for her, and there’s already so much of it. At least the internet lets us manage things in advance. I didn’t mention this in my original post because I didn’t think I’d have to pull out my credentials just to get opinions.

Finally, you ask how you can help me when we don’t know each other. Gosh, should we shut down all internet forums then? Isn’t that the point—to ask strangers for help? Isn’t that what VF is for?

In the end, we won’t be heading to Myanmar after all. It’ll be for a future trip when we’re better prepared. We’re currently in Vietnam and looking for the cheapest next destination.

Thanks to everyone who shared their insights—it was a huge help, even though I don’t know any of you from Adam.
DA Daisyone Globetrotter ·
No, I’m not living in luxury and I’ve been traveling on a tight budget for years. I’m sorry if I offended you—my response was a bit harsh. And, you know, it’s by sharing a little more about your "personalities" that we can better understand your situation.

I have a friend who just spent a month in Burma on a very tight budget, and he managed just fine. But it’s true that he doesn’t book anything in advance and always asks locals for cheap tips on the spot.

Good luck! Have a very good trip! !
KR Kristofe Globetrotter ·
Hi there, You're right, it's exaggerated. Even the enthusiasm is overblown by the Burmese authorities, who announce every year that they want to reach 5 million tourists but never manage to do so. 90% of the travelers on this forum will tell you it's an authentic country or their favorite destination in Asia. Don’t believe them—they’re just doing what everyone else does by saying that. It’s just to be trendy. You're absolutely right to move on; there's nothing to see. Head to Thailand, Vang Vieng in Laos, or Angkor—they're much more authentic.

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