bonjour
je suis en train de construire mon circuit d'une bonne quinzaine de jours en afrique du sud et je n'arrive pas à boucler sans faire énormement de route...on veut évidemment faire un max mais le passage par le swaziland est-il incontournable??
vaut-il mieux faire des réserves privées? addo elephants est-il à faire ou redondant avec Kruger?
santa lucia?? ressent-on l'insécurité partout?
merci de méclairer
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello forum,
We’re a family of 4 adults (2 grown daughters) planning our first trip to South Africa for 3 weeks in August 2025, traveling independently. I’ve been drawing inspiration from several posts on the forum. I’d like to book our flight tickets and nights in Kruger Park as soon as possible since that’s the most urgent part to finalize, if I understood correctly.
Here’s a first draft of our itinerary (with lots of unknowns about what there’ll be to see/do in Eswatini, Lesotho, Durban, etc.—I feel like the Lesotho leg involves a lot of driving).
I’d really appreciate input from the experts to help us craft a great trip. Thanks in advance!
Day 1
Departure from Paris Day 2
Morning Early arrival in Johannesburg Pick up rental car Groceries Afternoon Sightseeing Night in AirBNB near Johannesburg (1/1) Day 3
Morning Drive to Blyde River Canyon (500 km - 6h30) Afternoon Visit the canyon Night in AirBNB near Blyde River Canyon (1/1) Day 4
Morning Drive to central Kruger (200 km - 3h30) Night in Rest Camp (1/2) Day 5
Night in Rest Camp (2/2) Day 6
Morning Drive to southern Kruger (150 km - 3h) Night in Rest Camp (1/3) Day 7
Night in Rest Camp (2/3) Day 8
Night in Rest Camp (3/3) Day 9
Morning Drive to Mbabane (Eswatini) (250 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 10
Morning Drive to Maputaland (300 km - 4h) Afternoon Swimming (hippos and crocs?) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 11
Morning Drive to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi (130 km - 2h) Night in Rest Camp (1/2) Day 12
Night in Rest Camp (2/2) Day 13
Morning Drive to Durban (250 km - 3h) Night in AirBNB (1/1) Day 14
Morning First half of drive to Lesotho (225 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 15
Morning Second half of drive to Lesotho (225 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 16
Morning First half of drive to Drakensberg (250 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 17
Morning Second half of drive to Drakensberg (250 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/2) Day 18
Night in AirBNB or other (2/2) Day 19
Morning Drive to Johannesburg (300 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB (1/2) Day 20
Night in AirBNB (2/2) Day 21
Morning Departure in early afternoon Day 22
Arrival in Paris
We’re a family of 4 adults (2 grown daughters) planning our first trip to South Africa for 3 weeks in August 2025, traveling independently. I’ve been drawing inspiration from several posts on the forum. I’d like to book our flight tickets and nights in Kruger Park as soon as possible since that’s the most urgent part to finalize, if I understood correctly.
Here’s a first draft of our itinerary (with lots of unknowns about what there’ll be to see/do in Eswatini, Lesotho, Durban, etc.—I feel like the Lesotho leg involves a lot of driving).
I’d really appreciate input from the experts to help us craft a great trip. Thanks in advance!
Day 1
Departure from Paris Day 2
Morning Early arrival in Johannesburg Pick up rental car Groceries Afternoon Sightseeing Night in AirBNB near Johannesburg (1/1) Day 3
Morning Drive to Blyde River Canyon (500 km - 6h30) Afternoon Visit the canyon Night in AirBNB near Blyde River Canyon (1/1) Day 4
Morning Drive to central Kruger (200 km - 3h30) Night in Rest Camp (1/2) Day 5
Night in Rest Camp (2/2) Day 6
Morning Drive to southern Kruger (150 km - 3h) Night in Rest Camp (1/3) Day 7
Night in Rest Camp (2/3) Day 8
Night in Rest Camp (3/3) Day 9
Morning Drive to Mbabane (Eswatini) (250 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 10
Morning Drive to Maputaland (300 km - 4h) Afternoon Swimming (hippos and crocs?) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 11
Morning Drive to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi (130 km - 2h) Night in Rest Camp (1/2) Day 12
Night in Rest Camp (2/2) Day 13
Morning Drive to Durban (250 km - 3h) Night in AirBNB (1/1) Day 14
Morning First half of drive to Lesotho (225 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 15
Morning Second half of drive to Lesotho (225 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 16
Morning First half of drive to Drakensberg (250 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/1) Day 17
Morning Second half of drive to Drakensberg (250 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB or other (1/2) Day 18
Night in AirBNB or other (2/2) Day 19
Morning Drive to Johannesburg (300 km - 4h) Night in AirBNB (1/2) Day 20
Night in AirBNB (2/2) Day 21
Morning Departure in early afternoon Day 22
Arrival in Paris
Bonjour!
Si la Covid-19 le permet, nous aimerions passer 3 mois en Afrique du Sud (le pays). Nous y serions du 05 janvier au 5 avril 2021.
Après la lecture du Routard, et la lecture de l’équivalent d’une année de messages sur ce forum, les questions fusent et nous sommes de - en - sûrs de savoir comment départager ces 3 mois...
Avant d’entrer dans le vif du sujet, un peu sur nous:
Aimons nous retrouver dans des milieux naturels, le + loin possible des foules (on est Canadiens, après tout...). On aime voir des animaux sauvages et non pas dressés à donner la papatte ou à prendre la pause.
On aime (et on est habitués) de faire du camping « sauvage » (sans bloc sanitaire ou électricité), mais on peut aussi se résoudre à passer quelques nuits dans un enclos pour humains à l’intérieur des parcs nationaux. Ils sont chez eux, pas nous. On oublie les lodges à 600 euros la nuit.
On est vraiment pas obligés de voir le cap de Bonne-Espérance, Robben Island ou des colonies de manchots... si ça veut dire de faire l’impasse sur des lieux isolés, peu fréquentés mais dignes de détours.
On aime bien louer des voiture question d’aller où bon nous semble, d’avoir nos équipements prêts et à portée de mains, et surtout de pouvoir garder une réserve de nourriture pour les jours (bénis) où il n’y a pas de Walmart à l’horizon...
Nous pensons qu’il serait très sage de laisser tomber la Namibie et le Botswana (autres voyages à venir?) et de se concentrer sur l’Afrique du Sud, mais devrions-nous nécessairement mettre le Lesotho et le eSwatini au programme?
Je pose la question, car ces 2 pays semblent avoir beaucoup à offrir, mais nous risquerions (peut-être) de manquer de temps et beaucoup de belles choses/lieux en Afrique du Sud en contrepartie?!?
Une certitude: nous ne reviendrons PAS dans ce pays pour une seconde visite. Merci, de ne pas demander: pourquoi?
Donc, on inclus ces deux enclaves ou pas?
On a pensé à cet itinéraire mal dégrossi:
Arrivée à Jo’burg, location d’une voiture ou 4 X 4 et faire 1 mois dans le Nord-est (Kruger, entre autre) puis remettre la voiture. Prendre un vol pour Durban ou Port Elizabeth ou Port Edward, louer une voiture et faire moitié-moitié région côtière et intérieur des terres (s’il y a effectivement de quoi se mettre sous la dent, d’autant plus qu’on déteste faire de la plage...) faire 1 mois , remettre la voiture. Prendre un vol pour le Cap, louer une voiture et explorer les grands alentours en 1 mois (s’il y a quelque chose également à se mettre derrière la cravate...) Vol de retour vers Jo’burg.
Un autre itinéraire pourrait comprendre 1 semaine (ou +) au Lesotho et 1 semaine (ou +) au eSwatini et on rognerait 2 semaines (ou +) en Afrique du Sud proprement dite.
Donc, on oublie: plages, visites de vignobles, et réserves animalières avec animaux à toucher qui rugissent sur demande.
Par contre, on prendra bonne note des endroits perdus et hors des sentiers battus que vous avez aimé. Oui, oui... On est sérieux: + c’est éloigné de tout, plus on aime!
On notera aussi les randonnées pédestres guidées ou non, les réserves animalières qui respectent les animaux (si ça existe...).
Désolé, je suis de plus en plus misanthrope, et ça transpire des fois un peu trop...
Bien vôtre
Marc Lamarre
Si la Covid-19 le permet, nous aimerions passer 3 mois en Afrique du Sud (le pays). Nous y serions du 05 janvier au 5 avril 2021.
Après la lecture du Routard, et la lecture de l’équivalent d’une année de messages sur ce forum, les questions fusent et nous sommes de - en - sûrs de savoir comment départager ces 3 mois...
Avant d’entrer dans le vif du sujet, un peu sur nous:
Aimons nous retrouver dans des milieux naturels, le + loin possible des foules (on est Canadiens, après tout...). On aime voir des animaux sauvages et non pas dressés à donner la papatte ou à prendre la pause.
On aime (et on est habitués) de faire du camping « sauvage » (sans bloc sanitaire ou électricité), mais on peut aussi se résoudre à passer quelques nuits dans un enclos pour humains à l’intérieur des parcs nationaux. Ils sont chez eux, pas nous. On oublie les lodges à 600 euros la nuit.
On est vraiment pas obligés de voir le cap de Bonne-Espérance, Robben Island ou des colonies de manchots... si ça veut dire de faire l’impasse sur des lieux isolés, peu fréquentés mais dignes de détours.
On aime bien louer des voiture question d’aller où bon nous semble, d’avoir nos équipements prêts et à portée de mains, et surtout de pouvoir garder une réserve de nourriture pour les jours (bénis) où il n’y a pas de Walmart à l’horizon...
Nous pensons qu’il serait très sage de laisser tomber la Namibie et le Botswana (autres voyages à venir?) et de se concentrer sur l’Afrique du Sud, mais devrions-nous nécessairement mettre le Lesotho et le eSwatini au programme?
Je pose la question, car ces 2 pays semblent avoir beaucoup à offrir, mais nous risquerions (peut-être) de manquer de temps et beaucoup de belles choses/lieux en Afrique du Sud en contrepartie?!?
Une certitude: nous ne reviendrons PAS dans ce pays pour une seconde visite. Merci, de ne pas demander: pourquoi?
Donc, on inclus ces deux enclaves ou pas?
On a pensé à cet itinéraire mal dégrossi:
Arrivée à Jo’burg, location d’une voiture ou 4 X 4 et faire 1 mois dans le Nord-est (Kruger, entre autre) puis remettre la voiture. Prendre un vol pour Durban ou Port Elizabeth ou Port Edward, louer une voiture et faire moitié-moitié région côtière et intérieur des terres (s’il y a effectivement de quoi se mettre sous la dent, d’autant plus qu’on déteste faire de la plage...) faire 1 mois , remettre la voiture. Prendre un vol pour le Cap, louer une voiture et explorer les grands alentours en 1 mois (s’il y a quelque chose également à se mettre derrière la cravate...) Vol de retour vers Jo’burg.
Un autre itinéraire pourrait comprendre 1 semaine (ou +) au Lesotho et 1 semaine (ou +) au eSwatini et on rognerait 2 semaines (ou +) en Afrique du Sud proprement dite.
Donc, on oublie: plages, visites de vignobles, et réserves animalières avec animaux à toucher qui rugissent sur demande.
Par contre, on prendra bonne note des endroits perdus et hors des sentiers battus que vous avez aimé. Oui, oui... On est sérieux: + c’est éloigné de tout, plus on aime!
On notera aussi les randonnées pédestres guidées ou non, les réserves animalières qui respectent les animaux (si ça existe...).
Désolé, je suis de plus en plus misanthrope, et ça transpire des fois un peu trop...
Bien vôtre
Marc Lamarre
Bonjour, je prépare un voyage en Afrique du Sud.
Atterrissage à Johannesburg, direction Blyde River Canyon, Kruger, Swaziland, Santa Lucia, Lesotho et ensuite direction Cap Town en longeant la côte.
J'aurai aimé avoir plus de renseignement sur le temps de route entre Santa Lucia et le Lesotho. J'ai loué une voiture de type ford fiesta mais pas de 4*4. Peut-on faire la route en 1 jour entre Santa Lucia et lesotho (ou je n'ai pas de réservation pour le moment) ou faut il faire une pause entre les deux destinations ?
Bonne journée et merci à tous pour vos réponses
Bonne journée et merci à tous pour vos réponses
Hello everyone!
We’re heading to South Africa this summer (August 11 to September 1) and I’m finalizing our itinerary.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our route and specifically on two points:
- The time spent at each stop: does any seem too short or too long?
- The domestic flights: do you think they’re a good choice? (Flight from Kruger to Durban + Durban to Port Elizabeth) We’ll rent a car each time we land. Or is it better to do the whole trip by car?
Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to take a look!
Have a great day! !
Hi there
We’re planning to do this route as a self-drive trip. There’ll be six of us, so with a large car—is the drive between Durban and Johannesburg manageable? Thanks for your feedback! Day 2: Cape Town Day 3: Cape of Good Hope Day 4: Hermanus, Cape Agulhas Day 5: Wine Route Day 6: Cape Town → Durban (flight) → St. Lucia Day 7: St. Lucia Day 8: Hluhluwe Day 9: Mlilwane Day 10: Sabi Sand Day 11: Sabi Sand Day 12: Kruger Day 13: Panoramic Route Day 14: Balule → Johannesburg
We’re planning to do this route as a self-drive trip. There’ll be six of us, so with a large car—is the drive between Durban and Johannesburg manageable? Thanks for your feedback! Day 2: Cape Town Day 3: Cape of Good Hope Day 4: Hermanus, Cape Agulhas Day 5: Wine Route Day 6: Cape Town → Durban (flight) → St. Lucia Day 7: St. Lucia Day 8: Hluhluwe Day 9: Mlilwane Day 10: Sabi Sand Day 11: Sabi Sand Day 12: Kruger Day 13: Panoramic Route Day 14: Balule → Johannesburg
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi everyone,
It's official—I've got our flight tickets for next October! Two weeks with my 16-year-old son, aiming to see plenty of big animals and birds.
Thanks to all of you for the wealth of information on this site.
After going through a good chunk of the forum and travel journals about South Africa, I think my itinerary is ready...
I’ve planned 2 days with long drives to minimize time spent outside the parks. These are Sunday the 18th: Johannesburg Airport to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve, and Friday the 23rd: St. Lucia to Nelspruit (staying in South Africa) or as close as possible to visit the Canyon the next day.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the itinerary, especially these 2 days—are they doable or not? Should I book in advance, or will there be places to sleep along the way if we don’t make it to our planned destination? What’s the crowd level in South Africa in October?
As for Kruger, I’ve chosen campsites with camping facilities, prioritizing the "satellite" camps, at least in the northern part!! I’ve planned to change camps almost every day to combine travel and wildlife spotting, but is this the right choice?
The itinerary:
Sunday 18th Arrival at 8:50 AM in Johannesburg Drive to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 530 km, 7h20 1 night (18th–19th) at the northern gate
Monday 19th Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 1h30, 50 km 2nd night (19th–20th) southeast of the reserve
Tuesday 20th Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 3rd night (20th–21st) southeast of the reserve or Mpila
Wednesday 21st Reserve and drive to St. Lucia Drive to St. Lucia: 1h, 50 km Crocodile and hippo boat tour at 3 PM 4th night (21st–22nd) in St. Lucia Sugarloaf Campsites
Thursday 22nd Whale-watching tour 7–9 AM (or the next day) Cap Vidal, day trip: 70 km round trip 5th night (22nd–23rd) in St. Lucia Sugarloaf Campsites
Friday 23rd Drive to Nelspruit 541 km, 7h Night in Nelspruit 6th night (23rd–24th) in Graskop
Saturday 24th Blyde River Canyon 150 km, 2h + stops 7th night (24th–25th) at Blyde Canyon Forever Resort
Sunday 25th (Kruger Day 1) Leopard Trail hike: 3h Drive to Kruger, Phalaborwa Gate 136 km, 2h to the park entrance 75 km, 3h to Mopani - Tzende 8th night (25th–26th) Kruger 1: Tsendze
Monday 26th (Kruger Day 2) Drive to Balule: 84 km, 3h20 9th night (26th–27th) Kruger 2: Balule
Tuesday 27th (Kruger Day 3) Drive to Satara: 160 km, 6h25 10th night (27th–28th) Kruger 3: Satara
Wednesday 28th (Kruger Day 4) Kruger 11th night (28th–29th) Kruger 4: Satara
Thursday 29th (Kruger Day 5) Kruger 12th night (29th–30th) Kruger 5: Skukuza
Friday 30th (Kruger Day 6) Kruger 13th night (30th–31st) Kruger 6: Lower Sabi
Saturday 31st (Kruger Day 7) Kruger 14th night (31st–1st) Kruger 7: Berg-en-Dal
Sunday 31st Departure: flight at 9:15 PM (must be at the airport by 6 PM max) Morning in Kruger, then drive 400 km, 5h30—departure by 11 AM max
Thanks in advance for your feedback! Claude
It's official—I've got our flight tickets for next October! Two weeks with my 16-year-old son, aiming to see plenty of big animals and birds.
Thanks to all of you for the wealth of information on this site.
After going through a good chunk of the forum and travel journals about South Africa, I think my itinerary is ready...
I’ve planned 2 days with long drives to minimize time spent outside the parks. These are Sunday the 18th: Johannesburg Airport to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve, and Friday the 23rd: St. Lucia to Nelspruit (staying in South Africa) or as close as possible to visit the Canyon the next day.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the itinerary, especially these 2 days—are they doable or not? Should I book in advance, or will there be places to sleep along the way if we don’t make it to our planned destination? What’s the crowd level in South Africa in October?
As for Kruger, I’ve chosen campsites with camping facilities, prioritizing the "satellite" camps, at least in the northern part!! I’ve planned to change camps almost every day to combine travel and wildlife spotting, but is this the right choice?
The itinerary:
Sunday 18th Arrival at 8:50 AM in Johannesburg Drive to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 530 km, 7h20 1 night (18th–19th) at the northern gate
Monday 19th Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 1h30, 50 km 2nd night (19th–20th) southeast of the reserve
Tuesday 20th Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 3rd night (20th–21st) southeast of the reserve or Mpila
Wednesday 21st Reserve and drive to St. Lucia Drive to St. Lucia: 1h, 50 km Crocodile and hippo boat tour at 3 PM 4th night (21st–22nd) in St. Lucia Sugarloaf Campsites
Thursday 22nd Whale-watching tour 7–9 AM (or the next day) Cap Vidal, day trip: 70 km round trip 5th night (22nd–23rd) in St. Lucia Sugarloaf Campsites
Friday 23rd Drive to Nelspruit 541 km, 7h Night in Nelspruit 6th night (23rd–24th) in Graskop
Saturday 24th Blyde River Canyon 150 km, 2h + stops 7th night (24th–25th) at Blyde Canyon Forever Resort
Sunday 25th (Kruger Day 1) Leopard Trail hike: 3h Drive to Kruger, Phalaborwa Gate 136 km, 2h to the park entrance 75 km, 3h to Mopani - Tzende 8th night (25th–26th) Kruger 1: Tsendze
Monday 26th (Kruger Day 2) Drive to Balule: 84 km, 3h20 9th night (26th–27th) Kruger 2: Balule
Tuesday 27th (Kruger Day 3) Drive to Satara: 160 km, 6h25 10th night (27th–28th) Kruger 3: Satara
Wednesday 28th (Kruger Day 4) Kruger 11th night (28th–29th) Kruger 4: Satara
Thursday 29th (Kruger Day 5) Kruger 12th night (29th–30th) Kruger 5: Skukuza
Friday 30th (Kruger Day 6) Kruger 13th night (30th–31st) Kruger 6: Lower Sabi
Saturday 31st (Kruger Day 7) Kruger 14th night (31st–1st) Kruger 7: Berg-en-Dal
Sunday 31st Departure: flight at 9:15 PM (must be at the airport by 6 PM max) Morning in Kruger, then drive 400 km, 5h30—departure by 11 AM max
Thanks in advance for your feedback! Claude
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out today to gather some great tips for the second part of our trip to South Africa, which will take place from 03/21 to 04/11. We don’t want to rush too much either. We’ll start in Cape Town (tickets already booked) since it seems like a good time to visit this region—except for the whales in Hermanus, which we won’t be seeing. Oh, and I almost forgot, we’re renting a car for both legs of the trip for more freedom.
The first part is planned like this:
- 03/21: Arrival in Cape Town, staying until 03/24 - 03/25: Visit to the Cape, including a stop in Simon’s Town - 2 nights in Stellenbosch from 03/26 to 03/28 - 3 nights in Knysna to explore the area from 03/28 to 03/31 - 03/31: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Durban, where we’ll spend one night in Umhlanga
After that, I’m a bit lost 🙂. Next, I was thinking of doing:
2 nights in St. Lucia 2 nights in Eswatini 4 nights in Kruger Park (2 nights in Skukuza and 2 nights in Balule to visit a private reserve) 1 night at Blyde Canyon 1 night somewhere to get closer to Johannesburg (Graskop?) since we’ll need to return the car by around 11:00 AM on 04/11.
So, does the second part make sense or not? I’ve done quite a bit of research, but I’m still a little lost . We can’t wait to be there, and your valuable advice would be very welcome. Thanks so much in advance, and have a great day! Luis
The first part is planned like this:
- 03/21: Arrival in Cape Town, staying until 03/24 - 03/25: Visit to the Cape, including a stop in Simon’s Town - 2 nights in Stellenbosch from 03/26 to 03/28 - 3 nights in Knysna to explore the area from 03/28 to 03/31 - 03/31: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Durban, where we’ll spend one night in Umhlanga
After that, I’m a bit lost 🙂. Next, I was thinking of doing:
2 nights in St. Lucia 2 nights in Eswatini 4 nights in Kruger Park (2 nights in Skukuza and 2 nights in Balule to visit a private reserve) 1 night at Blyde Canyon 1 night somewhere to get closer to Johannesburg (Graskop?) since we’ll need to return the car by around 11:00 AM on 04/11.
So, does the second part make sense or not? I’ve done quite a bit of research, but I’m still a little lost . We can’t wait to be there, and your valuable advice would be very welcome. Thanks so much in advance, and have a great day! Luis
Hi there,
I know this question has been discussed many times before, but I’d love to hear recent opinions (post-COVID crisis) about tourist safety in South Africa. My husband is offering me the chance to take a self-drive trip in South Africa in July 2025. It’s a dream of mine—we’ve never been to Africa before, but we’ve regularly driven on the left side of the road before ;-) I’ve already booked the hotels and a rental car for a 3-week family trip (my husband and our 19-year-old son). But after talking to some acquaintances, I’ve been warned about the risks of carjacking, theft, scams by fake police, and even kidnapping… basically, a pretty apocalyptic picture of the region!!! I’ve already carefully read the recommendations from embassies and foreign affairs offices. Our itinerary would start at Johannesburg Airport with a rental car, sticking to main roads and avoiding night driving. First stop: Blyde River Canyon (exploring the area), then heading to Kruger National Park (one week), entering through the Numbi or Phabeni Gate and exiting via Crocodile Bridge to reach Eswatini (stopping at Mlilwane Sanctuary) before continuing to St. Lucia (a few days there). From St. Lucia, we’ll go to Durban to catch a flight to Cape Town. There, we’ll spend a few days with a rental car in the Camps Bay area. What do you think? I know there’s no such thing as zero risk (you could even fall out of bed!), but I don’t want to spend the whole trip on edge, constantly worried about being attacked or putting my family in danger. During vacations, we take a lot of photos—I know we shouldn’t flaunt valuables, but photography is a big part of our trips… Should we postpone this trip to a "quieter" time? If you can shed some light, I’d really appreciate it—I’m feeling a bit lost…
I know this question has been discussed many times before, but I’d love to hear recent opinions (post-COVID crisis) about tourist safety in South Africa. My husband is offering me the chance to take a self-drive trip in South Africa in July 2025. It’s a dream of mine—we’ve never been to Africa before, but we’ve regularly driven on the left side of the road before ;-) I’ve already booked the hotels and a rental car for a 3-week family trip (my husband and our 19-year-old son). But after talking to some acquaintances, I’ve been warned about the risks of carjacking, theft, scams by fake police, and even kidnapping… basically, a pretty apocalyptic picture of the region!!! I’ve already carefully read the recommendations from embassies and foreign affairs offices. Our itinerary would start at Johannesburg Airport with a rental car, sticking to main roads and avoiding night driving. First stop: Blyde River Canyon (exploring the area), then heading to Kruger National Park (one week), entering through the Numbi or Phabeni Gate and exiting via Crocodile Bridge to reach Eswatini (stopping at Mlilwane Sanctuary) before continuing to St. Lucia (a few days there). From St. Lucia, we’ll go to Durban to catch a flight to Cape Town. There, we’ll spend a few days with a rental car in the Camps Bay area. What do you think? I know there’s no such thing as zero risk (you could even fall out of bed!), but I don’t want to spend the whole trip on edge, constantly worried about being attacked or putting my family in danger. During vacations, we take a lot of photos—I know we shouldn’t flaunt valuables, but photography is a big part of our trips… Should we postpone this trip to a "quieter" time? If you can shed some light, I’d really appreciate it—I’m feeling a bit lost…
Hi there,
In two months, I’m heading off for 4 weeks with three backpacker friends to South Africa, Lesotho, and Eswatini.
We’ve got our round-trip flight tickets from France to Johannesburg and plan to drive from Johannesburg to Cape Town and back to Johannesburg in an SUV or 4x4.
For other city trips, we’ll use local transport or Uber.
That’s the plan for our transportation.
For the car rental, I’d like to know which company to book with. Can anyone give me some tips on renting a vehicle and crossing into Lesotho and Eswatini?
Next, I’ve put together a rough itinerary that seems good to me, but could you share your experiences and maybe point out any mistakes I’ve made?
Day 1: Arrival in Johannesburg Day 2: Johannesburg (city tour) Day 3: Johannesburg to Cape Town (old town) Day 4: Cape Town (Table Mountain) Day 5: Cape Town (Robben Island + port) Day 6: Cape Town (peninsula: Boulders Beach, Cape of Good Hope) Day 7: Cape Town to Stellenbosch to Franschhoek Day 8: Franschhoek to Greyton to Genadendal to Montagu Day 9: Montagu to Swellendam Day 10: Swellendam to Overberg Day 11: Overberg Day 12: Overberg to George (Garden Route) to Gqeberha (Port Elizabeth) Day 13: Gqeberha to Queenstown to Aliwal North Day 14: Aliwal North to Lesotho (Maseru) Day 15: Lesotho Day 16: Lesotho to Drakensberg Day 17: Drakensberg Day 18: Drakensberg to Durban to St. Lucia Day 19: St. Lucia Day 20: St. Lucia to Eswatini Day 21: Eswatini Day 22: Eswatini to Kruger Day 23: Kruger Day 24: Kruger Day 25: Kruger to Blyde Canyon Day 26: Blyde Canyon to Johannesburg Day 27: Johannesburg Day 28: Johannesburg to France
That’s the plan. Of course, it’d be perfect, but some spots probably deserve more time, while others might be less interesting. I hope you can help me fine-tune this route.
Thanks in advance for your patience and great advice.
Cheers,
Didier
For the car rental, I’d like to know which company to book with. Can anyone give me some tips on renting a vehicle and crossing into Lesotho and Eswatini?
Next, I’ve put together a rough itinerary that seems good to me, but could you share your experiences and maybe point out any mistakes I’ve made?
Day 1: Arrival in Johannesburg Day 2: Johannesburg (city tour) Day 3: Johannesburg to Cape Town (old town) Day 4: Cape Town (Table Mountain) Day 5: Cape Town (Robben Island + port) Day 6: Cape Town (peninsula: Boulders Beach, Cape of Good Hope) Day 7: Cape Town to Stellenbosch to Franschhoek Day 8: Franschhoek to Greyton to Genadendal to Montagu Day 9: Montagu to Swellendam Day 10: Swellendam to Overberg Day 11: Overberg Day 12: Overberg to George (Garden Route) to Gqeberha (Port Elizabeth) Day 13: Gqeberha to Queenstown to Aliwal North Day 14: Aliwal North to Lesotho (Maseru) Day 15: Lesotho Day 16: Lesotho to Drakensberg Day 17: Drakensberg Day 18: Drakensberg to Durban to St. Lucia Day 19: St. Lucia Day 20: St. Lucia to Eswatini Day 21: Eswatini Day 22: Eswatini to Kruger Day 23: Kruger Day 24: Kruger Day 25: Kruger to Blyde Canyon Day 26: Blyde Canyon to Johannesburg Day 27: Johannesburg Day 28: Johannesburg to France
That’s the plan. Of course, it’d be perfect, but some spots probably deserve more time, while others might be less interesting. I hope you can help me fine-tune this route.
Thanks in advance for your patience and great advice.
Cheers,
Didier
Bonjour, grâce à ce formidable forum, j'ai imaginé l'itinérare que nous suivrons en famille pour notre deuxième voyage en Afrique du Sud. Nous sommes un couple d'une quarantaine d'année et nous voyageons avec nos trois enfants de 8 ans, 13 ans et 16 ans. J'aimerais savoir si il n'y a pas d'incohérence ou de mauvais choix. Merci à ceux qui auront la gentillesse de bien vouloir m'éclairer, me rassurer... Bonne journée 22 juillet: Départ de Bruxelles à 18h05
23 juillet : arrivée à Johannesburg à 8h30 , prise de la voiture de location, route et nuit à Harrismith. ( Je stresse un peu pour cette longue route mais difficile de faire autrement sans perdre une journée et en arrivant si tôt).
24 juillet : trajet en passant par bonjaneni randonnée la journée au Royal natal, rando tugela gorge trail, départ parking du thendele. nuit à Bergville au Ledges retreat 25 juillet : départ vers cathedral peak, randonnée la journée nuit didima camp ( des idées de randonnées de 3 ou 4 heures sympas avec des enfants de 8,14 et 16 ans ?) 26 juillet : randonnée didima et nuit 27 juillet : journée de trajet vers Sainte-Lucie, départ tôt le matin, prendre la nationale pour mooi river, greytown, eshowe nuit à manzini holiday resort . ( J'avais pensé couper le trajet en dormant une nuit à Ballito mais je me demande si c'est pertinent sachant qu'il y a la plage à Sainte-Lucie) 28 juillet : à 15 h tour en bateau, nuit à Sainte-Lucie ( une idée d'activité pour le matin ? ) 29 juillet : Cap vidal, isimangaliso, nuit à Sainte-Lucie 30 juillet :hluluwe imfolozi nuit à Mpila camp sortir de hluluwe imfolozi par mémorial gate 31 juillet : trajet vers Mabuda farm et nuit ( J'ai des doutes sur cette étape... elle me semblait bien placée, qqn connait ?, il y a des chouettes activités à faire ?) 1 août : nuit à mabuda farm 2 août : en route vers le Kruger, nuit marloth park 3 août : Kruger, nuit à Biyamiti 4 août : Kruger, nuit à Skukuza 5 août: Kruger, nuit à Talamati 6 août: Kruger nuit à Letaba 7 août : Kruger, nuit à Shimuwini 8 août: Kruger, nuit à bateleur 9 août : Kruger, nuit à Sirheni 10 août :Kruger, nuit à sirheni ( C'est bien deux nuits à Sirheni ? C'est mieux 1 nuit Sirheni et une Punda Maria ?) 11 août : matinée au Kruger et sortie par pafuri gate vers 14 h00 , nuit à Cuckoos Nest guest house à Louis Trichardt. 12 août : Route vers l'aéroport, vol à 19h25 ( J'ai lu que cette route à partir de Louis Trichardt était très dangereuse et meurtrière, des retours ? ) 13 août : arrivée à Bruxelles à 8h55 Je remercie d'avance tous les contributeurs de ce forum, c'est grâce à vous que l'on ose tenter l'aventure en indépendant. Belle journée 🙂
24 juillet : trajet en passant par bonjaneni randonnée la journée au Royal natal, rando tugela gorge trail, départ parking du thendele. nuit à Bergville au Ledges retreat 25 juillet : départ vers cathedral peak, randonnée la journée nuit didima camp ( des idées de randonnées de 3 ou 4 heures sympas avec des enfants de 8,14 et 16 ans ?) 26 juillet : randonnée didima et nuit 27 juillet : journée de trajet vers Sainte-Lucie, départ tôt le matin, prendre la nationale pour mooi river, greytown, eshowe nuit à manzini holiday resort . ( J'avais pensé couper le trajet en dormant une nuit à Ballito mais je me demande si c'est pertinent sachant qu'il y a la plage à Sainte-Lucie) 28 juillet : à 15 h tour en bateau, nuit à Sainte-Lucie ( une idée d'activité pour le matin ? ) 29 juillet : Cap vidal, isimangaliso, nuit à Sainte-Lucie 30 juillet :hluluwe imfolozi nuit à Mpila camp sortir de hluluwe imfolozi par mémorial gate 31 juillet : trajet vers Mabuda farm et nuit ( J'ai des doutes sur cette étape... elle me semblait bien placée, qqn connait ?, il y a des chouettes activités à faire ?) 1 août : nuit à mabuda farm 2 août : en route vers le Kruger, nuit marloth park 3 août : Kruger, nuit à Biyamiti 4 août : Kruger, nuit à Skukuza 5 août: Kruger, nuit à Talamati 6 août: Kruger nuit à Letaba 7 août : Kruger, nuit à Shimuwini 8 août: Kruger, nuit à bateleur 9 août : Kruger, nuit à Sirheni 10 août :Kruger, nuit à sirheni ( C'est bien deux nuits à Sirheni ? C'est mieux 1 nuit Sirheni et une Punda Maria ?) 11 août : matinée au Kruger et sortie par pafuri gate vers 14 h00 , nuit à Cuckoos Nest guest house à Louis Trichardt. 12 août : Route vers l'aéroport, vol à 19h25 ( J'ai lu que cette route à partir de Louis Trichardt était très dangereuse et meurtrière, des retours ? ) 13 août : arrivée à Bruxelles à 8h55 Je remercie d'avance tous les contributeurs de ce forum, c'est grâce à vous que l'on ose tenter l'aventure en indépendant. Belle journée 🙂
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone again 🙂
I was thinking of continuing the questions from my first post, but since the title was changed... I’m starting a new thread
The plane should land on Saturday around 11 AM. After collecting luggage and the car, I think we’ll leave the airport between 1 and 2 PM. Question #1: Where should we stop along the way, allowing some buffer time so we don’t end up driving at night if the flight is delayed? (The idea isn’t to sightsee but just to take a break while making progress toward Kruger.)
We’ll spend part of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday (a little over 4 days) in Kruger. Questions #2 and beyond: What route should we take? I’ve considered two options: either enter from the south (Malelane Gate?) and head north up to the Olifants area to exit at Orpen Gate. How many accommodations should we book in this case, and where? Or enter at Orpen Gate and exit near Hazyview (or the other way around, and near Hazyview, should it be Paul Kruger Gate or Phabeni?). In this case, it would allow us to spend 2 nights in one place and 2 in another, but we’d skip the south (or is it possible to visit it in a day?) Well, for accommodations (accessible by sedan), all suggestions are welcome… but I’ve checked October availability, and there aren’t many left 😕 I plan to spend Thursday in the park and exit before it closes to sleep outside, which would save time the next day for the drive to the airport. I was thinking of Hazyview (again, no sightseeing since we already visited the area in 2009), but do you have another/better idea?
For clarity, here’s a summary of the Kruger part: Day 1: Arrival in Johannesburg and drive to ? Day 2: Enter Kruger (likely late morning or early afternoon) Days 3, 4, and 5: Kruger with exit at the end of Day 5 Day 6: Drive to the airport for the Cape Town and surrounds portion
Regarding Kruger bookings, it seems (I lost my old notes when my hard drive crashed—I backed up work documents but not vacation ones, what a mess!) that you can monitor reservations, and if a preferred accommodation becomes available, you can book it and cancel the old one. Is that still the case? (And is it easy to do?)
Thanks in advance for your answers. I’m off to reread travel journals about Cape Town and will probably be back with more questions (the accommodation availability issue seems less urgent there, so less of a priority).
I was thinking of continuing the questions from my first post, but since the title was changed... I’m starting a new thread
The plane should land on Saturday around 11 AM. After collecting luggage and the car, I think we’ll leave the airport between 1 and 2 PM. Question #1: Where should we stop along the way, allowing some buffer time so we don’t end up driving at night if the flight is delayed? (The idea isn’t to sightsee but just to take a break while making progress toward Kruger.)
We’ll spend part of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday (a little over 4 days) in Kruger. Questions #2 and beyond: What route should we take? I’ve considered two options: either enter from the south (Malelane Gate?) and head north up to the Olifants area to exit at Orpen Gate. How many accommodations should we book in this case, and where? Or enter at Orpen Gate and exit near Hazyview (or the other way around, and near Hazyview, should it be Paul Kruger Gate or Phabeni?). In this case, it would allow us to spend 2 nights in one place and 2 in another, but we’d skip the south (or is it possible to visit it in a day?) Well, for accommodations (accessible by sedan), all suggestions are welcome… but I’ve checked October availability, and there aren’t many left 😕 I plan to spend Thursday in the park and exit before it closes to sleep outside, which would save time the next day for the drive to the airport. I was thinking of Hazyview (again, no sightseeing since we already visited the area in 2009), but do you have another/better idea?
For clarity, here’s a summary of the Kruger part: Day 1: Arrival in Johannesburg and drive to ? Day 2: Enter Kruger (likely late morning or early afternoon) Days 3, 4, and 5: Kruger with exit at the end of Day 5 Day 6: Drive to the airport for the Cape Town and surrounds portion
Regarding Kruger bookings, it seems (I lost my old notes when my hard drive crashed—I backed up work documents but not vacation ones, what a mess!) that you can monitor reservations, and if a preferred accommodation becomes available, you can book it and cancel the old one. Is that still the case? (And is it easy to do?)
Thanks in advance for your answers. I’m off to reread travel journals about Cape Town and will probably be back with more questions (the accommodation availability issue seems less urgent there, so less of a priority).
Hi everyone,
For those who’ve been following me... progress is being made!
Anyway, just to recap for the others: I’m leaving Manyeleti (a private reserve) to do a self-drive safari in the main Kruger Park for 2 nights before heading to Blyde River Canyon (sharing all this so you can picture the route). So Satara seemed like a good base for the safari, except that you can only book accommodation in this non-private park through Sandparks to find a camp. Since Satara is fully booked, the only ones with availability for my dates are:
Tamboti, Olifants, and Satara—wait, no, Satara’s full—so Letaba, sorry! Any thoughts on these camps?
Because I can enter via Orpen and drive north (safari-style), which would let us explore, but:
1/ Too many km if we pick the farthest one, Letaba?
If I leave Manyeleti (Honeyguide Mantobeni) after the morning safari, what time do I need to be at the camp by?
It’s all coming together—I just need to pick the camp based on distance, so thanks to all of you for your invaluable help! Dan
It’s all coming together—I just need to pick the camp based on distance, so thanks to all of you for your invaluable help! Dan
Bonjour
Nous partons mi février avec nos 2 ados (pas vraiment enchantés à priori, j'espère que cela changera sur place😛)
Nous commençons par le cap 4 nuits, puis remontons en vol interne sur Joburg pour le kruger et Blyde.
nos Camps dans le kruger sont : -Berg en dal le 1er soir, mais l'arrivée risque d'être vers la fin d'aprem vu que notre avion atterrit à Joburg à 11h10. -Lower sabie 1 nuit le lendemain -Puis on va faire un tour sur Blyde 2 nuits et retour sur le Kruger (conseil d’Attila de faire une pause hors du parc notamment pour les ados😛 .....) -satara 2 nuits -Olifants 1 nuit puis retour de bonne heure pour reprendre notre vol qui décolle à 23h30 de joburg.
Ma question vous qui connaissez les rest camps : Que me conseillez vous en plus de nos propres sorties ? En walk ou drive avec les rangers, matin ou soir, et à partir de quel rest camp?
Merci d'avance🙂
Nous partons mi février avec nos 2 ados (pas vraiment enchantés à priori, j'espère que cela changera sur place😛)
Nous commençons par le cap 4 nuits, puis remontons en vol interne sur Joburg pour le kruger et Blyde.
nos Camps dans le kruger sont : -Berg en dal le 1er soir, mais l'arrivée risque d'être vers la fin d'aprem vu que notre avion atterrit à Joburg à 11h10. -Lower sabie 1 nuit le lendemain -Puis on va faire un tour sur Blyde 2 nuits et retour sur le Kruger (conseil d’Attila de faire une pause hors du parc notamment pour les ados😛 .....) -satara 2 nuits -Olifants 1 nuit puis retour de bonne heure pour reprendre notre vol qui décolle à 23h30 de joburg.
Ma question vous qui connaissez les rest camps : Que me conseillez vous en plus de nos propres sorties ? En walk ou drive avec les rangers, matin ou soir, et à partir de quel rest camp?
Merci d'avance🙂
Bonjour,
Après ma première dans le Kruger, voilà ce que j'aurais tout simplement aimé savoir pour mon organisation :
Comme tous, j'ai parcouru divers forums afin d'avoir des avis croisés, ce qui n'est pas une sinécure, bon nombre ont tendance à développer leurs propres appréciations, de même que ces avis se transforment parfois en pugilats écrits, toutefois je me dois de remercier les personnes qui ont pris la peine de me donner des avis pertinents, donc :
Tout d’abord, j'ai cherché à comprendre comment fonctionne le système du parc, puisqu'il ne s'agit pas d'un zoo, mais d'une véritable randonnée à travers la brousse...
Le parc est divisé en plusieurs camps, comme on peut le consulter sur leur site Pour un court séjour (mini 2 jours un seul camp), l'idéal 4 à 5 jours, 2 camps est suffisant pour en profiter un max
La circulation dans le parc est très très bien signalisée, la route est parfaite et les pistes tout à fait roulantes même si parfois il y a de la « tôle ondulée » (idéale pour les amateurs d'Orangina)
Dans les camps, il y a plusieurs types d'hébergement, cela va du camping au confortable bungalow, avec clim, frigo, sdb, cuisine, etc...les tarifs et résa sont sur le site sandparc, par contre les réservations sont à faire le plus tôt possible, car elles partent très vite... !
Dans tous les camps il y a une station carburant (ainsi qu'aux portes d'entrées du parc), on y trouve une boutique avec des babioles souvenir et de quoi se nourrir, (excellente bière et vins sudaf) un restaurant, sympa pour le breakfast et les autres repas avec des tarifs très abordables, dans les plus grands camps un point wifi au resto (voire même un DAB à Skukuza) la carte bancaire est acceptée partout sans souci particulier (perso, j'aime bien avoir du liquide pour me achats)
Sur Maps j'ai situé la position géographique du parc par rapport à l'aéroport de Johannesburg (JNB) au vu de la distance et selon l’horaire d'arrivée, mieux vaut prévoir un hôtel entre les 2 (A/R)
J'avais réglé toutes mes réservations à l'avance (bungalows, entrées du parc (une par journée et par personne) les 2 hôtels A/R, la location de la voiture +le gps, (utile surtout pour trouver les hôtels) tout cela nous a fait gagner énormément de temps partout....
En arrivant à JNB,
1-j'ai pris aussitôt une carte SIM pour la semaine chez vodafone, (364zar 22€50) à droite dès l'entrée du hall,
2-ensuite en repartant vers le centre, il y a des bureaux de change, et un DAB où j'ai retiré de l'argent
3-je suis allé au bureau avis prendre ma voiture
Pour info, il y a un semblant de portier à la sortie de l'aéroport coté rentalcar, qui m'a demandé ou j'allais, j'ai répondu avis, aussitôt il a hélé un gus qui est sorti de nul part et m'a dit de le suivre, j'avais compris le truc, le même partout en Afrique, j'ai eu beau lui dire de me foutre la paix, rien à faire, il m'a escorté jusqu'à chez avis soit à 2 pas de la sortie, et a exigé que je lui donne de la monnaie, j'ai réussi péniblement à m'en débarrasser pour retomber par la suite sur un autre qui s'est installé dans la voiture pour me programmer le gps et me renseigner de tout, j'ignore si il était de la maison ou pas, mais il a été récompensé autant que l'autre (je ne suis pas radin, mais le dab ne donne pas de monnaie)
Une fois assis dans la voiture, la 1ère véritable étape était enfin bouclée....(ouf!)
Important, en sortant du parking souterrain, il faut suivre la direction Boksburg fléchée au sol et sur les panneaux, pas évident, parce que les voies se croisent de façon rapprochée, ensuite la route est simple sauf que les conducteurs sont encore plus dangereux que les buffles du parc. Pour ce qui est de la vitesse, notre « Louis Philippe » national s'arracherait les cheveux avec ses 80 km/h, surtout quand on voit un panneau 120 (radar!) sur une section à voie unique et double sens ….. !!!
Pour le retour de la voiture, le plein devant être fait , il y a une station juste à la sortie (!) du parking, celle la même que l'on prend au départ, heureusement il y a une voie de retour vers l'aéroport
Avis est très bien organisé, avec le fléchage dans le parking souterrain, un placeur vous attend, aussitôt stoppé une personne vient faire l'état du véhicule et se charge de la voiture.... Fin du séjour....
Après ma première dans le Kruger, voilà ce que j'aurais tout simplement aimé savoir pour mon organisation :
Comme tous, j'ai parcouru divers forums afin d'avoir des avis croisés, ce qui n'est pas une sinécure, bon nombre ont tendance à développer leurs propres appréciations, de même que ces avis se transforment parfois en pugilats écrits, toutefois je me dois de remercier les personnes qui ont pris la peine de me donner des avis pertinents, donc :
Tout d’abord, j'ai cherché à comprendre comment fonctionne le système du parc, puisqu'il ne s'agit pas d'un zoo, mais d'une véritable randonnée à travers la brousse...
Le parc est divisé en plusieurs camps, comme on peut le consulter sur leur site Pour un court séjour (mini 2 jours un seul camp), l'idéal 4 à 5 jours, 2 camps est suffisant pour en profiter un max
La circulation dans le parc est très très bien signalisée, la route est parfaite et les pistes tout à fait roulantes même si parfois il y a de la « tôle ondulée » (idéale pour les amateurs d'Orangina)
Dans les camps, il y a plusieurs types d'hébergement, cela va du camping au confortable bungalow, avec clim, frigo, sdb, cuisine, etc...les tarifs et résa sont sur le site sandparc, par contre les réservations sont à faire le plus tôt possible, car elles partent très vite... !
Dans tous les camps il y a une station carburant (ainsi qu'aux portes d'entrées du parc), on y trouve une boutique avec des babioles souvenir et de quoi se nourrir, (excellente bière et vins sudaf) un restaurant, sympa pour le breakfast et les autres repas avec des tarifs très abordables, dans les plus grands camps un point wifi au resto (voire même un DAB à Skukuza) la carte bancaire est acceptée partout sans souci particulier (perso, j'aime bien avoir du liquide pour me achats)
Sur Maps j'ai situé la position géographique du parc par rapport à l'aéroport de Johannesburg (JNB) au vu de la distance et selon l’horaire d'arrivée, mieux vaut prévoir un hôtel entre les 2 (A/R)
J'avais réglé toutes mes réservations à l'avance (bungalows, entrées du parc (une par journée et par personne) les 2 hôtels A/R, la location de la voiture +le gps, (utile surtout pour trouver les hôtels) tout cela nous a fait gagner énormément de temps partout....
En arrivant à JNB,
1-j'ai pris aussitôt une carte SIM pour la semaine chez vodafone, (364zar 22€50) à droite dès l'entrée du hall,
2-ensuite en repartant vers le centre, il y a des bureaux de change, et un DAB où j'ai retiré de l'argent
3-je suis allé au bureau avis prendre ma voiture
Pour info, il y a un semblant de portier à la sortie de l'aéroport coté rentalcar, qui m'a demandé ou j'allais, j'ai répondu avis, aussitôt il a hélé un gus qui est sorti de nul part et m'a dit de le suivre, j'avais compris le truc, le même partout en Afrique, j'ai eu beau lui dire de me foutre la paix, rien à faire, il m'a escorté jusqu'à chez avis soit à 2 pas de la sortie, et a exigé que je lui donne de la monnaie, j'ai réussi péniblement à m'en débarrasser pour retomber par la suite sur un autre qui s'est installé dans la voiture pour me programmer le gps et me renseigner de tout, j'ignore si il était de la maison ou pas, mais il a été récompensé autant que l'autre (je ne suis pas radin, mais le dab ne donne pas de monnaie)
Une fois assis dans la voiture, la 1ère véritable étape était enfin bouclée....(ouf!)
Important, en sortant du parking souterrain, il faut suivre la direction Boksburg fléchée au sol et sur les panneaux, pas évident, parce que les voies se croisent de façon rapprochée, ensuite la route est simple sauf que les conducteurs sont encore plus dangereux que les buffles du parc. Pour ce qui est de la vitesse, notre « Louis Philippe » national s'arracherait les cheveux avec ses 80 km/h, surtout quand on voit un panneau 120 (radar!) sur une section à voie unique et double sens ….. !!!
Pour le retour de la voiture, le plein devant être fait , il y a une station juste à la sortie (!) du parking, celle la même que l'on prend au départ, heureusement il y a une voie de retour vers l'aéroport
Avis est très bien organisé, avec le fléchage dans le parking souterrain, un placeur vous attend, aussitôt stoppé une personne vient faire l'état du véhicule et se charge de la voiture.... Fin du séjour....
Hi there,
We’re back from our 3-week trip to South Africa in July. It was a family trip with our four grown-up kids (ages 18 to 25).
First off, I’d like to thank everyone on this forum for their great tips—they really helped us plan this trip!
The trip: We spent 15 days between Port Elizabeth and Cape Town, then a week around Kruger (including Blyde River Canyon). We found South Africans to be welcoming and always ready to help. We never felt unsafe (just followed basic safety rules). The police are very visible, especially on the roads.
Logistics: We’d booked our accommodations in advance but made a few changes on the spot based on how we felt at the time. We rented two vehicles from Firefly (Hertz). No complaints—recent cars, quick returns, and the deposit wasn’t charged. We’d gotten our international driver’s permits... which stayed in France! Luckily, no one asked for them. Driving on the left wasn’t an issue (it wasn’t our first time). The roads we took were in good, even great, condition. Only a few tracks to lodges or parks were rough and required extra caution. Lots of pedestrians on the sides of roads, even highways. And plenty of very slow trucks. But they pull over to let you pass. It’s also common for cars to cross into the opposite lane to overtake, even with white lines. We took two domestic flights: one early in the morning (Johannesburg to Port Elizabeth) and one in the late afternoon (Cape Town to Johannesburg) to save time.
We had some highlights and a few disappointments—all part of the journey! More details coming soon.
We’re back from our 3-week trip to South Africa in July. It was a family trip with our four grown-up kids (ages 18 to 25).
First off, I’d like to thank everyone on this forum for their great tips—they really helped us plan this trip!
The trip: We spent 15 days between Port Elizabeth and Cape Town, then a week around Kruger (including Blyde River Canyon). We found South Africans to be welcoming and always ready to help. We never felt unsafe (just followed basic safety rules). The police are very visible, especially on the roads.
Logistics: We’d booked our accommodations in advance but made a few changes on the spot based on how we felt at the time. We rented two vehicles from Firefly (Hertz). No complaints—recent cars, quick returns, and the deposit wasn’t charged. We’d gotten our international driver’s permits... which stayed in France! Luckily, no one asked for them. Driving on the left wasn’t an issue (it wasn’t our first time). The roads we took were in good, even great, condition. Only a few tracks to lodges or parks were rough and required extra caution. Lots of pedestrians on the sides of roads, even highways. And plenty of very slow trucks. But they pull over to let you pass. It’s also common for cars to cross into the opposite lane to overtake, even with white lines. We took two domestic flights: one early in the morning (Johannesburg to Port Elizabeth) and one in the late afternoon (Cape Town to Johannesburg) to save time.
We had some highlights and a few disappointments—all part of the journey! More details coming soon.
Bonjour a tous;
Troisième road trip en 4X4 en préparation pour Août, après 2007 et 2012 . Arrivée en milieu de journée a JNB le 29/07, pour plus de confort nuit sur place. Je pense attaquer directement par le KTP pour 4/5 jours que l'on adore, avec si possible deux nuits en satellite camp, souvenir d'une expérience inoubliable à Garaghab. C'est là que ça se complique, on aimerais bien aller faire un tour en Namibie ou au Botswana avant de finir par le Kruger pour encore 5/6 jours. Vol retour le 13/08 au départ de JNB.
Merci pour vos conseils et idées
Troisième road trip en 4X4 en préparation pour Août, après 2007 et 2012 . Arrivée en milieu de journée a JNB le 29/07, pour plus de confort nuit sur place. Je pense attaquer directement par le KTP pour 4/5 jours que l'on adore, avec si possible deux nuits en satellite camp, souvenir d'une expérience inoubliable à Garaghab. C'est là que ça se complique, on aimerais bien aller faire un tour en Namibie ou au Botswana avant de finir par le Kruger pour encore 5/6 jours. Vol retour le 13/08 au départ de JNB.
Merci pour vos conseils et idées
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
Hello,
I’m taking advantage of the forum reopening to ask this question:
For her 70th birthday, my mom will receive—as a gift—a trip to South Africa at the end of May 2025. We’ll arrive and depart (13 nights later) from JNB on Air France AF990/AF995. We’ll obviously rent a car for certain parts of the trip. I’ve been to the Cape Town area and as far as Agulhas twice, but she’s never been to South Africa before. She might enjoy a day or two of safari, but it’s not a priority for her. I’m well aware that trying to pack in too much is risky, which is why I’m looking for your advice on itineraries, safety, and health (status of the Marburg virus). So far, which combinations of these visits (in no particular order) would be doable and most enjoyable for her at a reasonable pace:
1-day excursion to Pilanesberg Park (+ Hartbeespoort on the way back if possible), self-drive or with a tour guide? 2 nights around the Panorama Route self-driving Garden Route from/to George/PLZ for 5 nights (what are the must-sees for a first-timer with so little time?) Wine region for 2 nights (is it worth doing both the Stellenbosch bus tour and the Franschhoek Wine Tram the next day, or vice versa)—she loves good wine! Cape Town for 2 nights (is it worth stopping at the Cape of Good Hope if—only if—you’ve maybe already been to Agulhas?).
This would give a final itinerary like this:
Day 1: Morning arrival in JNB—rest day/to be defined Day 2: Guided game drive excursion to Pilanesberg Park Day 3: Flight JNB–Port Elizabeth, pick up rental car, drive to Tsitsikamma Day 4–6: Garden Route: activities to be defined Day 7: Transfer to Franschhoek: Wine Tram in the afternoon Day 8: Taxi to Stellenbosch for the Vine Hopper bus tour Day 9–11: Transfer to Cape Town: activities to be defined Day 12: Flight from Cape Town to Hoedspruit or Nelspruit Day 13: Visit the Panorama Route Day 14: Flight from Hoedspruit or Nelspruit to JNB, then evening flight back to France
Given the time spent on the Garden Route, what are the must-sees? Same question for the Panorama Route? In general, she prefers beautiful walks with incredible landscapes/views and cultural visits over big cats, but it would be a shame not to see some local wildlife like meerkats, whales (I doubt it in May), or penguins during her stay! There you go—feel free to critique (not too harshly, though😛)/advise/improve. Thanks in advance! 🙂
For her 70th birthday, my mom will receive—as a gift—a trip to South Africa at the end of May 2025. We’ll arrive and depart (13 nights later) from JNB on Air France AF990/AF995. We’ll obviously rent a car for certain parts of the trip. I’ve been to the Cape Town area and as far as Agulhas twice, but she’s never been to South Africa before. She might enjoy a day or two of safari, but it’s not a priority for her. I’m well aware that trying to pack in too much is risky, which is why I’m looking for your advice on itineraries, safety, and health (status of the Marburg virus). So far, which combinations of these visits (in no particular order) would be doable and most enjoyable for her at a reasonable pace:
1-day excursion to Pilanesberg Park (+ Hartbeespoort on the way back if possible), self-drive or with a tour guide? 2 nights around the Panorama Route self-driving Garden Route from/to George/PLZ for 5 nights (what are the must-sees for a first-timer with so little time?) Wine region for 2 nights (is it worth doing both the Stellenbosch bus tour and the Franschhoek Wine Tram the next day, or vice versa)—she loves good wine! Cape Town for 2 nights (is it worth stopping at the Cape of Good Hope if—only if—you’ve maybe already been to Agulhas?).
This would give a final itinerary like this:
Day 1: Morning arrival in JNB—rest day/to be defined Day 2: Guided game drive excursion to Pilanesberg Park Day 3: Flight JNB–Port Elizabeth, pick up rental car, drive to Tsitsikamma Day 4–6: Garden Route: activities to be defined Day 7: Transfer to Franschhoek: Wine Tram in the afternoon Day 8: Taxi to Stellenbosch for the Vine Hopper bus tour Day 9–11: Transfer to Cape Town: activities to be defined Day 12: Flight from Cape Town to Hoedspruit or Nelspruit Day 13: Visit the Panorama Route Day 14: Flight from Hoedspruit or Nelspruit to JNB, then evening flight back to France
Given the time spent on the Garden Route, what are the must-sees? Same question for the Panorama Route? In general, she prefers beautiful walks with incredible landscapes/views and cultural visits over big cats, but it would be a shame not to see some local wildlife like meerkats, whales (I doubt it in May), or penguins during her stay! There you go—feel free to critique (not too harshly, though😛)/advise/improve. Thanks in advance! 🙂
Hi everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning our trip/safari to Kruger in October:
- 2 nights in the Manyeleti private reserve (Honeyguide Montobeni)
- 2 nights in Kruger for a self-drive safari (which reserve, or where to stay?)
- 1 night at Blyde River Canyon (where?)
- 2 nights in the Balule private reserve (Imagine Africa Luxury)
Then heading to CAPE TOWN.
So as you’ve probably guessed, I’m not sure:
- where to stay for the BRC and need lodge names
- coming from Manyeleti and heading to the BRC, which strategic spot in greater Kruger to choose (I was thinking Satara, not too far) but couldn’t find any available places for October on Sandparc
- and which domestic flight destination for Manyeleti from JNB (Hoedspruit?) to arrive at Orpen Gate,
- And same question for which airport to fly out to Cape Town after Balule.
Thanks for your quick help—I’m already behind schedule!!!
Dan
bonjour les globes trotteurs,
je voudrais avoir votre avis sur un voyage que nous allons faire pour 3 semaines en aout/septembre. On voudrait partir de Windhoesk en louant une voiture en montant sur etosha et redescendre pour finir à cap town.(5 jours la bas) (la bas on laisserait notre voiture de location) Qu'en pensez vous en terme de temps? Vous l'avez fait? Ou alors faire l'AFS seulement en incluant bien sur Kruger.
Merci pour vos avis.
je voudrais avoir votre avis sur un voyage que nous allons faire pour 3 semaines en aout/septembre. On voudrait partir de Windhoesk en louant une voiture en montant sur etosha et redescendre pour finir à cap town.(5 jours la bas) (la bas on laisserait notre voiture de location) Qu'en pensez vous en terme de temps? Vous l'avez fait? Ou alors faire l'AFS seulement en incluant bien sur Kruger.
Merci pour vos avis.
Bonjour à tous,
Après avoir écumé moult pages de ce forum je voulais avoir votre ressenti sur mon itinéraire de voyage en Afrique du Sud. Nous avons décidé de partir en dernière minute et nous atterrirons jeudi matin prochain à Johannesburg et re-décollerons du Cap le samedi 14 au soir soit 17 jours sur place.
Nous avons envie de nature et de montagnes. N'étant pas forcément particulièrement attirés par les animaux, nous avions au départ décidé d'opter pour le Maputaland plutôt que Kruger et Blyde mais finalement nous avons décidé qu'il serait quand même dommage d'aller en Afrique du Sud sans faire une virée au Kruger ... (et puis Blyde a l'air incroyable aussi !).
Voici l'itinéraire prévu : voyez-vous des choses à modifier ?
J1 : Arrivée à Johannesburg à 11h30 - visite du Musée de l'apartheid l'après-midi
J2 : Décollage pour Skukuza - location de voiture - nuit au Kruger (où ? Lower Sabie déjà complet, Berg en Dal ?)
J3 : Kruger : Nuit 2 (quel deuxième camp ? Je voulais aller à Olifants mais c'est 10h de trajet du coup impossible sur une journée du coup je ne sais pas pour quel point de chute opter)
J4 - J5 : Blyde : 2 nuits à Her en Dal, marche dans le canyon
J6 : Trajet en voiture de Blyde au Royal Natal (cela se fait bien en une journée ?)
J7 - J10 : Drakensberg : 2 nuits au Royal Natal puis vers le Sud (Sani Pass par exemple)
J11 - J17 : Virée au Cap et proximité (Cape Town, Table Mountain, Cap de Bonne espérances, 2J de vignobles, peut-être Overberg ...)
J18 : Retour tristesse et grisaille
J'ai encore quelques doutes sur la première partie du périple sur lesquels je serais ravi d'avoir des lumières :
* pour le Kruger, où passeriez-vous vos deux nuits en atterrissant à Skukuza ? (sachant que Lower Sabie pas dispo sur la période) Au même endroits ? Deux endroits différents ?
* avez-vous des conseils sur la meilleure manière de relier Blyde au Drakensberg ? De ce que j'ai compris le trajet est long env. 7h de voiture voire plus, particulièrement ennuyeux avec peu de points d'arrêt entre les deux destinations et il n'y a pas non plus de vol direct ...
* Auriez-vous des recommandations pour les points du chute et hébergements pour nos 5 jours au Drakensberg ?
Un grand merci par avance pour votre aide et n'hésitez pas à me dire si certains points ne sont pas clairs ou vous semblent mal goupillés ... !
Raphaël
Après avoir écumé moult pages de ce forum je voulais avoir votre ressenti sur mon itinéraire de voyage en Afrique du Sud. Nous avons décidé de partir en dernière minute et nous atterrirons jeudi matin prochain à Johannesburg et re-décollerons du Cap le samedi 14 au soir soit 17 jours sur place.
Nous avons envie de nature et de montagnes. N'étant pas forcément particulièrement attirés par les animaux, nous avions au départ décidé d'opter pour le Maputaland plutôt que Kruger et Blyde mais finalement nous avons décidé qu'il serait quand même dommage d'aller en Afrique du Sud sans faire une virée au Kruger ... (et puis Blyde a l'air incroyable aussi !).
Voici l'itinéraire prévu : voyez-vous des choses à modifier ?
J1 : Arrivée à Johannesburg à 11h30 - visite du Musée de l'apartheid l'après-midi
J2 : Décollage pour Skukuza - location de voiture - nuit au Kruger (où ? Lower Sabie déjà complet, Berg en Dal ?)
J3 : Kruger : Nuit 2 (quel deuxième camp ? Je voulais aller à Olifants mais c'est 10h de trajet du coup impossible sur une journée du coup je ne sais pas pour quel point de chute opter)
J4 - J5 : Blyde : 2 nuits à Her en Dal, marche dans le canyon
J6 : Trajet en voiture de Blyde au Royal Natal (cela se fait bien en une journée ?)
J7 - J10 : Drakensberg : 2 nuits au Royal Natal puis vers le Sud (Sani Pass par exemple)
J11 - J17 : Virée au Cap et proximité (Cape Town, Table Mountain, Cap de Bonne espérances, 2J de vignobles, peut-être Overberg ...)
J18 : Retour tristesse et grisaille
J'ai encore quelques doutes sur la première partie du périple sur lesquels je serais ravi d'avoir des lumières :
* pour le Kruger, où passeriez-vous vos deux nuits en atterrissant à Skukuza ? (sachant que Lower Sabie pas dispo sur la période) Au même endroits ? Deux endroits différents ?
* avez-vous des conseils sur la meilleure manière de relier Blyde au Drakensberg ? De ce que j'ai compris le trajet est long env. 7h de voiture voire plus, particulièrement ennuyeux avec peu de points d'arrêt entre les deux destinations et il n'y a pas non plus de vol direct ...
* Auriez-vous des recommandations pour les points du chute et hébergements pour nos 5 jours au Drakensberg ?
Un grand merci par avance pour votre aide et n'hésitez pas à me dire si certains points ne sont pas clairs ou vous semblent mal goupillés ... !
Raphaël
Et voilà...
Nous voilà repartis sur un nouveau voyage en perspective auquel on a pas pu résister. En effet, Qatar Airways avait lancé une offre de 10 000 billets gratuits (juste les taxes à payer) pour les soignants (je suis infirmière)
On n’a hélas pas réussi à avoir un code promotionnel mais quelques semaines plus tard on a reçu un code promotionnel à 50% et on a saisi l opportunité.
Sur le fil du rasoir, on a réussi à avoir deux billets aller retour et on s est décidé pour 15 jours dans la région du cap en Afrique du Sud du 16 au 30 novembre.
Il y a évidemment un risque d annulation si COVID-19 mais les billets seront alors reportés.
On part donc sur un road-trip en 4x4 avec matériel de camping pour alterner nuits en camping et hôtel. On va se concentrer sur la région du Sud et je suis donc preneuse de vos lumières...
A vos stylos !!!
Hello and happy New Year to everyone,
A friend and I are interested in going to South Africa (or Kenya) for about two weeks (last quarter of 2026) but without renting a car.
Generally, I don’t like organized trips for the entire duration of a trip, and what’s more, this destination is very expensive.
So, I was wondering if it would be a good idea to spend, for example, a week in Cape Town independently and take day trips with a local agency, then do a week-long circuit for a safari in a park, which would leave a bit of freedom to book flights and maybe get advice from local agencies.
Is this a good idea? Is it doable or not?
What do you think? Have any travelers done this kind of trip?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Dominique
Hi there,
First question: We're leaving Kruger Park from Olifants camp to head to BRC.
I know the drive is long (about 4 hours, especially since I think the part through the park will be slow due to animals). We're exiting the park via Phalaborwa Gate, but I can't find a map, so it's hard to tell if we'll arrive at the top of the Canyon or via Graskop to then drive up the Panorama Route.
Second question: I booked 1 night at Forever Resort, but if we arrive from the top and then drive down the Panorama Route, I'm not sure that's the best choice.
Third question: Since we're leaving Kruger early in the morning, I think we can plan to explore the area in the afternoon. We'll sleep there, and then we need to be at our lodge in the Balule private reserve by late morning (Imagine Africa) to catch the afternoon safari. I'm worried it might be too short if we want to do a boat trip on the dam! What do you think? Should I add another night? It's still possible since I haven't planned the rest yet, and we have 7 nights left in Cape Town, including Hermanus! Do you think I should cut short the Cape Town stay? If so, I could break the BRC trip into two parts—one night after leaving Kruger before the private safari, and then come back this way (since it's not too far, I think) after the two nights on safari before heading to Cape Town. But how can I organize the visits logically?
I can already hear Michel telling me I'm overcomplicating things!! 😉
Anyway, it's all a bit confusing—don't hesitate to ask for clarification if you need it. I'd understand! Thanks, Dan
Second question: I booked 1 night at Forever Resort, but if we arrive from the top and then drive down the Panorama Route, I'm not sure that's the best choice.
Third question: Since we're leaving Kruger early in the morning, I think we can plan to explore the area in the afternoon. We'll sleep there, and then we need to be at our lodge in the Balule private reserve by late morning (Imagine Africa) to catch the afternoon safari. I'm worried it might be too short if we want to do a boat trip on the dam! What do you think? Should I add another night? It's still possible since I haven't planned the rest yet, and we have 7 nights left in Cape Town, including Hermanus! Do you think I should cut short the Cape Town stay? If so, I could break the BRC trip into two parts—one night after leaving Kruger before the private safari, and then come back this way (since it's not too far, I think) after the two nights on safari before heading to Cape Town. But how can I organize the visits logically?
I can already hear Michel telling me I'm overcomplicating things!! 😉
Anyway, it's all a bit confusing—don't hesitate to ask for clarification if you need it. I'd understand! Thanks, Dan
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Hi there, we're traveling in April with our 4-year-old child. We'll be spending a few days in Clarens and would then like to visit Hluhluwe. We don’t want to drive more than 3–4 hours a day, and the driving time is estimated at nearly 7 hours. Do you have any suggestions for a stopover and an Airbnb or guest house (safe town, nature) between Clarens and Hluhluwe where we could spend the afternoon and leave the next day, as well as a safe route? Thanks so much!
