Hi, July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali. First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here. Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience. Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m. My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either. On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day... The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist. On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive... Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.

I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.

Hi everyone,

We're currently planning our itinerary for this summer (late July - August) in China. Our travel style is more backpacker-oriented—we're used to traveling in Latin America, booking things just 3 days in advance. Could you share your thoughts on this route?

We’re particularly wondering about: - Yangshuo (which seems very touristy) → Xingping instead? The park Bajiaozhai? - How to get around and find accommodation in the small Miao and Dong villages? - Should we book trains and hotels in advance for late July and early August?

Thanks so much!

28-Jul Monday Kunming: Bamboo Temple Dian Chi Lake Kunming 29-Jul Tuesday Visit the city center Lake bike tour Dali Dali 30-Jul Wednesday Three Pagodas / Cangshan Mountain Dali Dali 31-Jul Thursday Transport to Shaxi - visit 1 - Dali Old Town Coach Station (大理古城客运站) 2 - Arrive Jianchuan Coach Station 3 - Local green or yellow minibuses to Shaxi Dali → Jianchuan → Shaxi Shaxi 01-Aug Friday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Shaxi 02-Aug Saturday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Lijiang 03-Aug Sunday Tiger Leaping Gorge trek 04-Aug Monday Tiger Leaping Gorge Qiatou Lijiang / Dali 05-Aug Tuesday Dali → Kunming → Kaili Full-day transport Kaili 06-Aug Wednesday Langde Miao Village - Xijiang Miao Village Kaili 07-Aug Thursday Visit village Kaili 08-Aug Friday Visit village Zhaoxing 09-Aug Saturday AM: Train to Guilin - PM: Elephant Trunk Hill / night barbecue Zhaoxing → Guilin (1h) Guilin 10-Aug Sunday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 11-Aug Monday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 12-Aug Tuesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 13-Aug Wednesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 14-Aug Thursday Yangshuo Yangshuo 15-Aug Friday Guilin → HK (3.5h) Guilin → HK (3.5h) 16-Aug Saturday Hong Kong

Voici quelques conseils suite à notre voyage de 6 semaines (été 2026) en Chine, Vietnam & Cambodge. Nous sommes partis à 4 avec deux enfants de 15 et 12 ans. J'espère que ces quelques notes aideront d'autres voyageurs.

CHINE Général Il faut télécharger et préparer des applis : - Alipay et Wechat pour payer (je n'ai jamais retiré un seul billet de tout le séjour) - Didi pour les taxis - Amap = Maps chinois (qui marche très bien, surtout les métros) - une application de traduction (on avait Papago mais elle racontait des choses bizarres parfois) - Google Lens pour traduire des menus ou pancartes est très pratique. - helloride pour les vélos - Gemini et ChatGPT pour tout : comprendre le quotidien, améliorer les visites, demander la météo, trouver certaines choses. - Homeexchange si vous voulez baisser un peu le coût du voyage (peu d'annonces en Asie sauf dans les grandes villes, souvent des expatriés) - Trip.com est très utile voire indispensable pour les trains, les vols intérieurs et les hôtels. Comme sur Booking.com, plus on achète chez eux, plus on a d'avantages. Donc je vous invite même à regarder l'achat de vos billets d'avion sur ce site, même si c'est un peu plus cher. Néanmoins, l'achat des billets train est compliqué car (1) cela n'ouvre que 15 jours avant, et (2) c'est pris d'assaut. Trip ne fait que vous promettre d'acheter dès l'ouverture mais il n'y arrive pas toujours. C'est stressant et peut obliger à modifier des étapes, surtout si vous visez un wagon-lit et qu'il n'y a au final plus de places. Attention aux noms des gares il y a souvent plusieurs gares par ville dont une TGV à l'extérieur. Pour Internet, on avait pris le forfait Asie chez Holafly. Il a toujours marché mais ça semblait tellement plus lent que l'internet chinois. J'ai regretté de ne pas avoir acheté une carte SIM chinoise. Car quand on n'a pas d'internet en chine tout est TRÈS compliqué (argent, transport ...)

Pour le pare-feu on avait ExpressVPN, pas toujours efficace. Un peu déçu. Demandez à ChatGPT des conseils avec capture d'écran pour améliorer les paramètres.

Comme on n'avait qu'une seule carte SIM avec internet on n'a jamais pu louer des vélos en libre-service. Si c'était à refaire je prendrais une carte SIM par personne, même pour les enfants car les distances en ville sont grandes, voire immenses. On a beaucoup, beaucoup marché. De même, prendre le bus n'est pas évident avec un seul accès internet. Il vaut mieux avoir un téléphone par personne avec internet. Réserver le plus possible vos visites à l'avance, c'est souvent complet. Attention aux batteries externes : s'il n'y a pas écrit explicitement "3C", ils vont vous la confisquer. Même s'il y a un petit logo avec un avion.

Shanghai Le soir, il y avait tellement de monde dans les rues pour accéder au Bund depuis le métro que la police était présente en force et bloquait les rues. Il faut arriver tôt. Nous sommes passés par le haut, au nord.

Suzhou Attention, 2 gares (comme souvent en chine) et celle du TGV est à 45-50 min de la vieille ville. Tellement de monde au jardin de l'humble administrateur, nous vous déconseillons cette visite. Ça fait une journée marathon depuis Shanghai (depuis notre hôtel jusqu'au jardin de Suzhou, on a presque mis 4h).

Pekin Cité interdite : n'y allez pas, je sais c'est dommage mais il y a trop de monde. Je n'ai pas réussi à acheter les billets sur le site officiel à cause des passeports des enfants. On a pris du coup une visite guidée, seul moyen d'entrer (car les places partent vite). Visite très décevante à la fois en raison du guide pas terrible, mais surtout de la foule immense. Il faudra faire beaucoup la queue pour entrer et voir certains lieux. Vous serez beaucoup contrôlés, donc choisissez bien ce que vous mettrez dans vos sacs. Muraille de chine à Mutyanu : Beaucoup de monde. 2h de bus et pourtant, à notre arrivée (matinale), des gens redescendaient déjà ! Je crois vraiment que la meilleure solution est de laisser vos gros bagages à Pékin et d'aller dormir près de la muraille. Ainsi vous en profiterez un peu plus seuls. Le transport : descendre au métro Tianmen Square et chercher les bus avec des guides officiels portant des gilets jaune-vert fluo. Inutile d'acheter les billets avant sur internet ; ils m'ont fait annuler les miens pour en reprendre. Quand le bus est plein, il part et un autre se remplit. Attention sur place le téléphérique et le télécabine sont des remontées distinctes et indépendantes. Si vous voulez monter à gauche et redescendre à droite il faudra des billets différents. Sachez que la queue interminable pour faire la descente en luge nous a dissuadés. Petit conseil baignade incroyable à Pékin : sur la rive nord du lac Houhai, il est possible de se baigner en passant la barrière. On l'a fait 2 fois avec une petite dizaine de personnes. Génial, donc prenez un maillot.

Désert de Shapotou Génial, évidemment il fait très chaud l'après midi. On avait pris la tente, et non un bungalow climatisé, dans laquelle il est impossible de passer l'après midi. On a stagné dans le restaurant. Les activités payantes sont amusantes sauf les chameaux qui font peine à voir. C'est la soirée et le coucher de soleil qui valent le coup. La déception reste de ne pas pouvoir s'aventurer loin et seul dans le désert, ils ne proposent de louer un 4x4 par exemple. On avait réservé chez "The desert camping hotel of the proprietress of Shapotou". Ils sont adorables.

Zhongwei Temple de Gaomiao et son Souterrain : c'est rigolo et court, on y voit des peintures loufoques des enfers bouddhistes.

Xi'an Armée des soldats de terre cuite : on y est allés en Didi car à 4, le prix d'une voiture peut vite rejoindre le prix de 4 places dans une navette. Sur place, beaucoup de monde, c'est la cohue pour voir correctement. On a fait les salles dans l'ordre 3, 2 puis 1, ce qui reste un bon choix. Hua Shan mountains : partis en Didi avant le soleil pour arriver dès l'ouverture des guichets (7h je crois). Nous étions sidérés de voir autant de personnes déjà en train de redescendre. 45 min de bus pour atteindre le téléphérique ouest, puis 15 min d'ascension. On a fait les pics ouest, sud, est, central, puis nord (dans cet ordre) avant de rentrer par l'autre téléphérique (le billet peut se prendre en haut). Une très belle journée. En ville, passez voir le

Chengdu Centre de recherche sur les pandas : comme pour les hua Shan, on calcule pour arriver à l'ouverture des guichets. Déjà énormément de monde, et ça avance très vite pour voir les gros pandas avant leur sieste. Il faut se faire déposer à l'entrée ouest (et non sud) sinon vous allez devoir tout traverser à pieds et en montée. La visite du Giant Bouddha de Leshan est intéressante. Le trajet est un peu long néanmoins (métro puis train puis bus de ville puis navette dans le site). Nous n'avons pas choisi la version bateau mais à pieds. Au final, on ne reste que quelques minutes aux pieds du fameux Bouddha mais c'est une belle journée. Conseil hôtel : Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). La vue est démente et le quartier hyper pratique, sympa. 646 CNY pour 2 nuits Baignade : la piscine municipale est une expérience intéressante, mais n'espérez pas nager car personne ne le fait. Tout le monde barbote en ayant pied. Les horaires sont un peu bizarres avec une pause en fin d'après-midi.

Kunming La piste cyclable le long du lac Dian est jolie et souvent bien protégée des voitures. Mais comme partout en chine, il y a énormément de monde. Peu de conseils pour vos visites car le marché aux fleurs est un marché de gros, pas très intéressant au final. Quant au musée des minorités, il a fermé devant nous. Tous les grands centres commerciaux sont de bons lieux pour vos achats.

Dali On croyait pouvoir faire le tour du lac en 2 jours en moto. C'est doublement faux. Tout d'abord le "bord" du lac est bloqué à la circulation, et se voit réservé aux vélos (ou des sortes de mini-bus touristiques). Il reste donc la grande route d'où on ne voit jamais le lac, avec tous les camions et les voitures. Les 120 km comme ça n'auraient aucun sens selon nous. Les rizières autour sont bien mais nettement moins qu'ailleurs, donc ça ne mérite pas d'aller à Dali pour ça. Quant à la vieille ville, tout restaurée, c'est assez joli mais il y a des milliers et milliers de personnes, surtout le soir.

Hekou (frontière avec le Vietnam) Train confortable depuis Kunming. Sur le parking un bus (pas très bien indiqué mais il y a des Didi au pire) vous emmènera en 15-20 min à la frontière. Peu d'attente aux 2 postes frontière. Amusant de constater sur le pont les 2 lampadaires proches du trait marquant la frontière : celui chinois est neuf, moderne, avec une caméra de surveillance (évidemment), alors que celui vietnamien est vieux et un peu rouillé.

VIETNAM Généralités : - il faut l'appli Grab pour les taxis - très déçu par 12Go, qui n'affiche pas tous les bus, qui ne met jamais en relation avec la compagnie, et refuse tout remboursement. Essayer plutôt direct des compagnies comme FUTA bus. - le paiement par CB est souvent accepté (supermarché et magasins modernes), sinon il faut de l'espèce

Lao Cai 2km entre la frontière et la gare. Le bus couchette vers Hanoï avec la compagnie Sao Viet est bien organisée, ça va.

Hanoï Mausolée d'Ho Chi Minh ferme très tôt (10h30 je crois). Musée des femmes : très bien, pas très long Temple de la littérature : très beau, assez rapide C'est à Hanoï que vous devriez faire vos achats de souvenirs, vêtement et contrefaçons car les prix sont corrects et les vendeurs plus sympas qu'ailleurs. On recommande Cho Dong Xuan.

Tu Long Bay Partis 2 jours 1 nuit (donc en réalité 24h sur le bateau) avec l'agence Parfum d'automne (francophone) qui nous a mis sur un bateau de chez Cycad Cruise. Coût 300€ par personne, c'est cher mais c'était génial, super luxe, et les repas-buffet délicieux. On ne regrette pas cet effort budgétaire. Seul regret, il n'y a aucune baignade dans la baie (mais il y a une piscine sur le bateau). Pour se baigner il faut prendre 3 jours 2 nuits et aller dans un secteur qui n'est pas protégé par le parc maritime.

Phong Nha Si vous n'avez pas fait les montagnes du nord par manque de temps ou pour des raisons météo (comme nous), Phong Nha est une belle étape pour se balader en moto. C'est très beau, surtout les montagnes à l'ouest de la ville, vers les grottes. Il y a deux (petites) baignades au Botanic Garden qui est une balade agréable de 45 min sans pause. Conseil hôtel : sunbeam village (très gentils, piscine, petit déjeuner au bord du fleuve, location de moto)

Da Nang Conseil hôtel : Meridians by Hsuite, car vous aurez une plage presque pour vous. Il faudra néanmoins marcher 15-20 min pour aller dans la zone hyper-touristique si vous voulez louer des planches de surf par exemple (150 à 200k DNG de l'heure). La plage est belle et l'eau est à 30°C, c'est une bonne halte sur un long voyage, d'autant que tous les transports passent par Da Nang.

Hoi An À 45 min de Da Nang, donc se fait bien à la journée, d'autant que la ville n'est pas si grande et qu'il y fait très chaud. Cours de cuisine : MS Hanh cooking class, super (seule la visite du marché est un peu inutile). On déconseille le tour en "basket boat", un peu tristounet sur une grosse mare marron guidés par des personnes bien âgées.

Ho Chi Minh ville Le marché de Ben thanh est un enfer : les prix de départ sont exorbitants et les vendeurs agressifs. N'y allez pas. Le musée de la guerre peut être vraiment dur pour les enfants.

Can tho Ville à éviter. Ne faites pas notre erreur d'y aller pour espérer voir le marché flottant.

Chau doc A priori pas de Grab dans la ville, mais des taxis normaux. 1 journée sur place peut suffire en allant tôt voir la forêt, et la montagne en fin d'après-midi. 250k / pers la forêt et ses canaux (à 45 min en moto) Le coucher de soleil au Victoria Nui Sam peut être magnifique si les nuages sont sympas. Resto pas cher et bon : Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep Conseil hôtel : Homestay Khoa (2 250 000 DNG pour 3 nuits), hôtesse adorable et pleine de conseils, chambres propres.

Le speedboat vers le Cambodge est plus confortable qu'un bus . À réserver sur Hangchau quelques jours avant, paiement en espèces le jour J (1,640,000đ)

CAMBODGE Généralités : - Difficultés avec l'appli "bakong touristes", il a fallu aller dans une grande banque pour mettre de l'argent sur l'appli. Ensuite on s'en est peu servi.

Phnom Penh Selon nous, 1 jour et demi peut suffire si vous voulez accorder plus de temps ailleurs. Les marchés ferment tôt vers 18h, mais sont moins intéressants qu'à Hanoï par exemple. Le Palais royal fait une pause de 11 à 14h, mais pas grand monde l'après midi

Siem Reap Trajet avec la compagnie Capitol, le bus est simple, sommaire mais pas cher. Départ 10h15, durée 7h Prix entrée Angkor : 62 USD par personne pour le pass 3 jours. Les tickets sont à retirer à Angkor Entreprise. Location de deux motos 125cc : 2 fois 10 USD, et comptez 7 USD pour l'essence En vélo, j'ai mis 25min pour rejoindre les bassins d'Angkor Wat. La location d'un vélo simple de ville était à 1 dollar de l'heure. Petit circuit fait en moto (à l'envers) : on a mis 7h en s'arrêtant partout Grand tour, fait en tuktuk : seulement 5 temples, fait en 4h30 Si vous voulez voir plein de singes, ils sont regroupés à l'ouest du Bayon. Pour les temples, nous demandions à chaque arrêt à Gemini (IA) de nous indiquer des détails susceptibles d'intéresser des enfants (qui peuvent se lasser de la redondance des temples). Il vous donnera des détails rigolos, des particularités à chercher, c'est appréciable pour les plus jeunes. Conseil hôtel : the five senses, tenu par un français Bruno, qui connaît le Cambodge parfaitement et organise des tours. Conseil resto : Wild (que des rouleaux de printemps, mais hyper variés dans leur contenu. C'est délicieux et pas cher) Attention 1h de route jusqu'à l'aéroport, à 50km de la ville Conseil spectacle : the Phare Circus

Hi there!

I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.

Any recommendations for things to see or do?

I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.

I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?

Hi everyone,

Great to be back here—it’s been years!

We’re heading to Japan with the family in mid-July and will mostly explore Kyushu for this second trip. We’ll wrap up with 3 days on Yakushima, but we’re planning to fly back to Osaka from Tanegashima after stopping by the space center. To get from Yakushima to Tanegashima, I’ve found two options: - Depart from Miyanoura port and go to Shimama with the Taiyo II ferry, but it arrives a bit too late for us (it gets in at 10:05 AM, and we need to be at the space center by 10:30 AM…) - Depart from Anbo port, but in that case, the boat goes to Nishinoomote, which is all the way at the north of the island—super inconvenient since the space center is at the very south!

Does anyone here know if there’s another way to make the Miyanoura/Shimama trip besides the Taiyo II ferry (like a private boat, a fisherman’s boat, or something else)? It feels silly to go all the way to the north of the island just to head right back down…

Thanks in advance! !

Hi there,

For our second trip to Japan, we’ll be spending 22 full days in Kyushu. 😎 Here’s our draft itinerary:

1 - FUKUOKA 2 - FUKUOKA 3 - FUKUOKA 4 - FUKUOKA / SASEBO / OJIKA 5 - OJIKA 6 - OJIKA / SASEBO / NAGASAKI 7 - NAGASAKI 8 - NAGASAKI 9 - NAGASAKI / KUMAMOTO +++ car rental +++ 10 - KUMAMOTO / ASO 11 - ASO 12 - ASO / KUROKAWA ONSEN 13 - KUROKAWA ONSEN / KUMAMOTO +++ end of car rental +++ 14 - KUMAMOTO / KAGOSHIMA 15 - IBUSUKI / CHIRAN 16 - SAKURAJIMA (car?) 17 - KAGOSHIMA / YAKUSHIMA 18 - YAKUSHIMA (car?) 19 - YAKUSHIMA (car?) 20 - YAKUSHIMA / KAGOSHIMA 21 - ??? 22 - FUKUOKA

We’ve deliberately skipped the eastern part (from Beppu to Miyazaki…)

We still have a few questions about our itinerary:

Car: For most of our travel, we plan to take the train or bus, except in the Aso region where we’ll rent a car. We’re wondering about Sakurajima and Yakushima: is a car necessary there?

Ojika: Would one night be enough?

Yakushima: Are two full days (plus two half-days) sufficient?

If we keep the schedule as is, we have one extra day to fit in somewhere—any suggestions?

Thanks for your help! 🙂

Hello,

What a joy to be back on this forum that I’ve browsed for so many years :-)!

I’m heading to Japan with my partner in November 2025. This will be my second trip there and his first.

I was planning to go from Tokyo to Matsumoto, which I haven’t visited before, and from there, check out Shirahone Onsen and then hike from Magome to Tsumago. However, after reading several travel journals, I’ve realized that the village of Shirakawa-go and its surroundings look amazing. Back in 2006, I visited Takayama, which I loved, but I don’t want to stay there again.

To visit the places mentioned above (Shirahone Onsen, Shirakawa-go, Magome, and Tsumago), I’m thinking that a car might be more convenient than public transport, especially for getting from Shirakawa-go to Magome. Could you confirm if that’s the case? If so, is it easy to rent a car for a few days to do a loop starting from Matsumoto?

Thanks in advance for your valuable tips.

Have a great evening

Hi everyone, Has anyone taken a ferry with a car from Shikoku Island to Oita? Any tips and links to ferry companies would really help. Thanks for your feedback!

Hi there, we’re planning to visit part of Zhangjiajie Park in one day soon. We’re staying in Wellington the night before. My question is about which entrance ticket to get on trip.com. They offer either just the ticket or a combo with the ticket, elevator, and cable car for Tianzi Mountain—not just the entrance and elevator. I’m a bit lost. :)

We want to make the most of the day, starting right when the park opens. If you have a recommended route, that’d be great. I’ve also heard to double-check the shuttle buses inside the park. Anyway, I’m not sure whether to start with the cable car or the elevator.

Thanks for your help, and if you have a map, that’d be awesome too.

Cheers, Olivier

Hi, I’m planning a Paris–Hong Kong round trip with a return from Chongqing to Paris, spanning 28 days in November 2026.

The flight is with Air China, with a few hours’ layover in Beijing each time (I plan to stay inside the airport).

I’ve reread the conditions several times, but since I’m never entirely sure, I’d love your input.

Are we all clear that visa exemptions apply?

For arrival in Hong Kong, crossing the Hong Kong–China land border (via Shenzhen), and the return flight from Chongqing?

Thanks for your insights.

Hi everyone, any hotel recommendations near Fukuoka Airport? I’ve got an early flight to Vietnam the next morning. Thanks so much for your tips!

Hi everyone,

I’d like to know if anyone can recommend a car rental company in Japan. We want to pick up the car in Kyoto and drop it off in Fukuoka. Thanks for your tips!

Hi there, I’m planning to visit Japan in May this year, and I’d love to try doing it without taking a flight. I’m currently in Vietnam, and my plan is to travel to Shanghai and then take a ferry to Osaka. I can’t find any clear info online about whether this is still possible. Most links mention a weekly departure, but when I check the company’s website, it says passenger transport is suspended.

If any of you have more recent info, I’d really appreciate it!

Have a great day! 😊

Hi there,

Since I’m completely unfamiliar with Japanese culture—we’ll be visiting in May—I have this question that might seem silly, but I’d rather not take any chances: I’m planning to wear long shorts (Bermuda shorts) during our trip. Could this be offensive or cause issues for certain visits?

The thing is, I’ll have to wear a knee brace, and it doesn’t stick well to pants but works much better directly on my skin. Since it’s too thick to wear underneath, Bermuda shorts seem like the perfect solution—case closed! Any thoughts?

Best, Caussat

Hi there, We’re heading to southern Japan for 15 days with the family in August. We just checked the train tickets. What a nasty shock! Any tips for traveling on a budget? Thanks

Hello,

I’m reaching out for your help because I’m struggling to figure out the best train and car route for a 25-night trip in Kyushu. Here are the cities I’d like to visit, along with my current itinerary, which doesn’t feel quite right. I’m also wondering where the best places to pick up and drop off the rental car would be. International flights from Osaka + the SL Hitoyoshi train ride are part of the plan.

Current (unsatisfactory) draft itinerary I’m trying to optimize: Day 1: Arrival in Osaka Day 2-3: 2 nights in Osaka Day 4: Osaka to Izumi (Kagoshima Prefecture) via overnight train to Izumi Day 5: Full day in Izumi, overnight in Izumi Day 6: Izumi to Hitoyoshi, stopping via Kumamoto (SL Hitoyoshi train) Day 7: Hitoyoshi Day 8: Ebino + overnight in Kobayashi or Takaharu Day 9: Cape Toi + overnight Day 10: Koshima + overnight near Obi or Miyazaki? Day 11: Nichinan Coast / Obi / Udo Jingu / Aoshima Day 12: Miyazaki Day 13: Aya + overnight in Miyazaki Day 14: Hyuga + overnight in Nobeoka Day 15: Around Nobeoka + overnight in Nobeoka Day 16: Shiiba + overnight in Shiiba Day 17: Shiiba + drive to Yamaga + overnight Day 18: Yamaga Day 19: Yamaga Day 20-22: Amakusa Day 23: Kumamoto Day 24: Kumamoto + overnight in Osaka Day 25: Departure for France

Does this seem balanced? Are there any ways to optimize travel times or the logical flow of the route? Where should I pick up and drop off the rental car?

Thanks in advance if anyone can help me think this through!

Hi there, I’d like to spend the day in Yamaga starting from Kumamoto. I’m wondering how to get there using public transport. I see there’s a train and then a bus, but I can’t find any precise info on the bus schedules for the round trip. I’ve already checked Navitime. Thanks for your help

Hi everyone,

I’m planning to return to Japan for 15 days in April. This will be my second trip there. I’m starting to think about my itinerary.

I arrive in Tokyo in the evening and will spend one night there before taking the train to Hiroshima. I’ll stay in Hiroshima for 2 nights. Then, I’m heading to Kyoto (there are still so many beautiful things I want to see there), and I think I’ll stay for 3 nights. I also want to go back to Nara to visit the Pink Temple (probably in the morning before heading back to Kyoto).

And after that? I’d like to return to Hakone to try and catch a glimpse of Mount Fuji (I didn’t see it last time—it was cloudy). I’m thinking of staying one night there, probably in Odawara.

And then? I’ll head back to Tokyo and take the train to explore the surrounding areas and spend the day at some sites?

While in Tokyo, I want to visit Yokohama. I went to Kamakura last time and really loved it, but I don’t think I’ll go back.

I’ll end my trip in Tokyo, with my second-to-last night at the Muji Hotel and my last night near the airport.

That’s the plan so far—I’m open to your suggestions and itinerary tips!

Thanks in advance.

Hi everyone, and thanks to all the contributors on this Japan forum who’ll help me prepare an upcoming trip with my wife in October–November this year. We’ve already been to Japan before, back in 2013 for 15 days in August, visiting the major tourist hubs: Tokyo, Kyoto, Nara, Himeji, and Ogimachi. This time, we’re taking more time—about a month—with the following points of interest: Start of the trip with a few days in Tokyo Osaka International Exposition on October 11–12, 2025 Jidai Matsuri Festival in KYOTO on October 22, 2025 Karatsu Kunchi Festival from November 2–4 Our goal is to blend into the crowd and make connections in festive atmospheres. Do these stops sound interesting to you? Is it a good idea to stay in a central location between October 10 and 23 to get to the Osaka Expo and the Jidai Matsuri Festival in Kyoto using public transport, and to explore the region in between? Between Kyoto and the KARATSU Festival from October 23 to November 1, we’re thinking of traveling by shinkansen with a stopover for a few days to visit Hiroshima and the surrounding area. Looking forward to your thoughts if you have time—this is just a first draft, and we’d love to dive into more details.

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Hi there,

A few friends and I are planning our trip to Japan for next autumn. This will be my first time traveling, which is why we’ve decided to go for a big trip of at least 2 months, maybe even 3.

So far, we’ve estimated the budget to be between 7,000 and 10,000 € per person for the stay. I’m not sure if that’s too high or too low, considering we’ll be moving around a lot.

Here’s a summary of the route we’d like to take:

First, we definitely want to visit the classics like Tokyo, Kyoto, etc. Then head toward Mount Fuji with Fujiyoshida and the surrounding area. We’d also like to visit some less touristy, more authentic spots like the Wakayama region. We’d like to check out some mountain or countryside villages like Shirakawa-go for a few hikes. We’re still debating whether to visit Miyajima and Hiroshima since we’re not sure we’ll have enough time. And we sadly had to cut Hokkaido from our list for the same reason.

I won’t go into every detail since we’ve mapped out over twenty places, but those are the main highlights.

As for our travel style:

We want to take our time. Not try to cram in as much as possible without any breaks or enjoyment. Most of the time, we’ll be staying in Airbnbs and youth hostels. For food, we’ll mix it up between restaurants, pre-made meals, and cooking our own. For transportation, we’re considering renting a car to reach villages in the countryside. (I’m a bit nervous about the road rules over there.) For activities, one or two a day seems reasonable. (Both free and paid ones.) But I have no idea how much souvenirs might cost. I’ve often read on forums that it’s between 200 and 600 €?

My questions:

So, that’s the plan. We’re not sure yet if we’ll go for two or three months. It’ll mostly come down to money. We want to be mindful of our budget but still treat ourselves—no regrets about missing out on an activity or restaurant we really wanted to try.

Do you have any advice or suggestions for us? What do you think of our itinerary? For flight tickets, I’m estimating between 650 and 900 € for a round trip. Does that sound about right? But I have no idea which airline to choose?

Thanks so much to anyone who replies—I’d really appreciate it!

Hi,

Well, I think the title says it all! I'm currently in Sapa and want to get to the Lao Cai border to head toward Kunming. For this route, I only see trains—one at 8:20 AM and the other at 9 AM. Are there any other means of transport to get to Kunming or go directly to Dali or Lijiang? Thanks for your quick replies since I'm leaving soon! Magos

Hi there, I’m scheduled to land in Guiyang on April 6th at 3:00 PM. Since I don’t have much time there, I’d like to head straight to Zhenyuan. Unfortunately, the last train leaves at 2:06 PM. Do you know if taxis go all the way to Zhenyuan? Otherwise, there are buses, but I think I’d have to transfer in Kaili? Thanks

hi everyone

I’m planning a trip to Japan from May 11 to 26 with Air China.

I’ll be taking Ouigo from Lyon for both the outbound and return trips to get to Roissy CDG.

For the outbound TGV from Lyon, I’ll arrive at Roissy with plenty of time—at least 6 or 7 hours before my 8:30 PM flight (Paris to Beijing, then Beijing to Tokyo). For the return on May 26, I was wondering what time you’d recommend booking my train to Lyon, given that I’ll land at CDG at 7:30 AM (flight from Tokyo). I was thinking of booking a train leaving at 11:00 AM from the SNCF station at CDG to Lyon Saint-Exupéry—does that seem too tight based on your experience?

This is my first time traveling this far with a layover in Beijing, and I’m not familiar with Roissy CDG Airport at all.

Thanks for your advice!

Does anyone know if you can access Google, etc. in China with this plan and avoid needing to use a VPN?

Hi everyone, So great to be back on this forum😉

I just lightened my wallet by 3000 € for 3 tickets: Paris > Tokyo > Osaka > Paris (well, not just mine—I’m exaggerating, there are two of us). For my daughter’s 10th birthday, we’re heading to Japan—it’s her "decade gift," though I thought she’d pick London🏴‍☠️. But I’ve been dreaming of going back to Japan since my 2013 trip, so I’ll admit this trip is (a lot) for me too. We’re traveling during school holidays, so the ticket prices are unfortunately sky-high. Maybe I could’ve gotten a better deal if I’d waited, but who knows... oh well, it’s done now. We leave at the end of October, so we still have a few months to prepare. That said, I’d rather start early to make sure we don’t miss anything (like the Ghibli Museum—I couldn’t go last time, and anyway, I’ll have to wait until September to book). Last time, there were three adults, so it was pretty straightforward. Eleven years later, well, now it’s two adults with a 10-year-old😛.

So I’m wondering how many days to spend in Tokyo. My daughter idealizes the city (that’s why she wants to go to Japan), and she’s really drawn to Japanese culture and food. Actually, what first got her interested in Japan were all the *kawaii* character products... Tokyo is such a fascinating city, but it can also be exhausting—especially for a kid, and I’m not sure what to expect. Beyond Tokyo, honestly, I’m not entirely sure. I was thinking of Hakone and maybe stopping by Fujikyu Highlands. Then heading down to Osaka for a few days in Kyoto before flying home (our return flight is from Osaka). We only have 11 days there (not counting the arrival day, and since our flight leaves at 11:30 PM on departure day, we’ll have the whole day), so it’s not a ton of time. I already spent a week in Kyoto on my last trip (huge crush on it), and I’d love to have two months there, but... well, you know how it is.

For example: 5 days in Tokyo 2 days in Hakone 4 days in Osaka/Kyoto

What do you think? If you’ve done this trip with kids, do you have any tips for family-friendly accommodations in Tokyo and Hakone? My daughter would love to try an onsen. We have a decent budget, but it’s not unlimited. We’d like to book as we go to spread out the costs a bit.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts

Hello everyone, what a pleasure to be back on this forum!

My partner and I are heading to Japan for the first time from mid-December to mid-January for 31 days. It’s a long-held dream we’ve been saving for over two years, and we want to enjoy ourselves while also being mindful of our budget for parts of the trip. We’d love to explore Tokyo, but we’ve chosen to spend more time in nature. My partner plans to get his driver’s license translated locally so we can rent a car. We’ve heard from friends who’ve been that Japan isn’t the best place for improvisation, so we’ve tried to allow plenty of time in each location to avoid rushing. Still, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the itinerary we’ve planned—whether it’s feasible in terms of travel and how interesting it seems. Given the recent increase in the JR Pass price and the fact that we’ll spend about ten days on Goto, Ojika, and Yakushima (where the JR Pass doesn’t cover travel), we don’t think it’s worth it for us. Instead, we’re planning to take the train from Tokyo to Fukuoka and then use buses and ferries for the rest of Kyushu. Here’s our itinerary:

1- December 13 / Arrival in Tokyo, one night in Tokyo, then departure for Fukuoka by train on the morning of the 14th.

2 - December 14-16 / 2 nights in Fukuoka, sightseeing, then departure on the evening/night of the 16th by ferry to Ojika Islands.

3 - December 17-21 / 4 nights on Ojika, cycling and exploring, then departure on the 21st by ferry to Fukue on the Goto Islands.

4 - December 21-24 / 3 nights on the Goto Islands, renting a car to explore, maybe a trip to Hisaka. Departure for Nagasaki by ferry on the morning of the 24th.

5- December 24-26 / 2 nights in Nagasaki, visiting the city and memorials, possibly the hot springs in Unzen. Departure on the evening of the 26th by bus or ferry (?) to Kumamoto.

6- December 26-29 / 3 nights in Kumamoto, sightseeing, day trip by car to Mount Aso and surrounding areas. Departure on the 29th in the late afternoon by bus to Kagoshima, overnight in Kagoshima.

7- December 30 to January 2 / Morning departure by ferry to Yakushima for 3 nights, hiking and exploring the island. Departure on January 2 on the only ferry (?) in the early afternoon back to Kagoshima.

8- January 2 to 5 / Uncertain leg... We’d like to spend the night of the 4th to the 5th at a ryokan in Kurokawa Onsen and then head back to Fukuoka and Tokyo by train on the 5th. From the 2nd to the 4th, since we’ll arrive in Kagoshima in the late afternoon, we thought we could head back up to Kumamoto by train or bus—going to Yufuin or Beppu would take much longer and leave us with very little time. But is it worth staying another 2 nights in Kumamoto to explore the area, given we’ll already be there for 3 days from December 26-29? Or should we stay in Kagoshima and head up to Kurokawa Onsen on the afternoon of the 4th for our overnight stay?

9- January 5 to 13, Tokyo and its endless things to do and see, then back to France!

If you have any advice on any of these stops, we’d love to hear it! Have a wonderful day.

Hi there,

We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.

Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴‍☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?

Thanks for your help!

Hi everyone, I’m Julien! This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time! I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.

Here are the routes I’m considering:

**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**

Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)

**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**

Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night

**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**

Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night

A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.

Hello everyone, Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips. I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:

Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai

But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.