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Best time at the end of the year to visit Mexico?
Hello,
When’s the best week at the end of the year to go back to Mexico?
Cheers,
Jean Pierre
Visiting the Yucatán by train
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Malaysia or Mexico for a family trip: nature, beach, and culture?
Hi everyone!
We’re a family of 4: 2 adults and 2 kids aged 3 and 6.
I’m looking for a nature-beach-culture destination for May 2026. Right now, I’m torn between Mexico and Malaysia. I’ve read about the Yucatán, for example—it’s easy for a first trip to Mexico, but I’m worried I won’t get that authentic Mexican vibe, especially if we have to rent a car. I don’t want our trip to just be a checklist of beautiful sites. I love Asia for the atmosphere and the ease of traveling independently. Anyway, can you share your thoughts on these two destinations and help me with my research? Thanks!
Hélène
Chiapas - San Cristobal to Palenque route (Mexico)
I’d like to visit Chiapas this summer with my husband and my son (young adult). After a few days in San Cristobal and the surrounding area, we want to take a bus to Palenque.
I’ve heard conflicting things about the danger of being stopped on the road by revolutionaries. We’re planning to take a daytime bus. Is the most direct route safe, or is it wiser to take the long detour via Villahermosa?
If you’ve made this trip recently, could you share your thoughts?
Thanks
Planning a colonial cities circuit in Mexico
I want to do a circuit of the colonial cities in Mexico
Free app for group travel expenses
Hi there!
Every year, I go on vacation with my family (there are a lot of us), and we used to use Splitwise. With their recent updates, we’re a bit frustrated because we’re limited in adding our expenses.
Do you have any other alternatives (preferably free ones)? My son suggested Tricount, but I’ve never heard of it before!
PS: If you have any tips for Mexico City this year, we’d love to hear them!
Thanks!
The Tren Maya
TREN MAYA in Yucatán
We’re just back from our 7th or 8th trip to the Yucatán since 1971, and it’ll probably be our last (a little tear). We’ve crisscrossed the peninsula many times, but this post isn’t about listing the countless wonders to visit—there are already plenty of articles on that part of Mexico. For this trip, we chose to travel by train to try out this new way of getting around.
The TREN MAYA routes roughly follow the coast in a loop: Cancún – Valladolid – Mérida – Campeche – Escárcega – Chetumal – Tulum – Playa del Carmen – Cancún, with the main stations listed here and usually 2 or 3 stops in between. A branch line runs from Escárcega to Palenque. We only traveled the Cancún – Mérida – Escárcega – Palenque section, as the loop via Chetumal wasn’t open when we planned our trip. Besides, Chetumal itself isn’t very interesting. However, the Escárcega–Chetumal route has lots of Maya sites worth visiting.
The tracks, stations, and rolling stock are all brand new. The Tulum–Mérida section opened in early 2024, and the full loop was inaugurated at the end of 2024. The trains currently consist of 4 tourist-class cars and 2 first-class cars. I imagine this setup might change, since first class was nearly empty while tourist class was between 25% and 70% full, depending on the time and route.
The cars are designed by Alstom and built in Mexico, with the same seating layout as in France: 2+2 in tourist class and 2+1 in first class. The seats are a bit more comfortable than in France for tourist class and slightly firmer in first class.
The track is very well laid on the Cancún–Mérida–Escárcega section we traveled: no jolts at all. However, the Escárcega–Palenque branch is likely built with short rails, so I don’t think it’ll support very high speeds. The line is single-track except for the Cancún–Valladolid–Mérida stretch, which is double-track, and electrification is underway. Signaling is also being installed—the targets are in place but not yet operational. Given the current low traffic, we weren’t too worried.
The trains are diesel-electric hybrids and very quiet in diesel mode. I clocked a speed of 140 km/h, and they say it’ll reach 200 km/h once electrified.
Now, the stations: *grand* is the word that comes to mind. The architects did an amazing job aesthetically—it reminds us of Canfranc, with the same spirit 150 years apart, using marble (?) for the flooring. Technically, though, at least in Valladolid station, it’s a miss—they’ve already added unattractive metal reinforcements to the concrete framework barely a year after the inauguration.
Practical info: Tickets can be bought online on the Tren Maya website.
But contrary to what the *Routard* guide says, you can only book about a week in advance. So, we bought our tickets for the first leg, Cancún–Valladolid, from France, and then got the rest at the station a few days ahead. It seems there’s no ticket sales in travel agencies.
Arrive at the station about 20–30 minutes early, as there are airport-style security checks. Right now, the staff are still getting the hang of the baggage scanners and metal detectors, which can be a bit amusing.
Important note: This is a completely new rail network, so the tracks—and especially the stations—are far from city centers. To get downtown, you’ll need to take a shuttle or a taxi.
Here’s the breakdown for station-to-downtown travel: - **Cancún**: There are shuttles between the airports and the station (35 MXN/person). Taxis are pricier than in NYC: 50 € (1000 MXN) for a 10-minute ride—it’s an organized scam, but at least it’s clean, which is more than you can say for Cancún. If you’re staying at a hotel in Cancún or Playa del Carmen, make sure to arrange the hotel shuttle in advance. - **Valladolid**: 15 minutes from downtown, 150 MXN by taxi, or 36 MXN/person by shuttle, which drops you 3 *cuadras* (a *cuadra* = a block ≈ 100 m) from the center. - **Mérida**: 30 minutes from downtown, 300 MXN by taxi, or 50 MXN/person by shuttle, which drops you 7 or 8 *cuadras* from the center. The ticket agent told us it was just 1 *cuadra* (and we’re perfectly bilingual, so no confusion), but dragging suitcases over broken sidewalks in 33°C heat with no taxis in sight? Not great. So, for Mérida, just take a taxi. - **Campeche**: 10 minutes from downtown, 50 MXN by shuttle, which drops you right in the center (at the *Malecón*, across from the Gamma Hotel). We didn’t see any taxis at the station. - **Palenque**: Most hotels are outside the city center, so a taxi is a must—around 150 to 250 MXN.
Don’t forget to agree on the taxi fare with the driver before getting in.
For Tren Maya fares, there’s a rate for non-Mexican residents and several others for residents based on income. Here are the non-resident fares per person: - Cancún – Valladolid: 472 MXN (539 MXN on the return) - Valladolid – Mérida: 505.50 MXN (553 MXN on the return) - Mérida – Campeche: 574 MXN - Campeche – Palenque: 1300 MXN - Escárcega – Palenque: 789 MXN
The main reason we chose the train over renting a car (our usual go-to) was that on our last trip, just before COVID in 2020, the rental company refused to insure us in Chiapas due to safety concerns. So, we had to skip Palenque—but with the Tren Maya, it became possible again. The big downside of the train is that you need shuttles or taxis to visit all the Maya sites, which adds up in cost and time.
**Conclusion**: If you add up the train fares, taxis, etc., it might be better to rent a car for the whole trip and leave it in a hotel parking lot in Campeche or Escárcega for a couple of days if you want to visit Palenque. Then, take the train for a round trip between Campeche–Palenque or Escárcega–Palenque.
Safe travels! *
The TREN MAYA routes roughly follow the coast in a loop: Cancún – Valladolid – Mérida – Campeche – Escárcega – Chetumal – Tulum – Playa del Carmen – Cancún, with the main stations listed here and usually 2 or 3 stops in between. A branch line runs from Escárcega to Palenque. We only traveled the Cancún – Mérida – Escárcega – Palenque section, as the loop via Chetumal wasn’t open when we planned our trip. Besides, Chetumal itself isn’t very interesting. However, the Escárcega–Chetumal route has lots of Maya sites worth visiting.
The tracks, stations, and rolling stock are all brand new. The Tulum–Mérida section opened in early 2024, and the full loop was inaugurated at the end of 2024. The trains currently consist of 4 tourist-class cars and 2 first-class cars. I imagine this setup might change, since first class was nearly empty while tourist class was between 25% and 70% full, depending on the time and route.
The cars are designed by Alstom and built in Mexico, with the same seating layout as in France: 2+2 in tourist class and 2+1 in first class. The seats are a bit more comfortable than in France for tourist class and slightly firmer in first class.
The track is very well laid on the Cancún–Mérida–Escárcega section we traveled: no jolts at all. However, the Escárcega–Palenque branch is likely built with short rails, so I don’t think it’ll support very high speeds. The line is single-track except for the Cancún–Valladolid–Mérida stretch, which is double-track, and electrification is underway. Signaling is also being installed—the targets are in place but not yet operational. Given the current low traffic, we weren’t too worried.
The trains are diesel-electric hybrids and very quiet in diesel mode. I clocked a speed of 140 km/h, and they say it’ll reach 200 km/h once electrified.
Now, the stations: *grand* is the word that comes to mind. The architects did an amazing job aesthetically—it reminds us of Canfranc, with the same spirit 150 years apart, using marble (?) for the flooring. Technically, though, at least in Valladolid station, it’s a miss—they’ve already added unattractive metal reinforcements to the concrete framework barely a year after the inauguration.
Practical info: Tickets can be bought online on the Tren Maya website.
But contrary to what the *Routard* guide says, you can only book about a week in advance. So, we bought our tickets for the first leg, Cancún–Valladolid, from France, and then got the rest at the station a few days ahead. It seems there’s no ticket sales in travel agencies.
Arrive at the station about 20–30 minutes early, as there are airport-style security checks. Right now, the staff are still getting the hang of the baggage scanners and metal detectors, which can be a bit amusing.
Important note: This is a completely new rail network, so the tracks—and especially the stations—are far from city centers. To get downtown, you’ll need to take a shuttle or a taxi.
Here’s the breakdown for station-to-downtown travel: - **Cancún**: There are shuttles between the airports and the station (35 MXN/person). Taxis are pricier than in NYC: 50 € (1000 MXN) for a 10-minute ride—it’s an organized scam, but at least it’s clean, which is more than you can say for Cancún. If you’re staying at a hotel in Cancún or Playa del Carmen, make sure to arrange the hotel shuttle in advance. - **Valladolid**: 15 minutes from downtown, 150 MXN by taxi, or 36 MXN/person by shuttle, which drops you 3 *cuadras* (a *cuadra* = a block ≈ 100 m) from the center. - **Mérida**: 30 minutes from downtown, 300 MXN by taxi, or 50 MXN/person by shuttle, which drops you 7 or 8 *cuadras* from the center. The ticket agent told us it was just 1 *cuadra* (and we’re perfectly bilingual, so no confusion), but dragging suitcases over broken sidewalks in 33°C heat with no taxis in sight? Not great. So, for Mérida, just take a taxi. - **Campeche**: 10 minutes from downtown, 50 MXN by shuttle, which drops you right in the center (at the *Malecón*, across from the Gamma Hotel). We didn’t see any taxis at the station. - **Palenque**: Most hotels are outside the city center, so a taxi is a must—around 150 to 250 MXN.
Don’t forget to agree on the taxi fare with the driver before getting in.
For Tren Maya fares, there’s a rate for non-Mexican residents and several others for residents based on income. Here are the non-resident fares per person: - Cancún – Valladolid: 472 MXN (539 MXN on the return) - Valladolid – Mérida: 505.50 MXN (553 MXN on the return) - Mérida – Campeche: 574 MXN - Campeche – Palenque: 1300 MXN - Escárcega – Palenque: 789 MXN
The main reason we chose the train over renting a car (our usual go-to) was that on our last trip, just before COVID in 2020, the rental company refused to insure us in Chiapas due to safety concerns. So, we had to skip Palenque—but with the Tren Maya, it became possible again. The big downside of the train is that you need shuttles or taxis to visit all the Maya sites, which adds up in cost and time.
**Conclusion**: If you add up the train fares, taxis, etc., it might be better to rent a car for the whole trip and leave it in a hotel parking lot in Campeche or Escárcega for a couple of days if you want to visit Palenque. Then, take the train for a round trip between Campeche–Palenque or Escárcega–Palenque.
Safe travels! *
9-Day Road Trip in the Yucatán Peninsula
Hi everyone,
In late February to early March 2025, we were lucky enough to spend about ten days in Mexico—heading to Cancún. We then embarked on a 9-day road trip to explore the Yucatán Peninsula! Since planning a trip isn’t always easy, we’re sharing our original itinerary (different from the "classic" loop) and our feedback on the places we visited.
With a few photos to illustrate each day, we hope to wow you 🙂! Here’s our loop itinerary starting from Cancún (a packed schedule, but it let us see so much): Day 1 - Cancún’s beach and Holbox Island
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Day 2 - Holbox Island and the fishing village of Río Lagartos
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Day 3 - The Río Lagartos nature reserve, Las Coloradas salt flats, the Ek'Balam Mayan site, the church of Uayma, and the colonial city of Valladolid
With a few photos to illustrate each day, we hope to wow you 🙂! Here’s our loop itinerary starting from Cancún (a packed schedule, but it let us see so much): Day 1 - Cancún’s beach and Holbox Island
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Day 2 - Holbox Island and the fishing village of Río Lagartos
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Day 3 - The Río Lagartos nature reserve, Las Coloradas salt flats, the Ek'Balam Mayan site, the church of Uayma, and the colonial city of Valladolid
Which countries offer good dental care?
Without limiting ourselves to the countries mentioned above—Turkey and others could be added to the list.
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
Trip to Oaxaca & Pacific Coast: Transportation Tips and Activity Ideas
Hello!
I’ve just got two tickets for my partner and me to spend 18 days starting from Oaxaca. We arrive on the morning of 10/27 and leave on the afternoon of 11/13.
I’ve already booked a lodge for 7 nights about 20 km from Oaxaca. The idea is to be nearby, especially for Día de los Muertos, which my partner has been dreaming about.
I’ve got a few questions:
- First, do you think renting a car is essential, or are the local bus networks (around Oaxaca) dense and reliable enough? - Roughly how much do taxi rides cost? - After our stay in Oaxaca (where the schedule is still flexible), I plan to head to the Pacific coast around Mazunte, with a goal of visiting a lagoon at night to swim in the bioluminescent algae and possibly witness turtle hatchings. But so far, I haven’t noted much else. Any suggestions for things to do/see around Mazunte, or along the route between Oaxaca and the Pacific coast?
Thanks in advance for your advice—I’ll definitely be back with more questions! :)
I’ve just got two tickets for my partner and me to spend 18 days starting from Oaxaca. We arrive on the morning of 10/27 and leave on the afternoon of 11/13.
I’ve already booked a lodge for 7 nights about 20 km from Oaxaca. The idea is to be nearby, especially for Día de los Muertos, which my partner has been dreaming about.
I’ve got a few questions:
- First, do you think renting a car is essential, or are the local bus networks (around Oaxaca) dense and reliable enough? - Roughly how much do taxi rides cost? - After our stay in Oaxaca (where the schedule is still flexible), I plan to head to the Pacific coast around Mazunte, with a goal of visiting a lagoon at night to swim in the bioluminescent algae and possibly witness turtle hatchings. But so far, I haven’t noted much else. Any suggestions for things to do/see around Mazunte, or along the route between Oaxaca and the Pacific coast?
Thanks in advance for your advice—I’ll definitely be back with more questions! :)
Reliability of Air Europa for flights to Mexico
Hi there,
We’re heading to Mexico in May, and I’d love to know if any of you have flown with this airline before and what you thought of it.
Thanks for your feedback!
Mexico Trip Itinerary: Mexico City, Puebla, Oaxaca, Pacific Coast
Hi there,
We’re planning a 15-day family trip in February 2026 (with 3 teens). We’ll be visiting friends who live in Puebla. Initially, I was thinking of the Yucatán, but after reading up on it, I don’t think it’s the right fit for us (too crowded, too touristy). So, we’re leaning toward something like this: - Mexico City: 2 days (Teotihuacán + city) - Puebla: 3 days - Tehuacán: 2 days (to break up the trip—is this a good choice? Is there enough to do for 2 days?) - Oaxaca: 3 days (Hierve el Agua, Monte Albán, city/tours) - Pacific Coast: 4 days (snorkeling, excursions)
Does this seem balanced? We’d like to end on the coast for some relaxation, ocean time, and fun for the kids. I’ve seen lots of excursions offered along the coast but can’t decide where to stay. Puerto Escondido? Huatulco? The beaches seem better for snorkeling in Huatulco, but I’ve read mixed things, and it’s farther away. What do you think?
For transportation, is this doable by bus? I’m struggling to find a decent bus between Tehuacán and Oaxaca (overnight schedules), and I’m not sure how to get around the coast. Also, how do we handle luggage between cities? We usually rent a car.
Finally, I’d love feedback on the Pacific Coast excursions—I get the feeling some are worth it and others aren’t. Is bioluminescence really magical? Are dolphin-watching tours ethical and not too "factory-like"? (We skipped them in Quebec and just watched whales from shore.) Can you see sea turtles up close?
Thanks for your help!
We’re planning a 15-day family trip in February 2026 (with 3 teens). We’ll be visiting friends who live in Puebla. Initially, I was thinking of the Yucatán, but after reading up on it, I don’t think it’s the right fit for us (too crowded, too touristy). So, we’re leaning toward something like this: - Mexico City: 2 days (Teotihuacán + city) - Puebla: 3 days - Tehuacán: 2 days (to break up the trip—is this a good choice? Is there enough to do for 2 days?) - Oaxaca: 3 days (Hierve el Agua, Monte Albán, city/tours) - Pacific Coast: 4 days (snorkeling, excursions)
Does this seem balanced? We’d like to end on the coast for some relaxation, ocean time, and fun for the kids. I’ve seen lots of excursions offered along the coast but can’t decide where to stay. Puerto Escondido? Huatulco? The beaches seem better for snorkeling in Huatulco, but I’ve read mixed things, and it’s farther away. What do you think?
For transportation, is this doable by bus? I’m struggling to find a decent bus between Tehuacán and Oaxaca (overnight schedules), and I’m not sure how to get around the coast. Also, how do we handle luggage between cities? We usually rent a car.
Finally, I’d love feedback on the Pacific Coast excursions—I get the feeling some are worth it and others aren’t. Is bioluminescence really magical? Are dolphin-watching tours ethical and not too "factory-like"? (We skipped them in Quebec and just watched whales from shore.) Can you see sea turtles up close?
Thanks for your help!
Best time to visit the Yucatan with family?
Hi,
We had to cancel our trip to the Yucatan in April 2025.
So now I’m looking at 2026. But since it’s tricky to take time off during the April school holidays (we have young kids, so we have to travel around school vacation periods), what would be the best alternative time (we’re in Zone B)?
February break: end of February / early March All Saints' break: end of October / early November Summer vacation (but I don’t think that’s ideal). I’m not mentioning Christmas—it’ll be too expensive.
Thanks,
February break: end of February / early March All Saints' break: end of October / early November Summer vacation (but I don’t think that’s ideal). I’m not mentioning Christmas—it’ll be too expensive.
Thanks,
Entering Mexico without a return ticket
Hi, does anyone know if it’s necessary to have a return ticket to go to Mexico? I’d like to go there—I’ve bought a one-way ticket and plan to cross the border by bus to Guatemala. I’m worried they won’t let me board the plane if I don’t have a return ticket.
Ed
Waiting period between two stays in Mexico
Hi,
Currently, it's possible to travel for 180 days in Mexico without a visa (just with a valid passport for French nationals). Could you please tell me, when a traveler leaves Mexico after staying for 180 days, how long they need to wait before re-entering by air? Thanks so much for your feedback. liza
Currently, it's possible to travel for 180 days in Mexico without a visa (just with a valid passport for French nationals). Could you please tell me, when a traveler leaves Mexico after staying for 180 days, how long they need to wait before re-entering by air? Thanks so much for your feedback. liza
Sargassum in Playa del Carmen in July
Hi everyone,
we’re thinking of heading to Playa del Carmen, Mexico, in early July 2025, but a few people have warned us against it because of the sargassum. Is it really that bad?
What to do in Playa del Carmen?
Hey everyone reading my post!
I’ll be in Mexico, specifically in Playa del Carmen and Tulum, from March 11 to April 2.
I’m looking online for things to do, but they all seem pretty similar—I’m after something a bit more original but don’t wanna get ripped off either!
If you’ve had any great experiences in those areas, feel free to share them. Thanks in advance!
Mexico: The Magic of the Yucatán
Hello everyone,
What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!
Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.
Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!
The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.
And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...
1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks
Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.
Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.
The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.
Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.
There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.
The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.
The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.
A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...
When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!
An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.
Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.
We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...
When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.
On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.
The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.
On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.
The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.
We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.
And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.
But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?
So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.
One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.
I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.
At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.
Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.
Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.
Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.
On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.
If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.
On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...
To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...
We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.
Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.
In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.
Boat reversing a meter away from a pelican
And for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.
A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.
On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.
Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!
As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.
We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.
Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...
What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!
Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.
Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!
The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.
And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...
1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks
Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.
Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.
The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.
Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.
There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.
The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.
The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.
A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...
When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!
An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.
Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.
We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...
When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.
On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.
The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.
On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.
The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.
We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.
And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.
But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?
So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.
One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.
I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.
At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.
Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.
Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.
Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.
On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.
If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.
On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...
To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...
We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.
Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.
In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.
Boat reversing a meter away from a pelicanAnd for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.
A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.
On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.
Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!
As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.
We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.
Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...
Stay at Hotel Sian Kan in the Riviera Maya: your thoughts?
Hi there,
I’m planning a stay at the Sian Kan in the Riviera Maya and was wondering if anyone’s been there recently. If so, are the location, welcome, services, and food still as excellent as they used to be? I’ve heard that since the train between Cancun and Tulum was built, things might have gone downhill.
Thanks for your feedback!
Lise
Route 200 - From Puerto Vallarta to Puerto Escondido
Hi there,
I’m leaving in February and want to explore the West Coast via Route 200 from Puerto Vallarta to Puerto Escondido.
- For transport, I don’t want to rent a car. I’d like to travel the coast using *colectivos* from village to village over a few weeks. Are they available everywhere along the coast? Is this doable, or is it unrealistic? If not, is it possible to do it by bus? Do they stop everywhere?
- Do you have any places, accommodations, beaches, attractions, or great tips of any kind to recommend along this route?
- Regarding safety, do you have any concerns about certain areas? Guerrero and Michoacán don’t exactly have a great reputation, and neither does Acapulco… Should I be worried?
- Any other relevant info is welcome! 😄
Thanks for your advice!
P.S.: Really happy the forum’s back up. Thanks
I’m leaving in February and want to explore the West Coast via Route 200 from Puerto Vallarta to Puerto Escondido.
- For transport, I don’t want to rent a car. I’d like to travel the coast using *colectivos* from village to village over a few weeks. Are they available everywhere along the coast? Is this doable, or is it unrealistic? If not, is it possible to do it by bus? Do they stop everywhere?
- Do you have any places, accommodations, beaches, attractions, or great tips of any kind to recommend along this route?
- Regarding safety, do you have any concerns about certain areas? Guerrero and Michoacán don’t exactly have a great reputation, and neither does Acapulco… Should I be worried?
- Any other relevant info is welcome! 😄
Thanks for your advice!
P.S.: Really happy the forum’s back up. Thanks
