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Bangkok premiere fois English translation pending
by Primoangelo · 2005-02-22 · 9 replies
Bonjour moi et mon ami preparons petit a petit notre premier voyage en "routard".

Dans notre programme, nous avions prevu de rester 2 jours entier à Bangkok.

Voila ce que nous avions prevu de faire pendant 1 seul jour : Marché flottant a coté du musée national. (vaut- il le coup ? yen a t-il un mieu ? dans ce coin là) Les classiques : palais royal, wat pra, wat po sanam luan meuang wat trimit Chiantown palais vinanmek musee des elephants zoo de dursit (ca vo le coup ?)

Quels sont lles choses que l'on pourrait faire pour le 2eme jour a bangkok

=> Cela peut paraitre trés chargé mais disons que mon amie veut tout voir lol.

Nous recherchons aussi des bons plans pour les soirs,

Nous avons repéré un diner croisiére si qq a deja fait, bien ou pas ? un match de boxe thai enfin si vous avez d'autre idée pour le soir ce sont les bienvenues.

Dernier truc, nous disposons d'un budget de 500 bath pour la nuit et nous souhaitons dormir dans khao san pour des raisons pratiques.

QQ aurait un boon hotel dans lequel il aurait été dans ces prix là .

Merci de vos futurs reponse j'espere.
Vos avis sur un circuit en Thaïlande English translation pending
by Cindyettof · 2005-02-16 · 15 replies
Allez, c'est décidé, je me lance pour un dernier message avant de programmer définitivement mon voyage en thailande (si vos avis sont positifs sur ce circuit!!!)... Voici mon programme :

Jour 1 : arrivée à Bangkok et installation à l'hotel choisi (century park)...oui, je sais, je devrais choisir un guesthouse ou un hotel moins cher, mais bon, mon compagnon préfère ce genre d'hotel, même si le prix n'est pas le même! Il veut plus de confort, une piscine pour les fins de journée, ... Que voulez-vous!!! Quant on est deux, il faut satisfaire tous les goûts(hihi).

Jour 2 : visite de Chinatown et du wat traimit; suivi de l'ancienne cité royale (wat arun, wat po, ...), pour terminer avec une balade sur les klongs en bateau. Je pense qu'il s'agit d'une bonne première journée de visite, non ?

Jour 3 : Direction Damnoen saduak pour son marché flottant, avec arrêt au rose garden et Nakhon Pathom. Que dire ? C'est une des excursions qui me fait le plus envie! Un marché original, un spectacle en plein air et un repas dans un jardin d'orchidées et de roses!

En fin de journée, nous prendrons le train couchette pour Chiang Mai.

Jour 4 : direction le park hotel de chiang mai, avant de faire une rencontre avec les artisans du Nord.

Jour 5 : Direction Chiang Rai avec arrêt aux sources thermales, puis visite de deux tribus (Akhas et Yao). Arrivée au triange d'or. Retour vers Chiang Mai avec arrêt au royaume de Lanna. Le soir, petite promenade à dos d'éléphant. N'est-ce pas trop de route pour ne voir qu'une frontière fluviale ? Ais-je raison d'aller jusqu'au triangle d'or ???

Jour 6 : Visite du Doï Suthep au matin et journée à gambader dans la ville de Chiang Mai. Il y a tellement de belles choses à voir à Chiang Mai, que je n'ai pas encore ciblé mes visites de cette journée... Mais on verra...

Jour 7 : Nous passerons une journée dans la nature avec quelques activités (promenade à dos d'éléphant, descente de la rivière en radeau, ...) Encore une excursion qui me tient très à coeur...

Jour 8 : Route en bus vers Phitsanuloke... installation à l'hotel Amarin Lagoon. Petit repos au bord de la piscine l'après-midi, après une longue route (6h de bus, je pense ? ).

Jour 9 : Phitsanuloke --> visite du Wat Phra Sri, promenade dans le centre ville

Sukhotai --> ruines de l'ancien royaume

Jour 10 : Route en bus vers Kanchanaburi (Felix River Kwai hotel)... en soirée, nous envisageons de réserver une excursion qui nous permettra de prendre le souper en bordure de rivière avec les éléphants, puis de faire une balade nocturne sur ces animaux.

Jour 11 : chemin de fer, cimetière, ... Puis direction le parc national de SAI YOK pour découvrir cette région boisée avec ses grottes et ses cascades.

Jour 12 : Direction la plage pour terminer ce circuit et ce durant 3 jours seulement (nos congés ne sont pas sur rallonge et je préfère passer plus de temps à visiter et découvrir le pays que de faire la farniente à la plage!!!!).Pour éviter trop de déplacement supplémentaire (pour trois jours de plage seulement) nous opterons pour HuaHin (Dusit Resort et Polo club). Voilà... Ce circuit vous semble-t-il adapté ? correct ? intéressant ? ou trop chargé pour 12 jours de visite (hors séjour-plage) ? Rappel : Nos dates sont fixes, et nous ne pouvons rester que 15 jours sur place). Ce voyage, nous ne le ferons peut-être qu'une seule fois pour des raisons personelles. Concernant les hotels, c'est décidé ! Pas besoin de me proposer des guesthouse ou autre (attention, je n'attaque personne, c'est juste un choix que l'on prend et on s'en tient là). J'attends de nombreux messages de votre part pour m'aider et me conseiller une dernière fois.
Thaïlande / Cambodge 2003 English translation pending
by Sawaddeekha · 2005-02-11 · 30 replies
Mardi 12 / mercredi 13 août

Vol sans histoires jusqu’à Helsinki. Ensuite, vol de 9.40 pour BKK.

La fille assise à côté de nous, une scandinave, semble être en manque. Elle a des mouvements brusques, se gratte et n’arrête pas de bouger. Ma patience légendaire (ben quoi ?!) est mise à rude épreuve ... Finalement elle s’endort et nous fiche à peu près la paix.

Mercredi matin, nous atterrissons à BKK. J'ai envie d'embrasser le sol tellement je suis contente d'être de retour. Je n'en reviens pas .

La Baan Sabai GH est très chouette. Jolie terrasse, plein de plantes, de fontaines, de poissons à l’entrée. Seul point négatif : notre chambre se trouve au 4è étage … sans ascenseur. Spartiate mais propre.

Nous partons nous ballader un petit peu du côté du Grand Palais et du Lak Meuang, puis nous allons dîner à la Supatra River House : soft shell crab with green mango salad, crabe piquant (!!) en sauce, scampis au curry vert, langouste au jus de tamarin … et pour finir du riz collant et de la mangue.
Puissant séisme en Asie English translation pending
by TiJoe · 2004-12-26 · 223 replies
www.cyberpresse.ca/monde/article/article_complet.php?path=/monde/article/25/1, 151, 0, 122004, 875949.php

Quelqu'un de la région de Phuket pourrait confirmer les dires de cette nouvelle?

Merci!
Votre plus beau souvenir en Asie? English translation pending
by Freefall · 2004-09-01 · 15 replies
Je pars tout l’hiver - Asie sud-est - j’aimerais savoir quel à été votre plus beau souvenir de voyage ou le pire du Vietnam Thaïlande, Laos, Cambodge ect..

Qu’est-ce qui vous a marqué le plus??

J’attends avec impatience votre histoire!

J-P 😛
3 mois en Thaïlande? English translation pending
by Ycnan · 2004-08-09 · 7 replies
bonjour à tous! Je prévois un voyage avec une copine...on aimerait aller en Thaïlande de mai jusqu'à la fin juilelt...mais on ne connait rien de ce pays! Jai commencé à lire pas mal..mais souvent les info se contredisent....

jai quelques questions....

peut-on travailler là bas? ( et est-ce que ça vaut vriament la peine...ça doit pas payer bien bien cher...)

comment d'argent pensez-vous que ça prend pour vivre là-bas 3 mois?

on peut avoir un visa pour 3 mois?!

on peut faire du surf?!?! des cours?? ça coute cher? Louer un planche ^ca se fais tu?!

en tout cas...je me pose encore pleinnnnn de question...mais j'vais arrêter de faire ma tannante....de toute manière jen apprant de plus en plus dans les livres et en lisant les disscusions!

merci d'avance!!!

nancy
Thaïlande: intérêt de Chiang Mai? English translation pending
by Espritzen · 2004-05-04 · 6 replies
bonjour,

c est interessant d aller sur Chiang Mai ou pas ?

j envisage d aller en juin sur BKK, puis le cambodge et finit sur Samet ou Samui à la fin du periple.

mais je pourrais inserer qqes jours sur C.Mai..si ca en vaut vraiment la peine.

merci pour les suggestions.
Où se trouve la ville des singes en Thaïlande? English translation pending
by Biloute · 2004-04-03 · 5 replies
🙂 Bonjour, je repare pour la thailande dans quelques mois, et j'ai vu a la tv y a quelque temps un documentaire sur une ville de la thailande ou tout les singes sont en liberté et se promenent partout dans la ville, sur les fils electriques, sur les capots des voitures etc.., mais je ne me rappelle plus du nom de cette ville surnoméé la donkey-city de thailande.🤪

quelq'un pourais t'il me renseigné

un grand merci d'avance
Tarutao, Satun, Trang... (Thaïlande) English translation pending
by Kawine · 2004-01-15 · 6 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Je voudrais vos avis sur Tarutao, Satun, Trang, ou d'autres endrois aussi beaux dans le même coin. Je pars fin février en Thaïlande et je voulais savoir si ces endroits étaient facilement accessibles depuis Krabi ou Phuket, en combien de temps. Si vous avez des adresses, des conseils tout m'intéresse. Si vous avez des adresses également sur Krabi ça m'intéresse aussi, je recherche quelque chose de simple avec un minimum de confort jusqu'à 500 baths. Merci pour toutes vos réponses.
Hébergement à Bankok English translation pending
by Pierelene · 2004-01-05 · 7 replies
bonne année aux internautes de forum voyage !! partant bientôt pour la thailande, je ne sais pas dans quel quartier de bankok passer la première nuit, je souhaite éviter le quartier "chaud" qui est aussi bruyant la nuit, je préfère un endroit plus calme (bon je sais que c'est la capitale mais bon...) et pas trop loin ou du métro ou du chao praya. si quelqu'un a une bonne adresse d'hotel ou de guest house, ce serait bien !🙂
Où aller en Thaïlande pour éviter la mousson? (août/septembre) English translation pending
by Gui · 2003-07-18 · 15 replies
Salut à tous!

Je pars donc le 24 aout en thailande pendant 2 semaines, c'est d'ailleurs mon premier long courrier, je ne peux pas choisir une autre période car c'est un cadeau...Donc...

Ou-est-ce que je vais pouvoir passer de bonnes vacances sans sortir tous les 5 minutes mes bottes et mon Kway?

Petit précision, j'ai un penchant pour les îles du Sud qui ont l'air splendide, je voulais donc aller à Phuket mais j'ai entendu dire que Ko Samui était plus ou moins épargnée par la mousson, pour l'instant j'en suis la...

Si quelqu'un peut me confirmer ou m'infirmer cela, ce serait cool, ou bien peut etre d'autre propositions...

Merci à tous

Guillaume
Itinéraire en Thaïlande English translation pending
by Patriciaelfe · 2003-07-10 · 4 replies
Bonjour, Je pars avec mon ami du 1er au 25 Aout en Thailande. Nous avons établi notre itinéraire en bouquinant le lonely planet et le routard mais j'aurais voulu confronter l'itinéraire avec l'avis de quelqu'un qui connait déjà la Thailande. Si quelqu'un veut bien m'aider, répond et je t'envoie par mail mon itinéraire. Merci d'avance !
Thaïlande: Koh phan ngan, transports et prise électrique English translation pending
by Shiva · 2003-07-08 · 3 replies
🙂 Ciao!!!

je pars 16 jours en Thaillande(début aout) avec mon copain (18-19ans et pas un rond...)

on pense rester à Bkk 2-3jours et ensuite partir vers le sud.

😛 ce qu'on cherche c'est un endroit cool avec +tot des jeunes mais pas trop de touristes quand meme (allergie aux familles entassées ds hotels en béton)

c'et pk on a pensé à phan ngan (full moon, bungalows pas chers...)

c est une bonne idée???si vous avez mieux à conseiller...

et pour y aller depuis bkk? on nous a conseillé le train...

on peut reserver depuis ou? c'est combien environ? bcp de départs ou pas? et combien de temps?

😛 Ultime question:

j ai recu un superbe appareil photos numérique dernier modèle, parfait pour rendre tout le monde jaloux de nos vacances en septembre...

le problème c' est pour le recharger...

je viens de suisse, et je pense pas que les prises d'éléctricitée thai et celle de suisse sont compatible... est-ce qu'on peut acheter des addaptateur? Ou? et combien environ?

et puisque on va loue un bungalows sans comfort(budjet limite) il y aurait moyen de trouver un prise quand meme?

merci à tous et bonne vacances!!!!!😎😎😎
Which island to choose in Thailand for a few days with my sister?
by Bonjourciao · 2026-07-19 · 6 replies
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.

I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.

My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.

I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...

The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.

For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!

Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.

Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):

· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
1 month in northern Laos (Oct 23 to Nov 24, 2025)
by Aleph240758 · 2026-02-14 · 86 replies
Northern Laos, Nov 25

Thursday, Oct 23. Left home at 8:25 AM, took the bus from St Cyp to Perpignan, then a BlaBlaBus to Barcelona airport. Last night, a huge storm crossed France, and the bus was an hour late. We finally left at 11 AM. At the Spanish border, we were checked—several Africans were traveling on the bus, and their document verification took quite a while. In the end, everything was in order, and we set off again a good half-hour later. We finally arrived at Barcelona airport after 2 PM, but no stress since my flight was scheduled for 4:30 PM with Saudia. At check-in, the hostess told me there’d be a 1-hour delay due to bad weather in France and Belgium. In the end, the flight didn’t just have a 1-hour delay but a 5-hour one because of a technical issue. The next flight wouldn’t wait for us. When we arrived in Jeddah, they gave us another ticket for the following day—the flight to Bangkok was scheduled for 11:55 AM. The airline assigned us a room, which was good news since I was exhausted. Friday morning, the flight was still scheduled for 11:55 AM, but the gate wasn’t displayed. It was announced with a 1-hour delay, but that stretched to 4 hours. They handed out drinks and a snack—again, the delay was due to technical problems. In Bangkok, I had a connecting flight to Chiang Rai, where I’d also booked a room—I lost everything. We finally arrived in Bangkok on Saturday at 4 AM. I had to buy another ticket for a 7 AM flight. The formalities were quick, and my flight went smoothly. A taxi took me to Bus Terminal 1, where I caught a bus leaving at 10 AM, and we arrived at the Thailand-Laos border. I shared a taxi with other travelers, which took us to Houay Xai. The guesthouse I’d booked was right across from the stop—that was great. I exchanged some money and bought a SIM card at the guesthouse. Despite the fatigue, I needed to stretch my legs, so I walked down the street to the temple.









and continued to Fort Carnot, built by the French.



The views of the Mekong are beautiful for a first glimpse of the country.





yum-yum, bon appétit!

At 6:30 PM, I went to dinner at a restaurant across from the guesthouse—a chicken curry with vegetables.



I didn’t linger and went back to bed. I slept well, even if I woke up often.
Trip to Thailand and Laos
by Kate · 2026-02-05 · 355 replies
Hello! 🙂

January 2026 Here we go again for new adventures and the pleasure of sharing them with you here! First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who helped me with the preparations, even with some last-minute improvisations just days before departure. Thanks to Montagnard74, Jojoone1, Songsam, Attila, Dennis2, NadegerFERM, and the authors whose travel journals about Laos inspired me (Montagnard74, Muriel18, Mavietongs...).

In this story, written by Richard and illustrated by me, we’ll tell you about the journey of four friends: Catherine, Richard, Nathalie, and Bruno. A reinvented but overall successful trip, filled with discoveries and surprises, the scents of spices and frangipani flowers, (too) spicy food, sunsets, and... one big mess.
Feedback on a 2-week Thailand itinerary with kids
by Bourguibasco · 2026-01-03 · 27 replies
Hello!

After a long travel hiatus, we’re (finally) back on the road for some getaways! Now with two kids in tow, we’re heading to Thailand for two weeks next February (a destination that’s stood us up twice before but seems perfect for our first big family trip).

We’d have loved to stay longer, but two weeks is already a great start and will be plenty enjoyable.

Key points: - Experience Thailand, not just live our usual routine in Thailand - Avoid crowds as much as possible, even though February will be busy - Not big city fans, so Bangkok (BKK) will be kept to a minimum - Focus on nature, the sea, forests, waterfalls, hiking, kayaking...

At this stage, here’s the rough itinerary I’m considering: - Arrival at 7 AM + a day in BKK

- DEPART for SURAT THANI (BUS) - Transfer + Khao Sok (overnight on the lake / in the trees)

- RETURN to Ko Samui - Transfer to Koh Pha Ngan or Koh Tao (snorkeling)

- RETURN to Khao Lak. While there: * Visit Ao Phang Nga Park by kayak * Excursion to caves / Ko Khao Phing Kan (the "007 beach" lol) * ALTERNATIVE = SIMILAN ISLANDS

- RETURN to KRABI or Koh Phi Phi * Visit Koh Hong or Koh Yao Yai

* Flight from SURAT THANI to BKK - If time left in BKK: - Explore BKK: Wat Pho / floating market / Maeklong Railway Market / Chinatown... - Or a day trip to Ayutthaya - Or a day at Erawan Waterfall (Haew Suwat) - Day +1 = Return to France

Questions I’m pondering: - Is this too ambitious? I think it might be... but since we’d rather see as much as possible than just lounge on a beach... - How to get around on this route? Bus or rental vehicle (which I’d prefer to avoid) - Are there any inconsistencies in the plan I’ve outlined? - Should I adjust any connections or prioritize differently? - Krabi vs. Koh Phi Phi? - Koh Hong vs. Koh Yao Yai?

We’ve booked the first night (using some leftover backpacking perks), but nothing else—so open to all ideas!

If you know a local agency that can offer advice (for a fee), that could work too, since the options feel endless...

Thanks so much for reading this far, and even more if you’ve got tips or suggestions to share!! Best wishes ;)
Which neighborhood to choose for staying in Bangkok?
by Falsealarm · 2025-12-10 · 48 replies
Hi, I’m heading to Thailand for the first time in early 2026 and I’m really struggling to pick a neighborhood to stay in Bangkok. Apart from being close to public transport (metro, skytrain, BRT), I’m torn between several areas. I don’t mind using public transport or walking long distances, but if every trip takes 45 minutes or an hour, it’ll quickly become a hassle given our relatively short time there.

We’ll be in Bangkok twice during our trip: first for a “short” 2-night stopover (arriving from France in the mid-afternoon, then leaving the day after next for southern Thailand by plane), and then again for 3 nights before flying back to France (arriving at the airport in the late afternoon, 3 nights there, then departing for France in the late morning).

I’ve seen so many different recommendations that I’m having a hard time deciding. I’ve read that staying near the river is great for sightseeing, and that taking the boat to get around is really pleasant. But I’m worried about being a bit isolated for evening outings (eating at a cheap little restaurant, having a drink—nothing too wild!).

Chinatown is tempting for the food—it looks amazing—and it doesn’t seem too far from the main sights with public transport. But I’ve read that it’s very noisy because it’s super touristy and there’s constant truck traffic. My friend isn’t thrilled about it, especially since another neighborhood interests her because she has a great discount at a hotel near Victory Monument/Phaya Thai (the Pullman hotel). Even though it’s close to public transport, I’ve seen that it’s mostly a shopping district? And even with transport, isn’t it a long trip to visit places like the Grand Palace?

We also had a plan to stay at an ibis near BTS Nana station in the Sukhumvit area, but again, I get the feeling it’s mostly a shopping district?

Anyway, I’d love to hear your thoughts because I’m really torn!

It’s also true that I haven’t really planned our Bangkok stays yet. I’d like to do the “classic” tourist sights like the Grand Palace and eat really well! Someone told me that the big shopping malls also have amazing food 🙂

Thanks for your input!
What to see and do on a trip through the Northeast and Sukhothai?
by DrSnuggle · 2025-12-02 · 13 replies
Hello,

After a successful first trip in 2025, with the help of forum members, we’d love to return to this amazing cultural melting pot in 2026 for three weeks (2 adults, 2 kids aged 13 and 16).

We’d like to explore new places in the Northeast: fly into Khon Kaen and explore the region—Loei, Nong Khai, perhaps? A detour to the center to visit Sukhothai would be a great addition.

I’ll admit, planning this itinerary is a bit trickier for me since I’m less familiar with these areas and what they have to offer. The distances also seem longer than our previous transfers (BKK-Kanchanaburi-Kaeng Krachan-Sam Roi Yot...).

Do you have any suggestions or hidden gems to explore in the Northeast and Central regions that keep travel time between stops reasonable (3-4 hours)?

Thanks for your input!
Old Burmese Adventures (oh, so many!)
by Songsam · 2025-11-24 · 57 replies
Hey everyone,

Yesterday, I checked the Thailand forum to see if there were any questions to answer, but not much was happening—it was pretty quiet. Then I scrolled through the Southeast Asia section and realized that, even though Burma (Myanmar) was included, there weren’t many posts about it... I’ve only been there once, back in 1987, so it’s hard to create a photo thread about multiple trips like I sometimes do for Thailand. Still, that one trip was packed with unusual adventures, so I thought I’d share a few stories from it.

Since I didn’t take any notes at the time, this is all from memory—it’s not an exhaustive travel journal and isn’t meant to help plan a future trip to Myanmar.

Don’t expect photos; there won’t be any. I have some, but they’re slides that would need scanning and editing one by one to fix the wear and tear of time—way too much work.

The Context.

Back then (reminder: 1987), I was volunteering in Paris at the counter of a travel agency on Rue des Écoles. The agency was part of a well-known organization based in Mulhouse that mostly offered scheduled flights to Asia, charter flights to the Mediterranean, and flights to Mali with their own plane. They also had a few rare "roots"-style trips to certain destinations—trips where you didn’t bring your tennis racket but were ready to soak in everything, even if it meant tough conditions.

I’d already been to Thailand, Indonesia, and the Philippines in Asia. The director knew this, so he asked me to accompany a group to Burma. At the time, tours to Burma were already being sold by competitors, but they all had to go through the state-run agency, Touristburma (buses and hotels for tourists, and they only showed you what they wanted you to see—kind of like traveling in North Korea today). The service was only payable in dollars at the official exchange rate (which was six times worse than the black market rate, mind you...), and since it went through the state agency, all the money ended up with the junta.

My job was to do everything *without* going through Touristburma, which was completely illegal there. Nothing would be booked in advance. Back then, the Burmese visa was only valid for 8 days/7 nights, and since clients were paying for the experience, the itinerary was planned ahead. I’d have to find transport and a guide on the black market as soon as I arrived.

The clients weren’t misled—they knew from the start that the trip would be off the books, that officially we’d be a small group of friends (not an agency), unlike the truth (Touristburma wasn’t mandatory for individual travelers), and that it would be challenging. They also knew their trip would cost 3-4 times less while giving them a much better experience of Burma. As for pretending to be a group of friends, there were only six of us, so it worked out.

To cover all expenses (accommodation, transport, excursions), the agency gave me a sufficient budget. They also gave me the *same* budget a second time, which was strictly for bribing officials who might cause trouble, for backshish (tips), and, if needed, to "help" me get out of prison.

Before I left, I was thoroughly briefed by another guy who’d led the previous trip (he’d dealt with all the initial challenges). He explained everything I needed to know, what to watch out for, and advised me on what to bring as "gifts" (samples of well-known perfumes, specific cigarette and whisky brands, etc.). For the perfume samples, I rallied my family, friends, and even stores. For the rest, I’d pick things up at the duty-free shops in Don Muang (Bangkok’s only airport at the time)—I had the budget for it.

I couldn’t wait to leave...
What to choose for a first summer trip to Asia: Indonesia or Thailand?
by DomBegga · 2025-08-04 · 90 replies
Hi there,

I’m planning my first trip to Asia next summer with my partner and our daughter, who’ll be 3 and a half at the time, for 4 weeks (maybe 5).

I’ve heard that the timing is better for visiting Indonesia, but I’m hesitant because Thailand seems more accessible, and I’m worried that traveling to Indonesia during high season might be less enjoyable and a lot more expensive due to the number of tourists. We love cultural sites as much as natural ones, and we’re big foodies. We’re not necessarily looking for luxury and tend to take our time, travel by public transport, and look for accommodations with a good value for money—though we do occasionally splurge on a high-end restaurant.

I’m also wondering when and where to buy flight tickets and how comfortable the journey will be (especially for our daughter) if we fly with Thai Airways or Garuda.

Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and tips!

Damien
From Bangkok to Krabi, Thailand by Car!
by Attila · 2025-04-15 · 317 replies
This first trip of 2025 will have the taste of Asia.

More precisely, Thailand!

It’s not my first time—I’ve often traveled across Southeast Asia between 2000 and 2015. (This travel journal, for example...)

But it’ll be my partner’s first steps in this part of the world.

The itinerary we’ve chosen will alternate between familiar sights for me and new discoveries for both of us.

I’ll get to see how the country has changed in 20 years—and what’s stayed the same!

We were torn between the north and the south of the kingdom. Fears of smoke from slash-and-burn farming and a desire to relax on the sand tipped the scales toward the south...

What if we rented a car?

I think driving in sprawling Bangkok would be a bit ambitious, so we’ll only book our vehicle from Hua Hin to return it in Surat Thani.

Other transportation will range from tuk-tuks to overnight trains and ride-hailing services.

And of course, the plane!

I’d love to travel from Auvergne to Bangkok by road, but 15 days wouldn’t be enough...

Plus, the current geopolitical situation isn’t exactly favorable...

So, once again, we’ll be stuck for hours in the less-than-comfortable economy class of Qatar Airways.

The arrival time was on schedule, entry formalities were quick, and all our luggage made it.

We left Lyon in wind and cold—now we’re breathing in the warm, humid air of กรุงเทพมหานคร.

To reach our hotel, we first took the metro, which dropped us off in the city center in about 30 minutes for the incredible price of 1.18 €.

A few taps on the GRAB app, and we booked a ride-hailing service for the last few kilometers.

We waited a while for our driver due to insane traffic in the area, but once in the 4x4, we were at our lodging in no time.

We chose this small hotel for its riverside location, tranquility, and price.

It’ll do the job perfectly—the only downside is the weak breakfast.

The room is inviting, and we collapse onto the bed for a well-deserved short nap.

Wake-up call in an hour for our first visits!

See you soon...

Skyscrapers, Markets, Ice Cubes, Tourism, and Waterfalls... Thailand's Excesses
by Marien33 · 2025-03-20 · 249 replies


A somewhat lengthy title... I could have simply written: from Bangkok to Chiang Rai, via Chiang Mai, since that was my route. But when poets embellish our travel journals with their verbal flourishes, you’ve got to try not to be too ordinary.

Skyscrapers of excess? You’ll have gathered that from the photo illustrating this journal—though it might change as the trip goes on.

The excess of markets—not so much in their size, though... Chatuchak... But in their sheer number. Day markets, night markets, floating markets, fresh produce markets, fish markets, meat markets, spice markets, fabric markets... and even... amulet markets... For luck, good fortune, protection. Not to mention, sadly, the market for girls—and boys, incidentally. I’ve even heard they’re displayed in windows. I’ve heard about that one, like you have, but I didn’t set foot in it, so I can’t say anything about it. Some even claim there’s a black-market trade in children. Disgusting! It reminded me of the book *The Parcel* by Anosh Irani, which I recommended in another journal. The story is set in India, but I’ve been told it exists in Thailand too. So, the "famous Thai markets" we’re bombarded with in paper and online guides—sure, they amazed me in the first few days, and I don’t regret visiting them. But no matter how big they were, I quickly got my fill since you saw the same things at every stall...

I had a market overdose.

Excess of tourism? I should say *tourists*, since I saw them literally swarming in the streets and those famous markets. I’d forgotten about them. I’d lost the habit, living in an Indian city for so long...

Waterfalls are a bit like markets. At this time of year, they’re not particularly spectacular, but they’re everywhere. There are the ones everyone goes to see. For example, Erawan, which I decided to skip even though it was in my original itinerary—I guessed it’d be a nightmare with the selfie circus. On the other hand, you come across them all over the place, hidden in the mountains and forests, not listed in any guide. Not to mention the ones you can find in temples or even private homes... Yes, really! Thais love waterfalls, so they install them in their gardens—and I even saw one in the middle of the city, right on the street! Sometimes they’re tiny, but very photogenic.

But what do ice cubes have to do with this? Why the excess of ice cubes? Not only are they everywhere by the ton, but they put them in *everything* you drink. You’d think they’d even put them in soup! And it’s not just one or two ice cubes—no! They fill the container to the brim, whatever it is, then pour the liquid on top to fill the gaps. They’ll make you an excellent coffee right in front of you, piping hot, then—bam! An avalanche of ice cubes in the glass. Okay, I’m exaggerating a little. They *do* sometimes ask if you prefer your coffee—or tea—hot. Everything edible, and especially everything drinkable, is refrigerated: vegetables, fruit, hot drinks (I mean, drinks that are *usually* hot), but meat and fish are left out in the open. They just wave a little whisk to shoo away the flies when they get too eager. Mind you, I never put fruit, cheese, eggs, or water in the fridge in France, but I do in India. And I refrigerate meat and fish too... Though sometimes one of those little flies sneaks into the fridge...

You won’t find practical or technical details in this journal, like addresses or prices. Others do that better than me. You also won’t find the names of obscure or unknown places I discovered, or directions to get there.

I don’t really feel like recounting what I saw day by day, following my schedule and route. There might be flashbacks, projections into the future. It’ll depend on my memories, what I felt, what I hated, what comes back to me—and maybe your questions and our exchanges. And for those who’ve never read me before, you’ll have to get used to my parentheses and digressions, maybe on a completely different subject, as my thoughts wander. Stories within stories. There’ll also be long, endless sentences—but still punctuated, so you can follow along. Though I used to curse Proust and his sentences that started on one page and ended on the next, sometimes even further. I’d have to reread them twenty times to follow and understand what he was saying. I hated Proust. But hey, I was 20. Maybe I’d like him now?

See? The digressions are starting already. Forgive me.

You’ll find few photos here. First, the number is limited, and second, photos aren’t the main purpose of either VF or a travel journal. They’re too often used to mask the poverty of the text. And, sorry to say it, but so many of them are just plain ugly! If you really want to see photos, I’ll share some links where you can browse them at your leisure
Cities to see in the Isan region (Thailand)
by Momo2 · 2024-12-27 · 23 replies
Hi there,

I’m about to take a trip around the region in March. According to the "experts," which cities are really worth the detour? My key criteria: a slightly lively downtown + walkable. I’ve already been to the region a few years ago, but my memories are pretty mixed (Ubon Ratchathani, Udon Thani, Khon Kaen).

Thanks😎
Bangkok - Chiang Mai - Koh Samui in summer
by Waterlily78 · 2024-12-08 · 66 replies
Hi everyone, I’ve spent two solid months reading the Lonely Planet and pretty much every post about Thailand here, plus French and English blogs. Now I’d love to get your expert opinions on our itinerary. We’re heading off in August 2025 with our 7-year-old daughter. We only have a maximum of three weeks off, and I’m keeping an eye on flight prices before booking (1400 € per person really stings 😕). So here’s what I’ve planned—let me know if you spot any major issues or if I’ve been way too "optimistic."

D1 - Arrival in Bangkok / rest, quick visit, overnight stay D2 - More temple visits, etc. D3 - Morning flight to Chiang Mai D4 - More Chiang Mai sightseeing D5 - Day trip to Chiang Rai (guided tour to book: blue and white temple), return to Chiang Mai late in the evening D6 - More Chiang Mai visits / Elephant Nature Park in the afternoon D7 - Morning flight to Koh Samui, sightseeing D8 to D10 - More Koh Samui visits D11 to D13 - Ferry to Koh Phangan D14 to D15 - Ferry to Koh Tao D16 - Return to Koh Samui, then flight to Bangkok D17 - Day trip to Ayutthaya, return to Bangkok in the evening D18 - Flight back to France :(

I know a lot of you recommend heading straight to Chiang Mai to recover from the international flight, but my partner and I NEVER sleep on planes (personally, I’ve been flying to Taiwan since I was little and have never slept more than an hour on a 14-hour flight...), so it’s essential for us to rest upon arrival . That’s also why I opted for domestic flights instead of the sleeper train—I know we’d lose over 10 hours and wouldn’t be able to rest properly in those conditions. And I’m sure you’ll also say BKK > North > South is too much for three weeks, but I really want to see as much as possible. Given how much the flights will cost, I’m not sure when we’ll be able to come back 🏴‍☠️.

So, questions: 1. Since we’ll only be in Bangkok for a maximum of two nights and need to easily reach the airport with luggage (and a child), which neighborhood should we prioritize? We’d love to experience the evening vibe of Asian night markets, ideally within walking distance of the hotel or just a few metro stops away. I’ve looked at Chinatown, but the BTS seems far... Should we go for somewhere near BTS Saphan Taksin or BTS Krungthonburi? But is the area lively in the evening with food courts, etc.? We’d also like to treat ourselves to a hotel with a pool.

2. Have we planned too many days in the south? Should I skip Koh Tao and just do Koh Samui + Koh Phangan? My partner and daughter aren’t strong swimmers, so we’re looking for beautiful beaches without too much current. Crowded beaches don’t bother us—we just want stunning turquoise waters without killer waves . Going all the way to Koh Tao and then back to Koh Samui to catch the flight to Bangkok seems too stressful. Is it still possible these days (I haven’t seen any recent posts on this) to head to Koh Samui in August and decide on the spot how many nights to spend in Koh Phangan or Koh Tao based on how we feel, booking hotels as we go? Or is that too risky?

If you have any better suggestions for fitting all this in while reducing internal flights, I’m all ears for your great tips
Sandflies in Southern Thailand
by Attila · 2024-11-25 · 32 replies
Hi there,

I’m heading back to Thailand soon, and from what I’ve been reading, it seems some beaches/islands are infested with these dreaded sandflies!

I’ve noted the remedy: rub the bitten area with 90% alcohol, then apply soothing cream.

But prevention is better than cure!

Which areas should I avoid right now?

Are there seasons that are more prone to these itchy invasions than others?

I’ve already stayed in Hua Hin, Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, Koh Tao, Krabi, and Phuket without any issues like this.

I’d love to keep it that way...

Thanks
15-day itinerary from Bangkok to the southern classics
by Attila · 2024-11-08 · 90 replies
Hi there,

The round trip to Bangkok is almost booked.

Here’s the itinerary I’ve planned for this new trip to Thailand:

Arrival – 2 nights in Bangkok (any hotel recommendations? Very quiet, near Chinatown or by the river)

Train or taxi (which app should I use for Thailand?) to Phetchaburi – 2 nights (any hotel recommendations?)

Daytime train to Surat Thani – 1 night there (any hotel recommendations?)

Pick up the rental car and head to Khao Sok – 1 night there (any hotel recommendations?)

Drive to Ko Kho Khao – 3 nights – relaxation (any hotel recommendations?)

Drive to Phang Nga Bay – 1 night (any base recommendations?)

Excursion in the bay, then drive to Krabi – 2 nights (any hotel recommendations) or any other spot with beautiful, quiet beaches that you might know?

Return to Surat Thani – overnight train to Bangkok, then Ayutthaya (any hotel recommendations?)

Visit the site and transfer to the airport – sniff, time to head back!

If you have other suggestions, keeping in mind the trip’s vibe: beach time without crowds or entertainment, a bit of nature, a bit of culture, no stress... No domestic flights and charming accommodations (not at 150 € per night, even though the budget is reasonable!)

Not sure I’ll follow them all, but all your ideas are welcome! 😉

Thanks. 🙂

Évasion en Thaïlande English translation pending
by Jlcro · 2020-08-17 · 59 replies
J'ai déjà expliqué ici le contexte de mes publications et pourquoi je remonte à ce point dans le temps. Cette fois-ci, on est en 2014. Je pars du présupposé que les choses n'ont pas considérablement changées et que ces voyages peuvent encore, malgré le temps passsé, en inspirer d'autres...

dimanche 30 novembre 2014 Mulhouse - Amsterdam

Bien sûr, tu le sais, ça fait des mois que j’en parle, ce matin on part vers Bangkok, Thaïlande. Pour Dom et moi, la voyago-thérapie : le must pour réduire à rien les agressions du moment, essentiellement liées à des histoires de boulot; mais je vais pas m'égarer là-dedans, ce n'est pas l'endroit!

Escale à Amsterdam...



Lundi 1 décembre 2014 Bangkok

Même si c’est hautement probablement faux, on arrive à Bangkok alors qu’il m’a semblé n’avoir, à aucun moment, fermé l’œil. Les habituelles files d’attente à la douane présentent, il faut le souligner, des visages aimables… les bagages...Le taxi (rigolard comme ce n’est plus permis en occident :), l’hôtel...Nickel avec une magnifique terrasse au bord de la Navalaï River...Tous les flags sont au vert ! Tu nous connais, on traîne pas trop avant d’aller découvrir la ville ! On demande notre chemin à un type super accueillant qui hèle aussitôt un môme avec un « tuk tuk », une sorte de mobylette encarénée très appréciée des touristes because costless en diable ! Notre mentor négocie pour 40 baths (1 euro !), un tour des temples du nord. On se laisse driver sans discuter...

Après le troisième temple, le môme tourne bizarre. Il a arrêté d’être juste aimable. Nous presse. Puis, au milieu d’une visite, nous enjoint de le suivre, il veut nous montrer, dans une certaine urgence, quelque chose. Il nous emmène vers un homme d’âge respectable, une sorte de bonze aimable, affable, qui nous raconte, dans un français correct, sa jeunesse à Bordeaux, puis glisse insensiblement sur la théorie économique et ses inconstances, de la difficulté induite à placer le fruit de notre dur labeur dans quelque chose de pérenne. On le sentait venir. Devine où il est le plus sûr de placer son argent ? Dans la pierre précieuse, naturellement ! Et là, le monde est quand même bien fichu, figure toi que notre interlocuteur connait justement quelques joailliers d’art qui accepteraient de nous vendre à prix coûtant des saphirs de la région, et sans taxes encore! Bon. Le môme nous a embarqués dans un traquenard. On réussit cependant sans trop de difficulté à se débarrasser du fâcheux et reprenons l’expédition où nous l’avions laissée. Quand je demande au môme où se trouve la prochaine destination, je l’oblige à répéter plusieurs fois tant la chose me semble incongrue, mais c’est bien ça, sa réponse s’entend : « Thaï export !». On décide aussitôt d’abandonner la virée. On lâche 40 baths au gamin et sautons de sa mobylette au premier feu rouge. Ensuite, on a agité nos petites mains pour tenter d’attirer un taxi sous le cagnard, un Thaï d’un âge plus que respectable, nous a embarqué dans un véhicule qu’il a eu toute les peines du monde à maintenir sur la route, propulsés dans une sorte de jeu vidéo mortel, un grand thief auto à travers une circulation en délire… Mais ça va. Pour une poignée d’euros il nous a ramené à notre hôtel, sains et saufs ! Là, faut se remettre, pot au bord de la rivière... « Ça doit être possible de faire une ballade sur le fleuve, tu crois pas? » J’en parle à notre hôte à l’accueil, le truc est organisé dans la foulée ! Une efficacité qui laisse ébahi ! On a un bateau pour une virée d’une heure à travers la ville.



En traversant un petit village sur pilotis, je vois nager un drôle de truc, comme un chien. A force d’écarquiller les yeux, on distingue tout un groupe de Varans!

Northern Thailand with a baby
by LBfamily · 2020-05-11 · 14 replies


Hi everyone,

In these dark times, and after two months of lockdown, I thought now would be a good moment to write up the travel journal of our last trip to Thailand, to (maybe) help some of you escape a little. The idea is also, and above all, to give back to this forum, and I hope my tips or ideas will help future travelers. Don’t hesitate to contact me via private message or in the comments if you have any questions.

Before I start this story, I must warmly thank the people who patiently informed, advised, and guided us. Jojoone, Jodelavega, Jungletrool, DearPatsy, Tarajellow, and the others—thank you so much. This trip wouldn’t have been as wonderful without your help.

We’re a couple in our thirties who love traveling (we did a round-the-world trip several years ago now), and we’re big fans of Thailand, where we’ve been multiple times. We’re used to backpacking and even have a bit of wanderlust! But this year, everything was different since we were traveling for the first time with our baby, who was just under 2 years old (22 months). This raised HUGE questions for us, as we usually travel pretty casually and intuitively. While I found some answers on this forum, there was still a lot of information I couldn’t find, so I apologize in advance to those who travel without young kids—I plan to address that with a dedicated section. Generally, I think preparation is the key to a successful trip with a little one. For us, lots of questions beforehand meant no stress during the trip—everything was simple, and there were no bad surprises.

For those in a hurry, here’s a summary: 3-week stay (09/30/19 to 10/18/2019) Flight tickets (2 adults, 1 baby without a seat): 1052 € Itinerary: Bangkok 5 days, Chiang Mai 5 days, Lampang 3 days, Kanchanaburi 3 days, Bangkok 2 days.

General info about traveling with babies:

Here are the topics that caused us the most concern, our choices, and our observations after the trip.

1- Choosing the itinerary / road safety

This was THE biggest concern for us. Living in France with a top-rated rear-facing car seat, we were terrified at the idea of putting our baby in a car, bus, or any vehicle without protection (not to mention Thailand’s terrible reputation for road safety). We ended up making a radical decision that removed all our stress and let us enjoy a fantastic trip: no road travel (though you’ll see later that we had to bend this rule once, and everything went fine). We decided to follow the railway route heading north (for safety reasons, we didn’t consider the south and its islands with a baby) and chose our stops based on that. The train is a super comfortable way to travel with a young child. Sure, it’s slow—we were warned—but the best advice I can give is to take your time with a little one. Thailand is hot, noisy, and crowded—everything is tiring. Taking it slow is the best way to enjoy your trip. And I think (this is just my opinion) trying to keep an adult’s pace would only lead to frustration and exhaustion for everyone. The only car trips we took were short transfers in the city, and for those, we brought a sling (like a pre-tied baby carrier) so the baby was strapped to one of us, and we were both buckled up with the seatbelt passing between the baby and the parent carrying them. In case of a crash, there was no risk of crushing the baby (though obviously, it wasn’t completely safe, but we figured at city speeds, it was manageable).

2- Gear / what to pack?

In everyday life, we already keep things simple, so for travel, it was obvious we wouldn’t overpack. Crib, stroller, car seat, etc.—we decided to bring almost nothing and didn’t regret it. In my opinion, a stroller isn’t useful in Thailand. The sidewalks are unusable, packed with people and stalls. In busy places like night markets, you’ll prefer having your child close to you, at adult height, rather than in the crowd. Of course, it depends on where you go, but generally, a stroller will be more of a hassle than a help. We opted for a small, non-bulky hiking backpack and a sling (which fit in the backpack’s pocket) made of thin fabric for car trips. In hindsight, I think this was the perfect choice.

For cribs, high chairs, etc., there’s no need to bring your own—every place finds solutions for babies, and you can even contact them beforehand to put your mind at ease. During our stay, we were offered a baby crib, a futon on the floor, a single bed (not suitable for a baby, though), and always a solution for seating at meals. Only one hotel in Chiang Mai refused to help and asked for an outrageous extra fee, but I think that’s unusual, and we generally have mixed memories of that place. We brought a small fabric seat that attaches to any chair—it takes up the space of a folded raincoat and was very useful (though you can manage just fine by having the baby eat on your lap).

For baby food, diapers, etc., we didn’t bring anything. Just enough to last two days while we got settled, and that was plenty—no need to overpack. You can easily find diapers at Tesco, Lotus, or even 7/11. For food, we’d gotten our daughter used to eating pieces a few months before the trip, and we ordered broths to “dilute” the dishes. She loved it, tried everything with pleasure, and never had any issues. That said, I don’t know about milk—my daughter doesn’t drink it.

Here’s our “packing list” for 3 weeks with a 22-month-old:



My partner: 1 travel backpack and a small empty (cabin-sized) rolling suitcase for shopping on the way back. For me: baby in a hiking backpack (with a sling and the small folded seat in the backpack’s pocket). It was simple for getting around, and I think if we’d packed more, we would’ve struggled without gaining any extra comfort.

3- Mosquitoes / Malaria / Dengue / Vaccines

As if on purpose, just months before our trip, a flood of articles on the forum and online warned us that Thailand was in the middle of a dengue epidemic, and locals advised us to be careful. Not exactly reassuring when traveling with a baby…🤪 After much hesitation, we decided to bring a small mosquito net (recommended by a mom on the forum—shoutout to Popinette) that opens like a pop-up tent (and folds just as easily). For how little space it took up, we didn’t regret it. It was attached to the back of the travel backpack and let us sleep soundly :p If it helps anyone, here’s the one we had: Deryan Peuter model.



We also brought a mosquito net for ourselves but didn’t end up using it—with precautions, we didn’t have any mosquitoes at night.

For protection, we chose Insect Ecran (tropical version, the red one) because it doesn’t contain DEET but uses Icaridin, which is less toxic for little ones. We also pre-treated our clothes with Insect Ecran textile spray. We also decided to dress our daughter in light, long-sleeved outfits (covering arms and legs), and she wasn’t any hotter but was protected. It was a great choice, and we ended up dressing like her. Contrary to what I’d read, I didn’t find the smell strong—I actually thought it was quite discreet. My daughter and my partner didn’t get a single bite. As for me, I still got bites on exposed areas (I’m *very* prone to mosquito bites), so I switched to a local product—less well-formulated but apparently more effective for me.

We had our daughter vaccinated against Hepatitis A. We got conflicting advice on this: the pediatrician said it was unnecessary if she didn’t eat from street stalls (where dishes are washed in questionable water), but my GP said the opposite. We decided to book an appointment at a travel vaccination center, and the doctor was clear—she needed the vaccine.

4- Book in advance?

Finally, a question that had never crossed our minds before: should we book in advance? Again, this is just my opinion, but I think yes. It makes things much easier. Since we wanted to minimize road travel, it was much simpler to find well-located accommodations that let us do everything on foot (and with a baby, reducing travel and lightening the schedule is really helpful). Booking ahead meant no bad surprises, no fully booked places, and no hassle walking around with luggage and a baby. We booked everything in advance via Booking and Agoda, and by comparing with on-site prices, we didn’t pay more (we were traveling in the low season).

Here’s our feedback and observations. If they can help other parents prepare for their trip, I’d be thrilled.

With all that said, time for vacation!

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