1 seul bagage avec 4 sacoches et un sac
by Zwoofffx
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
J'ai déjà pris l'avion mais jamais avec un vélo.
La question que je me pose c'est :
comment fait on lorsque les compagnies aériennes parlent d'1 bagages en soute de 20/23kg (ou plus en fonction des vols) pour passer les 4 sacoches et le sac du porte bagages (ou la tente)?
Hello,
Je pense que la plupart des compagnies acceptent au moins deux bagages par personne en soute, en tous cas, c'est le cas dans pas mal d'apres mes recherches
pour le volume, un grand sac de marché ou equivalent (sinon réunir et entourer les sacoches de plastic genre cellophane costaud + adhesif) pour réunir les sacoches, parait une des solutions les mieux, Comme les sacs grand volume genre "tati" (surtout si tu vas chez l'oncle sam ;)); J'en ai trouvé un dans un magasin genre "fourre tout bricolage", pour 2,50 euros, en prevision de la meme chose que toi, du coup j'en ai pris deux; Et pour le poids, repartir le poids entre le "bagage-vélo" et le bagage sacoches, par exemple en fixant certains matériels à l'interieur du cadre vélo, comme la pompe, bidon, voire une des sacoches, ce qui allegera l'autre bagage et pour rester en dessous du poids maxi
pour le volume, un grand sac de marché ou equivalent (sinon réunir et entourer les sacoches de plastic genre cellophane costaud + adhesif) pour réunir les sacoches, parait une des solutions les mieux, Comme les sacs grand volume genre "tati" (surtout si tu vas chez l'oncle sam ;)); J'en ai trouvé un dans un magasin genre "fourre tout bricolage", pour 2,50 euros, en prevision de la meme chose que toi, du coup j'en ai pris deux; Et pour le poids, repartir le poids entre le "bagage-vélo" et le bagage sacoches, par exemple en fixant certains matériels à l'interieur du cadre vélo, comme la pompe, bidon, voire une des sacoches, ce qui allegera l'autre bagage et pour rester en dessous du poids maxi
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effectivement scotcher les sacoches, c'etait une idée que j'avais et que vient aussi de me confirmer un Tour du mondiste que je connais. Mais peut être y a t'il d'autre solution.
Le sac type toile tressée comme tu me proposes, je vais aller voir ce qui existe en taille. J'en ai un mais il est trop petit...
2 bagages par voyageurs... un pour le sac (sacoches) et un pour le vélo... ça fait bien 2.
pour ce qui ne passe pas en bagage à main (attention au contenu et à la dimension) ... j'opte pour le grand sac poubelle (120 l - le plus costaud ...) dans lequel je place les sacoches "solidarisées" avec du scotch type emballage ... sac fermé + scotché + étiqueté ou marqué ... après il y a seulement le problème de poids !!!
en plus, le sac poubelle en question est d'un poids et d'un prix négligeable, et il peut aussi être très utile en voyage (complément de tapis de sol, abriter des bagages, ou même s'abriter ...) - bref, que des avantages
michel mathieu
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D'habitude je prends un grand sac tressé à 2€ du marché et j'enroule avec les tendeurs voire des sangles si j'en ai. Pour notre dernier retour comme on en avait pas on a juste récolté des cartons dans la rue pour les vélos et on a aussi fait un gros cartons pour les saccoches avec du scotch autour. On l'a aussi fait emballé dans du plastique à l'aéroport pour qu'il soit solidifié et qu'on soit pas bloqué au check-in. (en fait on l'a fait 2x parce que la première fois on avait pas mis les bonnes saccoches dedans...prrrr)
Bonjour
pour le dernier voyage nous avons pris le sac avion de Decth http://www.decathlon.fr/housse-avion-id_4382082.html
c'est pas lourd , assez solide , mais encombrant si on le garde avec soit sur le vélo . Pour le prochain voyage , je pense paraffiner les sacoches entre elles comme le vélo , ça ne fait qu'un bagage et c'est assez solide ( déjà testé ) .
j'ai bien failli payé pour 3 bagages lors d'un voyage précédent car je n'avais pas réuni les 4 sacoches et la tente dans un seul sac ...c'est l’hôtesse de British airway qui m'a donné un grand sac plastique sinon l’addition aurait été salée ...
Laurent
pour le dernier voyage nous avons pris le sac avion de Decth http://www.decathlon.fr/housse-avion-id_4382082.html
c'est pas lourd , assez solide , mais encombrant si on le garde avec soit sur le vélo . Pour le prochain voyage , je pense paraffiner les sacoches entre elles comme le vélo , ça ne fait qu'un bagage et c'est assez solide ( déjà testé ) .
j'ai bien failli payé pour 3 bagages lors d'un voyage précédent car je n'avais pas réuni les 4 sacoches et la tente dans un seul sac ...c'est l’hôtesse de British airway qui m'a donné un grand sac plastique sinon l’addition aurait été salée ...
Laurent
Bonjour,
Pour solidariser 2 sacoches en un bagage, j'avais :
- utiliser des colliers rilsan aux points d'attache possibles (par ex, les poignées) - empacter les sacoches avec de la ficelle comme pour en faire un gros colis - enrouler le tout dans du film d'emballage.
Cela a très bien tenu. Je me dis que si c'est faisable avec 2 sacoches, c'est faisable avec 4. En plus, en mettant les sacoches dos à dos, les fixations sont protégées).
Si c'est en cours de voyage et que tu ne trouves pas de rouleau de film, il est possible de faire filmer à l'aéroport (pour un coût prohibitif mais c'est un autre débat)
Cordialement
Pour solidariser 2 sacoches en un bagage, j'avais :
- utiliser des colliers rilsan aux points d'attache possibles (par ex, les poignées) - empacter les sacoches avec de la ficelle comme pour en faire un gros colis - enrouler le tout dans du film d'emballage.
Cela a très bien tenu. Je me dis que si c'est faisable avec 2 sacoches, c'est faisable avec 4. En plus, en mettant les sacoches dos à dos, les fixations sont protégées).
Si c'est en cours de voyage et que tu ne trouves pas de rouleau de film, il est possible de faire filmer à l'aéroport (pour un coût prohibitif mais c'est un autre débat)
Cordialement
J'oublais :
S'il y a de la place dans le carton à vélo, on peut toujours y glisser une sacoche...
S'il y a de la place dans le carton à vélo, on peut toujours y glisser une sacoche...
bonjour.
J'utilise un grand sac IKEA , et une sacoche en cabine.
J'utilise un grand sac IKEA , et une sacoche en cabine.
bonjour,
Avec un sac a dos et 3 sacoches , le tout bien rempli et pesé. Sac debout , contre le dos 2 sacoches (les grandes) une sur l'autre plus une troisieme 12,5 sur la tranche , le tout faisant la même hauteur que le sac. Je solidarise le tout avec 2 sangles a bloquage , une en vertical l'autre horizontale , que je conserve ensuite pour le trip. ça me faisait quasiement la taille d'une grosse valise, la plus maousse. La 4eme sacoche comme valise de cabine. Avec Iberia et British Airways A/R Buenos Aires aucun souci. Un coup de filmage c'est encore mieux vu!!
Avec un sac a dos et 3 sacoches , le tout bien rempli et pesé. Sac debout , contre le dos 2 sacoches (les grandes) une sur l'autre plus une troisieme 12,5 sur la tranche , le tout faisant la même hauteur que le sac. Je solidarise le tout avec 2 sangles a bloquage , une en vertical l'autre horizontale , que je conserve ensuite pour le trip. ça me faisait quasiement la taille d'une grosse valise, la plus maousse. La 4eme sacoche comme valise de cabine. Avec Iberia et British Airways A/R Buenos Aires aucun souci. Un coup de filmage c'est encore mieux vu!!
un gros sac poubelle noir à gravas, indéchirable pas cher et qui ne pèse presque rien.
Bonne préparation.
Joievélo
Bonne préparation.
Joievélo
Salut voisin !
Les magasins à gauche en montant le cours victor Hugo (juste après l'arche, coté pont de pierre) qui vendent des produits d'Afrique du nord ont des cabas de bonne taille (vérifie les fermetures éclaires car certains sont cassés).
j'en ai placé les 2 sacoches avants ortlieb ensemble dos à dos et une sacoche arrière à coté, le tout sanglé dans mon super cabas 3,50 € - et comme Cp83210 1 en bagage à main. J'avais mis ma sacoche de guidon dedans aussi avec tout ce qu'il est interdit en cabine pour ne pas me trouver dans l'embrouille.
Méfis toi si tu part de Mérignac - faut baisser la selle et attacher la roue avant au cadre sinon ça ne passe pas le tapis roulant du scanner du bagage hors gabarits - même quand la compagnie aérienne dise juste d'enlever les pédales et tourner le guidon et de mettre en carton.
Leroy Merlin, et sans doute Casto, ont des sacs impecs pour placer deux sacoches. C'est solide, d'un prix ridicule et très léger. Ils vendent ça au comptoir des matériaux.
Dans les aéroports, il y a des services de "mise sous film plastique" où ils embobinent tous tes bagages ensemble très solidement (bonjour le gaspillage cependant). Ca a l'avantage d'être très solide et de former qu'un bagage.
Planificateur d'itinéraire vélo : http://www.bike-and-hike-route.com
gros scotch, carton, sangles, grand sac tati.
J'ai longtemps lié les sacoches avec de la corde à linge intérieur métallique puis j'ai abandonné au profit des sangles certes plus lourdes.
Certaines compagnies font des histoires quand les sacoches sont liées entre elles, donc préférez le sac tati géant...
J'ai longtemps lié les sacoches avec de la corde à linge intérieur métallique puis j'ai abandonné au profit des sangles certes plus lourdes.
Certaines compagnies font des histoires quand les sacoches sont liées entre elles, donc préférez le sac tati géant...
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Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!