Adresse fiscale pour voyages longues durées (+1an)
by YvesDeToulon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour 🙂
je suis un français de 54 ans en pré-retraite et j'ai choisi de voyager pour l'instant.
en tant que rentier, je paye mes impôts et je trouve cela normal.
mon problème est celui-ci:
j'ai tout quitté en france, je ne possède rien.
pour les impôts il me faut, malheureusement, une adresse en france.
je n'aime pas être dépendant de quelqu'un mais cette fois là, j'ai été bloqué... j'ai dû demander à des amis s'ils pouvaient me 'prêter' leur adresse. ils m'ont répondu que oui et, il y a une semaine, j'ai reçu un courrier de leurs part, me disant que leur taxe d'habitation avait augmenté parce que j'étais 'hébergé' chez eux. évidemment j'ai de suite fait un virement pour leur rembourser la somme qu'ils ont payé en plus MAIS, mon problème est que ce n'est absolument pas normal... je ne dois pas cette somme, et eux encore moins bien sûre, puisque je voyage depuis 2 ans.
après plusieurs courriers aux impôts, on tourne en rond, ils se renvoient l’ascenseur sans cesse (le service normal et Le Service des Impôts des Particuliers Non Résidents). apparemment, pas de solution pour mon cas que d'avoir une adresse en france... chose que je ne souhaite pas puisque je n'y suis plus !
j'ai ce problème parce que je passe d'un pays à un autre et que, pour l'instant, je ne suis pas résident d'un pays étranger. par exemple, un ami dans la même situation que moi et qui est déclaré en thaïlande, n'a pas du tout ce problème.
quelqu'un connait-il une autre personne dans le même cas que moi et qui a résolu le problème SANS dépendre d'une adresse 'fictive' et gêner quelqu'un d'autre ? je ne veux surtout pas être 'assisté' mais trouver un moyen officiel, légal et où je me débrouille seul.
merci à tous
bonne journée 😏
yves
slt
je suis entrain effectivement de regarder à faire cela mais .. au costa rica où je suis actuellement
🙂
Bonjour Yves.....c'est Yves
Il me semble que la loi 69-3 article 7 du 3 janvier 1969 est faite pour toi !
c'est celle qui s'applique aux "SDF" en permettant de solliciter un rattachement de commune mais sans aucun justificatif
il faudra (je crois) demander une autorisation a la mairie de ton choix, qui devient ton adresse legale (ou son service social parfois)...ca va les changer des gens du voyage, c'est sur !
Bon courage et bonne route
Yves
Bonjour Yves
je suis moi même dans une situation de voyage et vient de passer 10 mois au mali et 1 an a madagascar pour de l'humanitaire en tant qu'indépendante changeant de lieux d'associations de régions bref pas trés pratique pour le courrier ces deux fois là j'ai des amis qui se sont chargés des courriers car j'avais opté pour un transfert (depuis mon adresse de domicile principal que j'avais encore)
par contre cette fois ci je dois aller en amérique du sud pour plusieurs mois et comme depuis quelques jours j'ai vendu ma maison il me semble que la solution est de passer par le courrier des voyageurs vous trouverez leur site sur internet
www.courrier-du-voyageur.com/
ça laisse une indépendance totale sans avoir besoin de qui que ce soit ils s'occupent aussi des recommandés
Pour ma part j'ai déjà changé mon adresse de courriers réguliers non importants afin qu'ils arrivent chez des amis donc cela laisse peu de courrier vers "courrier du voyageur"
cordialement Mary-jo
je suis moi même dans une situation de voyage et vient de passer 10 mois au mali et 1 an a madagascar pour de l'humanitaire en tant qu'indépendante changeant de lieux d'associations de régions bref pas trés pratique pour le courrier ces deux fois là j'ai des amis qui se sont chargés des courriers car j'avais opté pour un transfert (depuis mon adresse de domicile principal que j'avais encore)
par contre cette fois ci je dois aller en amérique du sud pour plusieurs mois et comme depuis quelques jours j'ai vendu ma maison il me semble que la solution est de passer par le courrier des voyageurs vous trouverez leur site sur internet
www.courrier-du-voyageur.com/
ça laisse une indépendance totale sans avoir besoin de qui que ce soit ils s'occupent aussi des recommandés
Pour ma part j'ai déjà changé mon adresse de courriers réguliers non importants afin qu'ils arrivent chez des amis donc cela laisse peu de courrier vers "courrier du voyageur"
cordialement Mary-jo
J'ai eu le même problème avec mon fils, je l'ai domicilié chez moi et du coup j'ai ma taxe d'habitation qui a augmenté, je n'ai toujours pas pu régler l'histoire avec les impôts et j'ai laisser tomber, je pense que dans ce cas là il faut aller voir le service
des impôts et expliquer le cas il doit bien y avoir des solutions.
Je ne savais pas qu'il fallait absolument une adresse en france quand on s'expatrait.
Je pense que dans ce cas là, il vaut mieux gruger et te faire enregistrer dans un pays quelquonque.
Je pense que dans ce cas là, il vaut mieux gruger et te faire enregistrer dans un pays quelquonque.
Ce n'est pas quand on s'expatrie, dans ce cas on a une adresse fixe c'est seulement quand on part dans un long voyage genre tour du monde. Si on a des biens en France ou des revenus autres il faut bien payer les impôts donc une adresse fiscale en France puisque pas de domicile fixe.
Si on a aucun revenu pas de problème.
Mais au retour en France s'il n'y a pas eu de déclaration pendant plusieurs années il faut justifier, il est préférable de voir
tout ça avant le départ, ou bien faire des déclarations mais en mettant des revenus à Zéro, avec internet maintenant c'est facile.
De ce que je savais, il suffisait de demander un quitus fiscal et pour ceux qui ont des placements en france, les prélevements libératoires s'appliquaient car pour le reste, plus d'impots car on est plus résident fiscal français.
Comme quoi, j'en apprends une.
Comme quoi, j'en apprends une.
bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses.
pour le courrier du voyageur, ce n'est pas du tout ce que je cherche puisque je ne reçois plus de courrier. mon problème est juste pour les impôts.
apparemment trop compliqué de régler ce problème de l.étranger, pour instant, j ai tout simplement prévu et mis de côté l.argent qui sera injustement demandé à mes amis pour m.avoir, soit disant, hébergé !!! donc c du vol autorise
Mais tu as encore des ressources financières ( perception de loyers, produits financiers en france? Quand on pars, je me renseigne aussi car j'ai une grande envie de me barrer aussi avec ma compagne, notre avocat nous a conseillé de tout vendre et de clôturer tous nos compte en France.
bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses. pour le courrier du voyageur, ce n'est pas du tout ce que je cherche puisque je ne reçois plus de courrier. mon problème est juste pour les impôts. apparemment trop compliqué de régler ce problème de l.étranger, pour instant, j ai tout simplement prévu et mis de côté l.argent qui sera injustement demandé à mes amis pour m.avoir, soit disant, hébergé !!! donc c du vol autorise
bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses. pour le courrier du voyageur, ce n'est pas du tout ce que je cherche puisque je ne reçois plus de courrier. mon problème est juste pour les impôts. apparemment trop compliqué de régler ce problème de l.étranger, pour instant, j ai tout simplement prévu et mis de côté l.argent qui sera injustement demandé à mes amis pour m.avoir, soit disant, hébergé !!! donc c du vol autorise
Le mieux c'est tout faire par internet puisque tu peux faire ta déclaration et recevoir ton avis d'imposition sur internet, c'est surtout pour l'année précédant ton départ par exemple cette année c'est pour les impôts 2013, après si tu n'as plus de revenus
en France tu t'en fiches.
Le mieux est quand même d'aller aux impôts et leur demander comment faire pour être en règle car si tu reviens en France il ne faut pas que tu sois embêté.
bonjour à tous
alors oui, j'ai encore des revenus en france puisque je suis en pré-retraite
et oui, je fais tout par internet
MAIS le seul hic, encore une fois, c juste que je suis obligé de me déclarer quelque part en france, chose qui en pratique est fausse puisque en sepembre ça fera 3 ans que je suis en voyage. ET donc, ça fait augmenter les impots locaux de mes amis, sans aucune raison. c ça qui me met un peu en colère !!
donc, g déjà mis de côté l'argent pour leur rembourser le surplus, mais c de l'argent qui part injustement !!!
à part c petit problème tout se règle bien par internet :)
bonjour à tous
être imposé sur mes revenus, ne me dérange pas, c mon devoir comme tout à chacun
mais payer une somme qui n'est absolument pas justifiée, ça me dérange beaucoup.
et oui, avant ce 01/01, je suis allé à mon ambassade, au costa rica, et je me suis fait enregistrer comme français résident à l'étranger. je vais déclarer mes impots au services des français résidents à l'étranger et je vais donner mon numéro d'enregistrement, avec tout cela, ça devrait changer les choses :)
pas besoin d'enregistrement fictif puisque mon cas est réel, j'habite bien à l'étranger MAIS sans être résident pour l'instant, c'est ça qui ne plait pas !!
:)
Pourquoi tu ne liquides pas tout ce que tu as en France? Comme cela tu es tranquille. Et prendre un statut résident dans un pays oú tu n'es plus imposé, c'est possible.
mais c'est exactement ce que j'ai fait il y a bientôt 3 ans, je n'ai absolument plus rien en france. je reçois seulement ma paye, de pré-retraité....
:)
bonne journée à tous
ps: je suis entrain de me faire un trip au nicaragua... je conseille à ceux qui n'ont pas trop d'argent de faire ce pays pas chère du tout et avec, encore, des tribus à voir du côté de Bluefields.... du réel à pas chère !!
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From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel