Aéroport Egypte: Refus embarquement malgré passeport français valide
by Robco
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Un ami est en Egypte mais il a perdu sa CI, il a son passeport mais à l'aéroport on ne veut pas le laisser partir sans cette CI. Il doit être rapatrié suite à un accident et a les papiers de l'hôpital sur lui. Doit il payer pour cette CI, si oui quel est le montant?
Merci de votre réponse
Ton ami français a un passeport valide et "l'aéroport" refuse de le laisser rentrer en France sans carte d'identité ?
Il y a quelque chose qui cloche là-dedans...
Tu devrais modifier le titre de ta discussion en : Refus d'embarquement malgré passeport français valide ... ça attirerait plus de lecteurs dont certains spécialistes.
(en haut de ton 1er message tu as un lien "options" puis "modifier mon message")
Tu devrais modifier le titre de ta discussion en : Refus d'embarquement malgré passeport français valide ... ça attirerait plus de lecteurs dont certains spécialistes.
(en haut de ton 1er message tu as un lien "options" puis "modifier mon message")
Salut, je pense que la seule solution est d'appele son ambassade ou consulat. Normalement le passport est la piece qui prouve que vous pouvez retourner dans votre pays, peut etre il manque un bout de l'histoire...
MGTOW: Man going their own way...
"Plutôt que d'être malin, vaut mieux être bon " ou les deux.
"Plutôt que d'être malin, vaut mieux être bon " ou les deux.
Bonsoir ,
C'est sûr qu'il nous manque un morceau : le passeport 'prime ' sur la CNI !
Peut-être que le Visa, obtenu avec la Carte d'identité , est à côté et qu'il a été perdu aussi ?
Pas très clair ... : on ne peut que spéculer .
Bonne soirée à tous .
Pas très clair ... : on ne peut que spéculer .
Bonne soirée à tous .
Brigitte
Mon ami est français, il est en Egypte et doit rentrer en France
C'est l'aéroport qui refuse de le laisser partir sans sa CI
Votre ami ne serait-il pas bi-national, entré en Egypte avec son passeport égyptien, ce qui pourrait expliquer que la Paf exige la preuve de sa nationalité française pour quitter le pays.
Votre ami ne serait-il pas bi-national, entré en Egypte avec son passeport égyptien, ce qui pourrait expliquer que la Paf exige la preuve de sa nationalité française pour quitter le pays.
Mais justement, son passeport français ne prouve t'il pas sa nationalité française ?
Je pencherais aussi pour le visa délivré avec le CNI qui aurait été perdu.
Mais on n'a pas tous les éléments de l'histoire.
Je pencherais aussi pour le visa délivré avec le CNI qui aurait été perdu.
Mais on n'a pas tous les éléments de l'histoire.
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
Bonjour ,
Sitôt levée , je lis votre message :
" le passeport est un document de voyage qui n'établit pas la nationalité."
Pour le coup, je suis bien réveillée : je prends mon passeport ,
2ème page : passeport établi par telle commune ... , Belgique . En dessous : Nom , ... et à la ligne suivante : " nationalité : belge "
Du coup , mon incompréhension est totale ; de plus , des amis FRANçAIS nous accompagnaient l'an passé à Luxor et n'ont présenté QUE leur passeport ... Je vais arrêter de lire cette discussion ... fumeuse .
Bonne journée à tous et bon courage pour la suite !
" le passeport est un document de voyage qui n'établit pas la nationalité."
Pour le coup, je suis bien réveillée : je prends mon passeport ,
2ème page : passeport établi par telle commune ... , Belgique . En dessous : Nom , ... et à la ligne suivante : " nationalité : belge "
Du coup , mon incompréhension est totale ; de plus , des amis FRANçAIS nous accompagnaient l'an passé à Luxor et n'ont présenté QUE leur passeport ... Je vais arrêter de lire cette discussion ... fumeuse .
Bonne journée à tous et bon courage pour la suite !
Brigitte
Ah, ce présomptif...
Cela n'a pas changé depuis ?
www.service-public.fr/...ers/vosdroits/F18713
La présentation de l'un des documents suivants suffit à prouver votre nationalité.Carte d'identité valide ou périmée depuis moins de 5 ansPasseport sécurisé (électronique ou biométrique) de moins de 5 ansPasseport (non sécurisé) valide ou périmé depuis moins de 2 ans.
D'accord cela concerne l'établissement d'une pièce d'identité. D'accord cela ne concerne que les cinq premières années de validité du passeport (sauf s'ils ont oublié "périmé" de moins de 5 ans.
www.service-public.fr/...ers/vosdroits/F18713
La présentation de l'un des documents suivants suffit à prouver votre nationalité.Carte d'identité valide ou périmée depuis moins de 5 ansPasseport sécurisé (électronique ou biométrique) de moins de 5 ansPasseport (non sécurisé) valide ou périmé depuis moins de 2 ans.
D'accord cela concerne l'établissement d'une pièce d'identité. D'accord cela ne concerne que les cinq premières années de validité du passeport (sauf s'ils ont oublié "périmé" de moins de 5 ans.
y'a tout de même une info qui manque à cette histoire.
le document d'entrée ne doit pas avoir été le même que le document présenté à la sortie ... si le doc de sortie ne présente pas la trace de l'entrée, normal que le pays se pose des questions .....
n'oublions pas le contexte.
on aura je l'espère une réponse ... et un épilogue !
Ah, ce présomptif...
🙂
Ca ne serait pas la première fois que les services de l'Etat se contrediraient.
Pour faire établir une carte d'identité consulaire, il m'a été demandé une CNI que je n'avais plus (volée).
Je n'avais pas jugé bon de la faire refaire persuadé que j'étais qu'un passeport était un document "supérieur" à la CNI.
Un passeport portant la mention "nationalité française", je ne voyais pas où était le problème.
C'est là que le consulat m'a dit que le passeport n'était qu'un document de voyage qui ne prouvait pas ma nationalité française.
J'ai dû faire faire une CNI (au consulat 😄) en fournissant un extrait de naissance et pu ensuite obtenir ma carte consulaire.
Mais les choses ont peut-être changé comme vous dites.🙂
🙂
Ca ne serait pas la première fois que les services de l'Etat se contrediraient.
Pour faire établir une carte d'identité consulaire, il m'a été demandé une CNI que je n'avais plus (volée).
Je n'avais pas jugé bon de la faire refaire persuadé que j'étais qu'un passeport était un document "supérieur" à la CNI.
Un passeport portant la mention "nationalité française", je ne voyais pas où était le problème.
C'est là que le consulat m'a dit que le passeport n'était qu'un document de voyage qui ne prouvait pas ma nationalité française.
J'ai dû faire faire une CNI (au consulat 😄) en fournissant un extrait de naissance et pu ensuite obtenir ma carte consulaire.
Mais les choses ont peut-être changé comme vous dites.🙂
Chère Colette,
Est-ce qu'on sait tout de cette histoire (tous les détails)? Je crains qu'on ne sache pas tout.
Oui, on peut refuser l'embarquement d'un passager, malgré un passeport français valide. Chaque pays a le droit de faire ainsi. Par exemple si la personne voulant partir ait commis des délits et/ou la justice refuse un départ du pays de cette personne ("sous enquête).
C'est bien possible et "légal". Tous les pays font ainsi, y compris la France ou la Suisse. Il faudra savoir bien plus sur les circonstances exactes afin de donner un avis et/ou des suggestions. Chris
Est-ce qu'on sait tout de cette histoire (tous les détails)? Je crains qu'on ne sache pas tout.
Oui, on peut refuser l'embarquement d'un passager, malgré un passeport français valide. Chaque pays a le droit de faire ainsi. Par exemple si la personne voulant partir ait commis des délits et/ou la justice refuse un départ du pays de cette personne ("sous enquête).
C'est bien possible et "légal". Tous les pays font ainsi, y compris la France ou la Suisse. Il faudra savoir bien plus sur les circonstances exactes afin de donner un avis et/ou des suggestions. Chris
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In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel




