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Antipaludique en Thaïlande et au Cambodge
by Nomadman
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je parts du 29/12/2014 au 07/02/2015 au cambodge(20j) puis (20j) en Thailande et j'aimerais savoir si un anti-palludique et conseiller pendant la période sèche, sachant que je parts en routard avec hébergements en guesthouses et surement 1 0u 2 randonnées.
Merçie a vous de vos suggestions.
nomadman
nomadman
Salut voisin,
Pas besoin de traitement préventif antipalu mais il faut se protéger du mieux possible des piqûres des moustiques qui peuvent propager la dengue. Donc répulsif (acheté sur place) et vérification des moustiquaires ou des grillages aux fenêtres des chambres. J'emporte toujours un rouleau d'adhésif pour colmater d'éventuels trous.
Pour notre trajet sur 8 mois en ASE le médecin spécialisé en médecine tropicale nous a conseillé un traitement que sur la zone "Nord laos / Nord vietnam"..... donc à priori pas de nécessité pour vous hormis ceux cités par "Lepiaf"......
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boris
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boris
Bonjour Yann,
N'écoutez surtout pas les conseils de ceux qui vous disent de ne pas prendre de traitement antipaludéen sans savoir dans quelles secteurs vous avez l'intention d'aller vous promener ni dans quelles conditions vous avez prévu de voyager.
Seul un médecin spécialisé pourra vous donnez des informations pertinentes, surement pas un touriste qui ne connait pas l'état sanitaire de la totalité d'un pays et ne sais pas ce que vous avez l'intention de faire.
Votre santé mérite bien plus que ces conseils irréfléchis.
Jean Michel.
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
Quel ton moralisateur pour ne rien dire ! A 42 ans, Yann est assez grand pour consulter s'il en éprouve le besoin. S'il pose ses questions sur une forum de voyage, c'est pour avoir l'avis de voyageurs, ce que je suis.
Mon avis est qu'il est inutile, voire nocif, de prendre un traitement préventif antipalu (qui n'empêche pas d'attraper le palu mais diffère l'apparition des symptômes).
Quand je voyage dans un pays fortement impaludé, je prends avec moi un traitement curatif au cas où, mais pas de traitement préventif.
Sans commentaires ...
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merçi a vous pour vos réponses éclairantes.
nomadman
nomadman
Risb,
Merci pour vos rèponses éclairantes
nomadman
Merci pour vos rèponses éclairantes
nomadman
JPMe,
Je sais qu'un médecin peut lui seul me suggérer ou pas la prise d'un antipalludique selon la période et le pays ou lequel on séjourne:mais quoique s'il connais néanmoins et s'y il est spécialiste des maladies tropicales:je prends bonne note de toutes les suggestions et j'aviserais en mon ame et conscience
Bien a vous très cordialement!
Nomadman
Je sais qu'un médecin peut lui seul me suggérer ou pas la prise d'un antipalludique selon la période et le pays ou lequel on séjourne:mais quoique s'il connais néanmoins et s'y il est spécialiste des maladies tropicales:je prends bonne note de toutes les suggestions et j'aviserais en mon ame et conscience
Bien a vous très cordialement!
Nomadman
selon la période et le pays ou lequel on séjourne
Ce n'est pas tant le pays qui compte, mais les régions d'un pays dans lesquelles vous avez l'intention d'aller. Dans la plupart des pays asiatiques il y a d'immenses zones qui ne posent pas de problèmes, par contre certaines sont beaucoup plus risquées. Et effectivement la période à une incidence forte. Bonne préparation. Jean Michel.
Ce n'est pas tant le pays qui compte, mais les régions d'un pays dans lesquelles vous avez l'intention d'aller. Dans la plupart des pays asiatiques il y a d'immenses zones qui ne posent pas de problèmes, par contre certaines sont beaucoup plus risquées. Et effectivement la période à une incidence forte. Bonne préparation. Jean Michel.
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
bon,
Il est vrai que j'ai assez peu développé et que du coup on s'attire certaines remarques enfantines de VFiste qui ayant voyagé 5 mois en Asie se prend pour le nouveau Henri Mouhot.....
Il est certain que pour ce type de questions, seul un médecin spé peut vous conseiller selon votre trajet.... Ceci étant j'ai voyagé plusieurs fois seul en Asie ou ailleurs et j'ai parfois pris des traitements ou pas (pour le coup je voyai avec ma conscience!!!!)
Si je me suis permis de vous répondre, c'est que pour ce voyage de 8 mois en Asie avec mes enfants j'ai consulté 2 médecins spé tropicale différents, plus aléatoirement notre pédiatre, et note médecin traitant.
J'ai aussi beaucoup consulté ce forum et je suis en contact avec un certain nombres de famille en voyage......
Bref, le consensus qui se dégage de tout cela, c'est que si vous partez hors période de mousson, sur un trajet disons classique (type celui du VFiste cité plus haut) et que vous n'allez pas dans certains coins reculés au fin fond de la Thailande et du Cambodge, il n'est effectivement pas nécessaire de prendre un traitement Anti palu en préventif.
En général et c'est ce que les 2 médecins spé m'ont conseillé, c'est de prendre un traitement en curatif a prendre en cas de fortes fièvres et ou cas ou nous serions dans l'impossibilité de rejoindre un dispensaire, hôpital, etc.... (prescription selon le poids enfants ou adultes, je ne rentre pas dans le détail!).
Bien évidemment comme de nombreux membres VF, ils m'ont bien sur dit de faire du préventif : vêtements imprégnés, répulsif, .....etc (mais cà c'est de l'évidence!)
D'autant plus que concernant le sujet il n'y a pas que le Palu (propagé par le moustique femelle du genre anophele) mai aussi et surtout La dengue propagée par un moustique diurne et qui n'a pas de traitements à l'heure actuelle (pasteur en sort normalement un en 2016), si ce n'est la protection préventive.
pour le coup, sur le familles en voyage actuellement, plusieurs cas signalés ( comme Asiedusudestenfamille qui l'a chopé en Indonesie)
Bref chacun fait selon sa conscience mais dans l'ensemble un certain % se dégage dans les réponses sur ce sujet (mais comme dit par le médecin spécialisé en médecine tropicale, "tout cela est un compromis".
J'espere vous avoir répondu de manieres plus précises........
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boris
Il est vrai que j'ai assez peu développé et que du coup on s'attire certaines remarques enfantines de VFiste qui ayant voyagé 5 mois en Asie se prend pour le nouveau Henri Mouhot.....
Il est certain que pour ce type de questions, seul un médecin spé peut vous conseiller selon votre trajet.... Ceci étant j'ai voyagé plusieurs fois seul en Asie ou ailleurs et j'ai parfois pris des traitements ou pas (pour le coup je voyai avec ma conscience!!!!)
Si je me suis permis de vous répondre, c'est que pour ce voyage de 8 mois en Asie avec mes enfants j'ai consulté 2 médecins spé tropicale différents, plus aléatoirement notre pédiatre, et note médecin traitant.
J'ai aussi beaucoup consulté ce forum et je suis en contact avec un certain nombres de famille en voyage......
Bref, le consensus qui se dégage de tout cela, c'est que si vous partez hors période de mousson, sur un trajet disons classique (type celui du VFiste cité plus haut) et que vous n'allez pas dans certains coins reculés au fin fond de la Thailande et du Cambodge, il n'est effectivement pas nécessaire de prendre un traitement Anti palu en préventif.
En général et c'est ce que les 2 médecins spé m'ont conseillé, c'est de prendre un traitement en curatif a prendre en cas de fortes fièvres et ou cas ou nous serions dans l'impossibilité de rejoindre un dispensaire, hôpital, etc.... (prescription selon le poids enfants ou adultes, je ne rentre pas dans le détail!).
Bien évidemment comme de nombreux membres VF, ils m'ont bien sur dit de faire du préventif : vêtements imprégnés, répulsif, .....etc (mais cà c'est de l'évidence!)
D'autant plus que concernant le sujet il n'y a pas que le Palu (propagé par le moustique femelle du genre anophele) mai aussi et surtout La dengue propagée par un moustique diurne et qui n'a pas de traitements à l'heure actuelle (pasteur en sort normalement un en 2016), si ce n'est la protection préventive.
pour le coup, sur le familles en voyage actuellement, plusieurs cas signalés ( comme Asiedusudestenfamille qui l'a chopé en Indonesie)
Bref chacun fait selon sa conscience mais dans l'ensemble un certain % se dégage dans les réponses sur ce sujet (mais comme dit par le médecin spécialisé en médecine tropicale, "tout cela est un compromis".
J'espere vous avoir répondu de manieres plus précises........
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boris
Ce n'est pas parce que quelqu'un émet une opinion différente de la votre qu'il faut monter sur vos grands chevaux.
8 mois en Asie auraient du vous apporter un peu plus de zénitude 😛.
Sans rancune.
Jean Michel.
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http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
.. La dengue propagée par un moustique diurne et qui n'a pas de traitements à l'heure actuelle (pasteur en sort normalement un en 2016), si ce n'est la protection préventive.
pour le coup, sur le familles en voyage actuellement, plusieurs cas signalés ( comme Asiedusudestenfamille qui l'a chopé en Indonesie)
Bonsoir,
Des cas signalés à Koh Samui.
pour le coup, sur le familles en voyage actuellement, plusieurs cas signalés ( comme Asiedusudestenfamille qui l'a chopé en Indonesie)
Bonsoir,
Des cas signalés à Koh Samui.
Yep apparemment🤪.......! En plus les familles sur place se font "bouffer" malgré les "moyens" engagés
Bref nous partons avec de l'insect écran et nous verrons ce que nous pouvons trouver dans les 7/eleven
merci,
boris
Bref nous partons avec de l'insect écran et nous verrons ce que nous pouvons trouver dans les 7/eleven
merci,
boris
Mauvaise conjugaison : M'apporteront (je l'espère !!!) j'suis pas encore parti 😉😉
sans rancune aussi....
boris
sans rancune aussi....
boris
???!!!
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La réponse est simple : Institut Pasteur.
Ou hôpitaux militaires.
Hello jean pierre
Ton raisonnement est valable pour les villes et secteurs touristiques en Asie mais si tu devais aller en Afrique Subsaharienne par exemple, on ne parlerait plus du même niveau de risque et même si c'est loin d'être anodin, la prophylaxie deviendrait fortement conseillable😉 Pour l'Asie grosso modo, même avis de voyageur que toi mais pour une partie de l'Asie, ce qui est le sujet ici; dans d'autres coins du monde, la prophylaxie est nécessaire; globalement là ou le falciparum est prédominant à grande échelle
Ton raisonnement est valable pour les villes et secteurs touristiques en Asie mais si tu devais aller en Afrique Subsaharienne par exemple, on ne parlerait plus du même niveau de risque et même si c'est loin d'être anodin, la prophylaxie deviendrait fortement conseillable😉 Pour l'Asie grosso modo, même avis de voyageur que toi mais pour une partie de l'Asie, ce qui est le sujet ici; dans d'autres coins du monde, la prophylaxie est nécessaire; globalement là ou le falciparum est prédominant à grande échelle
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
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Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!






