Bonjour à tous, 🙂
Partant dans 2 semaines en Indonésie, je m'ocupe (enfin) de réserver mon avion...
Apres avoir pas mal traîner sur les forums de voyages, essentiellement ici, et bouquiner les guides, je vais faire le max du voyage sur Bali, je ferais bien aussi les volcans de JAVA EST, une ile GILI et LOMBOK (plongées ...) avec une bonne envie de faire une "croisiere" de 3 ou 4 jours vers FLORES et KOMODO.
Tout ca en 3 semaines.
S'il faut faire des choix j'éliminerai peut-être des volcans (étant auvergnat, j'ai ce qu'il faut à la maison 😛)
Les billets d'avions sont en moyenne 150 euros plus cher à DENPASAR (bali) par rapport à JAKARTA.
Est-ce que ca vaut le coup d'atterir à Jakarta et faire une première halte par exemple à Yogyakarta et les volcans, sachant qu'il faudra revenir à la fin (et donc dépenser des sous) ou finalement retenir Bali et faire des ramifications ?
En prenant bien sur en critères l'argent, mais aussi le temps que ca prendrait, et les emm... associées .
il est plus facile, de là, d'aller à Java EST (kawa ijen et Bromo), lombok et gilis ou encore komodo (croisiere de 3J et 2 nuits par la compagnie Perama par ex depart de Sengiggi sur lombok.
Oui pour 150€ de moins Jakarta est le bon plan et faire les volcans, ensuite tu peux prendre une lowcost pour te rendre à Bali comme Air Asia ou Lion air(40€) environ puis prendre le bateau pour Lombok
Moi je dirais Bali - pour 150 € de plus - autrement 2 vol Jakarta/Bali/Jakarta puis peut-être une nuit d´hôtel + taxi etc... tu vas pas économiser grand chose.😕
Surtout que tu n´as que 3 semaines
Un A/R sur Kuala Lumpur puis de là un vol sur YOG ou Solo pour l'aller et un vol depuis Bali au retour. Il faudra passer une nuit à l'aller et une nuit au retour à Kuala pour assurer les correspondances en cas de soucis.
Vous pouvez également regarder le prix d'un France-Yog ou Solo/ Dps-France.
1-un open jaw(c'est à dire à la réservation c'est multidestination) aller Jakarta retour Denpasar avec la même compagnie
Shunter Jakarta et filer sur Jojakarta et faire un volcan
se rendre en train ou en low cost Jojakarta -Bali
Résider à Bali pour la visite une bonne semaine
se rendre à Lombok et les iles autour pour la plongée
retour en avion depuis Denpasar
2-AR Bali
donc pas de volcan mais attention ce n 'est pas le puy de Pariou que tu loupes!
visite de Bali
Lombok et la plongée aux iles
une croisière sur Flores et Komodo mais il faudra s'y rendre sans doute en avion alors ce sera un AR à payer(à réserver sans doute avant de partir pour plus de sécurité)
Je connais bien 'I'indonésie pour m'y être rendue plusieurs fois, les transports terrestres sont lents sur Java
Choisis tes iles en fonction de tes gouts mais attention ne t égares pas trop car tu vas passer ton temps dans les transports plutôt que de visiter .
Bonnes préparations
Carassou
En farfouillant à nouveau le net, je vois effectivement comme économique l'idée de faire PARIS-KUALA LUMPUR et de prendre un low cost pour yogyakarta à l'aller et de faire Denpasar(bali)-KUALA LUMPUR au retour, comme je suis même pas obligé de de revenir sur mon point de départ 🙂
Avec environ 590 euros pour paris-Klumpur et moins de 100e de lowcost A/R c'est assez avantageux ... enfin ca me paraît bon marché non ?
Surtout que les vols pour PARIS-BALI prennent plus de 30h d'avions et bon, je l'ai fait déjà pour la Nouvelle Calédonie, c'est ... long 🤪
Si vous avez d'autres idée ou suggestion, je suis toujours preneur !
... des volcans (étant auvergnat, j'ai ce qu'il faut à la maison 😛)
T'as raison, les volcans indonésiens c'est de la gnognotte à côté des volcans auvergnats
Le Semeru (celui qui fume à l'arrière du Bromo) à Java, 3.676 mètres
Le Raung (vu depuis l'avion entre Denpasar et Jakarta) à Java, 3.332 mètres
L'Agung à Bali, 3.142 mètres
Le Rinjani (vu depuis les îles Gili) à Lombok, 3.726 mètres
L'Inerie à Flores, 2.245 mètres
En théorie, voyager élargit peut-être l'esprit, mais la plupart des gens le font pour se prouver, au bout du compte, qu'il sont aussi bien sur leur canapé.
Stephen McCauley
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Merci Ragamuffin pour votre poste qui a au moins le mérite de montrer de belles photos, Pour le fond, il me semblait que le smiley dans mon message suffisait à montrer le second degré, mais bon ...
Je préfère privilégier la plongée et Bali et non les trecks de volcans pour ce premier voyage en Indonésie, si le temps ne me permet pas de réaliser l’ensemble de mon programme. Je préfère rencontrer la population, l'art de vivre local, plutôt que des exploits de randonnées. Je me suis tapé le Cotopaxi en Equateur jusqu'à 5 000 m, c'est bon merci.
Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux.
Marcel Proust
En farfouillant à nouveau le net, je vois effectivement comme économique l'idée de faire PARIS-KUALA LUMPUR et de prendre un low cost pour yogyakarta à l'aller et de faire Denpasar(bali)-KUALA LUMPUR au retour, comme je suis même pas obligé de de revenir sur mon point de départ 🙂
Avec environ 590 euros pour paris-Klumpur et moins de 100e de lowcost A/R c'est assez avantageux ... enfin ca me paraît bon marché non ?
Surtout que les vols pour PARIS-BALI prennent plus de 30h d'avions et bon, je l'ai fait déjà pour la Nouvelle Calédonie, c'est ... long 🤪
Si vous avez d'autres idée ou suggestion, je suis toujours preneur !
Charles
Si c'est pour optimiser complètement, c'est pas forcément simple à faire. Passer par KL peut être plus économique sur le long courrier, mais la suite en low cost depuis KL sera plus chère que la suite en low cost depuis Jakarta. Et ceci dépend aussi de vos horaires car pouvez être contraint à séjourner en cours de route dans un endroit plus chez que vous ne l'aviez prévu.
Par ailleurs, arriver à Jakarta (tout comme Bali, d'ailleurs) peut certainement vous donner un accès des vols direct en low cost sur toute l'Indonésie, en particulier Labuanbajo si vous allez à Florès. Arrivée à JKT-> Jogja direct -> volcans -> Bali -> Lombok -> bateau vers Florès (et plongée la bas, plutôt), retour sur JKT.
Ceci étant, il y a peut-être des vols Florès-KL direct ou avec connexion pas trop longue...quand j'y suis allé, il n'y avait pas de vol du tout 😊
Je planifie un voyage la bas et l'alternative KL est moins intéressante financièrement pour les périodes envisagées.
Que le voyageur choisisse Jakarta, Kuala ou Singapour comme porte d'entrée, il faudra tout de même passer 2 nuits dans la ville histoire d'éviter les conséquences d'un retard aérien.
Personnellement, je préfère Singapour.
Pour le retour, on peut aussi choisir Bangkok puisqu'il y a des DPS BKK en low cost.
Il n'est pas nécessaire de passer 2 nuits si les horaires sont correctement choisis. On peut parfaitement enchaîner les vols à l'aller. Le low cost n'est pas le miracle et plus la distance parcourue est longue plus ça finit par coûter cher.
La seule différence avec Jkt, c'est que cela laisse potentiellement plus de possibilités de vols vraiment pas chers pour rayonner ou revenir en vols intra-Indonésie, de denpasar, mataram, labuan bajo, etc
Bon, résultat des cours :
J'ai pris un billet jusqu'en Malaisie, qui arrive tôt le matin à l'aller et repart tard le soir au retour.
Kuala Lumpur étant un hub pour AIR ASIA, je pourrais facilement choisir ma première et dernière destination de voyage au dernier moment :)
Et en plus je volerai sur ETIHAD, dont on dit le plus grand bien apparamment. J'ai toujours voulu essayer les compagnies du Golf.
* au même titre que les autres compagnies du Golf Persique qui sont toutes des compagnies négrières transporteuses d'esclave modernes en provenance d'Asie du Sud et du Sud-Est
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Je recommande Qatar Airways. Il y a aussi des vols depuis Bordeaux, Marseile, Nice etc. Je vole toujour avec Qatar Airways depuis Milan ou Munich vers Jakarta.
Je vais partir en Indonésie en Juin et je me demande si il vaut mieux atterrir à Jakarta ou a denpasar. Je pars 15 jours, c'est court donc je ne voudrais pas…
Nous arrivons à Jakarta le 5 juillet et pensons décoller de Bali pour Taïwan, notre prochaine destination, aux environs du 30 juillet. Nous sommes un peu…
J'ai pour projet avec des amis de partir 3 semaines en septembre en Indonésie.. Nous allons arriver directement sur Jakarta.. Nous souhaitons faire Yogyarta…
Mon fils de 22 ans veut partir visiter cette région pour 3 semaines en auberge jeunesse et avec transport pas trop dispendieux. Pour ceux qui ont l'expérience…
Je pars dans 10 jours en indonesie pour une vingtaine de jours! j arrive a jakarta et irai jusqu'à bali. je n ai pas mes billets pour le retour bali - jakarta…
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing
July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao
August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide
August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena
August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands
August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts)
August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk
August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar
August 17: Rammang Rammang
August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary.
We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1**
Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2**
Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3**
Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4**
Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5**
Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6**
Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7**
Sidemen
**Day 8**
Sidemen
**Day 9**
Sidemen
**Day 10**
Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11**
Gili Air
**Day 12**
Gili Air
**Day 13**
Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14**
Ubud
**Day 15**
Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family?
Does it feel too packed or well-balanced?
Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?