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je pars vendredi je souhaite acheter un rubis à rangoon ou dois je aller ? et pour 100 euro peut on avoir un rubis quel sera sa taille?
Budget pour l'achat d'un rubis à Rangoon?
by Lmd
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Pour ton information, l'argent des rubis va directement dans la poche de la junte au pouvoir 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
faux : la transaction d'une part important du nombre de rubis birmans échappe à tout contrôle étatique, depuis leur extraction jusqu'à leur sortie du pays.
Et pour 100 € tu n'auras qu'un misérable petit caillou....
faux : le prix des rubis de la plus basse qualité n'est que de quelques centimes d'euros. et ce sont bien des rubis.
faux : la transaction d'une part important du nombre de rubis birmans échappe à tout contrôle étatique, depuis leur extraction jusqu'à leur sortie du pays.
Et pour 100 € tu n'auras qu'un misérable petit caillou....
faux : le prix des rubis de la plus basse qualité n'est que de quelques centimes d'euros. et ce sont bien des rubis.
+1 , , IMD petit conseille garde ton argent et tu ne seras pas déçu , , les vrais acheteurs ne passe pas par le canal <demande comment acheter un corindon via un forum , , 🤪
ne pas oublier que il ya beaucoup de faux aussi , , 🤪
ne pas oublier que il ya beaucoup de faux aussi , , 🤪
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Si tu es un expert en pierres precieuses, tu trouveras peut-etre ton bonheur.
Il y a des rubis a tous les prix comme l'ecrit Gilbert.
Si tu es d'un niveau moyen voire en dessous de moyen, tu as toutes les chances de repartir avec un souvenir que tu auras paye 100 euros et qui ressemblera a un rubis de qualite mediocre.
Il y a des rubis a tous les prix comme l'ecrit Gilbert.
Si tu es d'un niveau moyen voire en dessous de moyen, tu as toutes les chances de repartir avec un souvenir que tu auras paye 100 euros et qui ressemblera a un rubis de qualite mediocre.
Les poches de la junte n'attendent pas le versement d'un pourcentage preleve sur l'achat d'un rubis a 100 euros.
Dans le meilleur des cas, le rubis achete vaudra 100 euros, dans le cas le plus probable, il vaudra certainement un peu moins...
Imagine la bonne affaire pour la junte...
Les poches de la junte preferent compter sur l'achat d'appartements dans des complexes avec golf prive que les chinois, les singapouriens et les taiwanais affectionnent. Pour quelques centaines de milliers d'euros ces garcons peuvent s'offrir ce qui leur couterait au minimum 20 fois plus cher chez eux. Idem pour les hotels en bord de mer, ou les terrains que l'armee possede.
Apres, il y a les revenus plus consequents. Aucun forumeur ne se permettrait de supposer que tu as des connaissances geopolitique limitees. Je me permettrait toutefois de te faire observer que la Chine serait tres contente d'avoir un acces direct a la mer d'Andaman. Ca raccourcit pas mal le trajet Afrique - Chine et ca securise beaucoup un des casse tete de ce pays, a savoir, son approvisionnement en matieres premieres. Imagines que les chinois ont une strategie qui porte le doux nom de ""Collier de perles ". On revient presque aux pierres precieuses. Ils sont tellement hantes par la crainte de se voir asphyxies par le manque de matieres premieres, qu'íls ont imagine quantites de solutions pour securiser leurs approvissionnements. Et comme ils sont tres mefiants vis a vis du detroit de Malacca, ils ont imagine plein de solutions pour eviter ce qui peut etre un blocage facile. Cela va du canal qui traverse l'isthme de Thailande a un acces direct a la mer via la Birmanie. En janv 2009 un article du Monde Diplomatique traitait de ce sujet. Tu lás certainement lu. L'engouement des chinois pour tout ce qui est controle des matieres premieres produites en Australie en est un autre exemple.
Donc, pour controler cet axe vital qui passe par la Birmanie, les chinois sont pres a jouer les genereux donateurs peu scrupuleux vis a vis de ceux qui ont l'autorite en Birmanie.
Bref, grace aux chinois, les dirigeants de la Birmanie ont tout ce qu'ils veulent et meme plus.
Mais ce n'est pas si simple !
L'Inde , la plus grande democratie du monde, se rend compte qu'elle ne peut absolument pas laisser la Birmanie "ouverte "aux chinois. Pour combler cette lacune, les democrates de ce pays sont prets eux aussi a jouer les genereux donateurs. Et la, l'Inde qui a beaucoup de retard n'est plus tres regardante.
Je te passes les envies que peuvent avoir la Thailande, Singapour, Taiwan le Japon et la Coree et les cadeaux que cela peut generer.
Pardonnes - moi Clavdia, mais il me semble que le backshish suppose a la junte qui resulterait de l'achat d'un rubis a 100 euros est un Carambar ou une Chupa Chup dans une negociation commerciale planetaire.
Bonsoir. ( il est 22h30 a Siem Reap )
Les poches de la junte preferent compter sur l'achat d'appartements dans des complexes avec golf prive que les chinois, les singapouriens et les taiwanais affectionnent. Pour quelques centaines de milliers d'euros ces garcons peuvent s'offrir ce qui leur couterait au minimum 20 fois plus cher chez eux. Idem pour les hotels en bord de mer, ou les terrains que l'armee possede.
Apres, il y a les revenus plus consequents. Aucun forumeur ne se permettrait de supposer que tu as des connaissances geopolitique limitees. Je me permettrait toutefois de te faire observer que la Chine serait tres contente d'avoir un acces direct a la mer d'Andaman. Ca raccourcit pas mal le trajet Afrique - Chine et ca securise beaucoup un des casse tete de ce pays, a savoir, son approvisionnement en matieres premieres. Imagines que les chinois ont une strategie qui porte le doux nom de ""Collier de perles ". On revient presque aux pierres precieuses. Ils sont tellement hantes par la crainte de se voir asphyxies par le manque de matieres premieres, qu'íls ont imagine quantites de solutions pour securiser leurs approvissionnements. Et comme ils sont tres mefiants vis a vis du detroit de Malacca, ils ont imagine plein de solutions pour eviter ce qui peut etre un blocage facile. Cela va du canal qui traverse l'isthme de Thailande a un acces direct a la mer via la Birmanie. En janv 2009 un article du Monde Diplomatique traitait de ce sujet. Tu lás certainement lu. L'engouement des chinois pour tout ce qui est controle des matieres premieres produites en Australie en est un autre exemple.
Donc, pour controler cet axe vital qui passe par la Birmanie, les chinois sont pres a jouer les genereux donateurs peu scrupuleux vis a vis de ceux qui ont l'autorite en Birmanie.
Bref, grace aux chinois, les dirigeants de la Birmanie ont tout ce qu'ils veulent et meme plus.
Mais ce n'est pas si simple !
L'Inde , la plus grande democratie du monde, se rend compte qu'elle ne peut absolument pas laisser la Birmanie "ouverte "aux chinois. Pour combler cette lacune, les democrates de ce pays sont prets eux aussi a jouer les genereux donateurs. Et la, l'Inde qui a beaucoup de retard n'est plus tres regardante.
Je te passes les envies que peuvent avoir la Thailande, Singapour, Taiwan le Japon et la Coree et les cadeaux que cela peut generer.
Pardonnes - moi Clavdia, mais il me semble que le backshish suppose a la junte qui resulterait de l'achat d'un rubis a 100 euros est un Carambar ou une Chupa Chup dans une negociation commerciale planetaire.
Bonsoir. ( il est 22h30 a Siem Reap )
Sans vouloir entrer dans une polémique avec toi, il ne s'agit pas de revenu sur des rubis à 100$ ou € dont il est question, mais du commerce général de cette pierre dont les plus belles sont envoyées à Paris, New York et ailleurs.
Alors, pas besoin de me donner une leçon au sujet de mon intervention qui signale simplement que l'argent provenant de la vente des pierres précieuses de Mogok et d'ailleurs va bien dans les poches de la junte. 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Alors, pas besoin de me donner une leçon au sujet de mon intervention qui signale simplement que l'argent provenant de la vente des pierres précieuses de Mogok et d'ailleurs va bien dans les poches de la junte. 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
As-tu déjà acheté un rubis en Birmanie ???😛
non, mais on m'en en déjà donné, et des saphirs aussi. et il devait bien y en avoir pour 30 cts d'euro en tout...
dans un marché de pierres - pas chez un bijoutier -
je n'y vois aucune différence, un acheteur non averti se fera tout autant arnaquer dans l'un que chez l'autre !
et je peux te dire que le prix du rubis n'est pas de quelques centimes d'euro. Loin de là !
qu'est ce que tu y connais au prix des rubis, après ta visite en tant que touriste occidentale chez un marchand qui a essayé de te vendre un cailloux à peut-être 1000 fois sa réelle valeur ? presque rien, comme moi quoi.
et je peux te dire que le prix du rubis
il n'y a pas UN prix du rubis, mais autant de prix différents que de rubis ! et ces prix vont bien de quelques centimes (même moins que ça !), à X USD.
non, mais on m'en en déjà donné, et des saphirs aussi. et il devait bien y en avoir pour 30 cts d'euro en tout...
dans un marché de pierres - pas chez un bijoutier -
je n'y vois aucune différence, un acheteur non averti se fera tout autant arnaquer dans l'un que chez l'autre !
et je peux te dire que le prix du rubis n'est pas de quelques centimes d'euro. Loin de là !
qu'est ce que tu y connais au prix des rubis, après ta visite en tant que touriste occidentale chez un marchand qui a essayé de te vendre un cailloux à peut-être 1000 fois sa réelle valeur ? presque rien, comme moi quoi.
et je peux te dire que le prix du rubis
il n'y a pas UN prix du rubis, mais autant de prix différents que de rubis ! et ces prix vont bien de quelques centimes (même moins que ça !), à X USD.
quels propos t'ont choqués ?
Nous achetons plutot les bijoux chez Vez. A coté du Gem Museum.
C'est plus cher que dans certaines galeries de bijoutiers situées dans le coin, c'est plus cher qu'a Boyo, mais c'est nettement mieux serti et de tres bonne qualité.
Vez vend aussi des rubis et d'autres pierres.
C'est plus cher, mais c'est garanti.
Je ne connais rien aux pierres precieuses, mais il me semble que la plupart des pierres vendues sont irradiées. On peut payer par carte bancaire, mais dans ce cas, il faut se contenter du rabais offert d'office.
C'est plus cher que dans certaines galeries de bijoutiers situées dans le coin, c'est plus cher qu'a Boyo, mais c'est nettement mieux serti et de tres bonne qualité.
Vez vend aussi des rubis et d'autres pierres.
C'est plus cher, mais c'est garanti.
Je ne connais rien aux pierres precieuses, mais il me semble que la plupart des pierres vendues sont irradiées. On peut payer par carte bancaire, mais dans ce cas, il faut se contenter du rabais offert d'office.
Nous achetons plutot les bijoux chez Vez.
satu, c'est qui "nous" ?🤪
satu, c'est qui "nous" ?🤪
je suis allé en birmanie en 2012.j'ai acheté 2 pierres au musée des pierres précieuses de Rangoon que j'ai fait expertiser à mon retour en france (expertise sérieuse de laboratoire, certificat) une pierre de 1.3 carat achetée 900 $ estimée 1600 € (rubis chauffé) et une pierre de 0.8 carat acheté 300 $ estimée 3600 €, rubis pur, non chauffé, très belle couleur. je n'y connait rien en pierres, je suis allé dans ce lieu car à priori, que des pierres birmanes et on vous signale si c'est un spinel et je me suis laissé guider par mon instinct, belle couleur, transparence, le choix est immense, il faut prendre son temps et quel bonheur pour les yeux ! j'ai acheté des pierres brutes que j'ai fait monter en france, le style des bijoux birmans est ...ancien
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Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)