Avis boucle San Francisco/San Francisco
by Lili2014
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Quel dommage de ne pas vous avoir découvert plus tôt!
Je prépare un voyage dans le grand ouest américain avec mon mari et mes deux enfants (10 et 13 ans) du 26 juillet eu 16 aout 2014.
Nous avons pris l'itinéraire recommandé par un cousin qui était aussi parti avec sa famille, mais il semble au vu de tout ce que j'ai lu que la boucle SF/SF ne soit pas l'idéal. Evidemment les billets sont pris...
Voici notre circuit :
- San Francisco (3jours)
- Parc Yosemite (hôtel Oakurst)
- Death Valley
- Las Vegas (1 ou 2 jours?)
- Zion
- Bryce Canyon
- Monument Valley
- Page (Lake Powell)
- Grand Canyon
- Los Angeles
- Santa Barbara
- San Francisco
Les hôtels ne sont pas encore réservés.
Je me demande s'il est judicieux d'aller à LA ou plutôt l'enlever du circuit et dans ce cas intégrer MOAB. Mais alors comment rentrer sur SF?
Merci par avance de votre aide précieuse.
Hello,
Pourrais tu détailler ton projet (jour par jour) car il y a 5 nuits de rab entre le nombre de jours et les lieux cités !
- manque aussi 1 nuit entre la sortie de Yosemite et DV (vers Mammoth ou Lone Pine).
variante après DV puis LV, boucle vers Zion pour revenir à LV (après GC) et vol intérieur de LV à SFO !
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Pourrais tu détailler ton projet (jour par jour) car il y a 5 nuits de rab entre le nombre de jours et les lieux cités !
- manque aussi 1 nuit entre la sortie de Yosemite et DV (vers Mammoth ou Lone Pine).
variante après DV puis LV, boucle vers Zion pour revenir à LV (après GC) et vol intérieur de LV à SFO !
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Hello
Le fait que les billets soient pris ne laisse en effet pas une grande amplitude!
26: arrivée SF 27 et 28: SF - Nuit SF 29: SF - Yosemite - Nuit Oakhurst 30: Oakhurst - Yosemite - Tioga Rd - Bodie - Nuit Lee Vining 31: Lee Vining - Alabama Hills - Death Valley - Nuit Furnace ou Stovepipe 1: Death Valley - Vegas 2: Vegas 3: Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Nuit Springdale 4: Springdale - Bryce - Nuit Bryce ou Tropic 5: Bryce - Page - Nuit Page 6: Page - Monument Valley - Nuit Monument Valley ou Maxican Hat 7: Mexican Hat - Grand Canyon - Nuit Tusayan ou Grand Canyon Village 8: Grand Canyon - Route 66 - Nuit Kingman 9: Kingman - LA 10 et 11: LA 12: LA - Santa Barbara 13: Santa Barbara - Monterey 14: Monterey - SF 15: 16: départ
Il te reste donc un jour à caser au choix dans les parcs où c'est rapide: Yosemite, Zion, Bryce Canyon ou Page. D'où dépend de tes préférences et des activités prévues.
Pour Moab, c'est pas possible. A moins de zapper la partie Los Angeles - Côte Pacifique, de retourner après Grand Canyon à Vegas pour prendre un vol interne pour San Francisco (prévoir 100$ par personne sur Southwest Airlines)
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Le fait que les billets soient pris ne laisse en effet pas une grande amplitude!
26: arrivée SF 27 et 28: SF - Nuit SF 29: SF - Yosemite - Nuit Oakhurst 30: Oakhurst - Yosemite - Tioga Rd - Bodie - Nuit Lee Vining 31: Lee Vining - Alabama Hills - Death Valley - Nuit Furnace ou Stovepipe 1: Death Valley - Vegas 2: Vegas 3: Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Nuit Springdale 4: Springdale - Bryce - Nuit Bryce ou Tropic 5: Bryce - Page - Nuit Page 6: Page - Monument Valley - Nuit Monument Valley ou Maxican Hat 7: Mexican Hat - Grand Canyon - Nuit Tusayan ou Grand Canyon Village 8: Grand Canyon - Route 66 - Nuit Kingman 9: Kingman - LA 10 et 11: LA 12: LA - Santa Barbara 13: Santa Barbara - Monterey 14: Monterey - SF 15: 16: départ
Il te reste donc un jour à caser au choix dans les parcs où c'est rapide: Yosemite, Zion, Bryce Canyon ou Page. D'où dépend de tes préférences et des activités prévues.
Pour Moab, c'est pas possible. A moins de zapper la partie Los Angeles - Côte Pacifique, de retourner après Grand Canyon à Vegas pour prendre un vol interne pour San Francisco (prévoir 100$ par personne sur Southwest Airlines)
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Salut j'ai fait trois fois la boucle mais de LA à LA avec de petites variantes à chaque fois. Moi comme tu peux imaginer j'apprécie beaucoup la boucle. Un mois c'est tout à fait possible et le rythme est correct. Je ne vois pas pourquoi ce n'est pas l'idéal. J'ai fait pratiquement que de motels et j'étais très content.
Ne hésites pas pour plus d'infos.
L
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Hello
Un mois c'est tout à fait possible
20 jours pour être précis! et 10 jours ça change tout 😛
La boucle c'est pas l'idéal si on a des envies de voir Moab et sa région...
Un mois c'est tout à fait possible
20 jours pour être précis! et 10 jours ça change tout 😛
La boucle c'est pas l'idéal si on a des envies de voir Moab et sa région...
Bonsoir et merci pour cette réponse rapide. Donc le circuit plus précis serait :
- San Francisco 3 nuits
- Yosemite Oakurst 1 nuit
- Bishop 1 nuit
- Death valley/furnace Creek 1 nuit
- Las Vegas 1 ou 2 nuits (sachant qu'on prendra 1 nuit au Bellagio pour se faire plaisir)
- Zion 1 nuit
- Bryce Canyon 2 nuits
- Monument Valley 1 nuit
- Page 2 nuits
- Grand Canyon 2 nuits
- Los Angeles 2 nuits
- Salinas 1 nuit
- San Francisco
Je crois que tu as inversé Monument Valley et Page dans ton circuit!
Merci pour les précisions.
Je vois avec le reste de la famille pour LOS ANGELES ou MOAB. Autour de moi les avis de mes amis déjà partis sont partagés. Certains n'ont pas aimé LA. Pour d'autres c'est sympa pour les enfants...
Je dois aussi me renseigner pour les frais d'abandon de véhicule à LAS VEGAS si nous prenons ce vol interne.
Hi,
" il semble au vu de tout ce que j'ai lu que la boucle SF/SF ne soit pas l'idéal"
Tout dépend du nombre de jours dont on dispose pour faire ce voyage, et des visites qu'on veut faire.
Ds le cas présent, sans Moab, la boucle convient parfaitement. Et avec Moab, il manque des jours (ds ce cas, il aurait donc été préférable de prévoir des lieux d'arrivée et de départ différents... mais cela occasionne très souvent des frais de drop off)
" il semble au vu de tout ce que j'ai lu que la boucle SF/SF ne soit pas l'idéal"
Tout dépend du nombre de jours dont on dispose pour faire ce voyage, et des visites qu'on veut faire.
Ds le cas présent, sans Moab, la boucle convient parfaitement. Et avec Moab, il manque des jours (ds ce cas, il aurait donc été préférable de prévoir des lieux d'arrivée et de départ différents... mais cela occasionne très souvent des frais de drop off)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Il n'y a pas de frais de restitution du véhicule entre SF et Vegas. En tout cas, disons que tu peux trouver! 😉
et ils ont eu le temps de faire tout ça? 😮
En ne faisant que traverser, demandez leur 😉
Et Monument Valley est à mon avis plus beau dans la lumière de fin d'après-midi.
Et Monument Valley est à mon avis plus beau dans la lumière de fin d'après-midi.
Hello
Je suis loin d'être un pro en la matière, ce n'est qu'une suggestion... Sauf erreur de ma part, pour longer la côte pacifique, on m'avait conseillé de la faire du nord au sud, de SF à LA... Serait-il envisageable pour toi dans faire ton circuit dans l'autre sens ? Qu'en disent les autres spécialistes de la région ? ;)
Quant à Moab ou LA, personne ne peut répondre à ta place, tout dépend de vos goûts personnels... Cela n'engage que moi, mais seule, je pencherais sans aucune hésitation pour Moab. Mais il me semble aussi qu'avec des enfants, il faut varier les plaisirs, et que dans ce cas la version côte pacifique et LA est à explorer très sérieusement... Je ne sais pas où tu en es dans tes préparatifs, mais ne manquez pas l'aquarium de Monterey, il en vaut vraiment la peine et est adapté aux enfants de tous les âges.
Bons préparatifs !
Je suis loin d'être un pro en la matière, ce n'est qu'une suggestion... Sauf erreur de ma part, pour longer la côte pacifique, on m'avait conseillé de la faire du nord au sud, de SF à LA... Serait-il envisageable pour toi dans faire ton circuit dans l'autre sens ? Qu'en disent les autres spécialistes de la région ? ;)
Quant à Moab ou LA, personne ne peut répondre à ta place, tout dépend de vos goûts personnels... Cela n'engage que moi, mais seule, je pencherais sans aucune hésitation pour Moab. Mais il me semble aussi qu'avec des enfants, il faut varier les plaisirs, et que dans ce cas la version côte pacifique et LA est à explorer très sérieusement... Je ne sais pas où tu en es dans tes préparatifs, mais ne manquez pas l'aquarium de Monterey, il en vaut vraiment la peine et est adapté aux enfants de tous les âges.
Bons préparatifs !
Korrigane
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Hello,
Oui j'ai lu aussi que cette côte était plus sympa du nord au sud car la route est plus proche de l'océan. Quelqu'un peut-il m'éclairer sur ce point? Le circuit peut-il donc se faire en sens inverse?
J'ai lu aussi qu'à choisir à Monterey mieux valait voir les baleines?...
J'ai fait la boucle 3 fois et tous les trois je l'ai fait dans le sens SF - LA. Je trouve la partie route 1 très interessant à condition de s'attarder un peu à la partie Big sur notament. Le choix entre Moab et LA n'a pas beaucoup de sens. Moab est une petite ville étape sympathique (certaines scénes cinematographiques de "Thelma et Louise" ont été tournée aux alentours). Moab peut être utilisé comme base pour faire de petites excursions. LA n'est pas une ville dans le sens europeenne des villes. C'est un amas de petites agglomerations qui ont fini par fusionner, le tout traversé par des autoroutes. Donc sejourné à Venice Beach ou à downtown ou à Beverly Hills ou autour de Sunset boulevard n'est pas du tout la même chose. Tres court. Disneyland ne vaut pas l'Eurodisney par contre Universal studios avec les enfant est un must. Le musée de Getry () absolument. La balade de Venice Beach à pied ou à vélos aussi. Sinon s'il vous faut un downtown type LA mais très safe alos il faut San Diego. C'est une ville du pacifique qui m'as beaucoup plu. Voila j'espere que ça t'aidera.
Yannis
J'ai fait la boucle 3 fois et tous les trois je l'ai fait dans le sens SF - LA. Je trouve la partie route 1 très interessant à condition de s'attarder un peu à la partie Big sur notament. Le choix entre Moab et LA n'a pas beaucoup de sens. Moab est une petite ville étape sympathique (certaines scénes cinematographiques de "Thelma et Louise" ont été tournée aux alentours). Moab peut être utilisé comme base pour faire de petites excursions. LA n'est pas une ville dans le sens europeenne des villes. C'est un amas de petites agglomerations qui ont fini par fusionner, le tout traversé par des autoroutes. Donc sejourné à Venice Beach ou à downtown ou à Beverly Hills ou autour de Sunset boulevard n'est pas du tout la même chose. Tres court. Disneyland ne vaut pas l'Eurodisney par contre Universal studios avec les enfant est un must. Le musée de Getry () absolument. La balade de Venice Beach à pied ou à vélos aussi. Sinon s'il vous faut un downtown type LA mais très safe alos il faut San Diego. C'est une ville du pacifique qui m'as beaucoup plu. Voila j'espere que ça t'aidera.
Yannis
26: arrivée SF
27 et 28: SF - Nuit SF
29: SF - Yosemite - Nuit Oakhurst
30: Oakhurst - Yosemite - Tioga Rd - Bodie - Nuit Lee Vining
31: Lee Vining - Alabama Hills - Death Valley - Nuit Furnace ou Stovepipe
1: Death Valley - Vegas
2: Vegas
3: Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Nuit Springdale
4: Springdale - Bryce - Nuit Bryce ou Tropic
5: Bryce - Page - Nuit Page
6: Page - Monument Valley - Nuit Monument Valley ou Maxican Hat
7: Mexican Hat - Grand Canyon - Nuit Tusayan ou Grand Canyon Village
8: Grand Canyon - Route 66 - Nuit Kingman
9: Kingman - LA
10 et 11: LA
12: LA - Santa Barbara
13: Santa Barbara - Monterey
14: Monterey - SF
15:
16: départ
Il te reste donc un jour à caser au choix dans les parcs où c'est rapide: Yosemite, Zion, Bryce Canyon ou Page. D'où dépend de tes préférences et des activités prévues.
Pour Moab, c'est pas possible. A moins de zapper la partie Los Angeles - Côte Pacifique, de retourner après Grand Canyon à Vegas pour prendre un vol interne pour San Francisco (prévoir 100$ par personne sur Southwest Airlines)
Bonsoir Itat,
Après avoir étudier le parcours, je pense que nous allons prendre un avion intérieur LA/SF Dans ce cas il me reste 3 jours à caser : Est-il possible dans ce cas de pousser sur MOAB, ce qui donnerait ça :
26: arrivée SF 27 et 28: SF - Nuit SF 29: SF - Yosemite - Nuit dans le parc Yosémite 30: Yosemite - Nuit dans le parc Yosémite 31: Yosemite- Nuit à Bishop (intermédiaire car aller directement à Death Valley me parait long) 1: Death Valley - Nuit Furnace ou Stovepipe 2: Death Valley - Vegas - nuit à Vegas 3: Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Nuit Springdale 4: Springdale - Bryce - Nuit Bryce ou Tropic 5: Bryce - Torrey - Nuit Torrey 6: Torrey - MOAB - nuit MOAB 7: MOAB - nuit MOAB 8: MOAB - Monument Valley - Nuit Monument Valley ou Maxican Hat 9: Monument Valley - Page - nuit Page 10 : Page journée Lake Powell - nuit Page 10 : Page - Grand Canyon - nuit à Tusayan 11: Grand Canyon survol Hélicoptère - Route 66 - Nuit Kingman 12: Kingman - LA - nuit à LA 13 - 14: nuits LA 15:LA - Santa Barbara - nuit LA 16: vol LA/SF départ SF (20h40)
Il te reste donc un jour à caser au choix dans les parcs où c'est rapide: Yosemite, Zion, Bryce Canyon ou Page. D'où dépend de tes préférences et des activités prévues.
Pour Moab, c'est pas possible. A moins de zapper la partie Los Angeles - Côte Pacifique, de retourner après Grand Canyon à Vegas pour prendre un vol interne pour San Francisco (prévoir 100$ par personne sur Southwest Airlines)
Bonsoir Itat,
Après avoir étudier le parcours, je pense que nous allons prendre un avion intérieur LA/SF Dans ce cas il me reste 3 jours à caser : Est-il possible dans ce cas de pousser sur MOAB, ce qui donnerait ça :
26: arrivée SF 27 et 28: SF - Nuit SF 29: SF - Yosemite - Nuit dans le parc Yosémite 30: Yosemite - Nuit dans le parc Yosémite 31: Yosemite- Nuit à Bishop (intermédiaire car aller directement à Death Valley me parait long) 1: Death Valley - Nuit Furnace ou Stovepipe 2: Death Valley - Vegas - nuit à Vegas 3: Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Nuit Springdale 4: Springdale - Bryce - Nuit Bryce ou Tropic 5: Bryce - Torrey - Nuit Torrey 6: Torrey - MOAB - nuit MOAB 7: MOAB - nuit MOAB 8: MOAB - Monument Valley - Nuit Monument Valley ou Maxican Hat 9: Monument Valley - Page - nuit Page 10 : Page journée Lake Powell - nuit Page 10 : Page - Grand Canyon - nuit à Tusayan 11: Grand Canyon survol Hélicoptère - Route 66 - Nuit Kingman 12: Kingman - LA - nuit à LA 13 - 14: nuits LA 15:LA - Santa Barbara - nuit LA 16: vol LA/SF départ SF (20h40)
Hello
Pas mal, mais il manque un jour à Moab.
Le 30: nuit Lee Vining, donc pas de nuit à Bishop nécessaire, tu gagnerais une nuit. Possible si tu ne prévois pas de grosse rando à Yosemite.
Il y a aussi la possibilité de faire Grand Canyon - LA d'une traite ou alors il faudra supprimer Santa Barbara.
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Pas mal, mais il manque un jour à Moab.
Le 30: nuit Lee Vining, donc pas de nuit à Bishop nécessaire, tu gagnerais une nuit. Possible si tu ne prévois pas de grosse rando à Yosemite.
Il y a aussi la possibilité de faire Grand Canyon - LA d'une traite ou alors il faudra supprimer Santa Barbara.
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Hello,
Merci pour cette réponse.
En fait, pour l'instant je n'ai pas trouvé d'hotel à Lee Vining. J'ai donc pris 2 nuits à Yosemite View Lodge qui est sur El Portal (j'avais également trouvé et donc pris une option sur une seule nuit (le 30) à l'intérieur du Parc à Curry Village sous une tente mais à priori il faut des sacs de couchage ...) Si je ne trouve pas sur Lee Vining, y a t-il une autre option? Idem pour Death Valley je n'ai trouvé un hotel que sur Beaty.
Merci pour ton aide précieuse car c'est le casse tête.
Merci pour cette réponse.
En fait, pour l'instant je n'ai pas trouvé d'hotel à Lee Vining. J'ai donc pris 2 nuits à Yosemite View Lodge qui est sur El Portal (j'avais également trouvé et donc pris une option sur une seule nuit (le 30) à l'intérieur du Parc à Curry Village sous une tente mais à priori il faut des sacs de couchage ...) Si je ne trouve pas sur Lee Vining, y a t-il une autre option? Idem pour Death Valley je n'ai trouvé un hotel que sur Beaty.
Merci pour ton aide précieuse car c'est le casse tête.
Tu regardes où sur Lee Vining? Il faut aller directement dur le site internet des motels puisque effectivement hotels.com, booking ou autres ne référencent pas grand chose!
Bonjour Linda,
Nous avons fait également l'été dernier une boucle SF/SF en famille. Par contre pas de Moab il faut bien faire un choix🤪
Nous avons fait SF sur 5 jours puis route1 vers Monterey Los Angelés 4jours) mes filles ont adorés (13 et 18 ) grand Canyon - Monument Valley - Bryce -juste une traversée de Zion - Valley of fire (superbe) - Las vegas - Red roc canyon- Sequoia park (magnifique)- Yosemite- retour sur SF
Tu peux voir mon carnet si tu veux Hélène
Nous avons fait également l'été dernier une boucle SF/SF en famille. Par contre pas de Moab il faut bien faire un choix🤪
Nous avons fait SF sur 5 jours puis route1 vers Monterey Los Angelés 4jours) mes filles ont adorés (13 et 18 ) grand Canyon - Monument Valley - Bryce -juste une traversée de Zion - Valley of fire (superbe) - Las vegas - Red roc canyon- Sequoia park (magnifique)- Yosemite- retour sur SF
Tu peux voir mon carnet si tu veux Hélène
boucle-san-francisco-san-francisco-25-juillet-15-aout-2013-en-famille
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6230774;#6230774
Il faut aller directement dur le site internet des motels puisque effectivement hotels.com, booking ou autres ne référencent pas grand chose!
Oh là là merci! J'avais réservé à Oakhurst et je trouvais ça finalement pas très pratique en arrivant de SF en milieu de journée : visite de la partie glacier et après wawona road à priori très tortueuse, et le lendemain re-belote, wawona road après Mariposa. Et je ne trouvais pas d'alternative car plus d'hotel à el portal sur booking.. Du coup, j'en profite pour une petite question car il me semble qu'elle pourra également intéresser Linda : que penses tu d'arriver par l'entrée Nord et de faire Tuolumne Grove of Giant Séquoias à la place de Mariposa. Le site est-il vraiment moins bien car ça fait qd même gagner du temps quand on ne passe que 1 j 1/2 à Yosémite ?
Oh là là merci! J'avais réservé à Oakhurst et je trouvais ça finalement pas très pratique en arrivant de SF en milieu de journée : visite de la partie glacier et après wawona road à priori très tortueuse, et le lendemain re-belote, wawona road après Mariposa. Et je ne trouvais pas d'alternative car plus d'hotel à el portal sur booking.. Du coup, j'en profite pour une petite question car il me semble qu'elle pourra également intéresser Linda : que penses tu d'arriver par l'entrée Nord et de faire Tuolumne Grove of Giant Séquoias à la place de Mariposa. Le site est-il vraiment moins bien car ça fait qd même gagner du temps quand on ne passe que 1 j 1/2 à Yosémite ?
Hello Laure
Le site de Tuolumne Grove est moins fréquenté que Mariposa mais il y a également moins de séquoias. 😉
Mais cela être une bonne alternative quand on a un peu moins de temps devant soi!
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Le site de Tuolumne Grove est moins fréquenté que Mariposa mais il y a également moins de séquoias. 😉
Mais cela être une bonne alternative quand on a un peu moins de temps devant soi!
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Bonjour Thibaud
Merci pour ta réponse. Je viens d'aller voir des photos du site de Tuolumne Grove sur le blog de Cendryon, il y a quand même des beaux spécimen alors je crois que l'on va s'en contenter... Bonne journée.
@ Linda : si tu es intéressée, quand tu en seras à l'étape détail des visites au jour le jour, fais moi signe, je t'enverrai ma feuille de route, ça te fera une base de départ, nous avons qqs étapes communes avec le même nombre de nuits. Bonne continuation dans ta préparation.
Merci pour ta réponse. Je viens d'aller voir des photos du site de Tuolumne Grove sur le blog de Cendryon, il y a quand même des beaux spécimen alors je crois que l'on va s'en contenter... Bonne journée.
@ Linda : si tu es intéressée, quand tu en seras à l'étape détail des visites au jour le jour, fais moi signe, je t'enverrai ma feuille de route, ça te fera une base de départ, nous avons qqs étapes communes avec le même nombre de nuits. Bonne continuation dans ta préparation.
Bonsoir Linda,
Ton circuit ressemblerait beaucoup à celui que nous avons prévu pour août prochain mais dans l'autre sens. Nous avons prévu :
J1 (dimanche 3 août) : Vol Paris (10h20) – San Francisco (15h20), prise de la voiture chez Avis, balade du côté des lacets de Lombard Street, nuit hôtel Pacific Height, (dans Pacific Height) J2 : San Francisco – Salinas, 180 km, 2h, visite d’Alcatraz (1ère de la journée), Pier 39, pier 45, Telegraph Hill et Coit Tower, Porstmouth Square Plaza et Chinatown, Cable car museum, récupération de la voiture à l'hôtel puis traversée du Golden Gate Bridge, Sausalito, récupération du matériel de camping chez des amis à Alameda, nuit au Good nite Inn à Salinas (pour couper la route vers Los Angeles) J3 : Salinas – Los Angeles, 500 km, Santa Barbara (déjeuner), Santa Monica, Venice Beach (balade), Walk of Fame et Grauman's Chinese Theater, nuit hôtel LA Brea Inn (Hollywood Boulevard) J4 : Los-Angeles, visite Universal Studios, Hollywood Hills, Beverly hills, Rodeo drive, nuit hôtel LA Brea Inn J5 : Los Angeles - Las Vegas, 440 km, 4h, nuit au Best Western Casino Royal Strip Area J6 : Las Vegas –Zion Park, 272 km, 3h, Valley of Fire (?), à Zion navette jusqu'au temple de Sinawava et faire la riverside walk et le début des Narrows, nuit au camping Watchman Campground J7 : Zion Park - Bryce Canyon, 127 km, 1h30, rando Zion Angel's landing ou Observation Point (matinée), amphitheatre (après-midi), Rodéo au Ruby's Inn (?), nuit au camping Bryce Canyon Sunset Campground J8 : Bryce Canyon , Rando Bryce (Navajo Loop Trail par exemple) + balade voiture, sunset point, nuit au camping Bryce Canyon Sunset Campground J9 : Bryce Canyon – Capitol Reef, 200 km, 2h45 (en passant par Escalante park, Devil's Garden sur la Hole In The Rock Road et Anasazi park), nuit à Torrey Thousand Lakes RV Park J10 : Capitol Reef – Arches National Park - Moab, 245 km, 2h30 (sans compter les arrêts), Fruita et Scenic Drive, Arches avec Park Avenue, Double Arch (Indiana Jones 3), Balanced Rock, Devil's Garden, nuit Camping KOA Moab J11 : Arches – Dead Horse Point – Canyonlands, Fery Furnace, Island in The Sky, nuit Camping KOA Moab J12 : Moab - Mesa Verde (205 km, 2h15), déjeuner à Monticello, dîner et courses à Cortez, nuit au camping Morefield Campground J13 : Mesa Verde - Monument Valley, 218 km, 2h40, Cliff Palace et Balcony House (matinée), nuit au camping Goulding's Monument Valley Campgroung J14 - Monument Valley - Page, 230 km, 2h30, John Ford's Point (matinée), Horseshoe Bend, nuit au Wahweap Marina RV et Campground J15 : Page, Antelope Canyon Lower et Upper Canyon (26 km, 30 min), Lac Powell, nuit au Wahweap Marina RV et Campground J16 : Page - Grand Canyon, 186 km, 2h50, Desert View, route 66 entre Seligman et Kingman, South Rim Trail, South Kaibab Trail, Mather Point, nuit dans Mather Campground J17 : Grand Canyon – Las Vegas, 445 km, 4h30, Bright Angel Point (matin), nuit à l'hôtel Excalibur J18 : Las Vegas - Death Valley (190 km, 2h30) – Bishop (266 km, 3 h), Zabriskie Point, Furnace Creek, Mesquite Flat Sand Dune, Lone Pine (visite du musée), nuit hôtel America's Best Value Inn J19 : Bishop - Bodie (155 km, 2h) – Yosemite Park (172, 2h50), Tioga Pass Entrance, Tuolumne Meadows, Balade autour de Tenaya Lake et jusqu'au point de vue d'Omlsted Point, nuit au Tuolumne Meadow Campground J20 : Yosemite, Tenaya Canyon (56 km, 1 h 30), Yosemite falls (3,6 km, 7 min), Mariposa (70 km, 1 h 10), Wawona Campground pour la nuit J21 : Mariposa - Alameda, 285 km, 3 h 40, visite de Mariposa Grove, nuit chez des amis à Alameda J22 : Journée à San Francisco J23 : San Francisco (17h20) – Paris (20h55)
Certes, c'est ambitieux mais... Si je peux t'aider à quoi que ce soit, n'hésite pas.
Ton circuit ressemblerait beaucoup à celui que nous avons prévu pour août prochain mais dans l'autre sens. Nous avons prévu :
J1 (dimanche 3 août) : Vol Paris (10h20) – San Francisco (15h20), prise de la voiture chez Avis, balade du côté des lacets de Lombard Street, nuit hôtel Pacific Height, (dans Pacific Height) J2 : San Francisco – Salinas, 180 km, 2h, visite d’Alcatraz (1ère de la journée), Pier 39, pier 45, Telegraph Hill et Coit Tower, Porstmouth Square Plaza et Chinatown, Cable car museum, récupération de la voiture à l'hôtel puis traversée du Golden Gate Bridge, Sausalito, récupération du matériel de camping chez des amis à Alameda, nuit au Good nite Inn à Salinas (pour couper la route vers Los Angeles) J3 : Salinas – Los Angeles, 500 km, Santa Barbara (déjeuner), Santa Monica, Venice Beach (balade), Walk of Fame et Grauman's Chinese Theater, nuit hôtel LA Brea Inn (Hollywood Boulevard) J4 : Los-Angeles, visite Universal Studios, Hollywood Hills, Beverly hills, Rodeo drive, nuit hôtel LA Brea Inn J5 : Los Angeles - Las Vegas, 440 km, 4h, nuit au Best Western Casino Royal Strip Area J6 : Las Vegas –Zion Park, 272 km, 3h, Valley of Fire (?), à Zion navette jusqu'au temple de Sinawava et faire la riverside walk et le début des Narrows, nuit au camping Watchman Campground J7 : Zion Park - Bryce Canyon, 127 km, 1h30, rando Zion Angel's landing ou Observation Point (matinée), amphitheatre (après-midi), Rodéo au Ruby's Inn (?), nuit au camping Bryce Canyon Sunset Campground J8 : Bryce Canyon , Rando Bryce (Navajo Loop Trail par exemple) + balade voiture, sunset point, nuit au camping Bryce Canyon Sunset Campground J9 : Bryce Canyon – Capitol Reef, 200 km, 2h45 (en passant par Escalante park, Devil's Garden sur la Hole In The Rock Road et Anasazi park), nuit à Torrey Thousand Lakes RV Park J10 : Capitol Reef – Arches National Park - Moab, 245 km, 2h30 (sans compter les arrêts), Fruita et Scenic Drive, Arches avec Park Avenue, Double Arch (Indiana Jones 3), Balanced Rock, Devil's Garden, nuit Camping KOA Moab J11 : Arches – Dead Horse Point – Canyonlands, Fery Furnace, Island in The Sky, nuit Camping KOA Moab J12 : Moab - Mesa Verde (205 km, 2h15), déjeuner à Monticello, dîner et courses à Cortez, nuit au camping Morefield Campground J13 : Mesa Verde - Monument Valley, 218 km, 2h40, Cliff Palace et Balcony House (matinée), nuit au camping Goulding's Monument Valley Campgroung J14 - Monument Valley - Page, 230 km, 2h30, John Ford's Point (matinée), Horseshoe Bend, nuit au Wahweap Marina RV et Campground J15 : Page, Antelope Canyon Lower et Upper Canyon (26 km, 30 min), Lac Powell, nuit au Wahweap Marina RV et Campground J16 : Page - Grand Canyon, 186 km, 2h50, Desert View, route 66 entre Seligman et Kingman, South Rim Trail, South Kaibab Trail, Mather Point, nuit dans Mather Campground J17 : Grand Canyon – Las Vegas, 445 km, 4h30, Bright Angel Point (matin), nuit à l'hôtel Excalibur J18 : Las Vegas - Death Valley (190 km, 2h30) – Bishop (266 km, 3 h), Zabriskie Point, Furnace Creek, Mesquite Flat Sand Dune, Lone Pine (visite du musée), nuit hôtel America's Best Value Inn J19 : Bishop - Bodie (155 km, 2h) – Yosemite Park (172, 2h50), Tioga Pass Entrance, Tuolumne Meadows, Balade autour de Tenaya Lake et jusqu'au point de vue d'Omlsted Point, nuit au Tuolumne Meadow Campground J20 : Yosemite, Tenaya Canyon (56 km, 1 h 30), Yosemite falls (3,6 km, 7 min), Mariposa (70 km, 1 h 10), Wawona Campground pour la nuit J21 : Mariposa - Alameda, 285 km, 3 h 40, visite de Mariposa Grove, nuit chez des amis à Alameda J22 : Journée à San Francisco J23 : San Francisco (17h20) – Paris (20h55)
Certes, c'est ambitieux mais... Si je peux t'aider à quoi que ce soit, n'hésite pas.
wouah!!! quel programme. En tout cas mieux avancé que le mien. Pour les hotels c'est la galère.
Une question suite au conseil d'Itah de rester 1 jour de plus à MOAB (donc 3 nuits au lieu de 2) : est-il judicieux de faire 2 nuits à MOAB et 1 nuit à Monticello pour aller à Canyonlands - The Needles par la route 211?
Hello
Il faut quand même 3 nuits à Moab et 1 nuit à Monticello si tu veux faire Canyonlands The Needles (qui nécessite de la marche pour être apprécié, ce n'est pas un parc à point de vue)
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Il faut quand même 3 nuits à Moab et 1 nuit à Monticello si tu veux faire Canyonlands The Needles (qui nécessite de la marche pour être apprécié, ce n'est pas un parc à point de vue)
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Hello
Il faut quand même 3 nuits à Moab et 1 nuit à Monticello si tu veux faire Canyonlands The Needles (qui nécessite de la marche pour être apprécié, ce n'est pas un parc à point de vue)
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Bonsoir,
Finalement je n'ai que 2 nuits à MOAB. A priori 3 solutions pour visiter Canyonlands : marche, 4x4 ou survol en avion (il parait que c'est formidable). Qu'en pensez-vous?
Il faut quand même 3 nuits à Moab et 1 nuit à Monticello si tu veux faire Canyonlands The Needles (qui nécessite de la marche pour être apprécié, ce n'est pas un parc à point de vue)
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Bonsoir,
Finalement je n'ai que 2 nuits à MOAB. A priori 3 solutions pour visiter Canyonlands : marche, 4x4 ou survol en avion (il parait que c'est formidable). Qu'en pensez-vous?
Avec seulement 2 nuits à Moab, zappe complètement The Needles. Et consacre-toi à Island In The Sky
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Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
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Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
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I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
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Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Hi everyone,
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Hello,
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
Hi there
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
Hello,
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
Dear Travelers,
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes). We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea. We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play. Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us? We don’t know the region at all.
Thanks so much!
Camille
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes). We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea. We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play. Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us? We don’t know the region at all.
Thanks so much!
Camille
Hi there,
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Hi there!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?





