Le camping sauvage est-il permis en France ou Union Européenne?
by Tuefeli
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Qustion un peu sotte, mais j'aurais aimé connaitre les reglementations relatives au camping sauvage. S'il est autorisé, quelle sont les restrictions (Parc régional ou national, réserves naturelles...)?
Bonsoir Tuefeli 🙂
Pour pouvoir te répondre tu devrais nous dire à quel pays tu penses 😉
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" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
Je pensais tout simplement à la france, ou à l'union européenne si il y a une legislation européenne...
en 2 mots : interdit sur toutes les propriétés privées (identifiées ... sauf accord du propriétaire bien sûr ...), ou gérées (ex. forêts ONF ...) - Sur les terrains publics, pareil, en principe ...
Mais, à part ça, en montagne : le "droit de bivouac" du coucher au lever du soleil est à peu près toujours reconnu, même, la plupart du temps, dans les parcs nationaux ....
J'ai toujours pratiqué en montagne ... dans certains parcs, où la gestion est un peu "tatillone" il m'a fallu parfois planter ma tente sur le terrain proche d'un refuge ...
Pour les secteurs "hors montagne" je ne pratique pas le C sauvage, sauf bivouac temporaire dans les mêmes conditions, et dans des coins vraiment tranquilles, hors de toute fréquentation ...
bonnes randos
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Dans le parc de la Vanoise le bivouac est interdit, c'est ce que j'ai cru comprendre en lisant les panneaux en limite, la raison invoquée est que le fait de se coucher au sol écrase la végétation, mais si on s'arrête à 2000 mètres à la tombée de la nuit et que l'on part au matin au lever du jour, cependant si cela a été décidé c' estqu'il y a peut-être une raison, alors il faut aller bivouaquer plus haut là où il n'y a plus de végétation? luc
de tête, c'est l'un des parcs un peu "tâtillons" dont je parlais .... j'y ai déjà planté ma tente (bivouac), mais à côté d'un refuge (s/périmètre limité et moyennant une redevance) .... voir le volet "réglementation" des sites de ces parcs ...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Bonjour,
La réglementation dans les parc nationaux est très stricte.
En matière de "bivouac", c’est surtout pour éviter que tout un chacun fasse n’importe quoi n’importe où…
Du style : " Tiens une jolie petite prairie avec des pâquerettes, on va passer la nuit ici près des marmottes !".
Et par la suite on retrouve des détritus dans les tanières, ou autres idioties du genre!
En interdisant le bivouac les risques sont limités, car la plupart des randonneurs ne s'aventurent pas en dehors des sentiers au delà de 2200/2400m.
Il m'est arrivé de bivouaquer dans la Vanoise à près de 3000m, au bord du glacier des Barmes de l'ours, parce que je voulais faire la Pointe de la Sana le lendemain matin tôt, et que le refuge de la Femma, le plus proche, est 1000m plus bas. Mêmes choses pour d'autres secteurs.
Idem pour le Mercantour, ou la réserve naturelle de Carlaveyron, face au Mont Blanc!
Je me suis toujours installé à la tombée de la nuit et par météo excellente, pour en retirer le maximum de plaisir.
Partir très tôt le matin, quitte à laisser la tente pliée et roulée dans un coin à l'abri pour faire l'ascension moins chargé, et récupérer le tout à la descente.
Dans ces conditions, à moins d'avoir une ronde d'hélico avec mirador la nuit, je ne vois pas qui peut voir quoi, et qui peut être dérangé!
Je ne veux pas donner de mauvais conseils et passer pour un rebelle… 😉
Tout cela ne se fait pas sans risque ; il faut le savoir, et en être conscient.
Comme je le dis souvent on ne doit pas être plus rassuré à 3000m et + parce qu'on a un portable dans le sac à dos.
A part çà, dans la plupart des cas, il est possible de planter sa tente à côté des refuges, moyennant une redevance. Personnellement, plutôt que d'être à coté d'un refuge, je préfère être dedans ; mais c'est un autre débat!
Jean-Claude
A part çà, dans la plupart des cas, il est possible de planter sa tente à côté des refuges, moyennant une redevance. Personnellement, plutôt que d'être à coté d'un refuge, je préfère être dedans ; mais c'est un autre débat!
Jean-Claude
En bref et pour résumer, c'est un flou complet entre la loi, l'usage et les restrictions locales...
Il n'y a aucun flou, "artistique ou pas"...
c'est interdit dans les parcs nationaux, avec des modalités qui peuvent varier d'un parc à l'autre.
Si on le fait on enfreint la loi, il faut le savoir et en assumer les conséquences.
Il n'y a aucun flou, "artistique ou pas"...
c'est interdit dans les parcs nationaux, avec des modalités qui peuvent varier d'un parc à l'autre.
Si on le fait on enfreint la loi, il faut le savoir et en assumer les conséquences.
Pas si flou : exemple parc des Ecrins : bivouac autorisé dans le parc, mais à plus d'une heure des limites du parc (si je ne me trompe pas), Vanoise : Interdit sauf à côté de certains refuges "agréés" moyennant paiement d'une redevance, et à certaines périodes de l'année... etc Et il ne faut pas confondre Bivouac (en théorie du soir au matin) et camping sauvage ou la tente reste à demeure... ça c'est quasiment interdit partout !
Pas si flou : exemple parc des Ecrins : bivouac autorisé dans le parc, mais à plus d'une heure des limites du parc (si je ne me trompe pas), Vanoise : Interdit sauf à côté de certains refuges "agréés" moyennant paiement d'une redevance, et à certaines périodes de l'année... etc Et il ne faut pas confondre Bivouac (en théorie du soir au matin) et camping sauvage ou la tente reste à demeure... ça c'est quasiment interdit partout !
"les récit se rapportant à l'Arctique sont tissés de rêves qui nous sont utiles à tous" Barry LOPEZ
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Avec une législation nationale, voir européenne, se serait quand même bien + simple!!!
En fait, hors des parc nationnaux, si un brigadier un peu borné à besoin de remplir ses quotas de PV, il peut toujours déloger les gentils promeneurs, puisque personne ne saura jamais si c'est légal ou toléré par l'usage! (cas des parcs régionnaux...)
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/la_notion_camping_sauvage_en_france_D296650/
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I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra