Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Carte d'identité périmée pour voyage à la Réunion
by Merrilyen
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Bonjour à tous,
Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Salut Marie,
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème... Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
voilà mon avis!
ciao!
Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Salut Marie,
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème... Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
voilà mon avis!
ciao!
Bonsoir,
A votre avis la compagnie aérienne cherche à vérifier quoi en demandant une carte d'identité ?
Michel
Bonjour à tous,
Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Salut Marie,
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème... Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
voilà mon avis!
ciao!
A votre avis la compagnie aérienne cherche à vérifier quoi en demandant une carte d'identité ?
Michel
Bonjour à tous,
Je pars à la Réunion dans 1 semaine et je viens de me rendre compte que la CNI de mon compagnon est périmée depuis le 31/10/16. Pensez-vous que cela posera un problème ? Avec la nouvelle disposition des +5ans ça devrait aller non? Quelqu'un a déjà voyagé avec une CNI "périmée "? Merci de vos réponses.
Salut Marie,
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème... Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
voilà mon avis!
ciao!
S'il s'agit de vérifier l'identité du passager, une CNI est valable aussi longtemps que la photo est ressemblante.
Donc aucun délai, ni 5 ans, ni 10 ans, ni 15 ans, n'a de valeur.
Michel
Michel
Merci pour vos réponses. J'espère que tu as raison Tatra parce que vue le prix du billet, on serait vraiment dégoûtés de se faire refoulé au controle.
Pourquoi vous ne les appelez pas ?
Michel
Michel
Bonjour,
la réponse du site officiel a l'air claire je trouve... 🙂
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F32303
Anne-Marie
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F32303
Anne-Marie
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Ton époux était il majeur lors de l'établissement de la CNI ?
Sinon https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F398
Sinon https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F398
On se heurte toujours à la possibilité que la compagnie peut demander une pièce d'identité en cours de validité.
Ici on est peut être sur une CNI+5, aucun souci dans ce cas.
Le problème peut être si la CNI n'était plus valide du tout. La police (la Réunion est hors Schengen) laissera passer le passager, la compagnie pourrait le refuser si ses conditions prévoient une validité.
Depuis quelques semaines l'UE a renforcé les contrôles aux frontières Schengen y compris pour les ressortissants européens.
Le problème peut être si la CNI n'était plus valide du tout. La police (la Réunion est hors Schengen) laissera passer le passager, la compagnie pourrait le refuser si ses conditions prévoient une validité.
Depuis quelques semaines l'UE a renforcé les contrôles aux frontières Schengen y compris pour les ressortissants européens.
Bonjour Dominique,
Comme preuve d'identité une CNI est valide sans limite de date tant que la photo ressemble. C'est comme preuve de nationalité qu'elle n'est valide qu'avec restriction temporelle.
Michel
Comme preuve d'identité une CNI est valide sans limite de date tant que la photo ressemble. C'est comme preuve de nationalité qu'elle n'est valide qu'avec restriction temporelle.
Michel
Ouais, mais mettre les gens devant la réalité des choses, ce n'est pas un mal. 😏
Michel
Michel
Si je prends Corsair, il est clairement indiqué :
Pour les vols Guadeloupe, Martinique et Réunion (vols directs sans escale):
Passeport individuel valide (même nom / même prénom que sur le billet) ou Carte nationale d'identité.
Ils ont bien pris soin de ne pas indiquer "valide" pour la CNI alors qu'ils le font pour le passeport. On peut donc raisonnablement penser qu'une CNI non valide puisse suffire pour se rendre dans ces trois départements.
Pour les vols Guadeloupe, Martinique et Réunion (vols directs sans escale):
Passeport individuel valide (même nom / même prénom que sur le billet) ou Carte nationale d'identité.
Ils ont bien pris soin de ne pas indiquer "valide" pour la CNI alors qu'ils le font pour le passeport. On peut donc raisonnablement penser qu'une CNI non valide puisse suffire pour se rendre dans ces trois départements.
Si on lit entre les lignes on peut penser en effet que tel est le message subliminal. 🙂
Michel
Michel
Il est demandé quand on utilise la CNI comme preuve de nationalité, pas d'identité.
Michel
Michel
Pourquoi vous dites ça ?
Ce n'est pas le sujet.
Le sujet pour moi, mais je peux me tromper, c'est l'arrêté du 5 février 2013 "relatif à la vérification de concordance documentaire à l'embarquement et modifiant l'arrêté du 18 avril 2012 relatif à la vérification de concordance entre passagers et bagages de soute", qui dit à son article 1 :
"Lors de sa présentation à l'embarquement, le passager est tenu, lorsque l'entreprise de transport aérien le lui demande, de présenter un document attestant son identité, afin que soit vérifiée la concordance entre celle-ci et l'identité mentionnée sur sa carte d'embarquement. Les mineurs de moins de treize ans accompagnés d'un adulte sont dispensés de cette obligation."
Michel
"Lors de sa présentation à l'embarquement, le passager est tenu, lorsque l'entreprise de transport aérien le lui demande, de présenter un document attestant son identité, afin que soit vérifiée la concordance entre celle-ci et l'identité mentionnée sur sa carte d'embarquement. Les mineurs de moins de treize ans accompagnés d'un adulte sont dispensés de cette obligation."
Michel
Mais qu'est-ce que vous voulez me faire dire ? 🤪 😏
Michel
Michel
Merci à tous pour vos recherches et vos réponses. Par acquis de conscience, j'ai fini par appelé Corsair, je suis tombé sur une personne qui m'a affirmé qu'il fallait que je fasse un passeport en urgence parce que si l'avion avait une panne et atterrissait en Afrique mon compagnon ne pourrait pas repartir avec une CNI "non valide ". Gros stress!!! Je vous passe les détails de la semaine quI a suivi en apprenant cela. Je rappelle donc corsair pour négocier un eventuel remboursement de nos billets et là surprise la personne au tel me dit très clairement que je ne suis pas obligé de faire un passeport que la CNI de mon compagnon sera valable tant qu'il était majeur lors de l'établissement de celle-ci et qu'elle a été faite après 2004. Je lui demande si elle est bien sûr. Elle me dit de noter son nom et son numéro de poste et qu'elle est prête à se porter garante pour nous si nous avons des problèmes à l'enregistrement. Du coup, je la sens un peu sûr d'elle quand même. Dénouement vendreDi! !!!
Tout se passera bien. 🙂
Michel
Michel
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème...
Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
A votre avis la compagnie aérienne cherche à vérifier quoi en demandant une carte d'identité ?
j'ai fini par appelé Corsair, je suis tombé sur une personne qui m'a affirmé qu'il fallait que je fasse un passeport en urgence parce que si l'avion avait une panne et atterrissait en Afrique mon compagnon ne pourrait pas repartir avec une CNI "non valide ".
Bonjour MIchel,
Du coup, c'est une question "d'une hypothétique avarie" que les compagnies aériennes demandent un document d'identité valide dans leur CGV... 🤪
Que se passe-t-il si en cas d'avarie l'avion devait se poser dans un pays (selon la logique Corsair) et qu'on est dépourvu d'un visa? (en admettant qu'on en ait besoin d'un...) ... On risque des sanctions par ce pays hôte? 🏴☠️
cordialement.
A votre avis la compagnie aérienne cherche à vérifier quoi en demandant une carte d'identité ?
j'ai fini par appelé Corsair, je suis tombé sur une personne qui m'a affirmé qu'il fallait que je fasse un passeport en urgence parce que si l'avion avait une panne et atterrissait en Afrique mon compagnon ne pourrait pas repartir avec une CNI "non valide ".
Bonjour MIchel,
Du coup, c'est une question "d'une hypothétique avarie" que les compagnies aériennes demandent un document d'identité valide dans leur CGV... 🤪
Que se passe-t-il si en cas d'avarie l'avion devait se poser dans un pays (selon la logique Corsair) et qu'on est dépourvu d'un visa? (en admettant qu'on en ait besoin d'un...) ... On risque des sanctions par ce pays hôte? 🏴☠️
cordialement.
Bonjour Fex,
Je m'étonne d'ailleurs que le visa russe valide ne soit pas exigé des passagers qui volent de l'Europe au Japon, tant les chances en cas d'incident de se poser en Sibérie sont élevées.
Michel
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème... Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
A votre avis la compagnie aérienne cherche à vérifier quoi en demandant une carte d'identité ?
j'ai fini par appelé Corsair, je suis tombé sur une personne qui m'a affirmé qu'il fallait que je fasse un passeport en urgence parce que si l'avion avait une panne et atterrissait en Afrique mon compagnon ne pourrait pas repartir avec une CNI "non valide ".
Bonjour MIchel,
Du coup, c'est une question "d'une hypothétique avarie" que les compagnies aériennes demandent un document d'identité valide dans leur CGV... 🤪
Que se passe-t-il si en cas d'avarie l'avion devait se poser dans un pays (selon la logique Corsair) et qu'on est dépourvu d'un visa? (en admettant qu'on en ait besoin d'un...) ... On risque des sanctions par ce pays hôte? 🏴☠️
cordialement.
Je m'étonne d'ailleurs que le visa russe valide ne soit pas exigé des passagers qui volent de l'Europe au Japon, tant les chances en cas d'incident de se poser en Sibérie sont élevées.
Michel
S'il y va à la nage, ça ne posera aucun problème... Par contre s'il y va en avion... P't être bien que la compagnie aérienne ne le laisse pas embarquer selon ses conditions générales de transport....
A votre avis la compagnie aérienne cherche à vérifier quoi en demandant une carte d'identité ?
j'ai fini par appelé Corsair, je suis tombé sur une personne qui m'a affirmé qu'il fallait que je fasse un passeport en urgence parce que si l'avion avait une panne et atterrissait en Afrique mon compagnon ne pourrait pas repartir avec une CNI "non valide ".
Bonjour MIchel,
Du coup, c'est une question "d'une hypothétique avarie" que les compagnies aériennes demandent un document d'identité valide dans leur CGV... 🤪
Que se passe-t-il si en cas d'avarie l'avion devait se poser dans un pays (selon la logique Corsair) et qu'on est dépourvu d'un visa? (en admettant qu'on en ait besoin d'un...) ... On risque des sanctions par ce pays hôte? 🏴☠️
cordialement.
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.






