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Centre Rouge en Australie: réserver par une agence ou voir sur place?
by MagVoyage
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous
Nous partons a deux cet été en Australie et comptons rester 5 jours dans le centre rouge
Notre agence de voyage nous propose un safari camping de 5 j 4nuits de Ayers Rocks a Alice Springs avec trajets+camping+guide+repas pour env 500€/tête
soit 100€ par jour/par pers
Est ce un bon plan ou y a til moyen de tout faire par ses propres moyens ? sachant que louer un 4*4 pour 1 journée est aux alentours de 100€
Avez vous des bons plans a nous soumettre ?
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Bonjour
ayant deja fait l'expérience du centre rouge, je te conseille vivement de passer^par une agence de voyages plutot que de louer une voiture, car tu auras à ta disposition un guide qui te montreras les coins les plus interessants, qui sauras prendre les mesures de sécurité qu'il faut en matière de camping...sans compter que c'est pas facile de conduire la-bas, vu que les distances sont énormes et tu peux rouler 300km sans croiser le moindre véhicule
"lorsqu'au crépuscule de ma vie je me retournerai, je dirai: c'est moi qui ai vécu et non un ètre factice créé par mes ennuis et mes regrets"
Salut
Pour visiter Uluru, les Olgas et King Canyon au depart d'Alice Spring, tu n'as pas besoin de 4x4.De plus je ne vois pas trop l'utilité d'un guide.
Je pense que vous pouvez vous en tirer avec 500€ pour tout les deux.Bouffe, location du vehicule, camping et droit d'entrée du park
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Chercheur d'or en Australie
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/gold_prospecting_un_froggy_chercheur_or_en_australie_D2438548/
Salut
Nous avons passé 15 jours dans le red center et en gardons un grand souvenir.
Trajet: Je confirme que pour les "grands classiques", nul besoin de 4*4. la route est bitumée tout le long entre Alice Springs, Kings canyon (et le racourci par la piste E Giles road se fait sans pb en voiture classique) et Uluru/ Kata Tjuta. Ne pas négliger les Mc Donnel Ranges (est et ouest) qui proposent des sites superbes, route bitumée.
Logement: Pas de camping à Kings Canyon et hebergement t cher. Par contre pas de pb à Uluru et Alice springs. Sache qu'il fait qd même t froid à cette période la nuit (il gelait qd nous y étions) et que les backpacker à Alice Springs sont t bon marché (40$/nuit en chambre double).
Guide: Le sites sont très facile à trouver, tu trouves de t bons doc sur les sites internet des parcs nationaux du territoir du nord. Si tu dois en choisir un: un guide abo à Uluru pour te parler du dreamtime
Repas: Tu trouvera toujours un snack ou un superette sauf à Kings canyon
Pb de sécurité: là c'est simple: aucun (sauf lutter contre le froid la nuit et au petit matin)
Bref, tu peux tout gérer seule et à part les transports, ça ne te coûteras pas grand chose.
N'hesite pas si tu veux plus d'infos
Trajet: Je confirme que pour les "grands classiques", nul besoin de 4*4. la route est bitumée tout le long entre Alice Springs, Kings canyon (et le racourci par la piste E Giles road se fait sans pb en voiture classique) et Uluru/ Kata Tjuta. Ne pas négliger les Mc Donnel Ranges (est et ouest) qui proposent des sites superbes, route bitumée.
Logement: Pas de camping à Kings Canyon et hebergement t cher. Par contre pas de pb à Uluru et Alice springs. Sache qu'il fait qd même t froid à cette période la nuit (il gelait qd nous y étions) et que les backpacker à Alice Springs sont t bon marché (40$/nuit en chambre double).
Guide: Le sites sont très facile à trouver, tu trouves de t bons doc sur les sites internet des parcs nationaux du territoir du nord. Si tu dois en choisir un: un guide abo à Uluru pour te parler du dreamtime
Repas: Tu trouvera toujours un snack ou un superette sauf à Kings canyon
Pb de sécurité: là c'est simple: aucun (sauf lutter contre le froid la nuit et au petit matin)
Bref, tu peux tout gérer seule et à part les transports, ça ne te coûteras pas grand chose.
N'hesite pas si tu veux plus d'infos
"Logement: Pas de camping à Kings Canyon et hebergement t cher. Par contre pas de pb à Uluru et Alice springs. Sache qu'il fait qd même t froid à cette période la nuit (il gelait qd nous y étions) et que les backpacker à Alice Springs sont t bon marché (40$/nuit en chambre double). "
Il y a un camping a un ou deux km du Canyon.
(et le racourci par la piste E Giles road se fait sans pb en voiture classique)
Se mefier quand meme.Theoriquement il faut une autorisation pour l'emprunter et en cas de pepin avec le vehicule tu risques d'avoir pas mal d'emmerdes avec le locatier.
Il y a un camping a un ou deux km du Canyon.
(et le racourci par la piste E Giles road se fait sans pb en voiture classique)
Se mefier quand meme.Theoriquement il faut une autorisation pour l'emprunter et en cas de pepin avec le vehicule tu risques d'avoir pas mal d'emmerdes avec le locatier.
Chercheur d'or en Australie
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/gold_prospecting_un_froggy_chercheur_or_en_australie_D2438548/
En 2004, nous sommes passés par une agence (réservation sur internet), par fainéantise. C'était effectivement assez cher, mais très bien organisé et bonne ambiance dans le groupe. Maintenant, si tu as du temps, au moins 5 ou 6 jours sur place, je pense que tu peux tout organiser toi-même, mais à partir de Alice Spring pour la location de la voiture et tout le ravitaillement. A Ayers Rocks, il n'y a quasi rien et tout est très cher. Les routes sont excellentes, si tu ne prends pas les pistes (qui permettent néanmoins les raccourcis, mais nécessitent un 4x4). Les sentiers de randonnée sont balisés. A King Canyon, notre camping de Creek station se situait à environ 20 km. Les Mc Donnell seraient aussi à voir.
La vie est un défi quotidien
A l'époque, non, nous n'avons rien payé à l'avance sur internet, tout sur place, à la fin du circuit, sans aucune avance. Nom de l'agence : Sahara Outback tours http://www.ozhorizons.com.au/nt/alice/sahara/st.htm
La vie est un défi quotidien
Merci pour l'info
C'est le même prix que ce que nous propose notre agence et c'est generalement ce que je constate
J'ai vu que vous comptiez partir en Inde cet été, si vous avez des questions je pourrais peut être vous aider
Bon Voyage
Mag aime les voyages et voudrait en faire davantage
Pour l'Inde, c'est déjà fait, nous y étions en février, mais merci pour ta proposition.
Pour l'Australie, en passant par internet, nous avions aussi constaté que c'était pratiquement le même prix que l'agence la moins chère en France. Par contre, nous avions réservé aussi à Sahara Tours une nuit en backpackers à Alice Spring, au retour du circuit, en attendant un vol. Cette nuit nous finalement a été offerte, et là nous étions gagnants, d'autant plus que nous étions dans un très bel hôtel.
Bon voyage !
Pour l'Australie, en passant par internet, nous avions aussi constaté que c'était pratiquement le même prix que l'agence la moins chère en France. Par contre, nous avions réservé aussi à Sahara Tours une nuit en backpackers à Alice Spring, au retour du circuit, en attendant un vol. Cette nuit nous finalement a été offerte, et là nous étions gagnants, d'autant plus que nous étions dans un très bel hôtel.
Bon voyage !
La vie est un défi quotidien
Salut,
cet hivers (février) quand je suis allé dans le centre rouge de l'Australie, je suis parti de Melbourne et ai attérri à Alice Spring de là j'ai pris une nuit en Back Paker pour 15 $ (10 euros) et ai pris un tour de 3 jours 2 nuit en pension complète pour la modique somme de 295 $ (soit 180 euros) avec les doirt d'entré à Uluru (park feas). Honêtement je ne pense pas que ca valle le cout de payer plus étant donné que le voyage ne dépend pas de l'agence mais du groupe qu'il y a. En effet, au back packer ou j'ai passé deux nuit (avant le départ et la nuit du retour) j'ai pu discuter avec les autres personnes qui étaient dans dans la chambre et ceux qui avait fait le même tour que moi mais par une autre agence et ayant payé plus cher que mois (du simple au double presque) il n'y avait aucune différence. A la période à la quelle ou j'y suis allé (février) la clim du car (21 places max) est obligatoire... Et c'est vrai que la nuit il fait froi :s bah oui ^^ en journée il doit faire 45 à l'ombre (sans ombre) et le matin il ne fait que 27° ca fait une sacrée différence quand meme lol..... Trève de plaisenterie, le fait de passer par une agence est un plus car 1 les distances sont longues (conduire est fatigan quand même. Et de plus le guide raconte pas mal d'anegotes sympa (en anglais certe).
le tour opérator était : http://www.therocktour.com.au/
Bon voyage ! ! !
cet hivers (février) quand je suis allé dans le centre rouge de l'Australie, je suis parti de Melbourne et ai attérri à Alice Spring de là j'ai pris une nuit en Back Paker pour 15 $ (10 euros) et ai pris un tour de 3 jours 2 nuit en pension complète pour la modique somme de 295 $ (soit 180 euros) avec les doirt d'entré à Uluru (park feas). Honêtement je ne pense pas que ca valle le cout de payer plus étant donné que le voyage ne dépend pas de l'agence mais du groupe qu'il y a. En effet, au back packer ou j'ai passé deux nuit (avant le départ et la nuit du retour) j'ai pu discuter avec les autres personnes qui étaient dans dans la chambre et ceux qui avait fait le même tour que moi mais par une autre agence et ayant payé plus cher que mois (du simple au double presque) il n'y avait aucune différence. A la période à la quelle ou j'y suis allé (février) la clim du car (21 places max) est obligatoire... Et c'est vrai que la nuit il fait froi :s bah oui ^^ en journée il doit faire 45 à l'ombre (sans ombre) et le matin il ne fait que 27° ca fait une sacrée différence quand meme lol..... Trève de plaisenterie, le fait de passer par une agence est un plus car 1 les distances sont longues (conduire est fatigan quand même. Et de plus le guide raconte pas mal d'anegotes sympa (en anglais certe).
le tour opérator était : http://www.therocktour.com.au/
Bon voyage ! ! !
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I’m planning a solo trip from April 16th to June 2nd!
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Maupiti - 4 nights
Raiatea - 3 nights (including a day trip to Tahaa)
Bora Bora - 3 nights
Rangiroa - 4 nights (could do 3)
Tikehau - 2 nights (could do 3)
Fakarava - 3 nights
For activities, I’m mostly interested in discovering the islands, hiking, and observing wildlife.
I’m not a diver, but I plan to do a beginner’s dive once I’m there. I love snorkeling, though, and I’m wondering if I’m spending too much time in the Tuamotus, which are famous for diving from what I’ve seen.
For travel between the islands, I’ve already looked into the Bora Tuamotu Max pass, which seems like the best option, but I’d love advice on replacing it with one or more ferries.
What do you think? I’m struggling to finalize my itinerary.
Can’t wait to read your replies!
Thanks!!
Celia
We’ll be in Adelaide from February 24th to March 4th and we’d like to spend 3 days and 2 nights on Kangaroo Island.
Any recommendations?
We always travel with simple accommodations
Hi everyone, we're heading to Australia next month. We have 7 days to go from Adelaide to Melbourne via the Great Ocean Road. Should we visit Kangaroo Island or not? We can't decide! Thanks for your advice.
We really want to see kangaroos and koalas in their natural habitat.
We really want to see kangaroos and koalas in their natural habitat.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to NZ at the end of January.
It’s peak season—do you think it’s necessary to book activities in advance (like a cruise to Milford Sound), or is it not essential?
Thanks
We’ll be in New Zealand starting March 15th. We’re considering renting a car from Christchurch to Auckland. We’ve read that a lot of ferries have been canceled—is that true? Would it be better to rent one car in the South Island and another in the North Island? Thanks, and happy New Year!
Hi,
When I hear our French friends talk about them, they’re the most beautiful islands in the world.
For those of you who’ve traveled extensively, is that really the case?
Are the prices for accommodation, even basic ones, justified? Isn’t a room in a family-run guesthouse at 150/200 € a bit much?
Are there other islands in Polynesia (non-French) that are just as "paradise-like" but more affordable?
I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Hi everyone,
A quick introduction. I'm 27, I live in Picardy, and I'm getting married in 2017. We'd like to spend our honeymoon in French Polynesia for 3 weeks.
I'm open to all kinds of advice!!!
I think we'll use a travel agency because our work schedules don't leave us much time to organize the trip... Unless I change my mind! ;-)
But we don’t want our trip to turn into tourist clichés—we really don’t like that. That said, we *do* want to see those postcard-perfect beaches and landscapes!
We don’t dive, but I think we’ll try a beginner’s dive, and maybe even get our Level 1 certification, depending on how it goes (I read some comments about it on this forum).
Anyway, I’m looking for any information and internet links to make this trip a success.
This is THE trip of a lifetime, and it has to be perfect!
Thanks for your help!
I’m also checking out the different threads about Polynesia on this forum ;-)
Hi everyone,
What great news to read that Voyage Forum is back up and running—I’m so happy! 🙂 I need some advice for a trip we’re planning in 2025: New Caledonia and Australia.
We’ll arrive in Australia on September 1, 2025, and the plan is to spend 2 nights in Melbourne to explore the city, then rent a car to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, where we’ll arrive on September 12. Unfortunately, we won’t have time for the Great Ocean Road
I’ve checked several blogs for this route and here’s the itinerary I’ve put together:
9/4: Melbourne to Philip Island (140 km) – 1 night 9/5: Philip Island to Wilsons Promontory National Park – 2 nights 9/7: Raymond Island (free ferry to cross a 200 m sea channel) – Lakes Entrance – 1 night 9/8: Drive to Narooma (stop at Quarry Beach) – 1 night at "Bodalla Park Forest Rest Area" 9/9: Batemans Bay – Pebbly Beach – Dolphin Point – Jervis Bay – 1 night (to be found) 9/10: Jervis Bay and surroundings – 1 night at Bendeela Picnic Area 9/11: Blue Mountains National Park (1 hour from Sydney) – 1 night (to be found) 9/12: Arrival in Sydney
I know we won’t be able to see everything, and this 9-day route is just a starting point. The goal is to avoid rushing—if we see a place we like, we’ll stop, even if it means seeing less. A vacation where we don’t watch the clock too much! 🙂 Does this route (a mix of several blogs where not all stops are noted) seem realistic or too ambitious? Are there certain spots that are more worth prioritizing over the ones I’ve listed? For example, in one of the blogs I read, travelers skipped Blue Mountains National Park because they chose another site (which I’ve forgotten 😎).
For accommodation, we’ll likely be camping (free or paid), so if you have any suggestions, I’d love to hear them! 😎
Our arrival in Sydney on September 12 depends on my hope to participate in the marathon on September 15, 2025. After that, we’ll leave Sydney on September 17 for Ayers Rock.
Thanks in advance for your tips and ideas—it’s always tricky to plan a route from a distance when time is limited.
And long live this site, which I’ve missed so much since 2020! 😎🙂
We’ll arrive in Australia on September 1, 2025, and the plan is to spend 2 nights in Melbourne to explore the city, then rent a car to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, where we’ll arrive on September 12. Unfortunately, we won’t have time for the Great Ocean Road
I’ve checked several blogs for this route and here’s the itinerary I’ve put together:
9/4: Melbourne to Philip Island (140 km) – 1 night 9/5: Philip Island to Wilsons Promontory National Park – 2 nights 9/7: Raymond Island (free ferry to cross a 200 m sea channel) – Lakes Entrance – 1 night 9/8: Drive to Narooma (stop at Quarry Beach) – 1 night at "Bodalla Park Forest Rest Area" 9/9: Batemans Bay – Pebbly Beach – Dolphin Point – Jervis Bay – 1 night (to be found) 9/10: Jervis Bay and surroundings – 1 night at Bendeela Picnic Area 9/11: Blue Mountains National Park (1 hour from Sydney) – 1 night (to be found) 9/12: Arrival in Sydney
I know we won’t be able to see everything, and this 9-day route is just a starting point. The goal is to avoid rushing—if we see a place we like, we’ll stop, even if it means seeing less. A vacation where we don’t watch the clock too much! 🙂 Does this route (a mix of several blogs where not all stops are noted) seem realistic or too ambitious? Are there certain spots that are more worth prioritizing over the ones I’ve listed? For example, in one of the blogs I read, travelers skipped Blue Mountains National Park because they chose another site (which I’ve forgotten 😎).
For accommodation, we’ll likely be camping (free or paid), so if you have any suggestions, I’d love to hear them! 😎
Our arrival in Sydney on September 12 depends on my hope to participate in the marathon on September 15, 2025. After that, we’ll leave Sydney on September 17 for Ayers Rock.
Thanks in advance for your tips and ideas—it’s always tricky to plan a route from a distance when time is limited.
And long live this site, which I’ve missed so much since 2020! 😎🙂





