Que faire entre le Tibet et Pékin, voyage en train?
by MarcCoudel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous,
Apres pas mal de galeres (pas possible d'avoir un visa chinois au chili, changement de programme pour le Nepal ou je suis maintenant et d'ou je comptais repartir par le sud, mais le visa pakistanais n'est plus obtensible rapidement, je me replie a nouveau sur la Chine et le Tibet, ou je devais partir aujourd'hui, rate les Chinois ont annule le tour... ), je devrais enfin pouvoir entrer au Tibet pour ensuite enchainer sur trois semaines en Chine, dont quelques jours a Pekin d'ou je compte prendre le transmongolien pour Ulan Batoor.
Du Tibet, je compte partir sur Zining, mais apres c'est l'inconnue totale. J'acheterais bien un guide, mais l'agence dit de ne pas en emmener au Tibet. Du coup je suis en recherche de conseils sur ou aller apres, et quel temps y passer (je suis en general en mode voyage rapide, surtout avec aussi peu de temps dans un aussi grand pays). Je pensais peut etre a Chengdu et les pandas, une descente sur les trois gorges, Shanghai (il fait peut etre chaud, et je sais pas si j'ai envie de passer beaucoup de temps dans des grandes villes a part Pekin). Plutot en mode tourisme nature, culture aussi autant que possible, je suis ouvert a un peu a toutes possibilites (je cherche vraiment des conseils plus qu'autre chose). Une autre petite question, est ce que je pourrai acheter mon billet pour Ulan Batoor dans une gare quelconque une fois en Chine, ou il faudra que je reserve ca sur place? Et pour les billets internes, il vaut mieux les prendre en avance?
Merci d'avance!
marc
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En fait j'ai fait des recherches, mais il y a BEAUCOUP d'infos sur la Chine et j'arrive pas a grand chose par mots cles, et en plus depuis le Nepal je suis un peu limite niveau connexions internet pour filtrer tout ca... Je vais voir ce que j'arrive a trouver un peu plus en detail et je suppose que je trouverai peut etre un guide de voyage une fois sorti du Tibet.
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je suppose que je trouverai peut etre un guide de voyage une fois sorti du Tibet.
Bonjour,
Autant te mettre en garde, tu ne trouveras pas sur place le Lonely Planet Chine (car Taiwan y apparait comme un pays indépendant). Si tu le trouves au Népal, camoufle-le, car il est confisqué à certaines fontières terrestres du sud-ouest de la Chine. Quand on arrive en avion, il n'y a pas de problème, une fois dans le pays non plus.
Bonjour,
Autant te mettre en garde, tu ne trouveras pas sur place le Lonely Planet Chine (car Taiwan y apparait comme un pays indépendant). Si tu le trouves au Népal, camoufle-le, car il est confisqué à certaines fontières terrestres du sud-ouest de la Chine. Quand on arrive en avion, il n'y a pas de problème, une fois dans le pays non plus.
J'ai comme l'impression que cette confiscation du LP est une rumeur qui a la vie dure.
Il devait s'agir de douaniers au poste frontière de Hékou-Lao Cai (Chine-Vietnam
Je n'en ai jamais entendu parler par d'autres voyageurs
Personnellement je suis entré en Chine par voie terrestre
- le 29 Novembre 2010 au poste frontière de Sha Tau Kok au Nord-Est de Hongkong en route vers Shantou
- le 2 Mars 2009 au poste frontière du port de Gaoming en venant par turbo-jet depuis Hong Kong
- le 12 Décembre 2008 au poste frontière de Youyi Guan-Dong Dang en venant de Hanoi
- le 11 Novembre 2008 au poste frontière du port de ?? (me souvient pas du nom) en venant par turbo-jet depuis Hong Kong
... et jamais je n'ai eu de problème avec mon guide de voyage Lonely Planet
On ne m'a jamais rien demandé.
Pour plus de "sécurité" faite des photocopies des pages qui serviront durant le voyage. Ce sera toujours ça de gagner au niveau du poids 😎
Il devait s'agir de douaniers au poste frontière de Hékou-Lao Cai (Chine-Vietnam
Je n'en ai jamais entendu parler par d'autres voyageurs
Personnellement je suis entré en Chine par voie terrestre
- le 29 Novembre 2010 au poste frontière de Sha Tau Kok au Nord-Est de Hongkong en route vers Shantou
- le 2 Mars 2009 au poste frontière du port de Gaoming en venant par turbo-jet depuis Hong Kong
- le 12 Décembre 2008 au poste frontière de Youyi Guan-Dong Dang en venant de Hanoi
- le 11 Novembre 2008 au poste frontière du port de ?? (me souvient pas du nom) en venant par turbo-jet depuis Hong Kong
... et jamais je n'ai eu de problème avec mon guide de voyage Lonely Planet
On ne m'a jamais rien demandé.
Pour plus de "sécurité" faite des photocopies des pages qui serviront durant le voyage. Ce sera toujours ça de gagner au niveau du poids 😎
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
J'ai comme l'impression que cette confiscation du LP est une rumeur qui a la vie dure.
Mon édition du LP China Southwest mentionne ce problème dans un encadré, donc je pense qu'il s'agit de faits réels. Il peut s'être agi de l'initiative locale d'un douanier : s'il a ciblé systématiquement les voyageurs occidentaux, l'information s'est évidemment répandue et son authenticitée recoupée. Le temps qu'il se fasse remettre à sa place par sa hiérarchie, la rumeur était installée.
Dans le même ordre d'idées, récemment, un responsable chinois s'est fait remonter les bretelles publiquement pour avoir fait un esclandre sur le thème "Taiwan fait partie de la Chine" dans un festival culturel à l'étranger.
Mon édition du LP China Southwest mentionne ce problème dans un encadré, donc je pense qu'il s'agit de faits réels. Il peut s'être agi de l'initiative locale d'un douanier : s'il a ciblé systématiquement les voyageurs occidentaux, l'information s'est évidemment répandue et son authenticitée recoupée. Le temps qu'il se fasse remettre à sa place par sa hiérarchie, la rumeur était installée.
Dans le même ordre d'idées, récemment, un responsable chinois s'est fait remonter les bretelles publiquement pour avoir fait un esclandre sur le thème "Taiwan fait partie de la Chine" dans un festival culturel à l'étranger.
OK, merci pour les infos. Toujours a Kathmandou, mon depart a ete refuse pour aujourd'hui, mais j'ai le permis tibet pour demain et j'attends le visa Chine, qui devrait tomber dans l'apres midi (jour d'ambassade fermee, donc faut payer 40$ de plus, entre le tour prive plutot que normal, l'extension de visa cote Nepal et cote Chinois, le tour va me couter 300 $ de plus que si j'etais parti samedi comme prevu, ca commence a faire mal...). Il sera valide que jusqu'au 8, donc je vais directement sur Changdu pour pouvoir le faire renouveller. Ils me disent que ca ne devrait pas poser de probleme, c'est veridique ou je ferais mieux de partir sur Pekin pour pas avoir a payer un vol sous deux jours pour sortir rapidement de la Chine?
Je verrai si je trouve un lonely avant de partir, sinon je me debrouillerai comme je peux.
A+
marc
Il sera valide que jusqu'au 8, donc je vais directement sur Changdu pour pouvoir le faire renouveller. Ils me disent que ca ne devrait pas poser de probleme, c'est veridique ou je ferais mieux de partir sur Pekin pour pas avoir a payer un vol sous deux jours pour sortir rapidement de la Chine?
Je me souviens avoir lu que les prolongations de visa étaient particulièrement difficiles à obtenir à Beijing (preuve de ressources, billets d'avion, je ne sais plus quoi encore). Rien de tel à Chengdu. Je fournis cette information avec grande prudence, car c'est un domaine où les règles changent du jour au lendemain et sont appliquées de manière différente dans le pays.
Si tu dois quitter le territoire chinois en urgence au départ de Chengdu, tu peux prendre un vol Chengdu - Shenzhen, ou Chengdu - Canton (= Guangzhou), et prendre de là e bus ou le train vers Hong-Kong. Si tu es près de tes sous, ces vols intérieurs sont en généralement moins cher qu'un Chengdu - Hong Kong qui est "un peu" international. Entre ces trois lignes, tu es quasiment certain de trouver de la place au dernier moment. Et de Hong-Kong, tu peux aller où tu veux, voire demander un nouveau visa chinois (4 jours de délai, rien que pour embêter les Français, car le visa est daté du lendemain du dépôt de la demande, d'après des témoignages récents).
Je verrai si je trouve un lonely avant de partir, sinon je me debrouillerai comme je peux.
Je n'ai pas dit non plus qu'on ne trouve aucun guide Chine en anglais en Chine. Mais le LP, je suis certain que non. Je me souviens être tombé sur une librairie étrangère dans le centre de Chengdu, mais je ne sais plus où. Un hôtel pourrait te renseigner au besoin.
Je me souviens avoir lu que les prolongations de visa étaient particulièrement difficiles à obtenir à Beijing (preuve de ressources, billets d'avion, je ne sais plus quoi encore). Rien de tel à Chengdu. Je fournis cette information avec grande prudence, car c'est un domaine où les règles changent du jour au lendemain et sont appliquées de manière différente dans le pays.
Si tu dois quitter le territoire chinois en urgence au départ de Chengdu, tu peux prendre un vol Chengdu - Shenzhen, ou Chengdu - Canton (= Guangzhou), et prendre de là e bus ou le train vers Hong-Kong. Si tu es près de tes sous, ces vols intérieurs sont en généralement moins cher qu'un Chengdu - Hong Kong qui est "un peu" international. Entre ces trois lignes, tu es quasiment certain de trouver de la place au dernier moment. Et de Hong-Kong, tu peux aller où tu veux, voire demander un nouveau visa chinois (4 jours de délai, rien que pour embêter les Français, car le visa est daté du lendemain du dépôt de la demande, d'après des témoignages récents).
Je verrai si je trouve un lonely avant de partir, sinon je me debrouillerai comme je peux.
Je n'ai pas dit non plus qu'on ne trouve aucun guide Chine en anglais en Chine. Mais le LP, je suis certain que non. Je me souviens être tombé sur une librairie étrangère dans le centre de Chengdu, mais je ne sais plus où. Un hôtel pourrait te renseigner au besoin.
Je n'ai pas dit non plus qu'on ne trouve aucun guide Chine en anglais en Chine. Mais le LP, je suis certain que non.
Désolé de devoir te contredire à nouveau 🤪
J'ai acheté mon guide China's Southwest chez Mandarin Book dans Xinhua Jie à Lijiang. J'avais "perdu" celui avec lequel j'étais entré en Chine.
Je pense que pour ce qui concerne la Chine - mais aussi bien d'autres pays - il vaut mieux ne pas être trop catégorique 😉
Donc tout peut être envisagé.
On peut quelquefois trouver des livres ou des guides de seconde main dans des guest houses ou des bars; là où certains voyageurs les ont laissés pour ne pas s'encombrer inutilement.
J'ai moi-même laissé le roman La montagne de l'âme de Gao Xinjian dans un café de Chengdu
Cordialement, malgré tout 😉
Désolé de devoir te contredire à nouveau 🤪
J'ai acheté mon guide China's Southwest chez Mandarin Book dans Xinhua Jie à Lijiang. J'avais "perdu" celui avec lequel j'étais entré en Chine.
Je pense que pour ce qui concerne la Chine - mais aussi bien d'autres pays - il vaut mieux ne pas être trop catégorique 😉
Donc tout peut être envisagé.
On peut quelquefois trouver des livres ou des guides de seconde main dans des guest houses ou des bars; là où certains voyageurs les ont laissés pour ne pas s'encombrer inutilement.
J'ai moi-même laissé le roman La montagne de l'âme de Gao Xinjian dans un café de Chengdu
Cordialement, malgré tout 😉
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Je n'ai pas dit non plus qu'on ne trouve aucun guide Chine en anglais en Chine. Mais le LP, je suis certain que non.
Désolé de devoir te contredire à nouveau 🤪
J'ai acheté mon guide China's Southwest chez Mandarin Book dans Xinhua Jie à Lijiang. J'avais "perdu" celui avec lequel j'étais entré en Chine.
Je pense que pour ce qui concerne la Chine - mais aussi bien d'autres pays - il vaut mieux ne pas être trop catégorique 😉
Donc tout peut être envisagé.
On peut quelquefois trouver des livres ou des guides de seconde main dans des guest houses ou des bars; là où certains voyageurs les ont laissés pour ne pas s'encombrer inutilement.
J'ai moi-même laissé le roman La montagne de l'âme de Gao Xinjian dans un café de Chengdu
Cordialement, malgré tout 😉
C'est vrai que généraliser à toute la Chine mon expérience à Chengdu et à Beijing (les deux seules villes où je l'ai vraiment cherché), c'est risqué. Et quand on prend un risque, on peut se tromper. Sans parler effectivement du marché de l'occasion. Dont acte !
Cordialement, avec tout ! 🙂
Désolé de devoir te contredire à nouveau 🤪
J'ai acheté mon guide China's Southwest chez Mandarin Book dans Xinhua Jie à Lijiang. J'avais "perdu" celui avec lequel j'étais entré en Chine.
Je pense que pour ce qui concerne la Chine - mais aussi bien d'autres pays - il vaut mieux ne pas être trop catégorique 😉
Donc tout peut être envisagé.
On peut quelquefois trouver des livres ou des guides de seconde main dans des guest houses ou des bars; là où certains voyageurs les ont laissés pour ne pas s'encombrer inutilement.
J'ai moi-même laissé le roman La montagne de l'âme de Gao Xinjian dans un café de Chengdu
Cordialement, malgré tout 😉
C'est vrai que généraliser à toute la Chine mon expérience à Chengdu et à Beijing (les deux seules villes où je l'ai vraiment cherché), c'est risqué. Et quand on prend un risque, on peut se tromper. Sans parler effectivement du marché de l'occasion. Dont acte !
Cordialement, avec tout ! 🙂
Impossible de faire etendre mon visa, c'est un visa groupe et je suis le seul dessus mais ils ne veulent rien savoir... Un peu blase, si les mecs a KTM m'avaient dit ca, je serais parti sur Pekin pour pouvoir enchainer vite sur le Transmongolien si necessaire.
Je bouge, pas trop le temps de reflechir j'ai un trian pour pekin ce soir.
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marc
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We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74