Choix d'un vélo de randonnée au très long cours (Irlande / Écosse / Scandinavie)
by Joukko
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'ai décidé de me lancer dans la grande randonnée à vélo. D'abord l'Irlande, puis sans doute l'Ecosse avant la Scandinavie. La lecture des forums permet de dégager 2 vélos, le Tx-400, ou le cyclo-randonnée. Le système Rohloff est tentant. Pourriez-vous m'apporter vos lumières et vos expériences actuelles sur cette épineuse question du choix. Merci d'avance.
Joukko
bonjour
les deux sont tres bons
rohloff ?? je ne suis pas un specialiste mais jy pense
sur le forum il y as des sacochards equipès avec , , , , tu auras des renseignements
bonne preparation
a bientot
les deux sont tres bons
rohloff ?? je ne suis pas un specialiste mais jy pense
sur le forum il y as des sacochards equipès avec , , , , tu auras des renseignements
bonne preparation
a bientot
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
Salut !
J'ai démarré il y a deux mois avec un fahrrad manufaktur tx400 et c'est que du bonheur. 2000 km parcourus, sans le moindre soucis. Il passe partout, vraiment. C'est du robuste.
Très plaisant pour rouler en ville sans sacoche également.
Pas de rohloff chez moi et je n'en verrai pas l'intérêt, shimano deore ca roule très bien.
Mon vélo est équipé de frein v-tech ce qui me facilitera la vie lorsqu'il faudra passer en mode mécano.
Je ne peux pas comparer avec un autre vélo mais celui la me convient très bien, j'ai pleine confiance en lui pour la suite de mes aventures :)
A Caen, t'as le boss de vélo station qui s'y connait bien en moyeux à vitesses intégrées ;)
D'ailleurs c'est lui qui m'a dissuadé de mettre un Rolhoff sur mon pliant ... j'ai trouvé ça super honnête vu la quantité de fric qu'il aurait pu se faire dessus ! Ce sera donc un Alfine 11, plus polyvalent d'après lui et aussi bien moins cher ...
D'ailleurs c'est lui qui m'a dissuadé de mettre un Rolhoff sur mon pliant ... j'ai trouvé ça super honnête vu la quantité de fric qu'il aurait pu se faire dessus ! Ce sera donc un Alfine 11, plus polyvalent d'après lui et aussi bien moins cher ...
You own a car, not the road !
J'hésite aussi entre ces 2 vélos... Cependant, je viens de me rendre sur le site de Cyclable, et j'ai remarqué que le TX 400 en transmission Shimano n'existe plus qu'avec un cadre trapèze, le cadre Diamant étant avec le moyeu Rohloff ! C'est sympa, mais c'est pas vraiment le même tarif !!! 😮
Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait des infos à ce sujet ! 😛
Merci d'avance !
Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait des infos à ce sujet ! 😛
Merci d'avance !
Laurent.
bonjour
renseignes toi sur ce site http://www.xxcycle.fr/velo-cyclotourisme-trekking, fr.php
tu demandes laurent
a bientot
bonne pioche
renseignes toi sur ce site http://www.xxcycle.fr/velo-cyclotourisme-trekking, fr.php
tu demandes laurent
a bientot
bonne pioche
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
re
risque en occas j en ai deja vu en superbe etat , ,, ,, d ici le primptems tu as le temps de voir venir
https://www.troc-velo.com/Annonce-Velo-10880-30.htm
il y as un patria d occas ; super velo
a suivre
risque en occas j en ai deja vu en superbe etat , ,, ,, d ici le primptems tu as le temps de voir venir
https://www.troc-velo.com/Annonce-Velo-10880-30.htm
il y as un patria d occas ; super velo
a suivre
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
Oui, c'est pas pour de suite de toute façon, je vais quand même me renseigner sur cette histoire de cadre !
J'ai déjà essayé le TX 400 chez Cyclable à Colomiers il y a plusieurs mois, bon, c'était en jean's et en baskets sur quelques centaines de mètres, mais ça a l'air d'être du bon matos !
Laurent.
re
perso j en suis super content , , le patria me plait bien aussi mais budget au dessus
bonne prepa et tiens moi au courant
a bientot
perso j en suis super content , , le patria me plait bien aussi mais budget au dessus
bonne prepa et tiens moi au courant
a bientot
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
re et re
regardes https://www.troc-velo.com/velo-route-randonneuse-trek-920-disc-1-1-1703345.htm
pas mal ;
regardes https://www.troc-velo.com/velo-route-randonneuse-trek-920-disc-1-1-1703345.htm
pas mal ;
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
c'est lui qui m'a dissuadé de mettre un Rolhoff sur mon pliant (...) Ce sera donc un Alfine 11, plus polyvalent d'après lui et aussi bien moins cher ...
bien moins cher, ça, c'est clair ! Mais "plus polyvalent", je ne comprends pas bien ? La gamme de développements du Shimano Alfine est moins étendue, quand même.
Enfin, je ne sais pas à quelle saison l'auteur de ce fil de discussion envisage de rouler en Scandinavie, mais en hiver chez moi, quand la température descend occasionnellement en-dessous de -10°C la nuit, mon Shimano Nexus est grippé au petit matin (mon vélo dort sous abri mais dehors, dans l'arrière cour de mon immeuble). Avec un Rohloff sur mon vélo de voyage, j'ai déjà roulé par -30°C et les vitesses passaient encore bien.
Maintenant, pour de la rando même sur longue distance en Europe, et même au-delà, un dérailleur classique peut très bien faire l'affaire. J'avais fait le choix d'un Rohloff uniquement parce que je savais que j'allais passer du temps dans des pays où on ne trouve quasiment pas de pièces de rechange (même Shimano Deore) et où j'allais alterner des tronçons à vélo, et en bus ou taxi collectif (le dérailleurs est très exposé aux chocs quand le vélo est transporté dans un coffre ou sur une galerie de toit)
bien moins cher, ça, c'est clair ! Mais "plus polyvalent", je ne comprends pas bien ? La gamme de développements du Shimano Alfine est moins étendue, quand même.
Enfin, je ne sais pas à quelle saison l'auteur de ce fil de discussion envisage de rouler en Scandinavie, mais en hiver chez moi, quand la température descend occasionnellement en-dessous de -10°C la nuit, mon Shimano Nexus est grippé au petit matin (mon vélo dort sous abri mais dehors, dans l'arrière cour de mon immeuble). Avec un Rohloff sur mon vélo de voyage, j'ai déjà roulé par -30°C et les vitesses passaient encore bien.
Maintenant, pour de la rando même sur longue distance en Europe, et même au-delà, un dérailleur classique peut très bien faire l'affaire. J'avais fait le choix d'un Rohloff uniquement parce que je savais que j'allais passer du temps dans des pays où on ne trouve quasiment pas de pièces de rechange (même Shimano Deore) et où j'allais alterner des tronçons à vélo, et en bus ou taxi collectif (le dérailleurs est très exposé aux chocs quand le vélo est transporté dans un coffre ou sur une galerie de toit)
Le Patria a l'air sympa, je ne connais pas cette marque, et au vu des composants que le gars a mis, le prix est à la hauteur, mais il est un peu trop grand pour moi. Par contre je n'aime pas le Trek ! 🏴☠️
Laurent.
Merci à tous pour vos réponses et commentaires. Lorsque j'évoque le très long cours, c'est aussi parce que je souhaite garder et utiliser ce vélo par tous les temps, dans des contrées reculées, mais aussi sur la durée la plus longue possible. Bref, un vélo de grand randonnée aussi durable et facile d'entretien, qu'agréable et confortable au quotidien.
Bien à vous.
Joukko
Je crois finalement me laisser tenter par le système Rohloff. Reste à choisir le vélo mais je crois avoir une petite préférence pour le TX-400. Où l'acheter, sur internet, en magasin? Faut-il acheter le modèle 2017 et bénéficier des améliorations techniques les plus récentes, Quelles modifications lui apporter.... quel équipement ? Merci pour toutes vos réponses.
Joukko
Tu as raison de choisir le Rohloff, tu ne le regretteras pas, il nécessite très peu d'entretien, j'en suis à 20 000km et aucun problème, des vidanges régulières et je viens de changer les cables et leurs gaines, c'est tout.
J'ai un TX400, je dois te dire que j'ai eu quelques problèmes, j'ai dû changer les 2 leviers de frein qui fuyaient, la béquille d'origine s'est brisée très rapidement, elle a été changée avec la garantie et remplacée par la même qui a fait de même... mais surtout le système pour tendre la chaîne est vraiment merdique et doit impérativement être entretenu au moins tous les 6 mois, il faut démonter les 2 vis sous l'axe des pédales , les graisser puis mettre du DW40 et faire bouger un peu le système asymétrique et retendre la chaîne.
A part cela c'est un super vélo
Je suis un fan des freins Magura qui sont vraiment super. De plus les HS33 doivent être le modèle au dessus des HS11. Je pense que je n'ai pas eu de chance car ces freins sont garantis 5 ans ce que j'ignorai, donc pour mon premier problème après 3,5 ans je n'ai pas fait jouer la garantie, mais pour le second je n'ai eu aucune difficulté. Monsieur Alain Maisonneuve du SAV Magura France est très sympa et très réactif, il m'a envoyé un nouveau levier gratuitement. De plus c'est très facile à monter et cela montre comment faire la purge si besoin est.
Pour la béquille, sur le modèle 2011, c'était une béquille en fonte d'aluminium "ajourée" je suppose pour un gain de poids de ce type, ça casse comme du verre:
www.bikester.fr/accessoires-velo/bequille/bequille-laterale/261561;html
cependant, quelle que soit la béquille je conseille d'en mettre une à l'avant
Erreur dans le lien précédent pour voir le type de béquille à éviter. Voici le bon:
https://www.bikester.fr/398520.html
Merci encore pour tes conseils. La question que je me pose également est celle du lieu d'achat. Il y a le magasin "Cyclable" de Rennes, où je suis allé, et les sites de revendeur sur internet qui sont moins chers, mais avec un SAV plus aléatoire. As-tu comparé le TX-400 avec le Cyclo Randonnée en Rohloff ? Il est moins cher et mieux équipé.
Joukko
J'ai acheté le mien chez cyclable à Rennes, ils sont très sympa, mais j'aurai aimé au moment de la prise en main un minimum d'information sur le vélo. Ce que je leur reproche surtout, c'est en 2012 après mon voyage en Nouvelle Zélande et avant celui en Amérique du Sud, je leur ai apporté mon vélo pour une révision et ils m'ont dit qu'il n'y avait rien à faire alors qu'il aurait fallu changer la chaîne et le pédalier et entretenir le foutu système de tension de chaîne.
Si j'avais à choisir aujourd'hui je crois que je prendrai le Cyclo Randonnée Rohloff avec cadre Surly
Bonjour,
Dix jours avant le départ d'un périple à destination d'Agadir, je m'étais fait dérobé mon Koga Signature équipé Rohloff. Il avait seulement 8000 km. Heureusement Julien avait un cyclorandonnée à la bonne taille en stock. Celui-ci a maintenant 55000 km et j'en suis très content. A propos du Rohloff, j'ai voyagé "avec" et "sans". Je suis revenu à une transmission classique et cela me va très bien aussi. Je n'aimais pas le bruit de "sable" que faisait le Rohloff en dessous de la position 7. Il a cependant l'avantage de ne pas avoir à changer la chaîne (tous les 6000 km) et la cassette (tous les 13000 km), sur une transmission classique. Le boitier Rohloff coûte cher , il faut faire plus de 200000 km pour l'amortir ! L'Irlande et les pays scandinaves sont des pays superbes à visiter à vélo, j'y étais au printemps dernier (http://suedebretagne.canalblog.com/).
Bonne préparation
Jo
Dix jours avant le départ d'un périple à destination d'Agadir, je m'étais fait dérobé mon Koga Signature équipé Rohloff. Il avait seulement 8000 km. Heureusement Julien avait un cyclorandonnée à la bonne taille en stock. Celui-ci a maintenant 55000 km et j'en suis très content. A propos du Rohloff, j'ai voyagé "avec" et "sans". Je suis revenu à une transmission classique et cela me va très bien aussi. Je n'aimais pas le bruit de "sable" que faisait le Rohloff en dessous de la position 7. Il a cependant l'avantage de ne pas avoir à changer la chaîne (tous les 6000 km) et la cassette (tous les 13000 km), sur une transmission classique. Le boitier Rohloff coûte cher , il faut faire plus de 200000 km pour l'amortir ! L'Irlande et les pays scandinaves sont des pays superbes à visiter à vélo, j'y étais au printemps dernier (http://suedebretagne.canalblog.com/).
Bonne préparation
Jo
Je te remercie pour ton témoignage, qui relance dans mon esprit le débat Rohloff ou pas. Cela dit, après avoir parcouru bien des messages, il semble que pour celui qui veut être serein en voyage, le Rohloff semble être un bon compromis, avec un peu de bruit jusqu'à la 7ème et un coût plus élevé pour la tranquillité. Je te remercie pour les liens.
Joukko
Belle et heureuse année 2017 à tous, pleine de beaux voyages. Je me demandais ce qu'il fallait emmener dans les sacoches, existe-t-il des listes sur l'indispensable à emporter, sachant que le volume des 4 sacoches est d'environ 75 litres ? Faut-il ajouter un sac sur le porte bagages arrière ?
Joukko
Bonjour ,
J'ai acheté chez CYCLABLE Strasbourg un RIDGEBACK panorama super vélo de rando très confortable j'en suis particulièrement content. c'est une alternative au TX400.
Guislain
Bonjour, je possède le T100 de chez fahrrad manufacture, "Das Vélo😉", je l'utilise aussi en vélo TAF. un peu lourd ça fonctionne très bien. Je leur ai juste fait changer le pédalier 22x32x44 manivelles de 175 au lieu de 28x38x48 manivelles de 170.
Ca roule bien à condition qu'il soit adapté et réglé correctement à votre morphologie.
Le cousin de ma femme a acheté un VTC une fortune avec rolhoff et toutes les options high tech, mal réglé il avait mal au genoux🏴☠️, donc il ne faut pas se tromper de priorité.
Les vélocistes sont bien la pour vendre du joli matos cher🤪 cependant il s'en trouve nettement moins pour aider le client à régler correctement la machine😎.
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I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉

