Qui plante un arbre, plante le bonheur (proverbe chinois)
Circuit de cinq semaines au Maroc début décembre
by Jmmaryse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonsoir,
Nous partons début Décembre pour cinq semaines au Maroc. Nous arriverons à Marrakech,
nous prévoyons deux à trois jours minimum pour prendre le rythme du Maroc et oublier nos montres dans le sac à dos. Je voudrais vous poser quelques questions et je vais vous les énumérer (c’est plus facile pour moi).
1 Notre circuit
Marrakech, Essaouira, Inezgane, Tiznit, Tafraoute, Aït Baha, Taroudant, Taliouine, Ouarzazate, Skoura, Demnate, Beni mellal, Marrakech ( c’est une ébauche comme nous ne voulons pas courir et profiter de chaque instant le circuit sera peut-être réduit)Qu’en pensez-vous
2 Achat de vélo .Je voudrais savoir s’il est possible d’acheter des vélos d’occasion
et a quel prix (les locations coûtent trop chères) Nous avons pensé faire des circuits
autour des villes citées plus haut et avant de partir donner nos vélos a une famille
3 Les hôtels a Tafraoute sans réservation sans étoiles sont-ils complets ou en trouvent-on
relativement facilement.
4 Notre budget étant serré 30 Euros à deux par jour tout compris (bus, taxi, hôtel, restaurant )
quel sont les trucs à faire et ceux a éviter
5 La ou il n’y a pas d’hôtel y a t-il possibilité de dormir chez l’habitant moyennant une participation financière ou alimentaire.
6 Les camping oui ou non Faut-il un marteau piqueur pour enfoncer les sardines
Son-ils à fuir ou à envisager pour un petit budget Faut-il se charger en plus des bagages d’une tente.
Merci de vos réponses
Jean-Marc & Maryse
Qui plante un arbre, plante le bonheur (proverbe chinois)
Qui plante un arbre, plante le bonheur (proverbe chinois)
bonjour ecrit moi par mail je peut donner des informations utiles
Sympa votre plan !
5 semaines en décembre, vous avez le pays pour vous, aucune réservation ne sera nécessaire, achetez juste une carte de téléphone pour appeler le matin, c'est un bon moyen de savoir si l'adresse existe toujours, et qu'elle est ouverte.
les vélos : la meilleure idée, c'était mon dernier plan perturbé pour raisons familiales: la loc n'existe pratiquement que pour des tours de ville., mais pour 65 à 70 euros, on trouve des vtt, comme ceux qu'on trouve à 120 euros en grande surface, équipés de porte bagages, avec un jeu d'outils de base, et 15 mn de surveillance par jour, on doit pouvoir faire un beau circuit, et pas de souci pour les mettre dans une soute de bus, (1 à 2 euros par trajet) et meme dans un coffre de mercedes. et bien sur les donner au départ. il n'y a pas de marché d'occase, ils s'usent jusqu'à la corde, et meme au dela!
Budget effectivement serré : en décembre on ne dort pas sur les terrasses, mais on trouve des chambres à 7 10 euros, douche froide et wc sur palier. Les bus coutent 3 euros au 100 km environ, un repas bord de route, tagine, coute 1, 5 à 3 euros.
Il y a des mini hotels partout, le logement chez l'habitant est une loterie, on ne sait que le lendemain si on est tombé dans un plan galère (attention aux beaux parleurs, ils sont meme sur ce forum!) ou un plan sympa. Le camping en guitoune en décembre, ca va faire juste, il y a assez d'hébergements, pour vous éviter le transport de duvets et de tente.
A votre service pour la préparation.
5 semaines en décembre, vous avez le pays pour vous, aucune réservation ne sera nécessaire, achetez juste une carte de téléphone pour appeler le matin, c'est un bon moyen de savoir si l'adresse existe toujours, et qu'elle est ouverte.
les vélos : la meilleure idée, c'était mon dernier plan perturbé pour raisons familiales: la loc n'existe pratiquement que pour des tours de ville., mais pour 65 à 70 euros, on trouve des vtt, comme ceux qu'on trouve à 120 euros en grande surface, équipés de porte bagages, avec un jeu d'outils de base, et 15 mn de surveillance par jour, on doit pouvoir faire un beau circuit, et pas de souci pour les mettre dans une soute de bus, (1 à 2 euros par trajet) et meme dans un coffre de mercedes. et bien sur les donner au départ. il n'y a pas de marché d'occase, ils s'usent jusqu'à la corde, et meme au dela!
Budget effectivement serré : en décembre on ne dort pas sur les terrasses, mais on trouve des chambres à 7 10 euros, douche froide et wc sur palier. Les bus coutent 3 euros au 100 km environ, un repas bord de route, tagine, coute 1, 5 à 3 euros.
Il y a des mini hotels partout, le logement chez l'habitant est une loterie, on ne sait que le lendemain si on est tombé dans un plan galère (attention aux beaux parleurs, ils sont meme sur ce forum!) ou un plan sympa. Le camping en guitoune en décembre, ca va faire juste, il y a assez d'hébergements, pour vous éviter le transport de duvets et de tente.
A votre service pour la préparation.
bonjour;
en effet les hotels ne sont pas chers pas la peine d'aller au camping surtout a cette periode les nuits sont plustot froides, , , votre circuit n'est pas mal sauf peut etre" beni mellah via -- marakech "en derniere position a voir
bon voyage
j'en profite pour poser une question : y a t il quelqu'un sur ce forum qui part pour l'hotel ali ces jours ci !!!!!ou le central palace?? merci
j'en profite pour poser une question : y a t il quelqu'un sur ce forum qui part pour l'hotel ali ces jours ci !!!!!ou le central palace?? merci
la vie est ce que l'on en fait !!
Bonjour
je profite de la lecture du mail... mais ne vais pas pouvoir vous aider !
Je suis en train d'organiser 1 trek familial de 5 semaines au Maroc (tient donc !) et je suis preneur de vos retours, conseils, bons plans, galères, ... à votre retour.
Merci d'avance et profitez, profitez !
je profite de la lecture du mail... mais ne vais pas pouvoir vous aider !
Je suis en train d'organiser 1 trek familial de 5 semaines au Maroc (tient donc !) et je suis preneur de vos retours, conseils, bons plans, galères, ... à votre retour.
Merci d'avance et profitez, profitez !
FIFI
A mon avis et pour parler franc, si vous réduisiez votre périple en vous limitant à Tafraout dernière étape avant Marrakech, à ce moment là vous pouvez prétendre à plus de confort sans trop vous faire d'illusion, et, partir sur une meilleure base de dépense journalière! le fait de pousser sur Beni Mellal pour revenir sur Marrakech est purement de la fantaisie je suppose? revoyez vos cartes routières!...Partout, en vous adressant au Khalifa ou pour les tout petits bleds au Mokkadem, ceux ci pourront vous indiquer des personnes susceptibles de vous offrir l'hébergement d'hôte, c'est possible et peu cher! alors là, vous pourriez mieux profiter du temps imparti, pour faire un peu de nature et de vie locale, je suis persuadé que vous en tireriez beaucoup de satisfaction! en principe dans les bleds les gens ne vous laisseront pas planter votre tente, et vous inviteront sous leur toit il faut savoir que c'est çà aussi le Maroc hospitalier, c'est une aventure qui m'est arrivée du côté du Binel ouidane, un merveilleux coin que je vous conseillerais volontiers tellement c'est beau! si par hasard vous y alliez, faites vous passer pour un ami du Dentiste de Casablanca qui avait construit une maison là bàs avec l'aide spontanée des habitants du bled d'à côté, qui se sont vus reçevoir des soins dentaires gratuits en guise de rétribution!....Voilà asseyez d'ajuster votre voyage en vous inspirant de mes humbles conseils dites moi-en le résultat à votre retour, non pas pour me faire plaisir mais surtout pour aider les futurs randonneurs !
En tout cas BON VENT !!!
bonjour,
je penses pouvoir vous aider avec votre sejour ici au maroc!
on est habitué a aider des voyageurs de partout pour choisir leur circuit au maroc!
je vous mets un example de circuits que vous pourrez faire comme attachement JPEG ...
ce qui m'aiderais de savoir plus c'est que si vous etes deux personnes ou plus! quels sont vos ages? pardonner ma question! mais c'est juste que en cette periode il fait tres froids dan quelques regions que vous avez indiqué dans votre liste de ville a vouloir visiter! et faire ces ville a vélo! c'est une bonne idée! mais la periode est unpeu risqué!
bref! si vous voulez plus d'infos je me ferais une joie de vous aider.
ajm@menara.ma
ps: dans l'image dessus, il y a quatres station, Marrakech comme centre essaouira a l'ouest les cascades d'aouzoudes et les regions avoisinantes au nord et warzazate au sude est...
ps: dans l'image dessus, il y a quatres station, Marrakech comme centre essaouira a l'ouest les cascades d'aouzoudes et les regions avoisinantes au nord et warzazate au sude est...
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Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)