Circuit en Thaïlande en liberté (avec voyagiste)
by Raggiodisole
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
quelqu'un a t-il fait avec Climats du Monde le circuit "Thailande Authentique "en liberté ?
je lis beaucoup de mauvais avis sur ce voyagiste, je voudrais des avis sur ce circuit ..
merci !
capitales du Siam en Thaïlande. La guide se faisait appeler Nipay.
1/ j'attends près d'une heure dès l'arrivée à l'aéroport de Bangkok avec un petit groupe rencontré aux bagages. Vous aviez fixé le RV en porte 10 avec Nathalie ; Nipay attendait en porte 6. Elle commence à se plaindre qu'elle a trop de travail et que nous sommes trop nombreux (nous ne serons qu'une vingtaine pourtant !)
2/ avant de quitter l'aéroport elle nous "ordonne" de retirer du cash car "il faut payer les excursions facultatives dans le bus avant d'arriver à l'hôtel, après ce sera trop tard". On s'exécute, vu qu'elle ne veut pas s'arrêter en route et que l'hôtel, selon elle, ne dispose pas de banque à proximité.
3/ en cours de visite des temples, elle change l'heure et le lieux de RV au bus. Ce qui fait que certains sont régulièrement en retard ou perdus, puisqu'elle n'avertit que les quelques personnes qui arrivent à suivre sa course effrénée.
4/ je décide d'acheter la majorité des excursions supplémentaires et payantes, mais pas l'excursion facultative "bateau sur le fleuve à la frontière du Laos". Nous partons tous pour 2 heures de bus, et au moment où les membres du groupe embarquent sur le bateau, la guide m'annonce que je dois patienter 1h30 sur le parking où se trouve une dizaine d'échoppes et un bar. Ils reviendront avec demi heure de retard. J'ai donc passé plus de deux heure sur le bitume en plein soleil à attendre. La guide restera indifférente à ma remarque. En gros : tu payes ou tu te tais. Cela se reproduira au cours d'autres excursions facultatives.
5/ au temple royal : on peut pas voir le bouddha vert qui est exposé car l'accès est réservé aux invités pour l'anniversaire du roi aujourd'hui... On peut pas rentrer dans un autre temple car nous, les filles, ne sommes pas en jupe longue mais en pantalon long ..... au bout de 3/4 d'heure on se fait mettre dehors car le roi va arriver..... Il me semblait que vous vous engagiez à modifier l'ordre des visites si un événement le nécessitait... Du coup on patiente 1/2 heure dans notre bus car 3 membres doivent prendre un autre bus pour partir en trekking et ils sont furieux car Nipay a oublié de commander leur panier-repas alors qu'ils partent pour 14h de train couchette!
Un jour, retour à l'hôtel très très tôt. Nous trouvons que c'est trop tôt puis nous apprenons que le roi fait l'objet d'une émission télévisée pour son anniversaire ( notre guide nous dira plus tard " vous avez regardé notre roi à la tv ? C'était très bien je me suis régalée ..) nous comprenons pourquoi la journée de visite s'est terminée si tôt.
6/ A la question " qu'est ce que ce monument architectural avec les éléphants roses" elle me répondra " tu poses trop de question toi" (plus tard, j'apprendrai que la sculpture est archi connue des thaïlandais , offerte pour l'anniversaire du roi récemment ... Merci google).
7/ Je vois des moines effectuant leurs rites et demande des précisions sur la religion. Elle me répond "attends, le voyage ne fait que commencer on verra d'autres temples plus tard ". Fin de l'échange. Il n'y aura pas de réponse. Elle ne me reparlera que pour me faire remarquer que je n'achète rien dans les magasins d'usine dans lesquels elle nous traînera toute une journée (le cuir, l'argent, les pierres, les tissus, les ombrelles, la soie, les orchidées ...)
8/ vous annonciez " soirée spéciale : dîner et spectacle traditionnel" Départ en bus à 18h. Dîner à 18h15 (on nous pose tous les plats sur la table en même temps, je suis dos au spectacle, je dois engloutir contorsionnée). 19h retour au bus. 19h15 retour à la chambre d'hôtel situé loin du centre animé. Mini révolte dans le bus, les plus jeunes sont "agités"....
9/ un matin, on descend du bus, et elle nous dit "aller payer la location de votre vélo et on se retrouve aux ruines car il y a 2 km à faire et le bus est interdit." La plupart d'entre nous est d'accord pour le faire à pieds et profiter de la nature, mais non, elle nous impose de payer nous-mêmes les vélos. Gonflé pour un circuit où seules les boissons sont en supplément ... Elle ira régulièrement jusqu'à nous dire combien il faut donner de pourboire au chauffeur de bus (1200 bahts par couple), à son adjointe, au chauffeur de tuktuk, à la personne qui fait griller les insectes (lors d'une excursion supplémentaire que nous payons en plus du circuit)....
Donc pour résumer votre représentante sur place : - connaissances architecturale, religieuse, géographique très limitées (elle passa son temps à nous raconter sa vie de famille et critiquer les français, les européens .... ) certains se demanderont si c'est parce qu'elle ne connaît pas les traductions en français ou bien si c'est parce qu'elle ne connaît pas son métier. - organisation exécrable, - Approche extrêmement vénale, - Indifférence totale à nos propos - atteinte de mauvaise foi et complètement blasée (frustrée ?)
9/ dernier jour à Bangkok. Nous arrivons à 7h du matin dans un hôtel en périphérie pour petit déjeuner après une nuit couchette en train. Mon taxi pour rejoindre l'aéroport est prévu à 22h (vol de nuit à 1h40). Elle m'annonce "tu peux rester dans le hall de l'hôtel jusqu'à cette nuit, moi j'ai terminé ma prestation je vais partir, tu n'as pas accès aux chambres ni au restaurant, les autres membres partent pour leurs extensions à la plage".
L'expression "circuit organisé par climats du monde" atteind là son paroxysme.
1/ j'attends près d'une heure dès l'arrivée à l'aéroport de Bangkok avec un petit groupe rencontré aux bagages. Vous aviez fixé le RV en porte 10 avec Nathalie ; Nipay attendait en porte 6. Elle commence à se plaindre qu'elle a trop de travail et que nous sommes trop nombreux (nous ne serons qu'une vingtaine pourtant !)
2/ avant de quitter l'aéroport elle nous "ordonne" de retirer du cash car "il faut payer les excursions facultatives dans le bus avant d'arriver à l'hôtel, après ce sera trop tard". On s'exécute, vu qu'elle ne veut pas s'arrêter en route et que l'hôtel, selon elle, ne dispose pas de banque à proximité.
3/ en cours de visite des temples, elle change l'heure et le lieux de RV au bus. Ce qui fait que certains sont régulièrement en retard ou perdus, puisqu'elle n'avertit que les quelques personnes qui arrivent à suivre sa course effrénée.
4/ je décide d'acheter la majorité des excursions supplémentaires et payantes, mais pas l'excursion facultative "bateau sur le fleuve à la frontière du Laos". Nous partons tous pour 2 heures de bus, et au moment où les membres du groupe embarquent sur le bateau, la guide m'annonce que je dois patienter 1h30 sur le parking où se trouve une dizaine d'échoppes et un bar. Ils reviendront avec demi heure de retard. J'ai donc passé plus de deux heure sur le bitume en plein soleil à attendre. La guide restera indifférente à ma remarque. En gros : tu payes ou tu te tais. Cela se reproduira au cours d'autres excursions facultatives.
5/ au temple royal : on peut pas voir le bouddha vert qui est exposé car l'accès est réservé aux invités pour l'anniversaire du roi aujourd'hui... On peut pas rentrer dans un autre temple car nous, les filles, ne sommes pas en jupe longue mais en pantalon long ..... au bout de 3/4 d'heure on se fait mettre dehors car le roi va arriver..... Il me semblait que vous vous engagiez à modifier l'ordre des visites si un événement le nécessitait... Du coup on patiente 1/2 heure dans notre bus car 3 membres doivent prendre un autre bus pour partir en trekking et ils sont furieux car Nipay a oublié de commander leur panier-repas alors qu'ils partent pour 14h de train couchette!
Un jour, retour à l'hôtel très très tôt. Nous trouvons que c'est trop tôt puis nous apprenons que le roi fait l'objet d'une émission télévisée pour son anniversaire ( notre guide nous dira plus tard " vous avez regardé notre roi à la tv ? C'était très bien je me suis régalée ..) nous comprenons pourquoi la journée de visite s'est terminée si tôt.
6/ A la question " qu'est ce que ce monument architectural avec les éléphants roses" elle me répondra " tu poses trop de question toi" (plus tard, j'apprendrai que la sculpture est archi connue des thaïlandais , offerte pour l'anniversaire du roi récemment ... Merci google).
7/ Je vois des moines effectuant leurs rites et demande des précisions sur la religion. Elle me répond "attends, le voyage ne fait que commencer on verra d'autres temples plus tard ". Fin de l'échange. Il n'y aura pas de réponse. Elle ne me reparlera que pour me faire remarquer que je n'achète rien dans les magasins d'usine dans lesquels elle nous traînera toute une journée (le cuir, l'argent, les pierres, les tissus, les ombrelles, la soie, les orchidées ...)
8/ vous annonciez " soirée spéciale : dîner et spectacle traditionnel" Départ en bus à 18h. Dîner à 18h15 (on nous pose tous les plats sur la table en même temps, je suis dos au spectacle, je dois engloutir contorsionnée). 19h retour au bus. 19h15 retour à la chambre d'hôtel situé loin du centre animé. Mini révolte dans le bus, les plus jeunes sont "agités"....
9/ un matin, on descend du bus, et elle nous dit "aller payer la location de votre vélo et on se retrouve aux ruines car il y a 2 km à faire et le bus est interdit." La plupart d'entre nous est d'accord pour le faire à pieds et profiter de la nature, mais non, elle nous impose de payer nous-mêmes les vélos. Gonflé pour un circuit où seules les boissons sont en supplément ... Elle ira régulièrement jusqu'à nous dire combien il faut donner de pourboire au chauffeur de bus (1200 bahts par couple), à son adjointe, au chauffeur de tuktuk, à la personne qui fait griller les insectes (lors d'une excursion supplémentaire que nous payons en plus du circuit)....
Donc pour résumer votre représentante sur place : - connaissances architecturale, religieuse, géographique très limitées (elle passa son temps à nous raconter sa vie de famille et critiquer les français, les européens .... ) certains se demanderont si c'est parce qu'elle ne connaît pas les traductions en français ou bien si c'est parce qu'elle ne connaît pas son métier. - organisation exécrable, - Approche extrêmement vénale, - Indifférence totale à nos propos - atteinte de mauvaise foi et complètement blasée (frustrée ?)
9/ dernier jour à Bangkok. Nous arrivons à 7h du matin dans un hôtel en périphérie pour petit déjeuner après une nuit couchette en train. Mon taxi pour rejoindre l'aéroport est prévu à 22h (vol de nuit à 1h40). Elle m'annonce "tu peux rester dans le hall de l'hôtel jusqu'à cette nuit, moi j'ai terminé ma prestation je vais partir, tu n'as pas accès aux chambres ni au restaurant, les autres membres partent pour leurs extensions à la plage".
L'expression "circuit organisé par climats du monde" atteind là son paroxysme.
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Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !






