Comment faites-vous tous ces voyages, quels sont vos moyens?
by Indianfusion
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour tout le monde!
Voilà, je suis très intriguée par votre créneau temporaire vous permettant de longs voyages. En effet, j'ai vu que certaines personnes traversent l'Asie à pied, ce qui est assez long, et j'aimerai savoir comment faites-vous pour avoir un métier qui vous laisse assez de temps et de moyens pour ces voyages?
C'est vrai que je ne suis qu'étudiante, mais cela ne me déplairai pas d'avoir un gagne-pain et une marge de temps considérable pour d'aussi beaux et nombreux voyages.
Je vous remercie, toute réponse sera la bienvenue! De même pour les conseils... ;-)
Le monde aurait pu être simple comme le ciel et la mer.
Bonjour,
J'en connais qui : ont fait un (tres) long voyage juste apres les etudes ou qui font des voyages entre deux changements de travail ou encore qui ont un savoir qui les placent en position favorable pour quitter leur employeur et revenir comme si rien n'etait car ils sont tres profitables
Sinon : les vacances d'ete a la fac sont tout de meme longs on peut travailler a l'etranger
Bon courage!
J'en connais qui : ont fait un (tres) long voyage juste apres les etudes ou qui font des voyages entre deux changements de travail ou encore qui ont un savoir qui les placent en position favorable pour quitter leur employeur et revenir comme si rien n'etait car ils sont tres profitables
Sinon : les vacances d'ete a la fac sont tout de meme longs on peut travailler a l'etranger
Bon courage!
pour commencer 2 annees sabatiques a partir de l'annee prochaine. Une partie sera consacree au voyage pur une autre au voyage-travail comme les visa wh en australie histoire de vivre un peu tt de meme et de se financer.
Sinon mon stage de derniere annee 6mois au nigeria m'offrira une confortable avance pour voyager tranquillement les salaires etant eleves puisqu il s'agit d'un pays a risque.
Sinon mon stage de derniere annee 6mois au nigeria m'offrira une confortable avance pour voyager tranquillement les salaires etant eleves puisqu il s'agit d'un pays a risque.
J'ai commencé à voyager en 'utilisant' uniquement mon nombre de congés légaux.
En 1996, je suis allée en Inde pour la première fois et ce fut le coup de foudre.
De 96 à 99, j'y suis chaque année retournée, toujours en utilisant mes jours de congés : reste de l'année difficile car jamais je ne prenais un jour pour tout garder pour le voyage annuel en Inde.
Au fil du temps, le coup de foudre s'est mué en une belle histoire d'amour et .... le mois de congés est devenu insuffisant.
Pendant 4 ans, ce fut la course aux heures sup pour engranger des récup et pouvoir partir 2 fois plus longtemps : 2 mois au lieu d'un. Heureusement que le travail ne manquait pas et les heures sup prestées étaient bien remplies.
Maintenant, 2 mois me paraissent courts. je suis en congé sabbatique et espère pouvoir tenir le coup jusqu'à la pré-retraite.😉
Maintenant, 2 mois me paraissent courts. je suis en congé sabbatique et espère pouvoir tenir le coup jusqu'à la pré-retraite.😉
Je vois que tu as 18 ans...moi à partir de 18 ans je voyageais 3 mois tous les ans...tu bosses un peu pendant l'année ou une partie de l'été et tu pars.
Avec 1000 euros tu peux aller à peu près partout sur la route de la soie en faisant attention aux dépenses ou prendre un billet pour l'Asie et vivoter sur place...
L'essentiel est de le vouloir...
Bonne route.
Mouais.. tous les étudiants n'ont pas 3 mois de vacances...
mais admettons.
je crois que la question portait plus sur le monde professionel, quelles professions permettent de partir tant?
il y a un début de réponses là :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=273276;search_string=p%E9trole%20vacances;#273276
good luck
good luck
Bog2K a bien résumé rapidement les différentes possibilités.
Pour ma part, je suis partie un an après mes études. Comme je n'avais pas d'argent, je suis partie comme aupair : logement & travail assuré pour un an. Expérience géniale qui m'a donné le goût du voyage et des rencontres.
Ensuite, je suis rentrée dans la vie active et j'ai utilisé mes congés pour voyager.
Et enfin, je viens de poser un congé sans solde d'un an (pour réaliser un TDM) auprès de mon employeur qui a accepté avec enthousiasme (sur ce coup là, je suis chanceuse).
Voilà.... Finalement, le véritable truc, c'est de se lancer tout simplement...
Bonne chance pour tes futurs voyages !
Virginie
Pour ma part, je suis partie un an après mes études. Comme je n'avais pas d'argent, je suis partie comme aupair : logement & travail assuré pour un an. Expérience géniale qui m'a donné le goût du voyage et des rencontres.
Ensuite, je suis rentrée dans la vie active et j'ai utilisé mes congés pour voyager.
Et enfin, je viens de poser un congé sans solde d'un an (pour réaliser un TDM) auprès de mon employeur qui a accepté avec enthousiasme (sur ce coup là, je suis chanceuse).
Voilà.... Finalement, le véritable truc, c'est de se lancer tout simplement...
Bonne chance pour tes futurs voyages !
Virginie
La chance n'est pas le résultat du hasard : ce sont nos propres choix qui créent notre chance.
Il y a tellement de possibilites, qui sont tout autant nombreuses que personnelles. Tu as ta vie, ta route, tes habitudes, tes passions tes reves...peut-etre aucun budget peut-etre un gros!! Peu importe. Quand j'ai voulu voyager pour la premiere fois, j'avais les meme questions que toi. Mes soeur avaient beaucoup voyagee deja, moi j'etais aux etudes et sans argent et j'avais une envie folle d'aller voir plus loin, seulement aucun idee de quand comment, avec qui et quelle argent. Et alors ma mere ma donne un conseil, que je t'invite a suivre, c'est un peu "boudhiste" comme solution mais crois moi c'est la clef: tout simplement mettre les energies dans cette direction ( ici on parle de voyager), y croire profondement, et alors les solutions, les reponses et la route vont tranquillement et en temps et lieux se presenter devant toi, peut-etre plus rapidement que tu n'aurais imaginee...
Petite anecdote en ce sens : Pour mon dernier voyage, je voulais aller au Costa Rica. Je n'avais pas d'argent, ni personne pour m'accompgner mais j'avais 3 choses en tetes : partir, apprendre l'espagnol et apprendre a surfer, et partir plus d'un mois. J'ai achetee un billet d'avion pour 4 mois. Une semaine plus tard je rencontre un fille qui est parti au Costa Rica : elle me parle d'un village ou elle a appris l'espagnol, qui lui coutait 10$can par jour pour vivre et qui a ete une experience extraordinaire. Elle me met en contact avec la famille chez qui elle est demeuree la bas. J'ai maintenant un endroit merveilleux et tres peu cher pour aller apprendre l'espagnol. Je reste 2 mois dans ce villages, j'en sort trilingue et pleine de merveilleux souvenirs. Au bout de 2 mois, j'ai envie de partir voir la mer et d'apprendre a surfer, je n'ai plus qu'environ 200$ en poche. Je pars pour la mer, une escapade de 3 jours. Je rencontre un homme, il m'apprend a surfer et revient avec moi au village. J'en tombe amoureuse il m'offre de faire un autre mois de voyage avec lui a la recherche de belles vagues. Je n'ai plus d'argent pour voyager, il me dit de ne pas m'en faire. On voyage un mois et demi ensemble, je surf de vraies vagues et je te laisse imaginee le voyage de reve que j'ai vecue....
Conclusion : je sais que c'est difficile a coire mais les seules barriere sont celles qu'on s'impose sois-meme. Ca demande parfois du courage par contre de foncer sans tenir compte de ces "barriere". Tu peux partir seule ( et c'est d'ailleurs selon moi la meilleure facon de voyager) tu peux partir avec tres peu d'argent, tu peux quitter ton emplois, retarder tes etudes, tout est possible, tu dois seulement faire ton propre chemin, qui n'a rien a voir avec le mien ou celui de personne d'autre....Bon courage!!!
Petite anecdote en ce sens : Pour mon dernier voyage, je voulais aller au Costa Rica. Je n'avais pas d'argent, ni personne pour m'accompgner mais j'avais 3 choses en tetes : partir, apprendre l'espagnol et apprendre a surfer, et partir plus d'un mois. J'ai achetee un billet d'avion pour 4 mois. Une semaine plus tard je rencontre un fille qui est parti au Costa Rica : elle me parle d'un village ou elle a appris l'espagnol, qui lui coutait 10$can par jour pour vivre et qui a ete une experience extraordinaire. Elle me met en contact avec la famille chez qui elle est demeuree la bas. J'ai maintenant un endroit merveilleux et tres peu cher pour aller apprendre l'espagnol. Je reste 2 mois dans ce villages, j'en sort trilingue et pleine de merveilleux souvenirs. Au bout de 2 mois, j'ai envie de partir voir la mer et d'apprendre a surfer, je n'ai plus qu'environ 200$ en poche. Je pars pour la mer, une escapade de 3 jours. Je rencontre un homme, il m'apprend a surfer et revient avec moi au village. J'en tombe amoureuse il m'offre de faire un autre mois de voyage avec lui a la recherche de belles vagues. Je n'ai plus d'argent pour voyager, il me dit de ne pas m'en faire. On voyage un mois et demi ensemble, je surf de vraies vagues et je te laisse imaginee le voyage de reve que j'ai vecue....
Conclusion : je sais que c'est difficile a coire mais les seules barriere sont celles qu'on s'impose sois-meme. Ca demande parfois du courage par contre de foncer sans tenir compte de ces "barriere". Tu peux partir seule ( et c'est d'ailleurs selon moi la meilleure facon de voyager) tu peux partir avec tres peu d'argent, tu peux quitter ton emplois, retarder tes etudes, tout est possible, tu dois seulement faire ton propre chemin, qui n'a rien a voir avec le mien ou celui de personne d'autre....Bon courage!!!
Il faut rajouter de la vie aux années...et non des années à la vie.
"Je vois que tu as 18 ans...moi à partir de 18 ans je voyageais 3 mois tous les ans...tu bosses un peu pendant l'année ou une partie de l'été et tu pars. "
ca y fait quand meme bien pensé. le "tu bosses un peu pendant l'année et tu pars" fais penser à un petit bouleau d'étudiant
mais de toute facon peu importe
ca y fait quand meme bien pensé. le "tu bosses un peu pendant l'année et tu pars" fais penser à un petit bouleau d'étudiant
mais de toute facon peu importe
Tu arretes de bosser, tu touches le chomage, et tu payes tes voyages grace aux aides de l'Etat....🏴☠️🏴☠️
Triste à dire, mais malheureusement beaucoup d'abrutis le font sur le long terme !!!😠😠
Triste à dire, mais malheureusement beaucoup d'abrutis le font sur le long terme !!!😠😠
te titiller...😉
mais j'ai bien compris que je n'avais aucune chance alors tant pis. 🙁
Ce qui est une très bonne chose !!!! Merci pour l'info je ne savais pas...😉
ouais ben chez moi cest pas tous les mois!!
j ai un pote qui va venir me rejoindre en septembre, il touche le chomage, et lui ce st que tous les 3 mois...
petit panda:
moi tu peux me tritiller, j en fretille d avance😛
oh oui, je vais changer alors, petit poisson qui fretille!! 😉(as tu la mémoire de poisson rouge qui va avec??🤪🙂) parceque Brasilero il est un peu petit joueur et en plus avec toutes ses discussions d'anpe et tout ca, c'est pas top
Si tu te payes tes voyages grâce aux aides de l'état c est que tu es cadre, sinon les idemnités du chomage ne te permettent pas les voyages que tu te payes, soit réaliste, la meilleure façon de se payer des voyages est de travailler et d'économiser, mais peut être peux tu nous en dire plus sur tes indemnités payées par l'état........
Jacqueline
Je voudrais rédiger une réponse globale, en m'adressant à chacun d'entre vous. =)
Tout d'abord je vous remercie bien pour vos messages si rapides et clairs, je ne pensais pas avoir autant de réponses! Chaque personne a su me renseigner sur ce que je recherchais, sur ce qui m'était confus.
Je pense que je vais continuer à récolter un peu d'argent en travaillant en parallèle de mes études, ainsi je pourrai partir quelques temps au moins pour découvrir les pays qui me sont étrangers mais qui me passionnent. Par la suite (je ne veux pas trop m'élancer dans l'avenir, rien n'est trop sûr!) j'aimerai réaliser un voyage bien plus long après mes études si je tiens le coup...
J'ai pu voir que certains d'entre vous, je dirai même la plupart, ont vécu des expériences inoubliables et enrichissantes. C'est vrai, le plus dur est la décision, l'affrontement de nos propore barrières et parfois de notre entourage malheureusement, mais le courage et la détermination sont la clé du départ, du début de l'aventure!
Merci encore de m'avoir aussi bien informée, je vous en suis très reconnaissante, et lorsque j'aurai besoin de quelques tuyaux je ferai appel à vos esprits expérimentés!!!
Bons voyages et bonne route à vous aussi!
Bons voyages et bonne route à vous aussi!
Le monde aurait pu être simple comme le ciel et la mer.
Je n'ai jamais dis avoir d'indemnités. D'ailleurs en tant qu'étudiant je risque pas d'en avoir.
Je souligne le fait que beaucoup vivent à l'étranger avec pour salaire le chomage francais. En gros ils pompent tout ce qu'ils peuvent comme aide social et partent se la couler douce au soleil !!
Je vois pas comment tu peux défendre ça mais bon......😕
Je souligne le fait que beaucoup vivent à l'étranger avec pour salaire le chomage francais. En gros ils pompent tout ce qu'ils peuvent comme aide social et partent se la couler douce au soleil !!
Je vois pas comment tu peux défendre ça mais bon......😕
Les Assedics ce sont pas des aides sociales...c'est un système d'assurance sociale pour couvrir le risque chômage c'est très différent.
Et du reste un chômeur peut allé à l'Etranger chercher du travail sous réserve qu'il conserve son domicile en France pendant la durée de ses investigations...
Je n'ai rien contre ceux qui cherchent du travail.....juste ceux qui se payent leurs vacances aux frais de l'état (quand je dis vacances je parle de plusieurs mois).
Enfin bref, heureusement que tout le monde n'est pas comme ca...😉
Enfin bref, heureusement que tout le monde n'est pas comme ca...😉
je ne défends pas du tout, je dis pour avoir des amis au chomage que leurs indemnités ne leur permettraient pas de voyager comme tu le dis, si ce sont des cadres ok mais sinon les idemnités chomage ne sont pas assez élévées pour se permettre de partir loin en voyage, par contre même les chomeurs ont droit a un mois de congés😉
Jacqueline
... quand tu es au chômage, ce qui est mon cas actuellement et plus pour très longtemps, tu peux toujours "pointer" auprès des ASSEDIC par téléphone ou par internet, mais en ce qui me concerne, je suis convoqué tous les mois à l'ANPE pour faire le point (pas très approfondi) avec un "conseiller" sur mes recherches et contacts en cours ...
... ce système de contrôle mensuel a été mis en place en début d'année 2006, en même temps que la réforme du calcul des indemnités de chômage ...
... ce système de contrôle mensuel a été mis en place en début d'année 2006, en même temps que la réforme du calcul des indemnités de chômage ...
Par contre ça va pas être facile pour lui quand il sera sur un village au fin fond de l'amazonie de revenir pour le rendez vous mensuel à l'ANPE. En fait sur Paris, les rendez vous sont bien mensuels depuis début 2006, et pour la petite histoire on peut être radié des Assedics pendant pas mal de temps si on ne se présente pas. Le jeu à mon sens n'en vaut pas la chandelle, il vaut mieux partir l'esprit en paix et profiter de son voyage à ses frais sans avoir de stress sur le prochain courrier ANPE qui risque de tomber dans la boite aux lettres...
Le jeu à mon sens n'en vaut pas la chandelle,
Sans parler de ça, c'est, à mon sens, ce foutre de la gueule du monde.
Surtout que l'on peux conserver ses droits et couverture sociale pendant pas mal de temps (3 ans) et donc percevoir ses revenus au retour, ce qui en plus laisse le temps de se retourner. Après un voyage de plusieurs mois ... on a généralement un peu de mal à se remettre dans le bain, donc autant garder une bouée de sauvetage !
Et je suis bien d'accord avec toi, pas la peine de stresser avec ça en voyage !
Sans parler de ça, c'est, à mon sens, ce foutre de la gueule du monde.
Surtout que l'on peux conserver ses droits et couverture sociale pendant pas mal de temps (3 ans) et donc percevoir ses revenus au retour, ce qui en plus laisse le temps de se retourner. Après un voyage de plusieurs mois ... on a généralement un peu de mal à se remettre dans le bain, donc autant garder une bouée de sauvetage !
Et je suis bien d'accord avec toi, pas la peine de stresser avec ça en voyage !
Par contre ça va pas être facile pour lui quand il sera sur un village au fin fond de l'amazonie de revenir pour le rendez vous mensuel à l'ANPE. En fait sur Paris, les rendez vous sont bien mensuels depuis début 2006, et pour la petite histoire on peut être radié des Assedics pendant pas mal de temps si on ne se présente pas. Le jeu à mon sens n'en vaut pas la chandelle, il vaut mieux partir l'esprit en paix et profiter de son voyage à ses frais sans avoir de stress sur le prochain courrier ANPE qui risque de tomber dans la boite aux lettres...
Le plus simple consiste à faire renvoyer l'attestation papier mensuelle tous les mois par un tiers ou de lui demander de pointer par le net à date fixe. La pratique est très répandue.
Le plus simple consiste à faire renvoyer l'attestation papier mensuelle tous les mois par un tiers ou de lui demander de pointer par le net à date fixe. La pratique est très répandue.
peut être ne touche t il pas d'indemnités...ou bien il est intermitant du spectacle...mais pour les autres parisiens je pense que tout le monde est logé à la même enseigne.
Pour enfoncer le clous avec SCH, imaginez vous sur une iles paradisiaque ou à Darjeeling en train de regarder l'himalaya quand vous recevez un SMS de votre "facteur" vous disant qu'un rendez vous est prévu dans une semaine avec votre conseiller ANPE au 3 Rue du Départ à Créteil...Même si on ne voyage pas obligatoirement pour fuir la réalité, la plupart voyage pour découvrir une autre réalité...alors l'ANPE à Darjeeling c'est comme du saucisson dans un thali, ça doit pas être très digeste.
Je n'ai rien contre ceux qui profitent du système, si j'avais eu la possibilité je l'aurais peut être fait mais encore une fois il faut bien penser aux implications que ça peut avoir, non pas au niveau social, mais bien au niveau de sa petite personne, avant de prendre une décision.
Je n'ai rien contre ceux qui profitent du système, si j'avais eu la possibilité je l'aurais peut être fait mais encore une fois il faut bien penser aux implications que ça peut avoir, non pas au niveau social, mais bien au niveau de sa petite personne, avant de prendre une décision.
Salut,
Je me suis souvent posé la question moi-même. Je remarque qu'il ny a pas de québécois qui ont répondu à cette question. Je lisais une remarque qui disait qq chose comme "je conserve mon mois de vacances pour..." CHANCEUX !!! Nous, ici, nous n'avons que 2 semaines de vacances, ce n'est qu'après 5 ans de travail pour le même employeur qu'ils ont l'obligation de nous en accorder une troisième et jamais l'obligation d'un quatrième. Seulement les gens qui sont syndiqués ou qui ont de gentils patrons peuvent obtenir ces 4ème, 5ème, ou plus de semaine de vacances. Je me demande aussi ce que ces voyageurs qui partent pour un mois et plus font avec leurs enfants pendant ce temps... car les amener avec nous, ça chiffre en bout de ligne.
Johanne
Je me suis souvent posé la question moi-même. Je remarque qu'il ny a pas de québécois qui ont répondu à cette question. Je lisais une remarque qui disait qq chose comme "je conserve mon mois de vacances pour..." CHANCEUX !!! Nous, ici, nous n'avons que 2 semaines de vacances, ce n'est qu'après 5 ans de travail pour le même employeur qu'ils ont l'obligation de nous en accorder une troisième et jamais l'obligation d'un quatrième. Seulement les gens qui sont syndiqués ou qui ont de gentils patrons peuvent obtenir ces 4ème, 5ème, ou plus de semaine de vacances. Je me demande aussi ce que ces voyageurs qui partent pour un mois et plus font avec leurs enfants pendant ce temps... car les amener avec nous, ça chiffre en bout de ligne.
Johanne
Le voyage... On aime un jour, on aime toujours!
Tu arretes de bosser, tu touches le chomage, et tu payes tes voyages grace aux aides de l'Etat....🏴☠️🏴☠️
Triste à dire, mais malheureusement beaucoup d'abrutis le font sur le long terme !!!

Laisse tes principes de côtés et dis franchement dans ce cas c'est qui l'abrutis ??
Triste à dire, mais malheureusement beaucoup d'abrutis le font sur le long terme !!!


Laisse tes principes de côtés et dis franchement dans ce cas c'est qui l'abrutis ??
L'argent c'est fait pour être dépensé.
Un autre point de vue pour les "profiteurs de chomage" comme certains disent /...
Il ya ceux qui profitent du chomage affalé sur leur canapé en train de regarder des émissions débiles a la télé puis qui ralent contre le systéme ....
et il y a ceux qui profitent du chomage pouce levé sur le bord des routes en train de penser a tout ce que leur voyage va leur apporter en ouverture d 'esprit, esprit d 'initiatives pi toute ...
Mon coeur balance trés fort pour une cathégorie ...Devinez laquelle ????
Je me fais là l 'avocat du diable certes ...mais les profiteurs pour moi sont ceux qui ont toute leur vie profiter des aides de l 'état sans voir au dessus de leur épaule ...
belle journéé ou soirée ...
Il ya ceux qui profitent du chomage affalé sur leur canapé en train de regarder des émissions débiles a la télé puis qui ralent contre le systéme ....
et il y a ceux qui profitent du chomage pouce levé sur le bord des routes en train de penser a tout ce que leur voyage va leur apporter en ouverture d 'esprit, esprit d 'initiatives pi toute ...
Mon coeur balance trés fort pour une cathégorie ...Devinez laquelle ????
Je me fais là l 'avocat du diable certes ...mais les profiteurs pour moi sont ceux qui ont toute leur vie profiter des aides de l 'état sans voir au dessus de leur épaule ...
belle journéé ou soirée ...
Il n'y a pour moi qu'une seule catégorie de chomeurs qui profitent (sur leur canapés où sur les routes, celà ne change rien à l'escroquerie).
Les autres chomeurs sont malheureusement des gens qui dans la plupart des cas sont dans une grande détresse, et qui ne souhaitent qu'une chose: retrouver un emploi le plus vite possible, afin d'être autonomes et ne plus être en charge de la société, alors que tu oublies que ceux du premier cas vivent ou voyagent aux frais de ceux qui travaillent eux pour se payer des vacances.
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
J 'oublie rien ( je suis réaliste pas utopiste ) JE CONSTATE ...
Puis je souris je savais que ce message allait avoir de pareils retours 😉
Puis je souris je savais que ce message allait avoir de pareils retours 😉
A 20 ans, au lieu d'aller a l'uni, j'ai fait des jobs temporaires l'ètè puis je partais quelques mois..
c'etait le " paradis ", alors j'ai remis ca les années suivantes..
maintenant c'est bien moins facile, et je n'ai pas de super boulot ..
mais bien d'autres valeurs j'ai trouvées..surtout en Asie ..
ouais en ce moment vue les conditions sclérosés de notre economie nationle du sacage planétaire😠, je descents les 1km qui separe l' habitation de notre grotte au fond des bois, avec des amis de passage on amenage l'endroit, on se fait une grillade et on voyage avec l'imaginaire de nos recits d'aventure.....nous devenons des nomades virtuel puis pour aller plus loin j'echange avec une amie Japonaise notre differente culturelle via l'ordi ma concience appaissée ....je dellaisse pour l'instant le voyage pur et dur je ne me sent pas non plus les voyages sur la lune donc fric ou pas invente ton voyage........
paix et amour pour tous sont les premices de la generosité
Je ne défenderai pas des gens qui profitent du systeme. Je confirme le terme "abruti".
Car si on profite du chomage pour découvrir des choses et les mettre à profit pour travailler en France alors oui le chomage est bien utilisé.
Mais si on ne l'utilise que pour vivre comme un expat dans un pays où la vie coute pas cher, alors c'est du vol, ni plus ni moins.
Bref, on s'est bien éloigné du sujet je pense, mea culpa....😉
Car si on profite du chomage pour découvrir des choses et les mettre à profit pour travailler en France alors oui le chomage est bien utilisé.
Mais si on ne l'utilise que pour vivre comme un expat dans un pays où la vie coute pas cher, alors c'est du vol, ni plus ni moins.
Bref, on s'est bien éloigné du sujet je pense, mea culpa....😉
Pas d'accord. Dans tous les cas, c'est du vol.
Les allocations chômage sont là pour pallier à un problème : le chômage. y'a pas à discuter plus. Les allocations chômage permettent de vivre pendant la période de recherche d'emploi.
A partir du moment où on est pas en recherche d'emploi, il n'y pas de raison de toucher le chômage.
Sans vouloir te vexer, je trouve ridicule qu'on puisse juger utile ou pas utile la façon dont est utilisé l'argent détourné.
Mais je crois que le sujet a été longuement débattu sur une autre discussion....
Les allocations chômage sont là pour pallier à un problème : le chômage. y'a pas à discuter plus. Les allocations chômage permettent de vivre pendant la période de recherche d'emploi.
A partir du moment où on est pas en recherche d'emploi, il n'y pas de raison de toucher le chômage.
Sans vouloir te vexer, je trouve ridicule qu'on puisse juger utile ou pas utile la façon dont est utilisé l'argent détourné.
Mais je crois que le sujet a été longuement débattu sur une autre discussion....
La chance n'est pas le résultat du hasard : ce sont nos propres choix qui créent notre chance.
Le plus simple c'est de commencer par bosser a l'etranger pdt l'ete...3-4 mois, ca donne deja bien le gout 🙂.
Les grds classiques : Espagne, Angleterre, Etats Unis, Irlande...Le tout c'est de se lancer, apres ca tu trouveras toujours une solution pour bouger. En plus tu n'as que 18 ans, donc tes choix professionnels peuvent encore etre influences par ton desir de bouger (et la c'est du vecu).
fany
Mieux vaut etre belle et rebelle que moche et re-moche
Mieux vaut etre belle et rebelle que moche et re-moche
tout le monde est la a raler contre les chomeurs qui se la coulent douce a l etranger, mais il faut savoir quand meme que le deficit de la france vient plus de la corruption et de l argent gaspille que des chomeurs.
l etat est pour sur le 1er escroc, et que certains petits poissons grapillent quelques miettes ma foi, meme si ce st malhonnete ca ne me derange pas.
mais l etat est malin, il montre du doigt les chomeurs pour faire oublier que ce st lui le plus grand voleur.
diviser pour mieux regner, c etait deja d actualite a l epoque des romains.
je precise que je n ai jamais touche un centime des assedics et pense que je n en toucherai jamais...
Pas d'accord. Dans tous les cas, c'est du vol.
Les allocations chômage sont là pour pallier à un problème : le chômage. y'a pas à discuter plus. Les allocations chômage permettent de vivre pendant la période de recherche d'emploi.
A partir du moment où on est pas en recherche d'emploi, il n'y pas de raison de toucher le chômage.
Sans vouloir te vexer, je trouve ridicule qu'on puisse juger utile ou pas utile la façon dont est utilisé l'argent détourné.
Mais je crois que le sujet a été longuement débattu sur une autre discussion....
Du vol? tu va un peu fort là!
il me semble que pour pouvoir toucher les assedic il faut avoir cotisé non? et lorsque tu parles d'argent détourné, laisse moi rire... j'ai un pote qui vient de se faire virer (tout comme 140 collègues) pour sois disant raison économique, la boite qui la lourdé (grosse boite de télécom) fait des bénéfices monstre avec des résultat d'exploitation de prés de 2 milliard d'euros et à passé un accord avec le gouvernement français qui lui à octroyer 3, 8 milliards d'euros en crédit d'impôt en échange de 2100 emplois à créer...
faut arrêter de faire culpabiliser les chômeurs et comme le dis très bien steph 972 pour empêcher un chômeur de voyager offrons lui un travail!
Les allocations chômage sont là pour pallier à un problème : le chômage. y'a pas à discuter plus. Les allocations chômage permettent de vivre pendant la période de recherche d'emploi.
A partir du moment où on est pas en recherche d'emploi, il n'y pas de raison de toucher le chômage.
Sans vouloir te vexer, je trouve ridicule qu'on puisse juger utile ou pas utile la façon dont est utilisé l'argent détourné.
Mais je crois que le sujet a été longuement débattu sur une autre discussion....
Du vol? tu va un peu fort là!
il me semble que pour pouvoir toucher les assedic il faut avoir cotisé non? et lorsque tu parles d'argent détourné, laisse moi rire... j'ai un pote qui vient de se faire virer (tout comme 140 collègues) pour sois disant raison économique, la boite qui la lourdé (grosse boite de télécom) fait des bénéfices monstre avec des résultat d'exploitation de prés de 2 milliard d'euros et à passé un accord avec le gouvernement français qui lui à octroyer 3, 8 milliards d'euros en crédit d'impôt en échange de 2100 emplois à créer...
faut arrêter de faire culpabiliser les chômeurs et comme le dis très bien steph 972 pour empêcher un chômeur de voyager offrons lui un travail!
Anba latè pa ni plézi !
A la condition que le chomeur cherche un travail.....et ne pense pas qu'à voyager aux frais de l'etat...je réitère, c'est parfois du vol....
Evidemment que tout le monde ne choisit pas d'etre chomeur, et que c'est loin d'etre une situation facile, mais pour ceux qui en usent comme un moyen de se la couler douce au soleil, alors là je dis NON !!!
L'Etat n'est pas un citron que l'on peut presser indéfiniment....🏴☠️
Evidemment que tout le monde ne choisit pas d'etre chomeur, et que c'est loin d'etre une situation facile, mais pour ceux qui en usent comme un moyen de se la couler douce au soleil, alors là je dis NON !!!
L'Etat n'est pas un citron que l'on peut presser indéfiniment....🏴☠️
Le terme de vol n'est toujours pas le bon.....
Si le gars touche les assedic, c'est qu'il a bossé, donc cotisé, c'est donc un droit. De plus, tu etais toi même il y a quelques temps en Thailande, pourquoi faire ? travail ? Stage ? Et que vas tu faire prochainement ? rester ttravailler en France ou partir si tu en as l'occas travailler a l'etranger ? Dans ce cas, comptes tu rembourser l'etat pour l'education scolaire qu'il t'a fourni ?
Si le gars touche les assedic, c'est qu'il a bossé, donc cotisé, c'est donc un droit. De plus, tu etais toi même il y a quelques temps en Thailande, pourquoi faire ? travail ? Stage ? Et que vas tu faire prochainement ? rester ttravailler en France ou partir si tu en as l'occas travailler a l'etranger ? Dans ce cas, comptes tu rembourser l'etat pour l'education scolaire qu'il t'a fourni ?
Prendre l’État-voleur, le chomeur-arnaqueur ou encore la boîte-louche qui nous engage, comme modèles ou exemples à suivre pour boucler son budget voyage? Quelle époque!
Je vole l’impôt Tu voles l’assedic Il vole le chômage Nous volons L’État Vous volez le patron Ils veulent tous voler
Coudonc! Ya en tu qui travaillent en France?
Liberté de voler Égalité dans l’arnaque Fraternité chez les loustics
Éclaires-moi Marianne de tes lumières…. françaises.
DeCléricy.
Je vole l’impôt Tu voles l’assedic Il vole le chômage Nous volons L’État Vous volez le patron Ils veulent tous voler
Coudonc! Ya en tu qui travaillent en France?
Liberté de voler Égalité dans l’arnaque Fraternité chez les loustics
Éclaires-moi Marianne de tes lumières…. françaises.
DeCléricy.
J’en appelle à vous ô Muses
Où tant ma vie passe et s’use
Qu’encore et toujours j’aime
Mes soeurs Galère et Bohème
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Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?