On vient de faire l'ascension du Misti avec une des nombreuses agences d'Arequipa qui la propose (continental expedition, Jerusalen 302, 45 USD pp).
En gros, ça se déroule sur 2 jours, le 1er jour consistant en une marche sans trop de difficultés vers le campement à 4600m, et le 2ème jour, l'ascension (jusqu'à 5800m - environ 5h), la redescente et le retour sur Arequipa.
Notre coup de geule, c'est sur la manière dont c'est organisé, quelque soit l'agence, bonne ou mauvaise. Les guides font démarrer l'ascension du 2ème jour à 2H DU MAT ce qui est une ABSURDITE. Primo, on marche dans le noir, ce qui est vachement intéressant. Segundo, il fait TRES froid. Tertio : noir+froid+altitude = cocktail sympathique de difficultés. La raison officielle à cela est que les guides calculent large pour arriver au sommet étant donné que les personnes au sein d'un même groupe peuvent marcher à des allures très différentes. Soit, mais en partant au lever du soleil vers 5h, ils auraient tout autant le temps d'arriver au sommet, et dans de bien meilleures conditions.
Moi je crois que la vraie raison c'est que les agences optimisent le transport en faisant en sorte que les 4x4 qui ammènent au pied du Misti les touristes pour la montée repartent tout de suite en ramenant à Arequipa ceux qui descendent. Résultat, elles donnent pour consigne aux guides d'être en bas dans la matinée, d'où l'ascension à 2h du mat puis la redescente au pas de charge.
Par ailleurs, en pointant le matériel qu'on devait emporter, notre agence nous a indiqué que les températures en haut ne descendaient pas en dessous de 2-3 degrés, donc plutôt agréables!! Résultat, on s'est retrouvé au camp avec un vent glacial, une température très largement négative et de la glace sur la tente! L'ascension (à 2h du mat) s'est déroulée dans ces conditions, avec un équipement pas forcément adapté.
Conclusion : les agences d'Arequipa vendent le Misti comme si elles vendaient une excursion à Disneyland. C'est une ascension qu'il faut prendre avec sérieux, en ne négligeant pas l'équipement, car il peut faire TRES FROID, contrairement à ce que vous pourrez parfois entendre. Par ailleurs, je vous conseil d'exiger de démarrer l'ascension du 2ème jour à l'heure que vous souhaitez et pas forcément en plein milieu de la nuit!
Pas fort en effet. J'espère au moins qu'ils ne vous l'ont pas dit en vous réveillant à 2 heures du matin. 😏 Pour 2 jours est-ce que ça vallait la peine de prendre une agence?
A la décharge de l'agence il faut savoir que de plus en plus de gens s'embarquent dans ce genre de randonnée sans avoir aucune expérience de la marche et au lieu de mettre 5 heures comme vous, il leur faut 8 heures ou plus pour atteindre le sommet.
les problèmes des agences qui partent avec des clients sur ce type de sommets sont divers : rythmes des clients très aléatoires; vents solaires qui se lèvent en fin de matinée et qui peuvent être très violents, le soleil qui tape violemment, etc.
En ce qui me concerne, j'adore progresser la nuit en altitude et j'ai toujours préféré grimper dans le froid que dans la canicule. De plus, j'avoue que je garde un très bon souvenir de l'ascension du Chachani, durant laquelle j'ai pu observer les lumières tremblantes et vaporeuses d'Arequipa... Innoubliable. Je peux te dire sans trop me risquer qu'une ascension du Misti avec un sommet vers 14h et une descente en plein cagnard serait très mal vècue par les 3/4 des clients... Tu ne peux pas imaginer comme le soleil tape fort à ces altitudes... Se trouver au dessus de 5800 en plein après midi n'est pas un cadeau quand le soleil est au zénith. Personnellement, j'ai raté tous les sommets andins que j'ai tenté (pour une raison ou une autre) en partant après le lever du soleil... Les guides ne voient pas que leur avantage en te réveillant à 2 ou 3h du mat' pour t'emmener au sommet du Misti... Ils savent très bien que plus leur pourcentage de "summiters" est bon, plus leur réputation suivra. Et puis, comme tu le dis, on n'est pas là pour faire du Disney... Vive l'aventure !
"Old travellers never die, they just smell that way"
Perso, j'ai trouvé que le sentier sur le Misti était assez difficile à repérer donc je n'ai pas regretté de prendre un guide. De toute façon, même si tu ne prends pas de guide, tu devras arranger ton transport en 4x4 jusqu'au pied du volcan. Au final, tu ne devrais pas économiser beaucoup par rapport au coût de l'agence qui n'est pas si élevé que ça (45 usd tout compris : transports, repas, équipement, eau).
Un autre conseil quant au Misti, ne pas surestimer ses forces, prendre son temps, et surtout être acclimaté à l'altitude... Je sais ca à l'air bête mais je n'ai pas fait tout ça et j'ai attrapé le mal des montagnes au camp de base, sacré souvenir...🤪 Par contre la vue d'Arequipa la nuit de cette hauteur est proprement hallucinante, malade ou pas...😛
Salut, je me permet de répondre à ton coup de gueule. Je comprend ta réaction, ca parait pas agréable de se lever si tot pour grimper, mais y'a de bonnes raisons à cela.
Le truc c'est que tu n'est pas sur un 3000m, là c'est du 6000 m ou presque, je sais pas très bien si tu te rend compte mais c'est haut, très haut et le problème avec ses hauteurs c'est que tu as souvent des vents solaires qui soufflent terriblement fort et qui ne font que tu ralentir, te fatiguer et accentuer le froid. Et ces vents solaires par definition tu ne les as pas de nuit.
Après y'a d'autres raisons qui peuvent se rajouter comme la chaleur, le temps d'ascension et de descente..., mais c'est la principale.
Tu ne verras jamais dans la très haute montagne himalayenne des expé partir de jour. Pour des raisons de sécurité.
Voilà c'etait juste pour recadrer les choses.
Ciao
Mano
"Faites que vos rêves dévorent votre vie avant que votre vie ne dévore vos rêves" Saint Exupéry
D'accord avec ce qui s'est dit plus haut ! La montagne ne se pratique pas en général à l'heure du thé...Sur le MISTI, le risque glace (crevasse...) ne semble pas très concret (je l'ai sous les yeux en ce moment 😎...) mais l'altitude, le soleil, les risques de retard légitiment largement ce départ si matinal.
Le soleil se levant par ailleurs vers 5 ou 6h du mat', la marche dans le noir n'est finalement pas si longue et je suis sûr que tu dois garder des souvenirs impérissables de l'aube sur les Andes !!!
Celui qui tourne en rond...il a son passé devant lui !
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Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips.
Here are my questions:
- Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages)
- I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share!
Yann
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography.
I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600.
I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
