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La Death Valley est-elle praticable à moto fin mai/début juin où fait-il déjà trop chaud ?
La Death Valley en Harley en mai
by DpmSuisse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour François,
Oui, il fera chaud à Death Valley en mai, juin. Ballade possible à condition d'avoir des réserves d'eau et de porter des vêtements (T's) à manches longues et pantalon. Le mieux est aussi de consulter la météo avant de te lancer surtout si tu ne supportes pas la chaleur.
Janine
Google mon ami.
Mai ; 23 moyenne mini à 38 moyenne max.
Ça m'apparaît correcte.
J'y serai le 21 avril en voiture.
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/California/Places/death-valley-temperatures-by-month-average.php
J'y serai le 21 avril en voiture.
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/California/Places/death-valley-temperatures-by-month-average.php
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
J'ai traversé Death Valley en Harley Davidson refroidi à l'air fin juin début juillet en 2013, il y faisait effectivement très chaud (104 F) mais sec. Avec quelques précautions, nous n'avons pas souffert de cette chaleur et avons apprécié la grande beauté de ce désert. La moto a aussi bien résisté à cette chaleur. Les précautions: moto en excellente condition, beaucoup d'eau, manches longues mais tissus léger, pantalon longs, gants, casque avec visière sinon bonne crème pour le visage. Mais, effectivement, informes toi de la météo avant de t'y aventurer, le mercure peut y grimper occasionnellement dans les 120F
Je suis aussi motard, j'habite pas très loin de la Vallée de la Mort et la Vallée de la Mort fin Mai debut Juin en moto, ça va être limite. Personnellement en moto j'irai pas.
A savoir qu'il peut non seulement y faire très chaud mais surtout, qu'il n'y a pas d'ombre. Pour te donner une idée, une année j'y avais été fin Mars, il faisait deja 97F.
A savoir qu'il peut non seulement y faire très chaud mais surtout, qu'il n'y a pas d'ombre. Pour te donner une idée, une année j'y avais été fin Mars, il faisait deja 97F.
Merci à tous pour vos réponses.
Nous allons partir le 23 mai de Los Angeles pour un boucle de 14 jours dans les parcs autour du Grand Canyon et nous avons prévu la Death Valley pour la fin, mais nous n'avons pas réservé d'hôtels pour la fin de notre trip, justement à cause des conditions de fortes chaleurs que nous risquions de trouver dans la DV. Donc on improvisera pour les derniers jours, entre Las Vegas et Los Angeles.
Nous allons partir le 23 mai de Los Angeles pour un boucle de 14 jours dans les parcs autour du Grand Canyon et nous avons prévu la Death Valley pour la fin, mais nous n'avons pas réservé d'hôtels pour la fin de notre trip, justement à cause des conditions de fortes chaleurs que nous risquions de trouver dans la DV. Donc on improvisera pour les derniers jours, entre Las Vegas et Los Angeles.
Le 23 avril il a fait 36C .
Planifiez vos visites et route car certaines sont fermées suite à des inondations en automne. Comme le Scotty's Castel qui n'est pas accessible et une partie de la route 178 au sud. Si vous entrez par la route 190, la plus populaire je crois, vous aurez accès à tout.
Planifiez vos visites et route car certaines sont fermées suite à des inondations en automne. Comme le Scotty's Castel qui n'est pas accessible et une partie de la route 178 au sud. Si vous entrez par la route 190, la plus populaire je crois, vous aurez accès à tout.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
A ne pas negliger en moto, ça va être les altitudes.
D'un coté on a les parcs de l'Arizona et de l'Utah ou les altitudes sont comprises entre 2000 et 3000 mètres et de l'autre on a la Vallée de la Mort où les altitudes sont negatives (-85 mètres au plus bas).
C'est la grosse raison pour laquelle les parcs sont tout a fait "visitables" en moto quasi toute l'année (même l'été) et que la Vallée de la Mort, puisse être un vrai problème certaines années à partir de Mai.
C'est la grosse raison pour laquelle les parcs sont tout a fait "visitables" en moto quasi toute l'année (même l'été) et que la Vallée de la Mort, puisse être un vrai problème certaines années à partir de Mai.
🙂Je l'ai traversé deux fois en moto, en septembre et en octobre. Curieusement, il y faisait 45 C en octobre et 37 C en septembre. À 37 C, je me suis arrêté plusieurs fois pour faire de la photo mais c'est tout de même trop chaud pour s'hasarder loin de la moto. À 45 C, on sent le plein effet de four à convection bien typique de cet endroit. Juste en retirant les gants, on sent la chaleur immédiatement alors il faut constamment circuler.
Précaution si on loue un véhicule : plusieurs cies d'assurance ne couvriront pas des éventualités si on roule dans la Vallée de la Mort durant les mois chauds.
Autre considération : Si ce n'est que pour traverser dans un trajet Vegas-San Francisco, il peut-être sensé de passer par Beatty au Nevada pour couper le temps passé dans la fournaise. Autrement, rouler dans la Vallée très tôt le matin avant que la grande chaleur ne s'empare de l'endroit.
Et oui des vêtements longs et le port du casque sont de très loin préférables pour protéger de la chaleur et du soleil. Prendre note qu'en moto, l'ennemi n'est pas la chaleur autant que le vent désséchant. Lui, sa présence est moins évidente que la chaleur mais il vous déshydrate en un rien de temps et c'est là que le véritable danger commence. Transporter du liquide en bonne quantité est essentielle. Un truc : recycler des bouteilles d'eau avec de l'eau potable et faire geler la veille à l'hôtel. Tout à fait paradisiaque lorsque consommée dans la Vallée le lendemain.
Arme secrète : Ça c'est ma meilleure défense et mon vêtement le plus indispensable lorsque je roule dans les endroits les plus chauds (Arizona, Vallée de la Mort, déserts de Mojave et Sonora, Floride....) et c'est peu dispendieux : une veste réfrigérante !!
http://www.techniche-intl.com/catalogus/evaporative-cooling.html
Précaution si on loue un véhicule : plusieurs cies d'assurance ne couvriront pas des éventualités si on roule dans la Vallée de la Mort durant les mois chauds.
Autre considération : Si ce n'est que pour traverser dans un trajet Vegas-San Francisco, il peut-être sensé de passer par Beatty au Nevada pour couper le temps passé dans la fournaise. Autrement, rouler dans la Vallée très tôt le matin avant que la grande chaleur ne s'empare de l'endroit.
Et oui des vêtements longs et le port du casque sont de très loin préférables pour protéger de la chaleur et du soleil. Prendre note qu'en moto, l'ennemi n'est pas la chaleur autant que le vent désséchant. Lui, sa présence est moins évidente que la chaleur mais il vous déshydrate en un rien de temps et c'est là que le véritable danger commence. Transporter du liquide en bonne quantité est essentielle. Un truc : recycler des bouteilles d'eau avec de l'eau potable et faire geler la veille à l'hôtel. Tout à fait paradisiaque lorsque consommée dans la Vallée le lendemain.
Arme secrète : Ça c'est ma meilleure défense et mon vêtement le plus indispensable lorsque je roule dans les endroits les plus chauds (Arizona, Vallée de la Mort, déserts de Mojave et Sonora, Floride....) et c'est peu dispendieux : une veste réfrigérante !!
http://www.techniche-intl.com/catalogus/evaporative-cooling.html
🙂J'étais dans la région de la VDM le 2 juillet dernier avec mon fils sur le siège arrière de la moto. Pour son premier voyage à moto et son premier séjour dans l'ouest, nous étions en circuit Vancouver-San Diego. Je lui ai offert l'option d'un détour à Las Vegas. Pour y arriver, il fallait traverser la VDM. Il y faisait plus de 45 C le jour voire même 48 C. Non là c'est trop à moto ! Une option aurait été de traverser la nuit alors que le mercure est à 31 C.
Quoique saugrenue comme idée, la date prévue comportait une pleine lune et quelques recherches d'images sur le net m'ont permis de découvrir des vues absolument incroyables lorsque cela se produit avec un décor spectral. Les astronomes amateurs sont d'ailleurs friands de la VDM.
L'autre question plus sensible aux motards était de savoir quels sont les dangers d'y circuler la nuit, notamment au niveau de la faune. On pourrait croire qu'il n'y a rien mais tout de même....! Par hasard, suis tombé sur un lien Facebook du Parc National lui-même et j'y ai adressé mes questions au cas où, sans véritable espoir qu'on me répondrait ! Eh bien, ils m'ont répondu en quelques heures ! On m'avertissait que nous pourrions apercevoir quelques ânes (burros) plus en altitude mais qu'ils n'avaient pas été signalés cette année. Beaucoup plus fréquents seraient les lapins au bord de la route mais pas connus pour causer des incidents. Pour le reste, il faut surveiller les débris de pneus. Le répondant me mentionnait qu'il était fréquent que des motards traversent la nuit et qu'il serait intéressant de me renseigner du côté de Lone Pine si un groupe était en train de se former à cet effet.
J'anticipais avec anxiété de vivre l'expérience. Mais mon fils a pris la décision de retourner vers la côte ! La partie n'est que remise.
Quoique saugrenue comme idée, la date prévue comportait une pleine lune et quelques recherches d'images sur le net m'ont permis de découvrir des vues absolument incroyables lorsque cela se produit avec un décor spectral. Les astronomes amateurs sont d'ailleurs friands de la VDM.
L'autre question plus sensible aux motards était de savoir quels sont les dangers d'y circuler la nuit, notamment au niveau de la faune. On pourrait croire qu'il n'y a rien mais tout de même....! Par hasard, suis tombé sur un lien Facebook du Parc National lui-même et j'y ai adressé mes questions au cas où, sans véritable espoir qu'on me répondrait ! Eh bien, ils m'ont répondu en quelques heures ! On m'avertissait que nous pourrions apercevoir quelques ânes (burros) plus en altitude mais qu'ils n'avaient pas été signalés cette année. Beaucoup plus fréquents seraient les lapins au bord de la route mais pas connus pour causer des incidents. Pour le reste, il faut surveiller les débris de pneus. Le répondant me mentionnait qu'il était fréquent que des motards traversent la nuit et qu'il serait intéressant de me renseigner du côté de Lone Pine si un groupe était en train de se former à cet effet.
J'anticipais avec anxiété de vivre l'expérience. Mais mon fils a pris la décision de retourner vers la côte ! La partie n'est que remise.
bonjour,
nous avons eu le même "problème" à la fin de notre trip de 2 semaines fin mai/début juin : 48° annoncé dans la DV ! donc nous avons renoncé à la traverser à moto et avons filés directement sur Pasadena depuis Vegas pour notre dernière nuit avant le retour en Suisse. Ce sera aussi pour la prochaine fois ...
nous avons eu le même "problème" à la fin de notre trip de 2 semaines fin mai/début juin : 48° annoncé dans la DV ! donc nous avons renoncé à la traverser à moto et avons filés directement sur Pasadena depuis Vegas pour notre dernière nuit avant le retour en Suisse. Ce sera aussi pour la prochaine fois ...
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I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
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Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
Hi there,
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
Hi everyone,
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!
Hi there!
I’m currently planning a 9-day route starting from Marrakech with my husband. We land on the morning of June 13th—so soon! 😊
And we’re flying back to France on June 21st at 9 PM!
We’ve rented two Royal Enfield 450s.
This is our first motorcycle trip in Morocco. I got my license two years ago with the dream of taking this kind of trip, and here we are! ✌️😍
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
Hey there, fellow riders,
I’m really keen on a motorcycle trip to Morocco, specifically the Middle Atlas. Does anyone have any info or tips on this idea? Planning to go in September or October...
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Christine