Descente du Mékong en pirogue
by Shivarez
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Un pote et moi même avons decidé de descendre le Mékong en pirogue.
Lui sait bien navigué mais moi pas trop....Ca ira je pense car j'apprend vite.
Mes questions sont les suivantes:
Nous partons du Laos pour arriver dans le Delta du Mékong et nous savons qu'il y a des passages difficiles à franchir. Donc comment les connaitres? comment se navigue le mékong?
En fait toute les personne pouvant nous aider dans notre démarche sera la bienvennue....
Merci d'avance pour l'interet que vous porterez a ce mail.....
Merci à tous
je n'ai jamais rencontre d'hommes si ignorant qu'il n'eut quelque chose a m'apprendre.
En combien de temps ? ...En quelle saison ? ...sur la totalite du trajet?...Avec quel budget... ? Le passage en douane envisagé ...? Quelle logitique?... A bientot!
Roger
On pensait le faire en deux mois a peu près.
Hors mousson pour la saison c'est a dire avant Juin...
Pas sur la totalité du trajet car certaine partie ne sont pas navigable mais pour le reste on éspere pouvoir faire un maximum en pirogue
Le budget sera étudier par nos soins au préalable
Le passage de douane est effectivement envisagé
Voila pour les quelques info supplémentaires...
Merci de ton intéret a bientot
je n'ai jamais rencontre d'hommes si ignorant qu'il n'eut quelque chose a m'apprendre.
Salut,
Y'a 3 ou 4 ans, j'ai rencontré deux américains qui avaient acheté une pirogue type "long tail" à Houey Xaï (Laos), dans le but de descendre jusqu'au delta.
Aux Si Phan Done (chutes et rapides totalement infranchissables sur plus de 10 kilomètres, à l'extrême sud du Laos) ils n'ont trouvé personne pour transporter l'embarcation par voie de terre ; alors ils ont abandonné là et ont revendu le bateau.
Ca me semblait évident mais ils m'ont quand même avoué que la portion Vientiane/Si Phan Done fut terriblement longue, monotone et ennuyeuse. Pour sûr : là c'est déjà un fleuve très large, sans une montagne aux abords, sans une colline, avec donc un seul mince trait vert ou marron pour seul paysage durant d'interminables journées...
C'est sûr, en n'empruntant que cette voie, on manque tout l'arrière pays montagneux du Laos...
A + 321
Y'a 3 ou 4 ans, j'ai rencontré deux américains qui avaient acheté une pirogue type "long tail" à Houey Xaï (Laos), dans le but de descendre jusqu'au delta.
Aux Si Phan Done (chutes et rapides totalement infranchissables sur plus de 10 kilomètres, à l'extrême sud du Laos) ils n'ont trouvé personne pour transporter l'embarcation par voie de terre ; alors ils ont abandonné là et ont revendu le bateau.
Ca me semblait évident mais ils m'ont quand même avoué que la portion Vientiane/Si Phan Done fut terriblement longue, monotone et ennuyeuse. Pour sûr : là c'est déjà un fleuve très large, sans une montagne aux abords, sans une colline, avec donc un seul mince trait vert ou marron pour seul paysage durant d'interminables journées...
C'est sûr, en n'empruntant que cette voie, on manque tout l'arrière pays montagneux du Laos...
A + 321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Je rejoins d 'instinct l'avis qui precede...les chutes de don khone sont infranchissables...
le mekong genere une puissance incroyable...meme en avril, mai...
Apparement pas d'autorisation speciale au laos ...et au cambodge...?
Les bateaux a moteur peuvent etre en difficultes en basses eaux entre stung treng et kratie, les trous d'eaux peuvent etre de 50 m avec les tourbillons que cela engendre et a 100 m du meme endroit des rochers affleurants!
Fetes des eaux, cette annee à Phnom Penh...un mekong visuellement tranquille (mais fort debit)...une pirogue malaise devisse un heurt leger avec une barge à l'arret bilan plusieurs morts...
Les parties tranquilles :quel interet...
A mon avis un reperage prealable s'impose...et voir si les autorisations sont possibles en prealable...
A+
le mekong genere une puissance incroyable...meme en avril, mai...
Apparement pas d'autorisation speciale au laos ...et au cambodge...?
Les bateaux a moteur peuvent etre en difficultes en basses eaux entre stung treng et kratie, les trous d'eaux peuvent etre de 50 m avec les tourbillons que cela engendre et a 100 m du meme endroit des rochers affleurants!
Fetes des eaux, cette annee à Phnom Penh...un mekong visuellement tranquille (mais fort debit)...une pirogue malaise devisse un heurt leger avec une barge à l'arret bilan plusieurs morts...
Les parties tranquilles :quel interet...
A mon avis un reperage prealable s'impose...et voir si les autorisations sont possibles en prealable...
A+
Roger
Nos préparatif avance bien mais c'est vrai qu'il perdure un problème difficilement résolvable...En effet il nous est très compliqué de trouver des info concernant la navigation sur le mékong. Nous savons que ce dernier génère des trous d'eau. Ces trous d'eau peuvent-ils renverser notre canoë? Nous pensions faire deux caissons de mousse polyoréthane (expensive) pour le rendre insubmersible. Est-ce sufisant? Sur internet il nous est très difficile de nous renseigner car les infos sont très vagues (ouhaou le petit jeu de mot....) et ils nous faudrait des supports plus techniques. Donc si quelqun peut nous venir en aide sur ce sujet vous êtes le bienvennues. D'ailleurs merci au personne qui nous ont aidé sur ce forum jusque là....Merci beaucoup.
je n'ai jamais rencontre d'hommes si ignorant qu'il n'eut quelque chose a m'apprendre.
Bonjour,
Mon compagnon et moi partons en Thaïlande en Juin pendant 3 semaines. Cette discussion m'intéresse car c'est celle qui se rapproche le plus de mes questions. En effet, j'aimerais faire le Mékong, en pirogue, de Chiang Khon près de Chiang rai, à Chiang Khan en passant par Luang Prabang. J'ai très peu d'informations pour la portion Luang Pradang - Chiang Khan et j'ai cru comprendre que ça serait difficile et sans grand intérêt... J'aimerais quand même confirmation et surtout savoir si une partie est faisable en pirogue ? Mes principales questions sont : - Est il possible de faire Chiang Khon à LP en pirogue à deux ? - Peut on acheter sur place une pirogue et à quel prix (environ) ? La louer éventuellement ? - La saison de juin est elle une bonne saison pour traverser le Mékong ? - Y a t'il de nombreux villages ou villes où on peut s'arrêter en cas de problèmes ou pour manger par exemple ?
Je sais que cela paraît très difficile et peu réalisable mais j'aimerais avoir votre expérience de votre voyage qui date de 5 ans maintenant. Merci d'avance pour vos réponses. ^^
Sarah
Mon compagnon et moi partons en Thaïlande en Juin pendant 3 semaines. Cette discussion m'intéresse car c'est celle qui se rapproche le plus de mes questions. En effet, j'aimerais faire le Mékong, en pirogue, de Chiang Khon près de Chiang rai, à Chiang Khan en passant par Luang Prabang. J'ai très peu d'informations pour la portion Luang Pradang - Chiang Khan et j'ai cru comprendre que ça serait difficile et sans grand intérêt... J'aimerais quand même confirmation et surtout savoir si une partie est faisable en pirogue ? Mes principales questions sont : - Est il possible de faire Chiang Khon à LP en pirogue à deux ? - Peut on acheter sur place une pirogue et à quel prix (environ) ? La louer éventuellement ? - La saison de juin est elle une bonne saison pour traverser le Mékong ? - Y a t'il de nombreux villages ou villes où on peut s'arrêter en cas de problèmes ou pour manger par exemple ?
Je sais que cela paraît très difficile et peu réalisable mais j'aimerais avoir votre expérience de votre voyage qui date de 5 ans maintenant. Merci d'avance pour vos réponses. ^^
Sarah
Sarah
Salut
A mon avis ça n'a pas grand intérêt et ça risque d'être très vite monotone.. J'ai remonté avec des locaux la Nam Ou en amont de Phongsally ( quelques heures seulement) tout au nord du Laos puis redescendu ( tjs la Nam Ou) jusqu'à Nong Khiaw (sur 3 jours avec des arrêts) il y a quelques passages un peu rapides à savoir négocier et de beaux paysages Karstiques à Muang Kua..mais ce qui me semble plus intéressant serait de pouvoir remonter plus en amont de Phongsally ( direction frontière Chinoise) sur 1 jour ou 2( en kayak par exemple)
A mon avis ça n'a pas grand intérêt et ça risque d'être très vite monotone.. J'ai remonté avec des locaux la Nam Ou en amont de Phongsally ( quelques heures seulement) tout au nord du Laos puis redescendu ( tjs la Nam Ou) jusqu'à Nong Khiaw (sur 3 jours avec des arrêts) il y a quelques passages un peu rapides à savoir négocier et de beaux paysages Karstiques à Muang Kua..mais ce qui me semble plus intéressant serait de pouvoir remonter plus en amont de Phongsally ( direction frontière Chinoise) sur 1 jour ou 2( en kayak par exemple)
J'aimerais quand même confirmation et surtout savoir si une partie est faisable en pirogue ?
Sarah
salut une pirogue c'est lourdingue et il faut savoir la manoeuvrer... il y avait deux membres de ce forum qui voulait descendre une rivière au Nicaragua en pirogue, je leur ai suggéré de prendre un gonflable genre Gumotex c'est ce qu'ils ont fait finalement Et puis une pirogue a beaucoup d'inertie, du tirant d'eau, il faut qu'elle glisse parfaitement sur l'eau.. ceci dit ce n'est pas impossible.. mais comme le mentionne les témoignages précédents, et bien que ne connaissant pas le Mékong, il faut s'attendre à des "plats" c.a.d. des zones où il y peu de courant et où il faut pagayer énormément pour avancer
salut une pirogue c'est lourdingue et il faut savoir la manoeuvrer... il y avait deux membres de ce forum qui voulait descendre une rivière au Nicaragua en pirogue, je leur ai suggéré de prendre un gonflable genre Gumotex c'est ce qu'ils ont fait finalement Et puis une pirogue a beaucoup d'inertie, du tirant d'eau, il faut qu'elle glisse parfaitement sur l'eau.. ceci dit ce n'est pas impossible.. mais comme le mentionne les témoignages précédents, et bien que ne connaissant pas le Mékong, il faut s'attendre à des "plats" c.a.d. des zones où il y peu de courant et où il faut pagayer énormément pour avancer
Merci beaucoup Djalma et Mathews ! :)
Je vais du coup ne pas prendre trop de risque et changer mon programme ^^. C'était un pari un peu fou mais pas impossible. Du coup jvais attendre de connaître un peu mieux le pays et la région. En tout cas c'est gentil de m'avoir répondu aussi vite et l'expérience des autres routards m'est toujours d'une grande aide.
Sarah
Rien n'est impossible mais je ne sais pas bien ce que tu appelles pirogue.. si c'est une de celles utilisées par les locaux pour les marchandises et le transport des passagers?
Elles sont lourdes , motorisées, bien sûr, sinon il faudrait une à 2 semaines pour faire ce qui est fait en 1 ou 2 jours... Ensuite si tu comptes acheter une de ces pirogues?!! ça risque de te coûter très cher!!
A mon avis ce qui est intéressant c'est d'emporter un kayak gonflable ( il en existe de très légers occupant une fois plié un volume réduit) et faire un portion d'un affluent du Mékong comme la Nam Ou par exemple.. Mais faut être bon pagayeur ( et aussi kayakiste aguerri!) car sinon on se fatigue vite et de plus là où il n'y a pas de rapides ( majorité du parcours) c'est plutot monotone! et là où il y a des rapides ya aussi des risques pour les novices en Kayak!!
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My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!