Merci beaucoup
Endroits en Malaisie et Sumatra non touristiques?
by Mayliscrazy
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour tout le monde, mon copain et moi partons pour 2 mois en Malaisie ( ouest ) et Sumatra, mais nous voulons surtout pas nous retrouver dans tous les endroits touristique !! est ce que vous avez des bon plans ou des iles ou des endroit où la plus part des touriste ne s'aventure pas ?
En particulier dans endroit nature, forêt tropicale, randonnée, plages sauvage, rencontre des gens ...
Merci beaucoup
Merci beaucoup
maylis ferreira
en malaisie des iles pas touristiques c est pas gagne vu qu ils ont peu d iles et qu a ma connaissance elles sont toutes assez touristiques.
a sabah c est une autre histoire mais tu n y vas pas.
a sumatra les iles de la cote ouest sont pas du tout touristiques, a l exception de l un ou l autre coin sur nias, mais c est un peu disons sportif pour y aller, et sur place les conditions sont assez basiques, faut pas etre exigeant quoi.
va faire un tour a simeulue par exemple, ou a pulau banyak...
quoique pulau banyak j ai entendu dire que de nos jours ils ont construit l un ou l autre hotel mais bon, y a 99 iles donc tu vois ce que je veux dire...
sinon y a encore d autres iles plus au sud, pagai, sipora etc., mais c est loin.
ca parle pas trop anglais dans ces coins, un peu d indonesien te sera utile, surtout que les locaux voient rarement des etrangers et qu ils vont vouloir t interviewer.
Il y a bien Tioman. C'est touristique si on veut, des plages avec bungalow et d'autres désertes mais tout le reste de l'ile est une belle jungle préservée.
Par contre ça dépends de quand vous partez, ça peut être assez pluvieux jusqu'au mois d'Avril.Si vous partez cet hiver Pulau pangkor est pas trop mal, pas flashant mais pas mal, le petit pulau giam c'est tres chouette, roches granitiques comme aux seychelles et c'est le spot de snorkeling de pangkor
Sur la péninsule il y a plein d'options pour qui cherche des coins de nature. La descente en rafting de sungai nenggiri depuis gua musang c'est sympa.
il y a une foret immense qui entoure le lac temenggor aussi, bien plus belle que la fungi forest à mon gout mais pas de touristes ca veut dire pas trop de logements, pas trop d'infrastructures pour aller la ou c'est intéressant, beaucoup de temps perdu à attendre un transport (ben oui si personne n'y va)
De plus les touristes ont la détestable habitude de visiter les plus beaux endroits.
La Malaisie n'est pas la thailande et tu verra vite que très touristique est une notion relative dans ce pays, à part aux perhentian c'est pas l'émeute, de plus une bonne partie des touristes que tu rencontre sont des touristes malaisiens(plus souvent chinois de malaisie que malais), bonne occasion pour faire connaissance avec des locaux.
Il y a trois sortes d’hommes : les vivants,
les morts, et ceux qui vont sur la mer.
Aristote (parait il)
You're welcome ;)
Il y a trois sortes d’hommes : les vivants,
les morts, et ceux qui vont sur la mer.
Aristote (parait il)
Hello
Iles peu touristiques en Malaisie péninsulaire: l'archipel de Seribuat et Pulau Babi Besar. En dehors du WE, nous étions les seuls touristes sur l'ile en semaine, en août dernier (il y a 3 resorts, mais pas de village ...).
Jolie ile mais bcp de sandflyes.
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
Salut Maylis,
Bon, tu dois faire partie de ces français que je rencontre en voyage et qui me tourne le dos quand je leur dit bonjour mais je te répond quand même (je ne suis pas rancunière d'autant que je vois que nous habitons le même département😉).
Je commence à avoir pas mal baladé sur la planète et je pense que les endroits les plus beaux sont souvent touristiques. Si tu ne veux pas croiser tes semblables tu vas là où c'est moche et inintéressant, là tu seras tranquille (mais le contact avec la population sera on ne peut plus riche, c'est l'avantage!!).
Il existe néanmoins (de plus en plus rarement malheureusement), des perles superbes et peu connues mais dans ces cas là, on évite d'en parler sur les forums publics pour ne pas justement y attirer les foules! Ce sont des tuyaux que l'on s'échange en direct et j'ai découvert de vrais joyaux auprés de certains "touristes- voyageurs" (je ne fais tjs pas la différence si ce n'est que celui qui parle se prend tjs pour un voyageur mais considère celui d'en face comme un touriste. Conclusion : on est tjs le touriste de quelqu'un!!).
Bon voyage et la bise aux Français que tu croiseras😛
Bon, tu dois faire partie de ces français que je rencontre en voyage et qui me tourne le dos quand je leur dit bonjour mais je te répond quand même (je ne suis pas rancunière d'autant que je vois que nous habitons le même département😉).
Je commence à avoir pas mal baladé sur la planète et je pense que les endroits les plus beaux sont souvent touristiques. Si tu ne veux pas croiser tes semblables tu vas là où c'est moche et inintéressant, là tu seras tranquille (mais le contact avec la population sera on ne peut plus riche, c'est l'avantage!!).
Il existe néanmoins (de plus en plus rarement malheureusement), des perles superbes et peu connues mais dans ces cas là, on évite d'en parler sur les forums publics pour ne pas justement y attirer les foules! Ce sont des tuyaux que l'on s'échange en direct et j'ai découvert de vrais joyaux auprés de certains "touristes- voyageurs" (je ne fais tjs pas la différence si ce n'est que celui qui parle se prend tjs pour un voyageur mais considère celui d'en face comme un touriste. Conclusion : on est tjs le touriste de quelqu'un!!).
Bon voyage et la bise aux Français que tu croiseras😛
Le monde est comme un miroir, si tu lui souris, il te sourit aussi!
je ne vis plus en France depuis longtemps ... et je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce que tu dis que les endroit les plus beau sont les endroit touristique, j'ai voyagé dans plus de 20 pays différents et tous mes meilleur souvenir viennent des endroit non touristique .. c'est aussi là ou tu rencontre plus les locaux .. :)
maylis ferreira
A Sumatra Grosso modo il y a des touristes à Pulau Weh, Bukit Tinggi, Berastagi, Bukit Lawang et au lac Toba. Ainsi que des surfeurs sur les iles de Nias et des Mentawai.
Ailleurs les touristes sont rares voir absents.
Mais même dans les endroits que j'ai cité le nombre de touriste est raisonnable. Tout au plus quelques dizaines de personnes en fonction de la saison. Ca peut paraitre beaucoup dans des petits villages comme Bukit Lawang ou Sabang (Pulau weh). Ailleurs ça n'a rien de gênant. Rien à voir avec le reste de l'Asie du Sud-Est.
Ca serait dommage de manquer le Lac Toba. Pour moi le plus bel endroit ou je sois allé.
En Indonésie on rencontre forcément des locaux que l'endroit soit touristique ou non (à part peut-être Bali ou les rapports sont plus formels). Après si vous voulez éviter les touristes coute que coute, il vous faudra acquérir des bases de bahasa indonesia sinon vos interactions risquent d'être limitées et vous n'aurez pas grand monde avec qui avoir des discussions intéressantes.
Mais même dans les endroits que j'ai cité le nombre de touriste est raisonnable. Tout au plus quelques dizaines de personnes en fonction de la saison. Ca peut paraitre beaucoup dans des petits villages comme Bukit Lawang ou Sabang (Pulau weh). Ailleurs ça n'a rien de gênant. Rien à voir avec le reste de l'Asie du Sud-Est.
Ca serait dommage de manquer le Lac Toba. Pour moi le plus bel endroit ou je sois allé.
En Indonésie on rencontre forcément des locaux que l'endroit soit touristique ou non (à part peut-être Bali ou les rapports sont plus formels). Après si vous voulez éviter les touristes coute que coute, il vous faudra acquérir des bases de bahasa indonesia sinon vos interactions risquent d'être limitées et vous n'aurez pas grand monde avec qui avoir des discussions intéressantes.
quoique pulau banyak j ai entendu dire que de nos jours ils ont construit l un ou l autre hotel
Non non, toujours que des homestay et autres penginapan sommaires (voire très sommaires).
Iles de rêves... desquelles je suis rentré avec le paludisme !
Le secret pour accéder à ces endroits hors sentiers battus: avoir du temps. Endroits inaccessibles aux touristes qui planifient tout au jour le jour (et c'est pour ça qu'ils sont pas touristiques évidemment).
Non non, toujours que des homestay et autres penginapan sommaires (voire très sommaires).
Iles de rêves... desquelles je suis rentré avec le paludisme !
Le secret pour accéder à ces endroits hors sentiers battus: avoir du temps. Endroits inaccessibles aux touristes qui planifient tout au jour le jour (et c'est pour ça qu'ils sont pas touristiques évidemment).
oui, banyak c est renomme aussi pour son palu mais bon, p weh y en a aussi, le fait d etre touristique ne stoppe pas les stiques🤪
t as eu du bol d en rechapper a banyak vu les infrastructures hospitalieres, parce que falciparum en 3 jours on est mort, et si on a pas les medocs avec soi et qu on est un peu loin, c est la fin...
J'ai été malade à mon retour en France, j'ai eu du bol ça n'a pas pourri mon voyage...
Bonjour,
Vous pouvez voir le site de (zainiguesthouse) c'est à 45 mn environ de KL et proche de la forêt.
Le propriétaire Zaini est guide, et emmène en trekking les touristes et les locaux. Sa femme Fred est française. Elle pourra vous donner des tuyaux pour des endroits sympas en Malaisie.
Bon séjour
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Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!