Équipement pour l'Amérique du Sud entre janvier et août?
by SilverMoon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
je serai en amerique du sud de janiver a aout (aux etudes à Montevideo de mars a juillet) et je prepare mes voyages.
Je pense profiter de l'ete austral pour voir la patagonie/terre de feu et remonter tranquillement vers l'uruguay.
Je pars avec mon sac (deva 60 de gregory), mon tapis autogonflant et ma tente (tarn2 MEC) meme si je pense passer quelques nuits en auberge.
Pour le spleeping bag je n'arrive pas à me fixer sur une idée. Je suis très frileuse. Je pensais à l'hybride -12 de MEC et finalement j'ai pris le -20 pour quelques dollars de plus mais j'hesite à le ramener parce que je le trouve beaucoup plus gros que le -12 (respectivement 14 et 11 L) mais j'ai peur d'avoir froid.
Vestimentairement parlant je pars avec un pantalon de trekking, un short, un chandail en laine de merinos long, un collant d'hiver, des tee-shirt synthetiques, deux pulls en polaire, un pantalon et un coupe vent impermeables, gants, tuque echarpe et casquette.
Mais j'ai peur d'avoir froid en patagonie.
Du coup je me disais que je ferais peut etre aussi bien d'acheter une veste en duvet chez MEC que je pourrais mettre si j'ai froid la journee, voir dans mon sleeping bag la nuit si je prend finalement l'hyride -12.
Qu'en pensez vous?
deja est ce qu'il y fait vraiment aussi froid ou une laine de merinos+polaire+coupe vent suffisent largement pour la journée et un sac -12 suffit largement pour la nuit? je trouve ca un peu leger mais je ne suis encore jamais allée la-bas...
Je vous remercie beaucoup de vos conseils!!
il est temps de vivre la vie que tu as imaginé
je ne comprends rien.J'ai l'impression de lire une brochure de Damart 😎
J'ai fait le trajet Bolivie- Ushaia en janvier fevrier et mars il y a quelques années. Je te déconseille la tente et le tapis auto-gonflant ça ne vaut vraiment pas la peine. Il y a plein de "Guest house" pas chers. Un sac de couchage peut être utile en maintes occasions mais mieux vaut le garder le plus léger possible et se vêtir un peu plus durant la nuit. -10 C c'est plus que suffisant. Pull polaire, coupe vent et tuque ainsi que de bonnes chaussures sont les items les plus importants. À force de vivre dehors ton corps développera une tolérance au froid et après quelques temps tu n'auras plus besoin de te vêtir autant. Veille surtout à avoir un sac à dos le plus léger possible et à ne pas trimbaler tout un équipement de camping qui ne te servira pas à grand chose en fin de compte.
Bon Voyage.
pyj09
merci de ta réponse !
Enfait, l'équipement de camping, je pensais m'en servir pour les randos dans les parcs (a ce que j'ai compris les reservations des refuges doivent se faire vraiment en avance et je ne prévois pas planifier mon parcours plus que ca...) et puis je suis en train de commencer à monter un projet pour découvrir la culture des gauchos donc je pense m'eloigner des circuits balisés... ca me securiserai d'avoir ma maison sur le dos mais je me trompe peut etre...
Mon budget est aussi vraiment limité.
Au niveau des sacs de couchages, je suis en train de voir que North face en fait egalement beaucoup de bons, mais surtout en duvet. Le duvet pour la patagonie c'est peut etre pas le top?
une veste en duvet a mettre en sous couche ca sera de trop?
Je n'arrive vraiment pas à me rendre compte du climat qu'il va faire meme en lisant les prévisions ...
A quoi comparerais tu cela? montreal fin octobre?
il est temps de vivre la vie que tu as imaginé
C'est toi qui prendras la décision ultime mais moi je te dis que pour l'avoir fait je n'apporterais vraiment pas de tente. Même si tu traines ta maison il te faut trouver un terrain de camping (c 'est plus difficile que de trouver un guest house) . Cela t'éloigne des services et tu te retrouves à marcher beaucoup pour rien, de plus les camping sont vraiments "basic", rien à voir avec le Québec et oublie les douches chaudes.Si tu es avec quelqu'un d'autre ça peut toujours passer mais sinon tu n'aimeras pas dormir seule dans des coins isolés. Je me rappelle de El Chaten en Argentine je dormais dans un dormitorio (dortoir) pour quelques dollars la nuit. Cétait très bien. C'est l'altitude qui fait qu'il fait froid. Parce que autrement c'est l'été austral en Amérique du sud. J'ai connu des températures vraiment chaudes (Mendoza) et aussi des -10 C (altiplano en Bolivie) et j'étais bien content de ne pas être en camping (d'ailleurs je n'ai pas vu de sites pour camper dans la majorité des endroits où je suis allé). J'ai fait tout le voyage avec un bon coupe-vent et 2 polars (un mince et un plus épais). J'avais un sac de couchage de de 1 kg testé pour -10 C. Je n'ai jamais gelé la nuit. Ton pire ennemi ne sera pas le froid mais le poids de tes bagages. Si tu vas en Patagonie c'est un peu comme aller en Gaspésie en fin d'août, il peut faire très beau mais souvent il vente et il fait un peu frais.
p.s. Tu n'as pas à planifier tes randonnées d'avance tout peut se faire sur place à 1 jour d'avis. C'est très facile de se débrouiller. Tu dors alors dans des refuges donc pas besoin de tente.
pyj09
Si tu compare la patagonie a la Gaspesie, pas de doute que je vais adorer ! J'y ai travaillé de avril a aout et c'est un vrai coup de coeur =)
Mais si je veux aller à la rencontre de gauchos dans la pampa pour partager leur vie pour un petit bout de temps, penses tu qu'ils pourraient m'heberger chez eux? je serais pas mieu de planter la tente sur leur terrain?
Je suis vraiment tanante mais je veux juste eviter tout pb sur place ^^
il est temps de vivre la vie que tu as imaginé
Je ne connais pas vraiment les gauchos. Mais ces gens ont sûrement toutes sortes de façons pour héberger d'éventuels visiteurs. Avec ta tente tu risques de faire un peu extra-terrestre. De plus advenant le cas ou tu t'y installerais avec une tente ce sera pour combien de temps? Vas-tu aimer cela? Si pour une raison ou une autre ton séjour est très court tu auras trimballer tout un attirail pour presque rien. Dis-toi que durant un long voyage on change souvent d'idée sur place et que la mobilité est très importante. Aussi la Patagonie c'est quand même assez diversifiée. Au Chili c'est la vrai nature mais dans le sud de l'Argentine c'est presque un désert de cailloux où tu ne fais que passer. À toi de voir....
pyj09
oki je pense que je ne vais pas la prendre, peut etre juste le tapis au cas ou (ca prend pas trop de place ni de poids donc ca derange moins
si du coup j'oublie l'option camping, un sleeping 5 degres ca suffit ou c'est trop juste?
il est temps de vivre la vie que tu as imaginé
C'est bien correct un 5 Celsius. Comme j'ai déjà dit il suffit de se vêtir un peu la nuit et tu vas transpirer. (J'ai déjà dormi dehors par -35 C avec un sac d'automne). Si tu n'apportes pas de tente tu n'auras pas besoin de tapis gonflant. Tu auras toujours un matelas (pas toujours des plus confortable) sur lequel tu pourras dormir. Tu vas me trouver fatiguant mais crois-en mon expérience tu vas te féliciter de ne pas avoir trop de bagages rendue là bas.
pyj09
OK
rappelle moi de te remercier quand je rentre a Montreal en septembre alors ^^ je te payerai un cafe ou un verre lol
du coup je garde le sleeping -20 comme trois ou 4 saisons pour le quebec :p
merci beaucoup d'avoir eu la patience de me repondre !!!
il est temps de vivre la vie que tu as imaginé
ouais j'aimerais bien ça que tu m'envoies un mail juste pour me dire comment ça a été et si mes conseils étaient vraiment justes.
Je pars moi-même d'ici 10 jours pour un voyage de 3 mois en Asie. Juste pour te dire je commence par un trekking de 15 jours dans les Annapurnas.
Cette fois-ci j'ai pas le choix. Je dois apporter mon sac de couchage et en plus je devrai trainer mes bottes de montagnes ( heureusement elles sont pas trop lourdes) après le trekking. Bon... faut faire avec...
Amuse-toi bien et sois prudente.
P.s. L'Amérique du sud pour moi ça été mon plus beau voyage il y a tellement à voir. Bonne chance....et profites en.
pyj09
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