Accès aux parcs nationaux de l'Ouest américain tard le soir?
by Christine30
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Après vous avoir sollicités pour l' établissement de notre itinéraire pour 15 jours entre californie et grands parcs nationaux, je tiens à remercier tous ceux qui prennent le temps de nous répondre et nous aider car ce forum est une vraie mine d' or de renseignements ...
J' ai maintenant une question pratique concernant l' accès aux parcs (gd canyon, monument valley, bryce canyon ..) . Je sais qu' il faut acheter un pass qui donne accès à tous ces sites, que ce pass ( dont j' ai oublié le nom ) coûte environ 80 dollars, il me semble qu' un seul pass suffit pour une voiture ainsi que tous ses occupants ( nous serons 4 ) ; merci de me dire si je me trompe ... ma question est la suivante : l' employée de mon agence de voyages m' a dit que si l' on arrivait tard sur les parcs nationaux les accès seraient fermés et qu' on ne pourrait plus y rentrer, or nous avons prévu de dormir à gd canyon village (donc à l' intérieur du parc si je ne m' abuse ) après une longue étape los angeles-grand canyon qui risque justement de nous faire arriver tard et comme ce sera notre 1er parc nous n' aurons peut-être pas encore pu acheter le fameux pass ... est-ce que ce pass nous permet bien de rentrer dans les parcs même tard le soir ? est- ce que nous devons l' acheter avant ( par internet ou autre ? ) quelqu'un peut-il me dire à quelle heure se couche le soleil début juillet ? et à quelle heure se lève-t-il ?
nous avons choisi l' option de dormir directement dans les parcs (GC MV BC ) afin de profiter au maximum des lever-coucher de soleil en limitant les allers et venues depuis l' hôtel étant donné que le temps nous est compté et que nous ne pourrons pas nous attarder autant que nous le voudrions si nous voulons faire un maximum de choses ...
concernant grand canyon, avec une seule nuit sur place nous envisageons d' arriver le soir si possible pour le coucher de soleil puis le lendemain matin visite des points de vue ; nous aimerions caser le survol en hélico (on m' adit que la meilleure heure est vers 10 H ) mais il paraît que parfois la brume gêne la visibilité et qu' il vaut mieux ne pas prendre le risque de réserver et payer à l' avance mais plutôt réserver juste la veille selon la météo ... qu' en pensez vous pour début juillet ?
d' autre part la nuit suivante nous serons à monument valley et donc il nous faut prévoir de faire la route l' après-midi ... est-ce réaliste de vouloir faire en un jour les points de vue +- le survol en hélico + la route vers monument valley et arriver à MV pour le coucher de soleil ?
çà fait beaucoup de questions mais çà serait bête de partir sur un projet et de s' apercevoir une fois sur place qu' on n' a pas le temps pour un truc qui nous tenait à coeur ...
merci d' avance
Bonjour,
Pour GC, vu que bien des hôtels se trouvent dans le parc, je vois pas comment ils pourraient empêcher les clients de rentrer/sortir pour aller faire dodo ?
Par contre, la guérite du Ranger où tu devras acheter le Park Pass ( c'est exactement 80$, pas d'à peu près en Amérique !!) sera surement close en nuit. Bien entendu ça n'empêche pas de passer, quitte à revenir le matin payer ta dette !
Vérifie sur le site de www.nps.gov les heures des parcs.
Pour ta "super-journée" du lendemain : ma réponse perso est "peut être" ! D'abord, le brouillard du matin ?? perso, pas vu ! A chaque survol du GC, ce fut pour moi décollage 8h pour avoir moins de turbulences de chaleur. Donc vol (en avion pour moi !) retenu la veille en fin après midi depuis le motel à Williams. Ensuite le reste de la journée passé à tous les points de vue (à pied ou en shuttle et en voiture), aucune rando dans le Canyon, c'est pas mon truc ! Ensuite route express jusque MV avec en effet le soleil couchant sur le site, mais en passant sans vrai arrêt et aller diner/dodo à Mexican Hat. Le lendemain matin, revenir au parc de MV et faire la boucle avec la voiture (sauf en cas de gros orage, le 4x4 des Navajos est superflu ...et cher !! A+
Pour ta "super-journée" du lendemain : ma réponse perso est "peut être" ! D'abord, le brouillard du matin ?? perso, pas vu ! A chaque survol du GC, ce fut pour moi décollage 8h pour avoir moins de turbulences de chaleur. Donc vol (en avion pour moi !) retenu la veille en fin après midi depuis le motel à Williams. Ensuite le reste de la journée passé à tous les points de vue (à pied ou en shuttle et en voiture), aucune rando dans le Canyon, c'est pas mon truc ! Ensuite route express jusque MV avec en effet le soleil couchant sur le site, mais en passant sans vrai arrêt et aller diner/dodo à Mexican Hat. Le lendemain matin, revenir au parc de MV et faire la boucle avec la voiture (sauf en cas de gros orage, le 4x4 des Navajos est superflu ...et cher !! A+
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
tu me rassures car la fille de l' agence m' avait un peu inquiétée ...
quand tu parles de route express vers MV ... si je me trompe pas il y a au moins 5H de route entre les 2 ... donc tu pars de GC vers 13H ?
sinon c' est vrai que le survol vers 8H c' est une bonne idée au moins çà permet de faire tous les points devue d' un coup après ... le petit aéroport est- il loin de grand canyon village ?
Ben il te manque une vraie carte routière 😛😛😠
Sur la mienne, du dernier viewpoint à l'est de GC (Desert view) à MV, je compte 250kms de très bonne route, sans trop de choses marquantes à voir... donc en 3h - 3h30 tu y es arrivée !
Quant au "Grand Canyon Park Airport", il est à Tusayan donc à 5mn de GC Village en voiture !
mais je ne sais pas de où décollent les hélicos ? Z'ont pas besoin d'un aéroport, eux !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Bonsoir,
La fille de l'agence, vous savez quoi? Elle aurait bien aimé vous vendre "son" hôtel, ne pensez-vous pas? Et je vous parie qu'elle n'a jamais mis les pieds dans un parc national aux États-Unis.
Quant on a une réservation pour un établissement à l'intérieur d'un parc il n'y a aucun problème pour y accéder en tout temps.
Vous avez tout bon en ce qui concerne les parcs; le nom du laisser-passer est America the Beautiful.
Pour le reste, ne peux vous répondre 😕
La fille de l'agence, vous savez quoi? Elle aurait bien aimé vous vendre "son" hôtel, ne pensez-vous pas? Et je vous parie qu'elle n'a jamais mis les pieds dans un parc national aux États-Unis.
Quant on a une réservation pour un établissement à l'intérieur d'un parc il n'y a aucun problème pour y accéder en tout temps.
Vous avez tout bon en ce qui concerne les parcs; le nom du laisser-passer est America the Beautiful.
Pour le reste, ne peux vous répondre 😕
Si vraiment très pressés, viser une nuit de pleine lune pour admirer le Grand Canyon : original, tranquillité assurée, pas de frais d' hôtel 😉
Mais l' hélico ne voudra peut-être pas marcher dans la combine ...😕
J' ai maintenant une question pratique concernant l' accès aux parcs (gd canyon, monument valley, bryce canyon ..) . Je sais qu' il faut acheter un pass qui donne accès à tous ces sites, que ce pass ( dont j' ai oublié le nom ) coûte environ 80 dollars, il me semble qu' un seul pass suffit pour une voiture ainsi que tous ses occupants ( nous serons 4 ) Exact; merci de me dire si je me trompe ... ma question est la suivante : l' employée de mon agence de voyages m' a dit que si l' on arrivait tard sur les parcs nationaux les accès seraient fermés et qu' on ne pourrait plus y rentrer, or nous avons prévu de dormir à gd canyon village (donc à l' intérieur du parc si je ne m' abuse ) après une longue étape los angeles-grand canyon qui risque justement de nous faire arriver tard et comme ce sera notre 1er parc nous n' aurons peut-être pas encore pu acheter le fameux pass ... est-ce que ce pass nous permet bien de rentrer dans les parcs même tard le soir ? Les parcs ne ferment physiquement que pour cause de meteo; le reste du temps, c'est toujours ouvert, vous n'aurez pas les papiers remis par les rangers à l'entrée avec cartes et explicatif, mais vous pourrez toujours retournez à l'entrée le lendemain ( voir au visitor center ou ils ont les memes papiers ), quand à votre carte, vous l'acheterez au parc suivant .est- ce que nous devons l' acheter avant ( par internet ou autre ? ) quelqu'un peut-il me dire à quelle heure se couche le soleil début juillet ? et à quelle heure se lève-t-il ? de mémoire je dirais levée 6h coucher vers 19h -20h ( attention aux decalages horaires entre etat).
nous avons choisi l' option de dormir directement dans les parcs (GC MV BC ) afin de profiter au maximum des lever-coucher de soleil en limitant les allers et venues depuis l' hôtel étant donné que le temps nous est compté et que nous ne pourrons pas nous attarder autant que nous le voudrions si nous voulons faire un maximum de choses ...
concernant grand canyon, avec une seule nuit sur place nous envisageons d' arriver le soir si possible pour le coucher de soleil puis le lendemain matin visite des points de vue ; nous aimerions caser le survol en hélico (on m' adit que la meilleure heure est vers 10 H ) mais il paraît que parfois la brume gêne la visibilité et qu' il vaut mieux ne pas prendre le risque de réserver et payer à l' avance mais plutôt réserver juste la veille selon la météo ... qu' en pensez vous pour début juillet ?
d' autre part la nuit suivante nous serons à monument valley et donc il nous faut prévoir de faire la route l' après-midi ... est-ce réaliste de vouloir faire en un jour les points de vue +- le survol en hélico + la route vers monument valley et arriver à MV pour le coucher de soleil ? Petit détail à MV, tu payes par jour, donc si tu fais le coucher de soleil le soir et la visite le lendemain, ca te fait la bagatelle de 40$ à 4; je dis cela car le levée du soleil pour peu que l'on se leve avant lui, est magnifique egalement, donc si ton timing est trop court, tu peux viser levée et non couchée..
çà fait beaucoup de questions mais çà serait bête de partir sur un projet et de s' apercevoir une fois sur place qu' on n' a pas le temps pour un truc qui nous tenait à coeur ...
merci d' avance Bonne route
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
Bonjour,
2 petites précisions : Monument Valley est un parc géré par les indiens Navaros, l'America The Beautiful pass ne fonctionne pas pour ce parc. je ne suis pas d'accord au sujet des 4x4 des Navajos : si tu fais le parcours avec ta voiture perso, il y a une très grande partie de Monument qui est privée et où seuls ces 4x4 peuvent pénétrer. C'est vrai que la loc est pas donnée. Mais c'est à toi de voir !
Si tu n'a pas d'étapes obligatoires, je te suggère de faire plutôt GC - Page (visite de Horseshoe Bend et du lac Powell) avec nuit à Page puis Page - Monument Valley en passant à Antelope Canyon vers midi et tu es sûre (sauf incident) d'être à Monument pour 16h00 .
Cela te fais des journées beaucoup moins chargées et te permet de voir d'autres sites.
Bon voyage
Merci pour tes renseignements c' est pas évident de voir les distances et les temps de trajet car les parcs nationaux sont grands et sur les sites qui permettent d' avoir ces renseignements on ne sait pas toujours bien préciser le lieu de départ et-ou d' arrivée ...par exemple pour gd canyon selon qu' on met south rim ou north rim çà change tout !!! alors pour nous qui n' y sommes jamais allés c' est pas toujours facile de savoir le lieu précis ... mais tu as raison la carte routière peut aider ...
vous n' avez peut-être pas tort pour la fille de l' agence mais je préférais m' assurer que çà ne poserait pas de problème ...
pour MV nous voulons réserver l' hotel qui est sur place, le goulding's lodge je crois, donc soit çà nous évitera de payer 2 fois pour les 2 jours soit de toutes façons on n' aura pas le choix !!
en tous cas si effectivement on arrivait trop tard pour le coucher, on se rattrappera sur le lever de soleil
merci frisoulette pour tes précisions
page est prévu après monument valley, nous y passerons même 2 nuits pour avoir le temps pour horseshoebend, antelope ( si possible upper et lower ), lee's ferry et the wave ( si c' est possible car j' ai cru comprendre que çà n' est pas toujours le cas, sûrement à cause de la météo ?.. )
ensuite nous irons à bryce canyon (1 nuit mais nous ne nous sommes pas encore penchés sur les hébergements je ne sais pas s' il y a plusieurs endroits pour dormir ) avant d' aller à las vegas
pour monument valley nous ne savons pas si nous passerons par les navajos, nous avons prévu de louer un 4/4 et nous nous débrouillerons peut-être tout seuls
merci en tous cas de tes renseignements
Ok, je comprends mieux ton itinéraire ...
Tu risque donc d'avoir une grosse journée ce jour là !
Dommage car si tu avais 1 ou 2 heures à perdre je te conseillerais de faire un stop à Cameron ou se trouve un super trading post le "Cameron Trading Post" ou tu aurais pu faire le plein de souvenirs. c'est un des plus grands et intéressants que j'ai trouvé dans cette région ...
C' est quoi un trading post ?
Ce n'est pas le Goulding lodge qui est dans le parc, mais le View hotel. Auquel cas effectivement tu seras idealement placé pour admirer couchée et levée du soleil.
Le Goulding lui est en dehors du park, et meme s'il offre une belle vue, c'est incomparable avec la situation du View hotel.
Bon voyage
Le Goulding lui est en dehors du park, et meme s'il offre une belle vue, c'est incomparable avec la situation du View hotel.
Bon voyage
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
c'est un magasin ou tu trouve des souvenirs, bijoux indiens (bagues, bracelets, collier, pendentifs...), habits, ceinturons, objets d'art, objets de déco, drapeaux, T-shirts, et j'en passe....
Celui de Cameron est particulièrement bien fournis. Il y en a pour toutes les bourses.
Il y a même à manger et je crois qu'il font hôtel aussi...
Il est vraiment bien ....
voici le lien web de celui de Cameron :
http://www.camerontradingpost.com/
Il y en a aussi dans le Grand Canyon et a Monument Valley, mais la plupart du temps ils en profitent un peu dans les parcs...
Il y en a aussi dans le Grand Canyon et a Monument Valley, mais la plupart du temps ils en profitent un peu dans les parcs...
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!