Je ne fais pas dans l'original mais ce forum semble avoir des membre qui connaissent très bien l'ouest américain.
Voila j'aimerais vous soumettre mon parcours pour un circuit fin aout/début septembre prochain.
C'est une première ébauche qui doit sans doute comporter des incohérences.
L'arrivée à SF et le depart de LA sont un impératif.
Nous souhaitons également finir notre séjour par quelques jours de farniente (San Diego est-elle selon vous le bon choix)
1BRUXELLES – SAN FRANCISCO
2SFAlcatraz ? 49-miles Scenic Drive
3SF
4SF – YOSEMITE
5YOSEMITE
6YOSEMITE - DEATH VALLEY
7DEATH VALLEY – LVVia Red Rock Canyon
8LAS VEGAS
9LV – BRYCE CANYON
10BRYCE CANYON – MOAB
11MOABDead Horse point, Canyon Land
12MOAB – PAGEMonument Valley, valley of the god
13PAGE – GRAND CANYON
14GRAND CANYON – PEACH SPRINGS
15PEACH SPRINGS – PALM SPRINGS
16PALM SPRING – SAN DIEGO
17SAN DIEGO
18SAN DIEGO
19SAN DIEGO
20SAN DIEGO – LAHollywood BLD, Berverly Hils, Santa Monica
21LOS ANGELESSTUDIO UNIVERSAL
22LOS ANGELESMalibu
23LA – BRUXELLES
Bonjour,
Des incohérences ? NON pas vraiment mais toujours cette envie de tout voir en un minimum de temps !
Par ex le J10 DOIT être dédoublé : 1 jour pour Bryce==>Torrey et le lendemain Torrey=> Moab.
Le J9 : pas d'arrêt à Zion ??
Le J11 DOIT aussi être dédoublé ! il faut au grand minimum 2 jours pleins à Moab ! Je ne vois pas Arches NP ??
J13 : où est Antelope Canyon ??
J14 : une raison particulière d'aller à Peach Springs ??
Pour Palm Springs, je suppose que c'est pour le Josuaha Tree NP ?? Sinon, QUOI ??
San Diego : OUI, mais 3 jours ? Farniente oui car c'est le seul endroit de la côte où la mer ne soit pas trop froide !
A+
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Hi !
La nuit a peach spring fait partie de l'original, mais pourquoi pas - je ne connais pas les tarifs du tout nouveau motel indien
Je suppose que l'accès à palm spring le lendemain passe par Joshua tree
Connais pas San diego, d'autres en parleront
Je pense que certains diront que 9, 10, 11, c'est rapide et que vous raterez plein de choses, mais je comprend vos choix sauf
à Moab Arches, et non Canyonland, quand on a qu'une journée, ça n"élimine pas DeadHP ou 1/2h suffit (+ 1h de routeAR)
Il est tard, on en reparle demain soir si tu veux des précisions
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
1 BRUXELLES – SAN FRANCISCO
2 SF Alcatraz ? 49-miles Scenic Drive
3 SF
4 SF – YOSEMITE
5 YOSEMITE
6 YOSEMITE - DEATH VALLEY Grosse journée de route attention
7 DEATH VALLEY – LV Via Red Rock Canyon
8 LAS VEGAS
9 LV – BRYCE CANYON
10 BRYCE CANYON – MOAB Ca fait aussi une grosse étape de route, pas tant au niveau des miles, mais comme tu traverses plein d'endroits qui valent le coup de faire au moins une petite halte, cette journée me parait difficile à tenir: tu as au minimum la scenic byway 12 à faire par Escalante et Boulder qui prend pas mal de temps, puis Capitol Reef trés beau parc et Goblin Valley qui a l'air assez sympa pour faire un petit détour.
11 MOAB Dead Horse point, Canyon Land Pas d'Arches National Park? Moab et sa région méritent au moins une journée de plus, sinon quel dommage!
12 MOAB – PAGE Monument Valley, valley of the god Donc pas de coucher de soleil à Monument Valley? C'est là ou les couleurs sont les plus belles! Dommage de ne faire ça que d'une seule traite... D'autant plus que tu veux faire Valley Of The Gods et qu'il y a aussi Goosenecks State Park à voir!
13 PAGE – GRAND CANYON Prévoir Antelope Canyon ce matin là
14 GRAND CANYON – PEACH SPRINGS Connais pas
15 PEACH SPRINGS – PALM SPRINGS
16 PALM SPRING – SAN DIEGO
17 SAN DIEGO
18 SAN DIEGO
19 SAN DIEGO
20 SAN DIEGO – LA Hollywood BLD, Berverly Hils, Santa Monica
21 LOS ANGELES STUDIO UNIVERSAL
22 LOS ANGELES Malibu
23 LA – BRUXELLES
Voilà donc si tu veux faire correctement toute la région de Maob et tout ce qu'il y a à voir entre Moab et Bryce, rajoute au moins 2 jours, qu'il faut par conséquent enlever ailleurs... A toi de voir...
Ca me semble pas mal comme itinéraire. Je te conseille toutefois à SF de faire une balade en vélo. Tu as la possibilité de louer des vélos le long des quais et de traverser le golden gate et de reprendre le bateau au départ de l'autre rive (Sausalito). C'est vraiment très sympa.
Je dirai que tu peux aisément rogner un peu de temps à San Diego pour le consacrer notamment aux Arches (Moab). Ce parc est vraiment sympa. Nous y sommes déjà retourné 2 fois, et cela vaut vraiment la peine. A San Diego nous y sommes restés 2 jours (Zoo mais au final on a trouvé que ce n'était pas impératif à visiter et Sea World qui lui vaut vraiment la peine, flaner au Balboa park est aussi très agréable). Visiter Coronado Bay vaut également la peine.
Je vois que tu comptes loger dans la Death Valley. Grande idée, c'est un de mes meilleurs souvenirs.
Avant tout je souhaite vous remercier pour vos retours rapides et pertinent😉
Tu as la possibilité de louer des vélos le long des quais et de traverser le golden gate et de reprendre le bateau au départ de l'autre rive (Sausalito). C'est vraiment très sympa.
J'y avais pas pensé mais c'est vrai que ça doit être un moyen très sympa de decouvrir la ville, merci pour l'idée !
6 YOSEMITE - DEATH VALLEY Grosse journée de route attention
C'est juste, google annonce 7h de route ! Vous avez une alternative? une étape sympa? ou est ce un bon sacrifice pour bien profiter du reste ?
1 MOAB Dead Horse point, Canyon Land Pas d'Arches National Park? Moab et sa région méritent au moins une journée de plus, sinon quel dommage!
12 MOAB – PAGE Monument Valley, valley of the god Donc pas de coucher de soleil à Monument Valley? C'est là ou les couleurs sont les plus belles! Dommage de ne faire ça que d'une seule traite... D'autant plus que tu veux faire Valley Of The Gods et qu'il y a aussi Goosenecks State Park à voir!
ok Itat je vais prévoir une journée de plus à Moab.
Tu me conseille donc de passer la nuit à proximité de monument valley plutot qu'a Page pour y admirer le coucher de soleil (des hotels sympas aux alentours?)
J14 : une raison particulière d'aller à Peach Springs ??
Pour Palm Springs, je suppose que c'est pour le Josuaha Tree NP ?? Sinon, QUOI ??
En fait je sais pas trop comment organisé mon retour sur LA pour ne pas avoir un trajet trop long.
Je suis moyennement motivé pour Joshua Tree et j'avais choisi peach spring par défaut car situé sur la route 66. Des suggestions ?
à Moab Arches, et non Canyonland, quand on a qu'une journée, ça n"élimine pas DeadHP ou 1/2h suffit (+ 1h de routeAR)
Bern selon toi Canyonland ne fais pas parti des "indispensables" ça vaut qd même le coup d'ajouter une journée à Moab ??
un moyen très sympa de decouvrir la ville : certes, mais le long du bord de mer plutôt car du coté de Lombard St tu as des pentes à 20% voire plus ! prépare te mollets !
Vous avez une alternative? une étape sympa? ou est ce un bon sacrifice pour bien profiter du reste ? Solution très simple : de Yosemite tu descends la 395 avec arrêt dodo à Lone Pine (plein de motels) et le lendemain matin t'es presque à DV, ce qui fait qu'en fin de d'aprème tu vas dodo à Vegas (moins cher que DV 😛) OK, les puristes te diront : et le coucher de soleil sur DV alors ! A toi de voir !
la nuit à proximité de monument valley ? Elementaire my dear Watson : soit sur place au Goulding ou au tout nouveau machin dont je ne sais pas le nom, soit à Mexican Hat un peu plus à l'Est
Bern selon toi Canyonland ne fais pas parti des "indispensables" ça vaut qd même le coup d'ajouter une journée à Moab ??
TOUT, autour de Moab, est "indispensable" ! Canyonlands (island in the sky) + Dead Horse dans le même coin mais qui peut se satisfaire d'une demie heure, + Arches et selon le sens du circuit, Canyonlands Sud (the Needles)
Si j'osais je rajouterais un A/R sur la route 128 à la sortie nord de Moab qui offre un vrai condensé des points de vue de l'Ouest !
Alors OUI, tout ça vaut bien 3 jours pleins sur place !!
Pour le trajet GC==> L.A si Joshua ne te titille pas trop... tu peux faire direct ! Un arret à Seligman (aussi sur la 66) fera l'affaire, il me semble.
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Voila, j'ai refais mon parcours en prenant en compte vos remarques.
Qu'en pensez vous ?
BRUXELLES – SAN FRANCISCO SF
SFAlcatraz SF
SF49-miles Scenic DriveSF
SF – YOSEMITERoute le matin, visite Yosemite en journée
YOSEMITE - DEATH VALLEYNuit à Lone Pine ou Death Valley
DEATH VALLEY – LVVisite death valley matin, Red rock canyon A-M
LAS VEGASVisite LV
LV – TORREYVisite Zion + Bryce Canyon
TORREY – MOABCapitol reef, Goblin valley
MOABArches NP, Capitol Reef, Goblin Valley
MOABDead Horse point, Canyon Land
MOAB – MONUMENT VALLEYMuley Point Overlook, Monument Valley, valley of the god, Goosenecks State Park
MONUMENT VALLEY – PAGEAntelope Canyon, lake powell
PAGE – SELIGMANGrand Canyon
SELIGMAN – PALM SPRINGS Palm Spring
PALM SPRING – SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO – LAHollywood BLD, Berverly Hils, Santa MonicaLos Angeles
LOS ANGELESSTUDIO UNIVERSAL
LOS ANGELESMalibuLos Angeles
LA – BRUXELLES
BRUXELLES – SAN FRANCISCO SF
SF Alcatraz SF
SF 49-miles Scenic Drive SF
SF – YOSEMITE Route le matin, visite Yosemite en journée
YOSEMITE - DEATH VALLEY Nuit à Lone Pine ou Death Valley
DEATH VALLEY – LV Visite death valley matin, Red rock canyon A-M
LAS VEGAS Visite LV
LV – TORREY Visite Zion + Bryce Canyon Journée infaisable où alors en ne faisant que rouler et dons cans visiter Bryce et Zion... A re voir. Découpe comme suit: Las Vegas - Zion - Bryce (même si c'est dommage pour Zion...) puis le lendemain Bryce - Scenic Byway 12 - Torrey. Enlève un jour à San Diego...
TORREY – MOAB Capitol reef, Goblin valley
MOAB Arches NP, Capitol Reef, Goblin Valley
MOAB Dead Horse point, Canyon Land
MOAB – MONUMENT VALLEY Muley Point Overlook, Monument Valley, valley of the god, Goosenecks State Park
MONUMENT VALLEY – PAGE Antelope Canyon, lake powell Ne fais pas Antelope ce jour là, tu risques d'être pressé par le temps.
PAGE – SELIGMAN Grand Canyon Fais Antelope ici! Puis tu pars pour Grand Canyon
SELIGMAN – PALM SPRINGS Palm Spring
PALM SPRING – SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego Moi c'est ici que j'enlèverais un jour pour le mettre à Bryce
SAN DIEGO – LA Hollywood BLD, Berverly Hils, Santa Monica Los Angeles
LOS ANGELES STUDIO UNIVERSAL
LOS ANGELES Malibu Los Angeles
LA – BRUXELLES
BRUXELLES – SAN FRANCISCO SF
SF Alcatraz SF (attention il faut réserver, ya beaucoup de demande)
SF 49-miles Scenic Drive SF
SF – YOSEMITE Route le matin, visite Yosemite en journée (tu vas courir, c'est immense)
YOSEMITE - DEATH VALLEY Nuit à Lone Pine ou Death Valley
DEATH VALLEY – LV Visite death valley matin, Red rock canyon A-M (Red Rock est juste à coté de Vegas, je le glisserai de bonne heure le lendemain matin pluis visite de Vegas qu'il faut voir de nuit, donc tu as le temps pour la ville
LAS VEGAS Visite LV
LV – TORREY Visite Zion + Bryce Canyon . Pas possible, on parle de parks US, c'est très grand, assez loin l'un de l'autre et Zion est interdit aux véhicules perso, tu dois y prendre la navette.
TORREY – MOAB Capitol reef, Goblin valley
MOAB Arches NP, Capitol Reef, Goblin Valley Ne pas faire Capitol reef et Arches en meme temps, la route UT 12 prend du temps à apprécier.
MOAB Dead Horse point, Canyon Land
MOAB – MONUMENT VALLEY Muley Point Overlook, Monument Valley, valley of the god, Goosenecks State Park
MONUMENT VALLEY – PAGE Antelope Canyon, lake powell
PAGE – SELIGMAN Grand Canyon Tu dors à Seligman quel intéret, les boutiques de la Mother Road que tu auras emprunté via la I40 ???? du coup, tu visites Grand Canyon en courant ??
SELIGMAN – PALM SPRINGS Palm Spring
PALM SPRING – SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO San Diego trois jours à San Diego, au détriment des parks, c'est un choix
SAN DIEGO San Diego
SAN DIEGO – LA Hollywood BLD, Berverly Hils, Santa Monica Los Angeles
LOS ANGELES STUDIO UNIVERSAL
LOS ANGELES Malibu Los Angeles
LA – BRUXELLES
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!