Nous partons en juin avec nos enfants de 9 et 6 ans et allons faire des ballades dans les parcs nationaux et aussi quelques ballades hors des sentiers battus (Devil's Garden, et slot canyon sur Hole in the Rock Road)..
Est-il utile, nécessaire ou superflu d'emmener un anti venin ???
Sans en faire une psychose, je trouve que pas mal de carnets de voyage sur ce forum présentent des photos de serpents à sonnette et me font penser qu'il n'est peut-être pas vraiment rare d'en rencontrer sur un chemin de randonnées... D'ailleurs, ceux qui restent pour les prendre en photo, bravo.. il me semble que je prendrais les jambes à mon cou et oublierais certainement d'essayer de le photographier... lol😉
Qu'en pensez-vous ??
bonjour,
je me pose la même question. je pars en juillet, et à ce sujet, comment faites vous pour partir en juin avec des enfants d'age scolaire ? vous faites sauter l'école ?
Le nombre (moyen) annuel de deces aux USA a cause de morsures de
serpent est 15. En europe, le moyen est 30. L'etat americain qui a le nombre
le plus eleve de morsures et le Caroline du Nord.
Sur une quinzaine de voyages dans l'Ouest (53 semaines en tout), pratiquement tous en dehors des sentiers battus et avec beaucoup de randonnées, je n'ai rencontré que 7 serpents venimeux (rattlesankes, dont 6 sur 7 m'ont bien prévenu avec leur sonnette) et 1 lezard venimeux (Gila monster) donc tu vois qu'on n'en rencontre pas tant que cela. J'espère que tu as apprécié mes photos de certains d'entre eux (voir sur cette page ) 😉.
Il faut savoir qu'un pourcentage non négligeable des morsures de rattlesnakes sont des morsures dites sèches soit sans venin, donc même mordu rien n'est encore perdu !
Dans les slot canyons près de Hole in the Rock Rd où tu vas aller, il est connu qu'il y a une espèce de petits rattlesnakes appelé pigmy rattlesnakes (voir ici ) donc ne laissez pas courir les enfants devant mais encadrez les entre vous.
L'efficacité de l'Aspivenin est très contestée dans le secteur médical, qui y voit souvent davantage un aspect psychologique qui calme le mordu en lui laissant croire qu'on lui a fait quelque chose d'efficace.
Take care !
Philippe
www.phschuler.com et www.ouestusa.fr, pour une vision de l'Ouest en dehors des sentiers battus.
Carnet de voyage Ouest USA 2009
Oui, les enfants n'iront pas à l'école à partir du 14 juin ... 3 semaines d'abssence en CE2 et Grande Section, nous avons pensé que cela n'est pas catastrophique... Et on ne voulait pas aller dans l'ouest en Juillet Aout : trop chaud et trop de monde !!
Merci pour cette réponse très précise.. bon, je crois qu'on va se passer d'aspire venin.... et peut-être éviter les slots canyon près de Hole in The rock... car nos enfants ne savent pas rester "encadrés" et courent toujours dans tous les sens !!!!
Merci encore pour tes infos précieuses !
çà c'est amusant, ta statistique sur les décès par morsure, enfin si on peut dire... mais ça ne m'étonne pas rétrospectivement
au fil des années passées en Amérique du Nord et quant mon métier m'amenait à passer beaucoup de temps dehors et en particulier dans les Etats de l'Ouest (comme Sedonax mais pas pour le fun.. hello Sedonax!) les trois vraies alertes dont un "near miss" ce n'était pas dans l'Ouest mais en Caroline du Nord (et du Georgie) au pied de la Blue Ridge, en l'espace de deux ans seulement.
Le "near miss" par un rattler dont j'ai gardé la peau, une personne qui me suivait l'ayant décapité d'un coup de pelle, je l'ai toujours d'ailleurs ( la peau, pas la pelle)
Une autre alerte par un copperhead, tuée d'une balle, belle peau aussi
La troisième alerte par un cottonmouth (qu'en français on appelle mocassin d'eau, je crois) et la saloperie était planquée dans un arbuste le long d'un ruisseau à hauteur du visage, donc les cuissardes que l'on portait n'allaient pas servir à grand chose comme protection. Mais c'était suite à une imprudence car les autorités locales (le bureau du Sherif, je crois en l'occurrence) avait interdit de marcher le long des ruisseaux du fait que la sècheresse cette année là amenait ces bestioles à se regrouper dans ceux des ruisseaux qui n'étaient pas à sec.
Par contre lors d'un déplacement au Texas le chien d'un rancher qui m'accompagnait a été mordu par un petit (relativement petit) diamonback et il a bien fallu en mourir.
J'ai pensé à l'époque que si j'avais été surpris par ou surpris moi-même relativement souvent des serpents en Caroline ce n'était pas parce qu'il y en a plus mais peut être parce que: soi même on les voit moins du fait du feuillage que sur le sol nu, eux perçoivent moins bien nos vibrations transmises par le sol du fait de ce même feuillage qui les amortit.
any idea?
Outre les conseils donnés par Sedonax je pense que nos amis candidats au voyage peuvent parfaitement s'inspirer des règles de sûreté qu'on trouve sur les sites officiels du web. N'allez par exemple pas vous ballader en espadrille et porter plutôt des bottes de cuir et ne ramassez pas n'importe quoi avec les mains...Ne fourrez pas votre tête dans un trou de rocher et ne grimpez pas les rochers à main nue sans voir ou vous posez les mains etc... etc...
cochize
Suite des "Rencontres insolites avec des grizzlys, chercheurs d'or et autres dans l'Ouest Américain" (26 février 2009)
j' ai trouvé l'histoire ... effrayante
une histoire semblable s'était produite il y a des années en france : une sorte de petit serpent venimeux (on parlait à l'époque de serpent-minute) s'était glissé dans un régime de bananes en provenance du Nicaragua
ces histoires font penser au début d'un téléfilm ...Américain😉
cochize
Suite des "Rencontres insolites avec des grizzlys, chercheurs d'or et autres dans l'Ouest Américain" (26 février 2009)
Une autre histoire effrayante (en anglais). Ce morsure d'un copperhead a eu lieu au centre de Washington, DC, il y a 10 ans. Il n'y a plus de rattlesnakes tout pres de Washington, DC (un petit peu a l'ouest, ils sont toujours la), mais on trouve des copperheads.
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For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
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