comment faire au niveau des horaires en sachant qu'il faut faire les arret soit tot le matin ou tard le soir en sachant que je peut pas rester dormir ds la death valley car les places restante st trop cheres. merci de me doner vos conseils et différents avis afin de résoudre mon dilemme car j'aimerais également profiterde ballade tot le matin et des belles couleurs au couché du soleil merci d'avance a vous et au réalisateur du site ouestusa.fr qui es super mais qui donne envie de tt visiter se qui malheureusement n'est pas possible 😕
Une journée pour visiter Death Valley
by Gget
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour, je suis en train d'organiser la journée qui sera pour visiter death valley dans mon trip ouest américain:
en sachant qu'il fera très chaud car se sera le 26 juillet 2008 alors merci de me donner vos avis conseils et tous renseignement intéressant.
depart tot le matin (mais quelles heure??) de lone pine
1er arret: sand dunes avec petites balades ds les dunes
2e arret: mozaic canyon ( la randonnées est réalisable en été si oui vers quelle heure le matin??)
3e arret: salt creek interpretive trail (balade 30min possible??)
ensuite passage a furnace creek
4e arret: bad water
5e arret: natural bridge (rando de 30min possible ??)
6e arret : devil's golf course
7e arret: artist palette sur artist drive
8e arret: golden canyon
9e arret: pose dejeuner a furnace creek rnch avec visite du borax museum
10e arret: dante's view
11e arret: zabriskie point ( a faire pr le coucher du soleil?)
arrivé: de nuit a pahrump ou best western ou a shoshone
comment faire au niveau des horaires en sachant qu'il faut faire les arret soit tot le matin ou tard le soir en sachant que je peut pas rester dormir ds la death valley car les places restante st trop cheres. merci de me doner vos conseils et différents avis afin de résoudre mon dilemme car j'aimerais également profiterde ballade tot le matin et des belles couleurs au couché du soleil merci d'avance a vous et au réalisateur du site ouestusa.fr qui es super mais qui donne envie de tt visiter se qui malheureusement n'est pas possible 😕
comment faire au niveau des horaires en sachant qu'il faut faire les arret soit tot le matin ou tard le soir en sachant que je peut pas rester dormir ds la death valley car les places restante st trop cheres. merci de me doner vos conseils et différents avis afin de résoudre mon dilemme car j'aimerais également profiterde ballade tot le matin et des belles couleurs au couché du soleil merci d'avance a vous et au réalisateur du site ouestusa.fr qui es super mais qui donne envie de tt visiter se qui malheureusement n'est pas possible 😕
En plein mois de juillet des randos dans death valley même de 30 mn, faut pas trop y compter.
il faut savoir que même à 21h le soir quand il fait déjà nuit, nous avions encore plus de 40°.
Imagine la journée en plein soleil. Tu te rendras compte par toi même la 1ere fois que tu sortiras de ta voiture climatisée.
c'est très très saisissant. C'est une expérience assez hallucinante qu'il ne faut absolument pas rater.
il est vrai que quand j'en suis sortie, j'ai quand même eu un certain soulagement. c'est assez oppressant.
bon voyage
bon voyage
Un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
Bonjour gget,
Tout à fait de l'avis de Anne74 ! Oublie tes randos, à moins que les 40-45° que tu auras entre 9h et 20h ...voire plus tard, ne te fasse pas peur ! Je me souviens du soulagement en entrant au Visitor Center climatisé à donf, après juste 20 mètres hors de la voiture !! C'est bien pour cela que je ne considère la visite qu'en voiture, avec arrêt aux principaux points que tu as listés, et en laissant la voiture tourner svp !! En passant, il y a un peu partout des panneaux qui disent "stay on trails" donc je me demande si t'aurais le droit d'aller dans les Sand Dunes !! Attention à la végétation et à la faune !
Tout à fait de l'avis de Anne74 ! Oublie tes randos, à moins que les 40-45° que tu auras entre 9h et 20h ...voire plus tard, ne te fasse pas peur ! Je me souviens du soulagement en entrant au Visitor Center climatisé à donf, après juste 20 mètres hors de la voiture !! C'est bien pour cela que je ne considère la visite qu'en voiture, avec arrêt aux principaux points que tu as listés, et en laissant la voiture tourner svp !! En passant, il y a un peu partout des panneaux qui disent "stay on trails" donc je me demande si t'aurais le droit d'aller dans les Sand Dunes !! Attention à la végétation et à la faune !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
si, si dans les sand dunes tu as le droit d' y aller, j'ai vu plusieurs personne s'arréter au bord de la route et aller dessus.
Pour ma part, j'ai vraiment pas eu le courage. le sable devait être brulant, et vraiment pas la force de faire le court trajet à pied pour les rejoindre.
par contre, j'ai logé au stovepipe wells motel, et j'avais une chambre avec vue sur les dunes;
Vraiment très chouette
Un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
Effectivement, tu ne pourras pas visiter le fond de la vallée autrement qu'en voiture ; au maximum tu resteras 5 minutes hors d'un espace climatisé (oublie les randos de 30 minutes).
Par contre, il y a des randos à faire en altitude, où il fait beaucoup beaucoup moins chaud - elles sont précisées sur le dépliant ou au Visitor Center. Je me demande si c'est pas aussi à Zabriskie point que j'ai vu le coucher de soleil.
Bonjour,
Soyons un peu fou !!! 1. Quitter Lone Pine de nuit, pour être au lever du soleil à Sand Dunes 2. Faire tout ou une partie de Golden Canyon. Il ne fera peut-être pas encore trop chaud 3. Artist Palette et Artist Drive 4. Badwater pout "vivre" la T° dans ce coin le plus bas 5. Devil's Golf Course (ça se "vit" en 5 minutes) 6. Pose à Furnace Creek. Piscine. Musée 7. Fin d'après-midi à Dante's View. C'est plus haut, il fait plus frais 8. Coucher de soleil à Zabriskie
Bon courage
Soyons un peu fou !!! 1. Quitter Lone Pine de nuit, pour être au lever du soleil à Sand Dunes 2. Faire tout ou une partie de Golden Canyon. Il ne fera peut-être pas encore trop chaud 3. Artist Palette et Artist Drive 4. Badwater pout "vivre" la T° dans ce coin le plus bas 5. Devil's Golf Course (ça se "vit" en 5 minutes) 6. Pose à Furnace Creek. Piscine. Musée 7. Fin d'après-midi à Dante's View. C'est plus haut, il fait plus frais 8. Coucher de soleil à Zabriskie
Bon courage
Bonjour,
Je confirme la Chaleur est réel, vent chaud, limite même parfois à supporter ! Vous ne pourrez pas vous absenter de vôtre véhicule bien longtemps. Cette été vers Fin Aout, 48 degrès, je me suis balader comme un bon vieux touriste et aprés 15/20 minutes de marche = malaise ! Pour vous entrainer chez vous, mettre son séche cheveux en marche et le tenir à bouts de bras face au visage ! voilà Death Valley ...!! Merçi.
bonjour,
je propose de cette discussion pour poser une question: nous ne pouvons pas entrer dans Deatrh valley car nous sommes en camping cae. Est-ce vrai qu'on peut prendre un bus por s'y ballader? si oui, combien de temps dure la ballade et est-ce que cela en vaut la peine?
Merci et un grand bonjour des Pays-Bas
Françoise (Frenske) & Co
"je partirai loin, très loin, un cerf volant à la main parce qu'il faut bien s'accrocher quelque part"(J. Gamblin)
Le 15 septembre vers 1700 Hr, il y avait 34° à Golden Canyon et c'était tout à fait supportable. Bien sûr, il fallait marcher à son aise et il fait plus chaud en août.
C'est pourquoi je préconise de commencer très tôt. Les dunes vers 78 Hr et Golden Canyon vers 9 Hr du matin, ça devrait être faisable. Le reste se fait en voiture. Pour Dante's view, c'est plus haut et à faitre vers 17-18 Hr avant d'aller au coucher de soleil à Zabriskie
Bonjour Frenske,
Allez vous dans le coin en été ?? sinon, en ce moment, entrer à Death Valley avec un RV ne doit pas être un souci !
Sinon, il y a des tours organisés depuis Las Vegas :
http://www.lasvegasgrandcanyontour.com/bus/death-valley-scotties-castle.htm
La question sur Google était "bus tours in Death Valley" !
http://www.lasvegasgrandcanyontour.com/bus/death-valley-scotties-castle.htm
La question sur Google était "bus tours in Death Valley" !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
le mieux c'est de s'organiser pour le lever de soleil sur sand dunes ou plutot le couché de soleil sur zabriskie point? car faire les deux c'est pas possible je suppose s'il fé vraiment très chaud je suppose que l'on peut rien faire et on ne vas pas rester dans la voiture tte la journée alors d'après vous comment organiser ma journée avec des horaires précises.
Merci d'avance.
GAETAN
Sortez tous de votre cocoon!!!!
les grosses chaleurs ne sont pas propriétés de death valley, de un,
de deux essayez de voyager avec un peu de bon sens!!
qu'on m'explique si on est obligé de traverser la vallée avec la climatisation à font dans la voiture!!!!!!
Réponse oui? alors la solution: tu traverses, pas d'arrêt permis autant rester chez soi....
Réponse : on coupe la clim. sauf avis médical, tu t'en porteras pas plus mal, ta voiture non plus( la clim bouffe beaucoup d'énergie, en l'occurence de l'essence) et les arrets que tu feras ne seront pas des corvets!!!
Comme partout dans le monde ou il fait chaud, il faut se proteger du soleil, point barre... chapeau lunettes boissons
Bonjour gget,
Bon, alors je vais essayer de résoudre ta quadrature du cercle 😊 : Death valley sans avoir trop chaud en été !
Primo faire le plein ras bord avant de quitter Lone Pine ! Il y a du carburant dans DV mais pas forcément moins cher !! Départ tôt de Lone Pine par la 395 et 136, premier arrêt à Panamint Springs et son gros thermomètre à côté de la boutique, ...soit 53km déjà. Sur la gauche vers le nord, les Panamint dunes.... un chemin y mène mais ma vieille carte de DV indique "4x4 conseillé". ensuite prends la 190 et à ta droite après 30km l'Emigrant Canyon road remonte ce Canyon sur 30km. demi-tour et arrivée à Stovepipe Wells et "tes" Sand Dunes". puisque tu te demandes quoi faire.... offres toi l'aller/retour (100km) de Stovepipe à Scotties Castle, plus le Mesquite Springs Amphitheater juste à côté. puis la 190 à nouveau via Furnace Creek jusqu'à Badwater, 1/2 tour et Artists drive (sauf erreur en sens unique avec entrée par le sud) puis la 190 toujours vers Zabriskie Point et surtout Dante's view sortie par DV Junction et Pahrump si tu y fais dodo.
Voilà de quoi s'occuper et arriver à Zabriskie ou Dante's en fin aprème. Si par hasard il te reste du temps, Beatty et la ville fantome de Rhyolite ne sont qu'à 30km de Furnace Creek....😉
Côté chaleur, comme tout le monde te l'a déja dit, c'est incontournable, même tôt le matin ou tard le soir... et pas seulement à DV ! En juillet 2005 j'ai vu 39° à 22h30 à Las Vegas 🤪 Donc avoir une glacière et beaucoup d'eau et ne pas être trop "ambitieux" pour de la marche à pied (sauf si on pratique couramment le sud marocain en aout !) Quant à couper la clim de l'auto, moi je ne m'en sens pas capable !
Côté chaleur, comme tout le monde te l'a déja dit, c'est incontournable, même tôt le matin ou tard le soir... et pas seulement à DV ! En juillet 2005 j'ai vu 39° à 22h30 à Las Vegas 🤪 Donc avoir une glacière et beaucoup d'eau et ne pas être trop "ambitieux" pour de la marche à pied (sauf si on pratique couramment le sud marocain en aout !) Quant à couper la clim de l'auto, moi je ne m'en sens pas capable !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Merci du renseignement Jacques. C'est bête, je n'était même pas aller sur Goggle pour chercher!🤪 Je vais trop confiance à la gentillesse des gens du Forum (que je viens de découvrir, une mine d'or🙂).
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Françoise (Frenske en dialecte Limbourgeois).
"je partirai loin, très loin, un cerf volant à la main parce qu'il faut bien s'accrocher quelque part"(J. Gamblin)
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!






