Los Angeles: ville dangereuse comme ont peut voir sur internet?
by Frenchboy
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut!
je pars a Los Angeles 3 mois au mois de septembre
et j'arrete pas de lire sur internet que los angeles est une ville tres dangereuse etc etc
Es ce que c'est vrai?
Mes différents messages sur ce forum témoignent que je ne suis pas un fanatique de Los Angeles.
Mais il faut arrêter de flipper. Les français se précipitent par dizaines de milliers chaque année à New York sans se poser de question, mais pensent qu'ils vont débarquer dans un vaste coup de gorgre de 17 milions d'habitants quand ils vont à LA. C'est idiot. A LA (comme à NY, Washington, Philadelphie, Chicago et tant d'autres), il y a des quartiers à éviter de nuit comme de jour, d'autres à éviter seulement la nuit. Et c'est tout.
Sans en faire une psychose, Los Angeles est la ville la plus dangereuse des Etats-Unis et il est fortement deconseille de se ballader a la nuit tombee downtown (de toute facon, il n'y a rien a y faire). La moitie est de la ville est une zone de non-droit total dans laquelle la police n'intervient pas. Pour les autres quartiers (dont BH ou Santa Monica), il n'y a aucun probleme.
LA n'est pas NY ou Washington en terme de securite. Il faut y etre un peu plus prudent.
LA n'est pas NY ou Washington en terme de securite. Il faut y etre un peu plus prudent.
bonjour c'est mad!
dis c'est obligé que tu y ailles ? sinon n'y va pas si tu flippes comme ça. Maintenant si tu es obligé d'y aller et de sortir le soir, un conseil si tu veux sortir evite de le faire seul, mais plutot accompagné, au mexique aussi il est préconisé de sortir accompagné et non seul à la tombée du jour, mais c 'est comme partout tu sais, mais soit prudent et sors "couvert"😛
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Tu me fais penser aux américains qui croyaient que Paris et les Champs-Elysées étaient à feux et à sang pendant les émeutes des banlieues 😎 avec des reportages dignes de la guerre en Irak !
Si tu vas à Paris, je pense pas que tu iras te balader le soir à pied tout seul à Sarcelles non plus 🤪
Si tu vas à Paris, je pense pas que tu iras te balader le soir à pied tout seul à Sarcelles non plus 🤪
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
On t'a déjà dit d'arrêter de flipper 😛
Un quartier "chaud", ça se reconnaît très vite, aux Etats-Unis comme en France. Et là-bas comme ici, si tu ne le sens pas, rebrousse chemin.
Tous les guides de voyage (et ce forum) contiennent le détail des zones "safes" et des coins à éviter.
non fo arreter les gars! ooooh LA c LA ! si tu vas a inglewood ok tu peut flipper ! c quartier sont pas touristique a moins de vouloir croiser le cousin de dre ou de snoop y a pas trop d'interet c comme si t'allais visiter nanterre ou bobigny ou meme argenteuil comme disait vazyvite t'irais pas te balader le soir a sarcelles ? arrive pas la bas comme un touriste en short avec l'appareil photo au tour du cou! quand je suis allé a LA (juin 2006) ca c bien passer on revenait de San F.
PS c comme NY tu vas pas dans le bronx !🙂
PS c comme NY tu vas pas dans le bronx !🙂
"vous oubliez que les fruits sont à tous et que la terre n'est à personne" Jean-Jacques Rousseau
lmao ok ca peut sevir a d autres...kk L.A ya des coins c est pas top(crenshaw blvd, cpt, certains coin de south central meme si ca c est calme..un peu, inglewood kelke fois, long beach une partie...)bref j suis a south central depuis un certain time(merci la family :)) downtown tu peux te balader la nuit arretez vos conneries c est plus comme a l ancienne donc yup tu peux te balader la nuit et si t as pas de bol be t as pas de bol lol ya des bon coin aussi si t y retourne ou si t es allé tu dois connaitre les coins comme huntington beach l été c est un tres bon coin, le reste de l annee aussi d ailleurs..bref L.A c est L.A t as du en voir kelke choze...et au fait ya aussi un coin a eviter...le batiment des LAPD la police la plus corrupted never ever seen lmao brf j espere que ton voyage t as plus ciao
je rectifie mon message pour celui qui se croit plus malin que les autres...si tu juge mon post pas interressant et que tu me dis que j ai oublié de me relire, pourquoi tu envois une reponse encore plus ininterressante?sans explication en plus?pour t'amuser a faire le correcteur d orthographe?dans ce cas le temps que j ai vécu en france, j'ai jamais entendu cette expression:"tandis pendant que c'est le temps", alors avant de critiquer l'écriture de quelq'un on regarde d'abord ce qu'on ecrit ;) je m'attendais a une personne qui pourrait peut etre avoir besoin de renseignements(bien que j'ai été étonné de la rapidité du post), et en fait tout ce que je vois c'est quelqu'un qui a donné une réponse sans explications en s'amusant a faire le correcteur d'orthographe....continue comme ca mon grand, si t'avais que ca a faire de ton dimanche >>
Pas vraiment de problème à L.A. Sauf L.A. Ouest la nuit.
La destination n'est pas importante, seul le voyage compte.
Juste un conseil, mais ne panique pas, j'ai failli avoir un problème sur Hollywood bd, le soir vers 21 heures : un groupe de mecs venaient vers moi mais comme j'étais à qq pas de mon hôtel (Roosevelt) j'ai pu rentrer dans le hall sans difficulté. Beverly pas de diff.
Venice n'est pas conseillée la nuit, mais je n'y passerai que l'am).
Par contre je repars début juin et je n'hésiterai pas à déambuler à L A sinon, je n'ai qu'à rester chez moi. Je ne panique pas et je sais que les californiens m'ont tjrs bien accueillis (comme je n'ai pas une tête de mexicain qui sont pris, là bas pour des esclaves, ça passe très bien).
Alors bon séjour (3 mois pour moi ce serait le rêve, je n'y reste que 4 jours après le circuit traditionnel jusqu'à Monument Valley).
Venice n'est pas conseillée la nuit, mais je n'y passerai que l'am).
Par contre je repars début juin et je n'hésiterai pas à déambuler à L A sinon, je n'ai qu'à rester chez moi. Je ne panique pas et je sais que les californiens m'ont tjrs bien accueillis (comme je n'ai pas une tête de mexicain qui sont pris, là bas pour des esclaves, ça passe très bien).
Alors bon séjour (3 mois pour moi ce serait le rêve, je n'y reste que 4 jours après le circuit traditionnel jusqu'à Monument Valley).
"Sans en faire une psychose : -- > La moitie est de la ville est une zone de non-droit total dans laquelle la police n'intervient pas."
Voilà, donc attention aux snipers, émeutes voir même aux dragons dans certains quartiers... 😛
Sérieusement, la question qu'il faut te poser est simplement : une ville de plus de 5M d'habitant ça implique quoi ? Ben simplement que certains quartiers craignent plus que d'autre (je confirme, East downtown après la tombée de la nuit, c'est pas super fun), mais avec un peu de bon sens (tu vas pas aller trainer un vendredi soir en plein Compton, comme tu passerais pas tes vacances de noël dans certains coins d'Ile de France) tu ne risques absolument rien.
C'est pas Tokyo, certes, mais c'est pas non plus Lagos au Nigéria ou la Sierra Léone.
LA est une ville magnifique, certes ça brille moins que SF au premier coup d'oeil, mais en trois mois, tu vas trouver tes coins, ressentir l'ambiance etc... tu vas aimer où non, mais en tout cas tu verra que tout ce que tu imagines sur cette ville est sans doute infondé...
PS : "Parceque j'aurais pas de voiture donc la journée c'est dangereux de marcher a pied par la"... euh... LA sans voiture c'est pas trop gérable (3 mois en plus !!!). Contactes moi par MP si tu veux des infos.
Voilà, donc attention aux snipers, émeutes voir même aux dragons dans certains quartiers... 😛
Sérieusement, la question qu'il faut te poser est simplement : une ville de plus de 5M d'habitant ça implique quoi ? Ben simplement que certains quartiers craignent plus que d'autre (je confirme, East downtown après la tombée de la nuit, c'est pas super fun), mais avec un peu de bon sens (tu vas pas aller trainer un vendredi soir en plein Compton, comme tu passerais pas tes vacances de noël dans certains coins d'Ile de France) tu ne risques absolument rien.
C'est pas Tokyo, certes, mais c'est pas non plus Lagos au Nigéria ou la Sierra Léone.
LA est une ville magnifique, certes ça brille moins que SF au premier coup d'oeil, mais en trois mois, tu vas trouver tes coins, ressentir l'ambiance etc... tu vas aimer où non, mais en tout cas tu verra que tout ce que tu imagines sur cette ville est sans doute infondé...
PS : "Parceque j'aurais pas de voiture donc la journée c'est dangereux de marcher a pied par la"... euh... LA sans voiture c'est pas trop gérable (3 mois en plus !!!). Contactes moi par MP si tu veux des infos.
Ce message date de 2007, depuis j'y suis allé 3 fois. Je connais très bien la ville, j'ai vécu dans beaucoup de quartiers d'LA. Et je sais exactement ou et quand aller ou ne pas aller. Mais tu n'étais pas censé le savoir donc je te remerci quand même pour ta réponse. De même pour les autres personnes qui ont répondu, Merci. 🙂
Rien ne craint à LA ... C'est une grande ville comme une autre .
no ya des coins ou faut pas aller si t es touriste et meme si tu l es pas comme le CPT par exemple apres downtown c est plus comme il ya 2 ans, tu peux y aller la nuit sans problème..apres ca depend de qui t es, d ou tu viens et qui tu connais mais le tout c est de savoir s integrer
ps:compter pas sur le LAPD, ils sont pratiquement pire que les gangs lol
ps:compter pas sur le LAPD, ils sont pratiquement pire que les gangs lol
Je suis allé à Inglewood, Florence, crenshaw, je ne suis pas mort et surtout, en tant que touristes, je ne me suis pas une seule seconde senti en danger 😎 . Il ne faut pas croire tous les medias . Certes des quartiers sont à éviter la nuit, mais tu vas à Marseille c'est la meme, tu vas pas le soir dans certaines quartiers, comme toutes les grandes villes . Appreciez LA et N'ayez pas peur 😉
lol inglewood et comme south central c est plus vraiment ce que c etait..et ca vient pas des medias😉mais crenshaw j y crois pas trop a moins de passer en caisse ou alors quand tout le monde dort lol par contre es tu allé faire un tour dans le compton et resté genre une journée ou deux?inglewood est tres bien comme coin comme long beach..mais ca m étonnerait fortement que tu sois allé dans le compton lol et faut arretez avec des phrases du genre c est pareil partout parceque encore une fois ca sent le myhto c est pas la france en france t as une sorte de securite ici la plupart des flics s en foutent, c est aussi pour ca qu' ils vendent des armes a WALMART.bref ca sert a rien d exposer son point de vue si on a fait que "passer" par la!c est comme si j allais survoler l irak en avion de chasse et que j dis "l'irak c est pas hard j y suis allé" lmao si je te dis ca c est que je vis a LA maintenant donc je sais de quoi je parle😄 mais bon comme tu dis beaucoup se fient aux medias alors qu il faut pas comme beaucoup croient que les gangs c est cool alors que non.. j oubliais LA n est pas la france alors il ya des coins a eviter oui mais pas que la nuit..et je vois pas l interet d aller dans des coins comme ca il y en a qui le font oui mais en voiture et encore j y crois pas trop en faite cette histoire lol restez dans les coins comme santa monica il y a rien a faire dans les coins comme inglewood sachant que il y a une bonne partie oui mais une mauvaise aussi donc stop les mythos les autres vont vraiment croire que c est calme alors qu il y a un fort taux de criminalite lol a croire que c est la mode sois de dire je fais parti d un gang soit essayer de faire croire aux gens que tout va bien alors que ces personnes n y vivent meme pas !c est mentir aux autres et a soi-meme.bref LA est une bonne ville mais meme si les medias deforment des chozes oubli pas que les medias ne diffusent qu une petite partie de la criminalité quand il n y a rien a se mettre sous la dent car ca sert a rien d en parler pq c est monnaie courante, au pire si il y en a un autre qui veut faire croire que c est vraiment calme le prochain message sera une amie qui a grandi a coté de crenshaw blvd ok?😛arretez de faire style vous connaissez les coins hard c est pitoyable... bref profiter d un vrai voyage et n allez pas dans les sales coins.encore une fois les habitants d ici evitent certains coin meme de plein jour!bref a croire que ca devient une mode de faire croire que tout va bien et que ca s trouve la personne n y est meme pas allé ou alors un passage en voiture apres ca depend des coins aussi lol bref ca m énerve encore plus que ca me fait rire peace
ps: desole pour les fautes d orthographe le francais c est plus trop ca donc desole dnt blame it on me lol
Nouveau dans ce site, salut frenchboy, je compte visiter pour la 1ère les USA (NY; Californie, Arizona et Nevada) dans la période déc/janvier prochain. Dans mon itinéraire je prévois de passer 3 jours à LA du lun 28 déc au 30 déc. Je vois qu'au départ t'étais angoissé avant d'aller à LA. Maintenant que t'y es allé, as-tu des conseils à me donner? Merci 😏
Tom
Alors si tu le dit ca va, tu as certainement raison ... mais tu me donneras de nombreux exemples de touristes qui se sont fait agressés à LA, je ne penses pas qu'il y en ai beaucoup . Et comme je te dit, je donne mon point de vue et mon experience personnelle . J'y suis allé et je me suis pas senti en insecurité, apres tu me dis c'est un coupe gorge ben ok je te crois . Compton je n'y suis pas allé parce que je n'avais riezn à faire las -bas sinon je serais allé sans probleme . Mais apparemment tu as l'air de bien t'y connaitre vu que tu vis las bas, 😎 et c'est bizarre quand je te lis, on dirai que c'est presque " la classe " que LA soit une ville dangereuse avec ses coins chauds .. . Comme je te dis, certes la police n'y met pas trop les pieds ( CPT, LBC .. ) mais ne viens pas dans les quartiers Nords de Marseille le Soir ou je ne sais ou à Paris, crois -Moi .
Cordialement
non mais voila oui j ai un ancien collegue qui vivait dans les quartiers nord de marseille, je vois a peu pres comment c est la bas, je dis "a peu pres" parce que j y suis jamais allé, donc je te crois a mon tour😉 si je dis ca c est que ici que ce soit le jour ou la nuit ils s en foutent, je vais pas dire que c est la classe parceque ca ne l est pas mais dans un coin comme le cpt quand un resident de la bas vit sous stress tout le temps parce que il est entouré de gangs et qu il a rien a voir la dedans tu comrpendras qu il se fera mal voir et rejeté comme ce qu a vecu une amie de south central.LA c est chaud fort taux de criminalite j suis trop heureux lol no c est le contraire voila c est ce que je voulais pas que tu crois que j trouve que c est la classe parceque loin de la..si j trouvais que c était la classe, j aurais ecris differement..en fait j aurais rien ecrit je serais allé dans un gang c est tout lol LA c est bien, LA c est beau, mais il ya plein de petit truc dont on parle peu ou pas qui pourrisse cet atmosphere...en fait si j ai posté ca c est que peut etre dans des coins ou t es allé tu t es pas senti en danger, mais faut pas que certains croient apres que si t es allé tout va bien tu vois ce que je veux dire?genre monsieur pas de bol lol cpt il y a rient d' interressant...mais crois moi c est franchement pas la classe d avoir une reputation comme ca quelque fois, mais quand t as une police aussi pourrie que les gangs, ben pas mal prennent des armes pour s'auto proteger(et ils te diront qu'ils en ont pas parceque ils ont pas le permis lol)..j en ai parlé aussi avec mon amie hier de cette histoire, elle m a dis que sois t as menti, sois t as eu de la chance, parceque si les mauvais s'aprecoivent que t es pas d ici pour eux t es un porte-monnaie, moi allez j vais te croire tout n est pas pourri dans ces coins😉 maintenant j'espere que t as apprécié ton voyage, je pense que oui et je répète ce que j ai posté c est pour dire restez quand meme un minimum sur vos gardes, et si il y en a qui passe par la et qu'ils croient que les gangs c est bien(parceque il y en a) non c est nul la preuve il y en a pas mal la dedans qui dise n'y va pas c'est de la merde, j'ai fais une c.....ca part d'une bonne intention et enjoy😉 merci a toi aussi pour avoir donné ton expérience personnelle ca pourra servir aussi...sur ce bonne journée pour moi elle ne fait que commencer lol ciao
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
