Trajet San Francisco-Los Angeles: frais d'abandon chez Avis?
by Swaapy
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
Petit à petit je monte mon voyage pour les USA qui aura lieu en juin 2008. Après les billets déjà bookés, je me suis donc attaquée à la réservation de la voiture et après de longues comparaisons, le moins cher pour mes dates était ebookers pour une full size. J'ai donc fait ma résa du 13/06 au 23/06 départ San Francisco airport, retour véhicule à Los Angeles airport
Après réception du voucher, il s'avére que le loueur est Avis. En revanche sur ebookers j'ai mal lu la rubrique des frais d'abandon que je pensais à 0 USD, alors qu'à réception du voucher je m'aperçois qu'ils me seront communiqués sur place par le loueur.
Je voulais donc savoir si certains d'entre vous avez fait une location en Californie en one way sur le fameux triangle San Francisco-Las Vegas-Los Angeles avec AVIS.
Si oui y'avait-il des frais ou Avis fait-il partie de ces loueurs qui n'appliquent de frais d'abandon sur les villes du triangle ?
Merci d'avance de partager vos expériences sur ce sujet 😉
La règle normalement est qu'il n'y a pas de frais d'abandon en californie !...
J'ai loué la même que toi il me semble... 😉 Chez Avis et via Ebooker. J'ai tourné le truc dans tous les sens et je n'ai pas trouvé l'arnaque... c'est bel et bien le moins cher !!!! Je suis allé deux fois aux USA, je n'ai jamais rien payé pour ça...
Le seul truc c'est que sur place, comme tous les loueurs ils vont essayer de te passer une assurance en plus ou de te faire payer un véhicule de la catégorie supérieure en te faisant payer un petit plus... ça après, c'est à toi de voir. Sache que sur Ebooker, toutes les assurances "vitales" sont comprises.
Moi je demande toujours un véhicule 2 portes sur place. vue qu'ils en ont généralement moins que les 4 portes, ils arrivent à êtres arrangeant en te donnant la catégorie au dessus pour le même prix. Lors de mon dernier voyage, j'ai eu un cabriolet au lieu d'un full size...
Le seul truc c'est que sur place, comme tous les loueurs ils vont essayer de te passer une assurance en plus ou de te faire payer un véhicule de la catégorie supérieure en te faisant payer un petit plus... ça après, c'est à toi de voir. Sache que sur Ebooker, toutes les assurances "vitales" sont comprises.
Moi je demande toujours un véhicule 2 portes sur place. vue qu'ils en ont généralement moins que les 4 portes, ils arrivent à êtres arrangeant en te donnant la catégorie au dessus pour le même prix. Lors de mon dernier voyage, j'ai eu un cabriolet au lieu d'un full size...
Merci Cast. Voilà qui me conforte un peu dans mon idée !
Effectivement j'ai moi aussi cherché l"arnaque" sur Ebookers mais n'en ai pas trouvé.
Surtout depuis que j'ai eu mon voucher électronique et me suis aperçue que le loueur était Avis !!
Pour les assurances, je confirme tout est Ok:
Pas de franchise sur la CDW (ce qui semble de toute manière obligatoirement compris aux USA)
et LIS portée comme toujours à 1 M $
Pour la PAI, je suis tranquille avec ma super assistance chez Axa et je crois même que c'est compris dans les assurances de ma Visa Premier.
De toute manière, je vais tout vérifier avant de partir pour eviter de payer sur place des assu optionelles que j'aurai déjà 😉 J'ai bien compris que le loueur va essayer de faire monter l'addition avec ça !
Mais bon mon inquiétude c'était surtout les frais d'abandon ... et me voilà rassurée !
Merci encore !😄
Bonjour Swaapy,
J'ai également booké une voiture pour cet été par Ebooker. J'ai fais ma reservation par tel car je voulais connaitre exactement les frais d'abandon puisque je prend la voiture à Los Angeles et je la laisse à Portland Oregon. Ils m'ont confirmé 300$ de frais d'abandon. En revanche, ils m'ont confirmé qu'il n'y en a pas si je la prends et la rends en Californie. Pour la petite histoire, j'ai négocié le prix, 150 Eu (23 jours de loc) en moins avec Alamo, initialement ils m'avaient proposé AVIS.
Amicalement
La règle normalement est qu'il n'y a pas de frais d'abandon en californie !.
bonjour,
Non, c'est plus compliqué que ça.
Si tu loues par une agence (en ligne ou pas, comme ebrooker par ex.), ou si tu loues depuis la France par le site avis.fr, ou flyingblue.fr, ou...., il n'y a jamais de frais oneway pour une voiture avis prise et rendue en Californie.
Si tu loues depuis les USA, par exemple en utilisant un des codes de réduction super interessants qu'on trouve dans les journaux, il y a parfois des frais. J'ai dû payer il n'y a pas très longtemps avec Avis 50$ de frais pour une voiture prise à SJC (San José) et rendu à LAX, sur la base d'une pub dans un journal d'Honolulu. La super bonne affaire que j'avais cru faire s'est ainsi révélée assez moyenne. Location faite par tél à Avis/USA, muni du code de réduction indiqué dans le journal.
De même, à certaines périodes, en louant par avis.com depuis les USA, il est arrivé que des frais de oneway soit décomptés, yc en Californie.
Moralité : réserver chaque fois que possible depuis l'étranger, avant de partir (avis.fr, ou agence, ou spécialiste de location type autoescape). De plus les offres, si ce ne sont pas toujours les moins chères, sont plus complètes (assurances).
bonjour,
Non, c'est plus compliqué que ça.
Si tu loues par une agence (en ligne ou pas, comme ebrooker par ex.), ou si tu loues depuis la France par le site avis.fr, ou flyingblue.fr, ou...., il n'y a jamais de frais oneway pour une voiture avis prise et rendue en Californie.
Si tu loues depuis les USA, par exemple en utilisant un des codes de réduction super interessants qu'on trouve dans les journaux, il y a parfois des frais. J'ai dû payer il n'y a pas très longtemps avec Avis 50$ de frais pour une voiture prise à SJC (San José) et rendu à LAX, sur la base d'une pub dans un journal d'Honolulu. La super bonne affaire que j'avais cru faire s'est ainsi révélée assez moyenne. Location faite par tél à Avis/USA, muni du code de réduction indiqué dans le journal.
De même, à certaines périodes, en louant par avis.com depuis les USA, il est arrivé que des frais de oneway soit décomptés, yc en Californie.
Moralité : réserver chaque fois que possible depuis l'étranger, avant de partir (avis.fr, ou agence, ou spécialiste de location type autoescape). De plus les offres, si ce ne sont pas toujours les moins chères, sont plus complètes (assurances).
De l'Alaska à l'Arizona : contrastes. Voir https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4396533#4396533
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
bonjour
bon le post date un peu mais je bute pour la location du véhicule j ai fait plusieurs simulations
si je prends la voiture dans un état et que je la rends dans un autre eeeennnnorme frais d abandons§
Par EX: AUTOESCAPE POUR 45JOURS 1000$ fou non??🤪
alors que si je la prend a los angeles et que je la rend a los angeles ? même si je faite plusieurs autres Etats je ne paie pas de frais ????
C EST LA QUESTION QUE JE VOUS POSE alors je suis obligée de faire une boucle.
moi qui voulais commencer par le Wyoming et redescendre sur la cote en faisant plusieurs parcs et ville il va falloir tout que je recommence tout
suis dégoutée🙁 si vous avez des tuyaux mille merci
janick
MA LIBERTÉ DE PENSER
Heu !
1000$ ?
Il y a 2 ans : Full Size 4x4 pris à Seattle et rendu à Albuquerque 300$ chez Hertz sur 30j environ, réservation faite depuis la France.
Patrick
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
re
ben oui j ai recu le mail je suis tombée de c.... je l ai recu hier
par contre hertz est trés cher par rapport a d autre pour la location + les frais ...là je suis sur alamo
les frais de drop charge sont d environ 350$
mais evidemment ils n ont pas de depo dans tous le aeroports style cody alors je suis entrain de revoir pour eviter des kms
a part quitter la voit a jackson de prendre un vol inter jusqu a salt lake city puis relouer mais le vol JH SLC est chero par rapport a cody SLC
je crois que je ne vais pas trop avoir le choix que de faire cracher la carte mais je ne desespere pas je cherche toujours et encore lol!😕
a ++++++++++
janick
MA LIBERTÉ DE PENSER
Dans l'idéal tu cherches de ou à ou et à quelles dates ?
Patrick
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
re patrick
dans L IDEAL 😉 ce srait
1)jackson hole airport prise du vehicule restitution cody airport
2)salt lake city airport restitution san francisco
relouer de san francisco restitution los angelés ( pour un vehicule different pour la cote californienne)
ou carrement salt lake city ... los angeles
voili voilou mes desirs mais bon.....
a ++++ et merci de tes intervention ca me motive parce que je baisse un peu les bras je crois que de tout le voyage c est le plus difficile ouf😛
janick
MA LIBERTÉ DE PENSER
Bonjour,
Au risque de me répéter..... consulte voituredelocation.fr et fais des simulations ! En général, les frais de drop off sont en 2 ou 3eme page "voir les détails" et ne sont JAMAIS payables d'avance ! uniquement sur place auprès du loueur. A titre exemple, j'ai loué avec eux chez National et le drop off sera de 250$ de Denver à Seattle.
Et si tu as un doute, décroche ton tel fixe et appelle les (N° gratuit) ils sont très pro !
De toute façon il n'y a PAS de frais d'abandon intra Californie, ni entre CA et Nevada et Arizona.
De toute façon il n'y a PAS de frais d'abandon intra Californie, ni entre CA et Nevada et Arizona.
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
PS: ja oublié les dates du 23 aout au 31 pour le yellowstone et cody
puis du 31 SLC les parcs bryce arches canyonland monument v mesa verde canyon de chelly antelope ect.. grand canyon
puis le 20 septembre vegas 5 jours depart le 25 sept pour death v remonter par bishop yosemite ... san fransisco 4 ou 5 jours puis redescendre la cote jusqu a los angelés
envol pour la france le 10oct qu' est ce que tu en pense ?
J ai commencé a reserver les dodos dans le parc a yellowtone puis a cody pour l instant je suis tributaire de la voiture donc il faut que je finalise la loc pour continuer mes resa
bonne nuit a +++
janick
MA LIBERTÉ DE PENSER
bonsoir jadorry
justement j etais ce soir avec eux au tél la personne que j ai eu sympa d ailleurs a voulu que je lui envoi
mon itineraire avec les dates pur pouvoir établir un devis parce que bien évidemment j ai fait plusieurs simulations
comme je l ai dis plus haut, mais chaque fois le frais sont assez important donc tu as bien de la chance parce que de denver a seattle 250$c est bien!
j espere que pour
moi ce sra aussi bien mais pour l instant ce n est pas le cas on verra le réponse du mail je te tiens au courant
qu est ce que tu as loué? COMME VEHIC
a +++
janick
MA LIBERTÉ DE PENSER
bonsoir
Les frais de one-way que tu indiques paraissent énormes. Je penses que tu dois trouver mieux et résilier avec autoescape (qui de toute façon depuis plusieurs années est très mal placé en prix). Pour info, j'ai une résa avec National (via voituredelocation.fr) pour dans 2 mois, voiture prise à LAX, rendue à SLC avec 250$ de frais de drop-off (+ taxes). C'est ce que j'ai trouvé de mieux pour ce trajet.
Pour une résa entre Californie et Seattle, on peut même trouver des solutions sans frais de one-way en passant par Holidayauto.fr (ou Nlles frontières).
Les frais de one-way que tu indiques paraissent énormes. Je penses que tu dois trouver mieux et résilier avec autoescape (qui de toute façon depuis plusieurs années est très mal placé en prix). Pour info, j'ai une résa avec National (via voituredelocation.fr) pour dans 2 mois, voiture prise à LAX, rendue à SLC avec 250$ de frais de drop-off (+ taxes). C'est ce que j'ai trouvé de mieux pour ce trajet.
Pour une résa entre Californie et Seattle, on peut même trouver des solutions sans frais de one-way en passant par Holidayauto.fr (ou Nlles frontières).
De l'Alaska à l'Arizona : contrastes. Voir https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4396533#4396533
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
bonjour
je vois que tu te couches tard toi aussi!😄 je n ai rien reservé avec autoescape c etait juste un devis maintenant j attend le devis de elocation on verra ce qu il me propose de toute facon ce sont des intermediare ils travaillent avec alamo national etc... mais ils ont peut etre de meilleurs prix ! oui c est bien 250$ mais c est pour combien de jours? parce que ca compte pour moi 49 jours😎 a ++++ janick
je vois que tu te couches tard toi aussi!😄 je n ai rien reservé avec autoescape c etait juste un devis maintenant j attend le devis de elocation on verra ce qu il me propose de toute facon ce sont des intermediare ils travaillent avec alamo national etc... mais ils ont peut etre de meilleurs prix ! oui c est bien 250$ mais c est pour combien de jours? parce que ca compte pour moi 49 jours😎 a ++++ janick
MA LIBERTÉ DE PENSER
oui c est bien 250$ mais c est pour combien de jours? parce que ca compte pour moi 49 jours😎
a ++++
janick
Les frais d'abandon ne dépendent pas du nombre de jours mais de la distance séparant l'endroit de ta prise en charge et l'endroit de la restitution!
Les frais d'abandon ne dépendent pas du nombre de jours mais de la distance séparant l'endroit de ta prise en charge et l'endroit de la restitution!
Bonjour,
J'ai un peu de mal à suivre tes dates / lieux de loc et restitution / vols intérieurs ....
Mais si je regarde ce matin chez Hertz pour, départ Salt Lake City le 23 aout et fin à Los Angeles le 10 octobre j'ai ça pour une "grande routière" type Grand Marquis, assurance complète, sans PAI, kilomètrage illimité, 2394.30€ avec paiement à la réservation. Passant par la carte Hertz Club Gold Five , je n'ai pas le détail du tarif , mais il est garanti sans supplément aucun une fois sur place. Pour un Nissan XTerra ou une Lincoln Towncar ou Cadillac DTS le tarif monte 2874,85€.
2394.30 EUR Grand Marquis ou similaire Grande Routière 2-4 Portes Boîte automatique Climatisé , PCAR
2874.85 EUR Lincoln Towncar / Cadillac DTS ou similaire Berline Luxe 2-4 Portes Boîte automatique Climatisé , LCAR
Patrick
J'ai un peu de mal à suivre tes dates / lieux de loc et restitution / vols intérieurs ....
Mais si je regarde ce matin chez Hertz pour, départ Salt Lake City le 23 aout et fin à Los Angeles le 10 octobre j'ai ça pour une "grande routière" type Grand Marquis, assurance complète, sans PAI, kilomètrage illimité, 2394.30€ avec paiement à la réservation. Passant par la carte Hertz Club Gold Five , je n'ai pas le détail du tarif , mais il est garanti sans supplément aucun une fois sur place. Pour un Nissan XTerra ou une Lincoln Towncar ou Cadillac DTS le tarif monte 2874,85€.
2394.30 EUR Grand Marquis ou similaire Grande Routière 2-4 Portes Boîte automatique Climatisé , PCAR

2874.85 EUR Lincoln Towncar / Cadillac DTS ou similaire Berline Luxe 2-4 Portes Boîte automatique Climatisé , LCAR

Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Bonjour,
qu'est ce que tu as loué comme véhicule ?
Un minivan car on va être 5 pax plus valoches !! Ce sera du 19/7 au 06/8, CDW + LIS + PAI + bris de glaces/bas de caisse + 3 conducteurs suppl gratuits. Total 957€ TTC
qu'est ce que tu as loué comme véhicule ?
Un minivan car on va être 5 pax plus valoches !! Ce sera du 19/7 au 06/8, CDW + LIS + PAI + bris de glaces/bas de caisse + 3 conducteurs suppl gratuits. Total 957€ TTC
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!







