Expiration de passeport six mois moins deux jours après le départ en Thaïlande?
by Bibl
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous partons le 11 août 2012 pour Bangkok via Thaï Airway, retour le 31 août et le passeport de mon mari expiré le 09/02/2013. Cela posera-t-il problème pour 2 jours? Quelqu'un aurait-il déja eu cette situation? Merci de Vos réponses!
Bonjour,
a priori les textes sont clairs, maintenant à toi de savoir si tu veux prendre le risque ou pas... Pour les touristes français, aucun visa n’est exigé pour un séjour inférieur à 30 jours (présentation du billet aller-retour), dès lors que le passeport est encore valable pour six mois au moins lors de l’entrée sur le territoire. Perso je ne le prendrais pas 🤪
a priori les textes sont clairs, maintenant à toi de savoir si tu veux prendre le risque ou pas... Pour les touristes français, aucun visa n’est exigé pour un séjour inférieur à 30 jours (présentation du billet aller-retour), dès lors que le passeport est encore valable pour six mois au moins lors de l’entrée sur le territoire. Perso je ne le prendrais pas 🤪
bonjour
oui les lois sont ainsi faite avoir un passeport avec une validation de plus de six mois pour franchir le territoire thailandais
c est tout
pareil si on reste 31 ou 32 jours sur place , il faut un visa
voila
oui les lois sont ainsi faite avoir un passeport avec une validation de plus de six mois pour franchir le territoire thailandais
c est tout
pareil si on reste 31 ou 32 jours sur place , il faut un visa
voila
aroythai
s'il y a un endroit ou il va avoir un souci cela est a roissy
Les premieres choses qui regardent quand un passager se presente est le passeport et sa validation (six mois minimun) et si le billet aller/retour est de plus de 30 jours il regarde s'il y a un visa
Les premieres choses qui regardent quand un passager se presente est le passeport et sa validation (six mois minimun) et si le billet aller/retour est de plus de 30 jours il regarde s'il y a un visa
aroythai
Cela posera-t-il problème pour 2 jours? Quelqu'un aurait-il déja eu cette situation?
Oui cela pose problème. En effet, si le passager est refoulé à l'arrivée par le pays destinataire, c'est la compagnie aérienne qui l'a transporté qui doit assurer à ses frais le rapatriement. Les compagnies sont donc vigilantes à l'aéroport de départ. Ce problème nous est arrivé une fois et j'ai dû signer un papier déchargeant la compagnie aérienne de sa responsabilité en cas de refoulement. Il n'y a pas eu de problème à l'arrivée. A mon avis, si vous n'avez pas le temps de refaire un passeport, c'est ce qu'il vous faudra faire si le problème de validité est détecté à Roissy, ce qui est le plus probable.
Oui cela pose problème. En effet, si le passager est refoulé à l'arrivée par le pays destinataire, c'est la compagnie aérienne qui l'a transporté qui doit assurer à ses frais le rapatriement. Les compagnies sont donc vigilantes à l'aéroport de départ. Ce problème nous est arrivé une fois et j'ai dû signer un papier déchargeant la compagnie aérienne de sa responsabilité en cas de refoulement. Il n'y a pas eu de problème à l'arrivée. A mon avis, si vous n'avez pas le temps de refaire un passeport, c'est ce qu'il vous faudra faire si le problème de validité est détecté à Roissy, ce qui est le plus probable.
Imaginez vous pouvez embarquer à l'aller et pas au retour...
Le problème ne se pose pas au retour, un pays ne refoule pas ses ressortissants 😛
Le problème ne se pose pas au retour, un pays ne refoule pas ses ressortissants 😛
Bonjour tout le monde,
Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer pourquoi certains pays, dont la thaïlande, exigent cette validation de 6 mois ?
Il n'y a pas de visa à demander ok, mais quel est la raison de cette période ?
(peut-être y-at-il déjà la réponse dans ce forum, mais je n'ai pas trouvé)
Jean-Louis
Le problème, c'est surtout que le passeport en 3 jours (entre le 7 et 10 août) ça risque d'être très dur à obtenir ...😕
"le précipice ne se franchit pas en deux bonds"
Le problème, c'est surtout que le passeport en 3 jours (entre le 7 et 10 août) ça risque d'être très dur à obtenir ...😕
passeport provisoire
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/...s/F1373.xhtml#N100AE
passeport provisoire
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/...s/F1373.xhtml#N100AE
aroythai
A moins de justifier de contraintes professionnelles , humanitaires ou médicales 😊
SO
Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer pourquoi certains pays, dont la thaïlande, exigent cette validation de 6 mois ?
C'est une question que je me pose depuis longtemps et à laquelle je n'ai jamais trouvé de réponse satisfaisante. Réclamer cette durée de validité à des touristes ayant leur billet de retour me semble idiot. Cette règle s'applique également aux enfants mineurs voyageant avec leurs parents, ce qui me semble encore plus incompréhensible. La conséquence, c'est que la durée du passeport est réduite de six mois et qu'il faut faire gaffe quand on approche de la date critique.
C'est une question que je me pose depuis longtemps et à laquelle je n'ai jamais trouvé de réponse satisfaisante. Réclamer cette durée de validité à des touristes ayant leur billet de retour me semble idiot. Cette règle s'applique également aux enfants mineurs voyageant avec leurs parents, ce qui me semble encore plus incompréhensible. La conséquence, c'est que la durée du passeport est réduite de six mois et qu'il faut faire gaffe quand on approche de la date critique.
"La conséquence, c'est que la durée du passeport est réduite de six mois et qu'il faut faire gaffe quand on approche de la date critique"
Voir plus quelquefois : je parts en novembre et mon passeport périme en fevrier 2013, donc à refaire. comme je suis du genre prudent (peut-être un peu trop sur ce coup), j'ai demandé le nouveau qui vient d'arriver aujourd'hui. résultat 7 mois de perdus et à 86 euros le timbre, c'est pas donné. Bon, en contrepartie pas de frais de visas... Mais je ne comprends toujours pas pourquoi. Que le passeport soit valable durant tout le séjour ça semble normal, mais pourquoi si longtemps après ? Mystère des instances internationales. Bons séjours quand même.
Voir plus quelquefois : je parts en novembre et mon passeport périme en fevrier 2013, donc à refaire. comme je suis du genre prudent (peut-être un peu trop sur ce coup), j'ai demandé le nouveau qui vient d'arriver aujourd'hui. résultat 7 mois de perdus et à 86 euros le timbre, c'est pas donné. Bon, en contrepartie pas de frais de visas... Mais je ne comprends toujours pas pourquoi. Que le passeport soit valable durant tout le séjour ça semble normal, mais pourquoi si longtemps après ? Mystère des instances internationales. Bons séjours quand même.
Jean-Louis
c'est risqué et parfois certains personnel au sol sont à cheval sur les règles....Les visiteurs entrant en Thaïlande doivent être en possession d'un passeport en cours de validité (encore valide au moins 6 mois à compter de la date d'entrée dans le pays).
pour une amie en tous les cas sur malaysia airlines à 4 jours près elle n'a pas pu partir🙁 ,
si votre voyage tombe à l'eau pour ce détail c'est vraiment bête...de ne pas avoir été plus vigilant que ça....si vous avez une assurance béton à la rigueur peut être que vous pourrez rattraper les pertes....
bonne chance , venez nous dire en tous les cas votre expérience ça intéressera bon nombre de voyageurs...étourdis
pour une amie en tous les cas sur malaysia airlines à 4 jours près elle n'a pas pu partir🙁 ,
si votre voyage tombe à l'eau pour ce détail c'est vraiment bête...de ne pas avoir été plus vigilant que ça....si vous avez une assurance béton à la rigueur peut être que vous pourrez rattraper les pertes....
bonne chance , venez nous dire en tous les cas votre expérience ça intéressera bon nombre de voyageurs...étourdis
Tu as raison, 86 euros pour 10 ans, cela ne fait que 5.04 euros de perdus pour 7 mois.
Calculé comme ça, c'est largement supportable.😏
Jean-Louis
si vous avez une assurance béton à la rigueur peut être que vous pourrez rattraper les pertes....
Je ne connais aucune assurance qui rembourse des billets pour cette raison car il s'agit d'une négligence du passager.
Je ne connais aucune assurance qui rembourse des billets pour cette raison car il s'agit d'une négligence du passager.
Je ne connais aucune assurance qui rembourse des billets pour cette raison car il s'agit d'une négligence du passager.
EUH en fait je n'ai pas penser ASSEZ FORT à une stratégie...
bah il peut se faire voler son passeport ou le perdre !!!
bon je n'ai rien dit
nous notre assurance visa premier fonctionnerai pour ce cas là (perte papier) pour avoir un remboursement (les taxes ça pas de problèmes elles sont récupérables, et la partie hors taxe assurance) ...
je vais me faire insulter peut être... après tout les assurances nous arnaquent bien.....😊😊😉😛 bah je rigole!!!!!!!!!! hum hum hum
EUH en fait je n'ai pas penser ASSEZ FORT à une stratégie...
bah il peut se faire voler son passeport ou le perdre !!!
bon je n'ai rien dit
nous notre assurance visa premier fonctionnerai pour ce cas là (perte papier) pour avoir un remboursement (les taxes ça pas de problèmes elles sont récupérables, et la partie hors taxe assurance) ...je vais me faire insulter peut être... après tout les assurances nous arnaquent bien.....😊😊😉😛 bah je rigole!!!!!!!!!! hum hum hum
Merci de vos réponses, en effet les voies de nos instance internationales sont impénétrables.... Néanmoins le consulat de Thaïlande à Paris indique oralement au téléphone qu'il y a une tolérance pour les citoyen français qui séjournent moins de 30 jours sur place avec expiration du passeport à plus de 3 mois.... En revanche afin de confirmer cela nous avons un mail du responsable de Thaï Airways à Frankfort qui nous confirme leur acceptation de nous laisser embarquer samedi... Ouf, à moins d'un gros pépin à Bangkok les vacances sont sauvées!...
Voila une bonne nouvelle.
C'est bon à savoir pour l'avenir au cas où...
Bonnes vacances, profitez bien.
Jean-Louis
Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer pourquoi certains pays, dont la thaïlande, exigent cette validation de 6 mois ?
Bonjour,
il y a eu une discussion dernièrement sur le sujet et qqn expliquait que c'était pour couvrir tout potentiel séjour à rallonge (temps de séjour sans visa + 1 visa + 1 prolongement de visa).
Pour être sûr que si le voyageur faisait appel à toutes les possibilités pour rester le plus longtemps possible dans le pays, il ne se retrouve pas avec un passeport expiré avant son retour, et ceci malgré un billet retour déjà émis à une date précise. Apparemment, on n'est jamais trop prudent 😉
Voilà, c'était l'idée générale du post.
Bonjour,
il y a eu une discussion dernièrement sur le sujet et qqn expliquait que c'était pour couvrir tout potentiel séjour à rallonge (temps de séjour sans visa + 1 visa + 1 prolongement de visa).
Pour être sûr que si le voyageur faisait appel à toutes les possibilités pour rester le plus longtemps possible dans le pays, il ne se retrouve pas avec un passeport expiré avant son retour, et ceci malgré un billet retour déjà émis à une date précise. Apparemment, on n'est jamais trop prudent 😉
Voilà, c'était l'idée générale du post.
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Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie






