J'aimerais savoir si on se fait souvent prendre lorsque l'on fait du camping sauvage, les amendes maximales, etc...mais aussi est-ce que le bivouac est aussi interdit? si non est ce que l'on est cru sur parole lorsqu'on en fait?
Une derniere chose, est-ce que quelqu'un connaitrait un coin sympa et tranquil en sud-essonne pour faire de la randonnée et faire du bivouac ou du camping?
bonjour, je marche régulierement en France et donc...je bivouaque . le mieux etant de demander à un agriculteur de te laisser planter la tente sur un bout de champ ( bien sur, laisser l'endroit super propre et partir tres tot le matin ) si tu y vas avec un grand sourire en expliquant ce que tu fais ( d'ou tu viens, ta prochaine étape etc ... ) ça ne pose généralement pas de probleme . J'ai marché de Chantilly à la frontiere belge, le tour des Cevennes, et randonné dans les Landes sans soucis .Si tu marches en couple c'est encore plus facile ! bon courage .
Merci pour ta réponse, j'ai aussi penser à demander aux mairies dans les plus grandes villes pour savoir si ils ont des terrains pour gens du voyage, etc...je pars le mois prochain avec mon copain, on va de paris à morlaix en bretagne a velo, donc, oui, on va avoir de beaucoup de courage, merci! ( c'est la premiere fois qu'on va faire une randonnée)
salut!
C'est vrai que le Camping sauvage est interdit (sauvagement réprimé, selon certains, dans les coins plus fréquentés)... Mais le bivouak est autorisé ; seulement, pas facile de planter sa tente au coucher du soleil et de te lever au lever du soleil! Sacré rythme après une bonne journée de marche!! 😛😛😛
Et puis, pas facile de trouver un champs sympa et l'agricuilteur qui va avec!
On m'a dit que l'idéal était de demandé dans les troquets du coin, souvent pleins d'hommes qui connaissent tout le village, les meilleurs points de renseignements!! 🤪🤪
Et ben Parsi Moralaix c'est pas mal (parole de bretonne!!) 😠😕😠
Pour une première rando...
Nous, nous avons expérimenté première rando pédestre y'a deux semaines ; 100 kms en 4 jours. Pas terrible pour les habitués, mais pour nous... On avait les pieds défoncés, tout comme les rotules... Aïe! No coment...
Alors, je vous souhaite tout plein de courage.
Avant de partir, je me disais que tout se jouerait dans la tête! Et ben pas tant que ça parce que quand le corps de suit pas, tu ne peux pas aller bien loin, même avec la motivation!!
😛😛🙂🙂
Bon voyage et j'attends un petit topo de cette expérience au retourt des vacances!😎😎😎
C'est vrai, je sens que ça va être dure et je me dis la même chose que tu te disais, rien ne vaut une bonne motivation et puis plus j'y pense et plus je me dis que physiquement ça va être térriblement dure....!!!🤪
Et puis partir en bretagne c'est une motivation sans égal pour moi!! moi aussi je suis bretonne! La Bretagne me manque tellement que je suis prête à traverser monts et marrés!!
Y'a pas de problème dés que l'on rentre (aprés une ou deux bonnes nuits de sommeil...!) je raconterais ce premier long voyage que j'attend avec impatience!!!😛
Alors je n'ai pas d'autres mots que "bon voyage, bon trip, profitez en bien". De toutes façons, c'est tellement agréable de se défoncer et de bien dormir le soir!! 😉😉
Le sud essonne, c'est la première étape pour Morlaix, ou une question autre?
Pour quand, le bivouac?
C'est là que nous habitons; Il y a plein de randos possibles dans certaines vallées, mais au sud d'Etampes, c'est vraiment la Beauce toute plate et les champs infinis
Fourcheux
Le lieu: choisir un endroit isolé, non fréquenté. Si c'est un pré, s'assurer qu'il n'y a pas de bêtes. Privilégiez les hameaux, vous aurez plus de chances de trouver un endroit tranquille. Si vous êtes malgré tout proches d'habitations et visibles, n'hésitez pas à frapper aux portes pour demander qui sont les propriétaires de l'endroit que vous avez remarqué, leur contact...voire demander un autre endroit si celui-là pose problème.
Si vous voyez que l'endroit est déjà pris mais grand, ne vous imposez pas, demandez aux 1ers occupants si ça les dérange que vous partagiez le terrain.
Planter la tente: La planter après 19h et de préférence le plus tard possible, quand le soleil se couche afin de ne pas attiré l'attention. ( surtout si vous avez une tente flashy 😏 )
Entretien du site: un bivouac consiste à être discret. Quand vous repartez, il ne doit rester aucune trace de votre passage sur le site. ( traces, de feu, détritus, végétation âbimée, déplacement de pierre...) Pour les besoins naturels, chosissez un endroit propice à la confection d'un trou ( qui ne dénature pas le site) et enterrez-les.
Heure de départ: quitter les lieux avant 8h.
Trucs: présentez vous à 2 quand vous frappez chez les gens, ça fait plus voyageurs tranquilles qu'une personne seule qui peut inquiéter malgré elle. Dans les cafés ( très bonne idée!), ne rentrez pas seulement pour demander, consommez une limonade, ça sera plus facile. Si le patron du bar est un peu con ( ça peut arriver), n'hésitez pas à demander aux autres clients. S'il y a une auberge de jeunesse, demandez leur s'ils connaissent un coin tranquille pour votre bivouac, très souvent, ils pourront même vous proposer de planter vore tente à proximité de leur auberge. Les mairies où la plupart du temps, les secrétaires sont heureuses de vous aider à trouver un site de bivouac.
Je pars également en rando itinérante cet été. Plus votre sac est léger, plus agréable est votre rando.
Enfin, ne partez pas avec des "ça va être difficile", "j'espère qu'on y arrivera", "je doute" dans la tête...Vous êtes en vacances, c'est le bonheur, ne pensez pas au but à atteindre mais à prendre du plaisir sur chaque étape, un pas après l'autre, profitez du paysage, des rencontres...
Bon voyage à pied!
Merci Sanoma (et cela dit en passant, jolie photo)!!!
Pour répondre à Fourcheux, oui la première étape du voyage est le sud essonne ( j'y habite aussi!!) nous comptons prendre le GR11 mais je ne sais pas où il passe près d'Etampes (si quelqu'un connaît?...).
Enfin merci Lav pour les conseil ça nous sera trés utile!!!
Merci tout le monde!!!!!!😉😛
salut a tous je up ce sujet apres 3 longues années de sommeil !! 😉
l'important lorsqu'on bivouac est de s'assurer de ne pas etre dérangé et de ne pas déranger , cela implique de faire un petit tour des environs, histoire de repérer ou l'on se trouve exactement ... ( pas toujours envi apres une longue journée de marche mais bon 🏴☠️ on se force !! hi hi)
je le fais depuis que je me suis fais chassé coup de pieds au cul par un paysan irlandais pas tres content de me voir sur ces terres .... ( le mieux aurait été de le lui demander , comme ca oui ou non j'aurais été fixé 🤪 )
j'essai toujours de me " planquer " le plus possible , éviter les lieux trop fréquenté, etre discret quoi...
m'enfin pour rassurer ceux qui ont un peu peur de se faire choper , globalement aucun soucis pour dormir a la belle étoile ou en tente pour une nuit !
bien sur qu'on peut se faire voir , m ' enfin nous sommes en france et malgré tout ce qu'on peut dire on est plutot peinard de ce coté la , faudrait vraiment pas avoir de chance pour tomber sur un casse *ouille qui appellerai les flics..... et puis même les flics sont relax si tu n'es pas agressif
donc NO PANIC!!!!! et bivouaquez chers amis c'est si bon !!!
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Bonjour
Nous avons comme projet de séjourner 8 jours sur l'ile de Sao Nicolau, sac à dos. Nous hésitons de prendre le bateau de Sao Vicente ou un vol inter iles. On me dit que les bateaux ne partent pas toujours?
Nous souhaitons faire trois haltes chez l'habitant afin de voyager en étoile de chacun des 3 points.
Première escale dans les environ de Juncalinho, deuxième escale du coté de Cachaco et enfin une troisième étape du coté de Tarrafal. Nous recherchons des pensions simple mais authentiques (pas d'hôtels). Avez-vous des suggestions?
Merci
Hello,
In mid-November, we’ll be in Mindelo and Santo Antão.
We’ve booked transportation with Kapverden Tours.
One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
Then we’ll be staying in Ponta do Sol,
Here’s what we’re planning:
A hike to Fontainhas—what’s the best direction, considering we’re not great with climbs? No problem with flat terrain or descents.
Take an aluguer to Ribeira Grande and continue along the coastal road.
With the agency:
An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
Return to Porto Novo via the path from Cova to… I’m not sure where yet, to pick up the car for Porto Novo, since we’ll be taking the ferry that evening.
We’ll have a guide for this hike.
We’d love to spend a day in Tarrafal, but getting back requires a boat or taxi, and it’s really expensive!
We’re a couple, 78 and 76 years old.
What do you think of this itinerary?
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
hi how can I get internet when I arrive at Haneda? I mean in areas without free wifi. Is it more interesting to buy a SIM card? If so, at the airport? thanks for your help
We're planning to go at the end of November/beginning of December to visit (with a rental car) and hike on La Palma and El Hierro for 15 full days, including 1 day for inter-island ferry transfers. What’s the best split between the two islands—8 days on La Palma and 6 on El Hierro, or even more time for La Palma? Should we have one or two home bases on La Palma? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi there,
I’m planning to cross the Gourgs Blancs Pass at the end of the month, from La Soula Refuge to Portillon Refuge. On this section near the pass, I don’t have any trail marked on my IGN map. Is the path well signposted, or should I use a compass?
Also, beyond the physical effort, are there any technical, exposed, or vertigo-inducing sections on this part?
Since I’m finding very little info, I’m being thorough with my questions.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
hi there
I’m heading to Uzbekistan for three weeks from mid-September to mid-October 2026—a country I haven’t visited yet.
I’d love to do a few multi-day hikes in the mountains without going through a tour operator or hiring a guide. Has anyone here done this?
It doesn’t have to be all trekking; day hikes are great too.
I’m open to any tips!
Also, I see there are lots of train options if you book well in advance—does that only apply to the "fast" trains? Are there buses as well?
Not very well known: Hokkaido Island has national parks that rival those in North America. Hiking there is free (even many mountain huts) and requires no formalities. These treks are described in the LP *Hiking in Japan* guide—you can just buy the Hokkaido PDF. It’s way better than Mount Fuji. Of course, everything depends on the weather, which is very unstable in the Japanese mountains (frequent strong winds). The trails are often obstacle courses.
The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?