Randonnée dans le Queyras début août
by Coolhand77
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour.
je souhaite partir en rando dans le Queyras debut Aout pour 7 jours..Je connais deja un peu la région!
Quel itinineraire (en boucle ou bien avec un depart et une arrivée avec une liaison en voiture) pourrais je faire ?
J'aimerai passer par St veran, ceillac, les fonds de cervieres, la monta , chateau Quyeras ou Ville vieille..
Pas trop de dénivellé le 1er jour car je pars avec 2 débutants.
Ensuite un max de 7h0à de marche ...
Merci de vos conseils.
Pas de laison en voiture hormis le retour au point de départ.
On aimetai profiter du service Sherpa pour ne pas voyager avec les sacs pleins (Couchage en gite ou refuge uniquement)
Merci
bon, ben au moins tu connais le sherpa.
c'est pas mon truc mais c'est sympa puisque chaque matin tu peux mettre dans un gros sac tout ce qui encombre le groupe et tu retrouve ton sac au refuge le soir ( sauf quelques refuges qui ne sont pas accessibles ).
Si tu es en voiture, je te conseille une étape de "chauffe "? Il y a 3 ans, nous sommes arrivés en train, car pour Ceillac et direct les col des Estronques et St Veran et nous étions tous morts. Trop dur sans acclimatation.
Cette année, je vais faire le Tour du Viso sur 8 jours et je me fais une 1 ere de chauffe entre Ceillac et Chateau-Queyras pour une départ réel à Abriès.
Je verrais bien un départ à Ceillac, Chateau-Queyras ou Vielleville (1 ), le col de Peas et les Fonts de Servières ( endroit sublime et gérant du refuge génial )( 2 ) col de Malrif et Abriès ou le Roux, ( 3 ) la Monta par Collette de Gily ( 4 ) refuge Agnel par le col vieux (5 ) lever de bonne heure pour gravir le Pain de Sucre et récupérer les sacs en bas et cap sur St Veran par col de Chamoussière ( gros éboulis sans danger au départ et très bucolique sur la fin ) ( 6 ) col des Estronques et longue descente sur Ceillac ( 7 ) ou tu retrouves ta voiture.
Bon, c'est juste une ébauche
Bonne randonnée
KENAVO Patrick
Salut Patrick..Merci pour tes conseils!! J'ai deja fait 2 fois le Queyras.Une fois en solitaire au depart de CEiallac mais avec des randos en etoile et il y a 3 ans avec mon amie..On etait parti de Ceillac pour rejoindre Furfande (le refuge) ensuite par la col de furfande on avait rejoint La Chalp au gite La teppio ensuite je crois que nous avions ete direct au Fon de Cerviueres (effectivement superbe) en pasant par souliers..La suite je crois que nous etions pase par le malrif pour rejoindre Abries?? ensuite l'inevitable Refuge Martel, pour terminer par St Veran (Les gabelious) et retour a Ceillac par le Col Fromage..
C'etait sympa mais je voualsi emmener les enfants dans quelques lieux, mais nos etapes pour certaine etaient trop longues..
Je vais regarder ce que tu proposes et qui me semble sympa..
Que me conseilels tu comme itineraire pour aller de Ceillac a Chateau Queyras...meme question pour l'etape 2 Cateau Qyeras Fonts de Cervieres.5pas trop long comme etape?)
Merci pour tes conseils..
Dan
ps==> pour le Sherpa suios pas fan non plus, mais comme je pars avec 2 debutants je prefere assurer..:-)
Sympa ton tour du Viso.. Ca me tenterait bien aussi..Tu fais cela en refuge Italien??
Sympa ton tour du Viso.. Ca me tenterait bien aussi..Tu fais cela en refuge Italien??
Salut,
Sympa ton tour du Viso.. Ca me tenterait bien aussi..Tu fais cela en refuge Italien??
oui le tour du Viso se fait en partie côté italien. Avec des enfants et si c'est pour des randonnées à la journée il vaut mieux passer côté italien en voiture. En partant de Saint Véran il faut marcher longtemps pour passer les cols frontaliers et redescendre de l'autre côté.
Sympa ton tour du Viso.. Ca me tenterait bien aussi..Tu fais cela en refuge Italien??
oui le tour du Viso se fait en partie côté italien. Avec des enfants et si c'est pour des randonnées à la journée il vaut mieux passer côté italien en voiture. En partant de Saint Véran il faut marcher longtemps pour passer les cols frontaliers et redescendre de l'autre côté.
en fait, la plupart de la rando est italienne et je compte prendre des demi-pensions en refuge.
De Ceillac, j'ai prévu de monter aux cols de Bramousse puis Fromage et passer au sommet Buchet puis descente sur Chateau-Queyras ou je prend le car pour Abriès.
En refouillant le parcours, je me demande si je ne vais pas plutôt partir de Chateau-Queyras pour rejoindre Fonts de Servières par le col de Peas pour passer Malrif vers le Roux le lendemain.
Ce qui va décider vraiment du parcours sera l'enneigement au dernier moment puisque les cols Seilliere et Traversette doivent être franchissables. Il y a des variantes possibles, ce n'est pas comme un tour entier style TMB ou il faut bien contourner le massif.
On verra bien.
bonne randonnee
Merci Patrick..
je vais donc prendre ton itineraire pour la 1ere etape..Effectivement c'est sympa de monter a Bramousse puis de paser pare le col Fromage et rejoindre Chateau Queyras que je ne connais pas..
Pour la seconde etape par ou passe tu pour rejoindre les Fonts de Cervieres??Quels GR?
merci
Dan
en fait, pour aller sur le col de Peas, il vaudrait mieux descendre sur Ville Vielle que sur Chateau-Queyras.
On y récupère le GR 58A qui, par les Meyries rattrappe le GR 58 qui par le col de é"as conduit à Font de Servières.
De Chateau-Queyras, il y a un chemin très raide qui rejoint le 58A
A Ville-Vieille, il y a un gite sympa : Les Astragales.
Dommage qu'on ne parte pas à la même époque !!!
A peluche
Patrick
Super , merci Patrick..je pensais egalement aux Astragales..!
Je vais faire mon itinéraire et je te le soulettrai..
Oui dommage que nous partions pas a la meme periode!!
en plus j'ai de la famille sur Nantes!!(Moutzillon..)
Bonjour à tous, 1er semaine de septembre 2011 mon amie et moi partons faire le tour su Queyras sur 8 à 10 jours. A l'aide de différents site et carte j'ai crois avoir réussi un faire un parcours qui me semble raisonnable, car nous sommes novice en randonnée de haute montagne et avec autant de dénivelé. Don 'aurais aimer savoir de ce que vous pensez de ces deux journées :
St Véran - Lac de la blanche - Chaniale (IT) +750 -1200 6h de marche
Chaniale (IT)- Col de vallante - Lac de lestion - Refuge L’Echalp +900 -800 7h de marche
Est ce que vous pensez que les temps de marche correspondent ? et est ce que ce n'est pas trop difficile ?
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I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada